Poll: 45% of Republicans don't think Obama was born in the USA

 

President Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate has not convinced nearly half of those who identify themselves as Republican that he was born in the United States.

A CBS News/New York Times poll released Thursday revealed that 45% of Republicans and 45% of "tea party" supporters agree with the 'birther' movement, and Donald Trump's claims, that Obama is hiding something by not revealing a different birth certificate than the one spread all around the Internet.

The results of the poll were garnered from a random sample of 1,224 adults across the nation in interviews conducted from April 15-20. Of the entire group, one-quarter said he was born in another country.

The poll came out on the same day that Trump, who has been on the forefront of the birther movement for months, complained to CNN that too many reporters begin their interviews with him about Obama's true nationality.

"You have to stop asking me about a birth certificate," Trump demanded.

The Ticket has been covering the controversy since it began in June of 2008.

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Photo: President Barack Obama eats a green tea ice cream bar during his visit to the Great Buddha of Kamakura at the Kotoku-in Temple in Kamakura, Japan, Nov. 14, 2010. Credit: White House /Pete Souza

Comments

[Michael]

That pretty well sums up the low intelligent levels of Republicans. What a bunch of idiots.

[brianguy]

wow Hawaii is a state? who knew...

[bob]

It would be official if the president presented his birth certificate moments before his inaugural vow.

[Pete]

Obama needs to produce the information that the State of Hawaii is holding, and the records from the hospital that Obama claims to have been born at.

The reason that the certification of live birth or short form birth certification Obama produced is not sufficient requires some understanding of Hawaii law. Prior to 1972, including at the time Obama was born, a Hawaiian resident could obtain a birth certification for a baby on their declaration and signature. In other words, no proof such as witness declarations were required. A Hawaiian resident could claim the baby popped out at home with no witnesses and obtain a birth certification.

Up to 1972 when the law was changed to require proof of the birth, many foreign babies were brought to Hawaii and had an illegal birth certificate provided by a friend or relative under this route.

The short form certification of live birth produced by Obama does not indicate what type of birth certification Obama received. If it is from the hospital that Obama claims to have been born at it would include the doctor and the signature of two witnesses. If it is the type say his grandmother signed for it would require further evidence to prove Obama was born in Hawaii for the reason discussed above.

Obama needs to stop the hiding and produce the records that the State of Hawaii is holding and produce the hospital records. It is obvious that Obama is hiding something, otherwise he would have produced these records to end this controversy.

[paul conn]

This is clear evidence of the ignorance, or stupidity of a large percentage of the Republican party. This is not an insult it is simply an unquestionable fact for those of us who know how to think.

[gerrrg]

Yeah, no racial issue going on here. Years ago when it was about The Terminator, some Republicans were calling for changing the Constitution to allow a foreign-born person to run for President.

This century's American ethic is a twist on the last: If you're not white, you must be either foreign or an anchor baby.

[John]

I'm sure the IQs umoung the 45% are some of the lowest in the country.

[Salviati]

The way he has been sucking up to AIPAC I thought he was born in Israel. That's in the United States, right?

[Marcuscassius]

It's just one of the reasons we love them. Like a pet with half a brain or an old person with alzheimers. They can't even figure out the easy stuff. They have Fox and Bachman and Hannity to do their thinking for them. It's perfectly okay in most situation as long as they stay away from cars, sharp objects and voting booths. They'll just hurt themsilves. Love and kisses.

[charles willilams]

Dont you think this is a little late to be investigating this now? I thought we had someone in congress with a brain; that is actually stirring up the senate for all the right reason. The United States was defined on morals and ethics based on the Bible; what in the world is going on? Anyway, I requested a copy of Obama birth certificate over a month ago; NO ONE from Washington D.C. has so much as replied to myrequest, much less provide a copy of birth certificate. I am about to move to Mexico or Canada; this country is a joke.

[Edge of the Palouse]

Hey, if it's that simple, why doesn't he just release it? And why aren't any Democrats asked about it? Bachman, Boehner, Palin... Any conservative on TV is asked if they believe he was born here. How about Reid or Pelosi or Dean? Any tv pundit asked them ? Why do we let the MSM make this a Conservative/Republican/Tea Party issue?

John

p.s. And by the way, what about asking Ted Kennedy? Huh? What's up with no one asking him anything lately? OK, I suppose he's hanging with Franco.)

[GMK]

I think those that say that Obama was not born in the US do so because they simply hate Obama. Few of them actually believe this. They only say it as a way to hurt Obama.

[charles willilams]

Go Donald Trump. You can be a hero.

[American R cool]

Republicans don't believe that Obama was born in Hawaii. They do believe that a massive conspirisy involving two major newspapers that published the birth announcement and the staff of Hawaii's vital records department engaged in a fraud in the year 1961 to mislead the public into believing that Obama was born in the USA. Wow. How did they know on the day Obama was born in 1961 that he would run for President in 2008? Republicans are truly amazing. They got my vote in 2012. These are the folks we need in charge of our country!

[Floyd Mills]

Personally, I think that President Obama was born in the USA. There seems to be some truth around the accusation that he is not being completely open by not publishing the detailed copy of his birth certificate. There is clearly some other reason he is protecting his privacy in this issue. It might be to protect his family...I can only guess. But the copy he did present is a legal substantiation of his place o birth and is complete in that sense. He does not need to provide more than that and why should he have to? He is entitled to his and his family's privacy.

[Bill]

yes, this is why our country is in the state in is in. Ignorant people who because of their deep rooted prejudice will vote against their own interests and give America away to the super rich. They don't realize that repubs will make America a 3rd world country like Mexico with the super rich and super poor. Duped fools.

[dbb]

Geee. The Senate and The Congress voted after the 2008 election, unanimously, that Obama was The President and the election was with out fault. Hmmm. I'm ashamed to be a Republican. Get on to more important issues like the economy, the wars, health care, punishing Wall Street and getting rid of government waste. This is a perfect example why America is deteriorating from the inside out. It isn't the terrorists we need to worry it about.

[Bob H]

Obama is hiding something. It might not be his birthplace, but it is something he is afraid will get out. Otherwise, he wouldn't seal up every record normally released by former presidents. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

[Jesse]

Wow, 55% of Republicans can think critically! I was not aware of that.

[Clyde]

Count me as one of the 45%. He's very much a good liar and I do not trust him. It is unfortunate that the majority of Americans voted for this man in the last presidential election. He knows not how to lead a great nation, or a nation that was once great.

[Tim]

This article is not quite accurate.
It says: "...Donald Trump's claims, that Obama is hiding something by not revealing a different birth certificate than the one spread all around the Internet."

In reality, it's a "live birth" certificate which is spread on the internet. That is a lower standard of certificate, that doesn't prove much.

Bottom line.
The original long-form certificate supposedly exists is supposedly sealed. Obama could EASILY release it and end the controversy. However, he chooses not to release the birth certificate, which increases suspicions and likelihood something is wrong.

[Park McGraw]

For those wishing to believe Mr. Obama's birth claim ask, based on what depth of knowledge and education of Hawai`i do you pronounce such bold claim, that Mr. Obama was born in Honolulu, minus the scant documentation provided to date? For there are so many highly unusual issues surround Mr. Obama's birth in "Hawai`i" relative to the culture and demographics at the time of his birth. In fact, the issues swarm like flies over hot feces. Those wishing for me to disprove a non event, such as Mr. Obama's non Hawai`ian birth have never studied logic or discrete mathematics.

As for the foot in mouth Mr. Abercrombie, it's a big leap from running into Obama's father on campus and knowing details of this birth. Especially since Barack's father was the first papolo "black" person in the 60 year history of UH Manoa at that time to attend grad school. Hence would have attracted lots of looks and attention on campus, none the less having a hapai "pregnant" haoli "white" wife. Mr. Abercrombie, a lifelong self promoter and attention seeker would have naturally gravitated to Mr. Obama Sr.

Even in 1990, a black person outside of the athletic dept on campus, was attention getting. The sole black person in the Physics dept building being discussed frequently by the "local" students as this person would walk the campus mall or go from Watanabe Hall to Kennedy Library. At that time, do not recall a single person in the Natural Sciences building, Keller Hall that was black.

Mr. Abercrombie's comment "I was here when he was born" worthless as he was not present at Mr. Obama's birth. I doubt also that you can swear under oath that you had ever visited the house Mrs. Obama, your "buddy's" wife supposedly lived in on Kalaniana`ole Hwy near Hawai`i Kai. Plus few were protesting Vietnam in 1961.

The two birth announcements appearing in the local newspapers, The Honolulu Advertiser and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin, in 1961 needing further clarification. That the two newspapers were operating out of the same building at 605 Kapi`Olani St. More than likely, that the State Dept of Health, in 1961 was not prepared to deal with a birth where validity was in question. The staff being assertive and proactive promptly listed the names and birth events presuming that the request submitted was typical for Honolulu.

That before corrective measures were taken, the names submitted by accident to the newspapers with both Honolulu news groups sharing the same physical list of birth events. Hence by the time a potential error was noted and the application placed on hold, the birth events were published. It would not surprise me to learn that there is in fact a birth certificate request sitting in the hands of the Hawai`i State Dept. of Health, minus the final approval, stamped "rejected" or something to that effect. The easily produced newspaper posting being the only public and rather flimsy record contemporaneous of the time being offered to the public.

Let's also not forget that the former Hawai'ian Governor Linda Lingle did not personally look at the actual long form birth certificate. What Ms. Lingle did, was have the State Health Director take a "look" at the document, or so they say. Also very odd was that Linda did not want to take the time or make the simple effort to personally inspect the document, appearing indifferent to such delicate subject matter of presidential vetting, so easily satisfied. Today, incapable of speaking from personal experience to having viewed the document as appose to being relegated to reciting only “hear say”. Personally of the mind that the inspection act was structured and performed in such a manner so as to create a buffer of plausible deniability.

Who were the doctor(s) and nurse(s) at Kapi`Olani that delivered Barack? My ex-wife worked at the hospital and I understand the records, including test records such as prenatal testing are impeccable. I myself having been in the records dept can attest to the high level of attention to detail and why the certificate sequence issue is so problematic. That at a low birth rate hospital for the serial number on Mr. Obama's certificate of live birth to be several numbers (many days) out of sequence with the Nordyke twins is a serious discrepancy. Also, where are the foot prints for Mr. Obama? What public records even exist that can demonstrate Mrs. Obama was at Kapi'Olani on the day of Barack's birth?

Talk at Kapi`Olani, would have been openly unabashed, the city of Honolulu at the time very racist towards black people. Hence would not surprise me to learn that had such an event occurred at Kapi`Olani, the nurses and doctors on the birthing ward and elsewhere in the hospital would have been motivated, from a medical learning point of view, to see this new born hapa child. Even up until 1993, as CEO of a local electrical contracting company was not allowed, via point blank instruction by my company president, to employ black people. A practice that was common place at the time.

The democrats in the USA desperately attempting to paint a revisionist history and falsely romantic interpretation and understanding of race issues in Hawai`i. That from post WWII, racism in Honolulu was ramped and far from subtle, stemming from general distrust for non "locals" and in particular, negatively effecting people of white and other non Hawai`ian ancestries arriving from abroad.

Eventual and driven by other motives, leading to publicly addressed, highly charged racist statements in the 1980-90's by Haunani Trask, which to this day is a revered tenured professor by many at the University of Hawai`i Campus and openly tolerated as being justifiable. The University leadership, and some might say a prerequisite at the time, choose not to firmly address the acidic comments. Having once held a Hawai`ian real-estate license and property manager in the 1980's, encountered racism frequently, all a social norm at the time.

How did Barak's mother get to the campus living so far from Manoa and by what means? An acquaintance of mine lived only 1.5 blocks (~6 houses away) from where Obama's mother supposedly live on Kalaniana`ole Hwy near Hawai`i Kai. An expensive neighborhood behind Paiko lagoon and very odd location for an impoverished white mother and supposed UH student to live.

A fiancé of mine, father developed the subdivision in Niu Valley, and nieli "nosey" mother and all of her friends would have known in 1961-1962 if a black child lived in the area. A black child not associated with the military. Barack's birth more than likely the first hapa black/white to be born in the state that year off base, if not the first ever recorded.

In low density Hawai`ian neighborhoods, the birth of a child is as much a neighborhood event as it is family. Curiosity held by the "local" ladies would have been insatiable. All would have made or gave gifts for the new papolo baby, if for no other reason than to see this new born, regionally unique child. I haven't heard a single story about how someone gave this gift or that gift to the new mom or baby. Who were his local "aunties" that cared for the newborn? Very, very odd.

Who were these mystery people in Honolulu whose identities and kindness still have yet to be revealed and openly appreciated by Mr. Obama? Let's be honest, a real and salacious story of this nature would not have been missed by a local Honolulu production team at KGMB, Hollywood and or the Discovery Channel. Yet to date, nothing of substance, detail and evidence like some sort of immaculate birth.

The loudest Obama supporters like Mr. Abercrombie calling for the whole sale dilution of the Presidential vetting process. Hubrisly willing to accept extreme risk and associated harm to our country should they be in error, on behalf of the entire nation, a cost not theirs for the taking or accepting.

Hence, I challenge Mr. Obama to display the long form certificate to the public. As Mr. Obama's needs do not supersede those of this country and constitution. To do something new, step up to the plate and placate the 27% of America (CNN poll) or ~80 million people that do not believe you were born in Hawai`i. That percentage number being much higher in Hawai`i. That for me will be fully content and admit to my errors in public for ever having thought otherwise. Until then would be glad to challenge in public Neil Abercrombie or anyone else regarding Mr. Obama's absurd Honolulu birth claim.

Mr. Obama as an adolescent, I understand traveled from Indonesia to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. To do so implies that Mr. Obama had to have obtained Indonesian citizenship.

Should that be the case then Mr. Obama failed an elemental premise behind the rational in support of the XIV Amendment. That as part of his claim of having been "born in the US and subject to it's jurisdiction" has also failed to demonstrate the act of Perpetual Allegiance as per the "Summary View of the Rights of British America", 1774 argued by Thomas Jefferson.

Personally, I believe Mr. Obama and his fervent supporters on the mainland like David Axelrod, Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emmanuel and Oprah Winfrey simply did not take the time or show the necessary respect to make sure they had a full and intimate understanding of Hawai`ian culture before announcing Mr. Obama's candidacy for President. That Mr. Obama underestimated and failed to understand the preposterous nature of his claim because of the highly unique culture and demographics in Honolulu Hawai`i.

Add to that fact, that the majority of the people on the mainland know essentially zero about Hawai`i and fell for the bazaar story hook, line and sinker. Many others never did their home work like Harry Reid, Katie Couric, Bill O'Reilly, Whoopi Goldberg, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Hollywood and the scores of journalist at the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN, FOX ... living off of the fat of others.

Some even tried their best too consciously and with purpose, unpatriotically squelch the true story from developing or did not care to want to know the truth like to my great dismay, every current judge on the US Supreme Court, Eric Holder, General Collin Powell and David Petraeus. All of whom wear the guilt of a highly decorated and distinguished US Army officer and Lt Col. being sent to Courts Martial, convicted under a fraudulent Commander and Chief bearing false flag and sentence.

These outlets, arrogant, ignorant and or naive individuals all assumed that a black/white hapa baby in Honolulu could be as easily interpreted and explained away in just the same way as a new born child in New York or San Francisco, but nothing could be further from the truth. This has resulted in serious harm to our country.

Also intriguing is that Mr. Obama did not start to get strongly political till after his mother past away (RIP). As a lawyer, understood the need to be a US citizen, and with the passing of his mother, probably thought he was in the clear for there would be no immediate relative in the USA that could be questioned by authorities to dispute his claim to being born in Hawai`i.

Add to that, the interview with Mr. Obama's grandmother, where she states first that Barack was born in Kenya, in what sounded to be a very honest response. Only to be quickly coached, hand jesters if any not visible, by handlers to alter her maternally driven natural and first response from Kenya to Hawai`i, sounding akin to the "balloon boy's" attic comment, oops.

Therefore encourage the State of Hawai`i to amend their miss guided and prioritized privacy laws such that the US Constitution and the people have legal supremacy over state privacy laws when it comes to critical tasks such as vetting individual candidates for Presidency. In short, exhibit common sense as the needs of Mr. Obama, at the core nothing more than an elected official bestowed with public trust, do not exceed the elemental needs of the USA.

Let's not forget that the country of Kenya has already presented what the Government of Kenya claim to be Mr. Obama footprint record from the time of birth. Today would be interested to know if the two prints, that of the birth footprint and present day footprint of Mr. Obama match. Since, I for one am not ready to dispute the validity of the documents from Kenya, official that they are and contemporaneous, in place of the non rigorous and whimsical material presented by Mr. Obama today.

Hence, due do to all of the legal points of contention surrounding the proper vetting of Mr. Obama that our country has yet to resolve in a manner agreeable to both parties and today, having disputing evidence and statements from foreign officials expressing national jurisdiction over Mr. Obama, voiced publicly at the UN General Assembly, specifically in regards to the falsehood pertaining to Mr. Obama's birth claim; that it seems prudent, Mr. Obama's vetting process include additional supporting documentation. In particular, the displaying of official documents from either Kapi`Olani Medical Center or from the State of Hawai`i that are contemporaneous to Mr. Obama's date of birth.

Mr. Obama's continued behavior on this topic, to which any good and formally trained leader should be astute enough to recognize, is a strongly "demoralizing" element. The continuing unwillingness by the Commander and Chief to fear stepping up to the plate, and squelch this issues once and for all and from the perspective of producing only the most undisputable sources of evidence and not what is second best, second place being the first place loser. To cease playing "patty cake" with this topic immediately.

Hence, from all that I have observed of Mr. Obama's dubious behavior and manner in which he has handled this issue and his illegal Aunt in the USA, has given me no reasons as a prudent adult to justify taking and trusting this individual for his word.

Being more probable than not, that Mrs. Obama left Hawai`i before giving birth to avoid a rash of embarrassing public stigma that would have been generated in 1961 Honolulu from such birth. Knowing the odd nature of the birth for Hawai`i, and having not gotten wind of such event is probably why the Dept of Health in Hawai`i did not issue a long form birth certificate.

Odds are that Mr. Obama is perpetrating the single greatest fraud ever enacted upon this country since the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Mr. Obama being the product of the people of Chicago and the rest of the mainland knowing little of the unique culture, demographics in Hawai`i, and absurd nature of Mr. Obama's claim. The only possible fraud remaining, Mr. Obama could do at this point, greater in magnitude and scale, would be to try and have a team reenact this supposed birth at Kapi'Olani Medical Center. For to do so would definitely fall under the RICO Act, if not so already.

As for the senior Senator Mr. Inouye, shame on you for being so uninvolved, demonstrating so little initiative on wishing to resolve this issue. Choosing on purpose to remain seated at the children's table. Failing to take a more exemplary role and lead a working solution to resolve the topic once and for all. Instead, by inaction, letting the issue fester like a cancer, eating our country from within. As a former member of the US military, feel a shame and discussed with your continued silence and sheepish behavior.

Yes in the "big one" being WWII, you were a great hero to this country serving in the 442nd and I will always respect that portion of your selfless gift to our country in a time need. But today, feel perhaps you no longer possess that inner strength and why your withdrawn position. A position very unlike the vocal opinions you shared towards President Nixon back in 1974.

Last those in the USA, at this stage willfully ignorant and pretentious enough to support the Rico Act committing fraud Mr. Obama, I gladly challenge in public. Plus, those in support of the fraud and enemy Mr. Obama are potential traitors to this country, meeting the terms set forth in Article III Section 3 Clause 2 of the US Constitution.

Note, there is no statutory limit for the charge of treason.

Park McGraw

[anon]

First of all, a certificate of live birth is different from a birth certificate. If you don't know the difference, google it.

Second, agreeing that he's hiding something doesn't necessarily mean someone believes he wasn't born in the US.

Contrary to popular rumor though, it is possible to get a copy of an original "long form" birth certificate from Hawaii, so long as the individual consents to having it released. So the question I have is why not just kill these rumors now? All Obama has to do is make one phone call, and this stupid distraction would be settled immediately.

I have no doubt that he was born in Hawaii since numerous people, including the republican governor of Hawaii, have stated that they've seen it and there are numerous other documents that support that claim. Obviously the birthers are wrong, so why is someone well known for his pragmatism refusing to prove it one and for all?

The only thing I can come up with is he's doing it out of principle, he's using it to let birthers make fools of themselves, or there's something else that he doesn't want anyone seeing.

[marc awodey]

it's racism pure and simple. the press shouldn't be afraid to say so...

[Boo]

So basically, 45% of Republicans are incapable of understanding that a half-black man from Hawaii could actually be a United States citizen, and that this man could do well and rise to the position of President of the United States.

This is racism. Pure and simple.

These people are out of touch with reality, and don't realize the true ethnic diversity of our nation. Diversity is strength. Uniformity is death.

[Rky Mtn Patriot]

This "debate" is just idiotic. In the face of massive proof, one-quarter of Americans refuse to accept the truth. One has to question our educational system and its apparent failure to teach basic reasoning skills. So far, this snipe hunt has unveiled: proof of birth in Hawaii in the form of a legally-accepted, officially-recognized live birth document; two sitting governors (one from each party) and a health records official who've sworn to have seen the original, signed birth certificate (which by law cannot be released, even to the individual whose birth is recorded); birth announcements in no less than two Hawaiian newspapers printed soon after Obama's birth; and the fact that nobody could be elected president without passing this basic constitutional test. Yet 25% of Americans still refuse to accept the incontrovertible truth. If this breakdown in reasoning is the best America can do, we're doomed.

[dr reality check]

Doesn't sound like the Republicans will take the Senate or White House in 2012; if they stuck to the issues instead of nutcase diversions, they may have had a chance. If independents were a party, they could soon become a majority. Trouble is, there may not be much of a reason to vote, given the way our useless politicians campaign and act.

[walt Ingram]

I am absolutely astounded at the foresight of Obama's parents. Here was a black african and a white American couple, in an era when such a thing almost guaranteed their children to mediocrity at best, born before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and yet they knew that their son was destined to become the President of the United States. So they came up with a plan to get a birth certificate from Hawaii and some news articles announcing his birth. These were some smart people.. And now the birthers have discovered the trickery. Thank goodness there are these smart Republicans...

[pargrad]

Well, what can you say to this finding...there are a lot of ignorant people in this country. At least 55% of Republicans are sensible, fair-minded folks.

[Plethy]

Perhaps these folks don't know Hawaii is one of America's 50 states?

[akiddoc]

One quarter of all Americans are flaming idiots.

[GMK]

These people are disingenuous, and know full well that Obama was born in the US, with a US citizen for a mother. Only the most foolish of the fools believes otherwise. But, they like to say they believe it because they want to hurt Obama. Plain and simple.

[John Q. Public]

The title of the article should be shortened to "45% of Republicans Don't Think."

[CLYDE CASSTEVENS]

I 'M GOOD I SAID WHAT I MEAN.ITS ALLOWED OR IT AIN'T.EITHER I GOOD.CLYDE.4-22-2011-CLYDE

[wow]

At least 45% of Republicans are idiots. The rest are just mean.
(don't worry, it's just flame bait!)

[Paul]

45% of all Republicans and 99% of Tea Party supporters don't know or acknowledge that Hawaii is part of the US.

[md]

If a document created in 2008 has been "spread all around the Internet" then it must be true, right?

Just like those George Bush National Guard memos turned out to be true. Does anyone know why Dan Rather subsequently resigned?

[md]

Hawaii is part of the U.S.

It became a state two years before Obama was born.

It's possible their record keeping was poor at the time and thus they can't actually produce a long-form birth certificate.

But a Hawaii official said she had seen it.

So 25% of Americans want to see it.

Though they have been ridiculed endlessly and the president has spoken of the need for civility in politics, he won't sign his name to a release to put the issue to rest.

It seems he prefers the status quo.

Why? Because he knows that 25% won't be too forgiving if it all proves to have been a lie to hide poor record keeping by the state of Hawaii.

It's the cover-up that gets you.

[md]

"which by law cannot be released, even to the individual whose birth is recorded"

That is not correct. Someone has lied to you.

[md]

100% of Democrats don't believe a Democrat state official would create a false document in 2008 that benefited their party's presidential candidate but a good number of them believe the Supreme Court of the United States conspired to steal the 2000 election with the whole world watching.

Regarding this issue, a detailed poll would show a majority of Democrats believe that all the information that can be released, has been released.

That is not true.

And if we were talking about George Bush instead of Barack Obama, you can be darn sure they would want to see the original just like the people they are calling names now.

[J Noffke]

This is absolutely ridiculous. One) If the GOP has such a problem with the potentiality of him not having a valid birth certificate, they would have produced an "actual" one by now to void him of his presidency. It's also been THREE years that he's held office now. THREE years, and the GOP is complaining about his Hawaii birth certificate POSSIBLY not being legitimate? Give it up - starving for media attention really doesn't help the party much, no does it?

[Andy Martin]

Politico posted a long article on the Birther issue and I have responded:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563_Page4.html

This is a valiant attempt to collect all of the “Birther” chronology but it really misses the point of the “natural born citizen” requirement of the U. S. Constitution. I was the first to report on Obama’s (which he has now admitted) dual nationality at birth. I am preparing to post an explanation of the “natural born citizen” requirement in the U. S. Constitution on one of my blogs.

Second, you make a valiant attempt to sort out what Hawai’i has done but overlook two matters. I filed the first lawsuit to release Obama’s original long-form certificate in Hawai’i in 2008 (CNN covered the filing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshRJ4yxafk&feature=related

and it was only after my lawsuit that Chiyome Fukino made her last-minute “verification” of Obama’s birth.

Moreover, there is no statutory impediment to release of Obama’s long-form birth certificate, which I firmly believe he is hiding because of embarrassing information contained on it. The “we can’t release the long form” is nonsense first propagated by Michael Isikoff in 2011. The original typewritten/handwritten 1961 document (which Fukino described in more detail for the first time in 2011) is a historical presidential archive that can, should and will be released in due course.

I respectfully disagree with your conclusion and that of Republican Party leaders that the Birther controversy helps Obama. It is completely corrosive to his presidency.

[kalona]

I agree with Trump. Obama is a friggin' IDIOT! Name me ONE thing this idiot has done to improve the life of the average American?? Is the economy up and running? Did he make this country great again?? Is he gonna pile on even more friggin' taxes on top of the ones he's already put in place against small business and ALL the companies out there that would hire his own citizens for a damn job?? Hell NO! He's making it worst!!! I hate the man! The only thing the man can do is campaign. Takes an idiot to read a teleprompter guys, takes a man of vision to lead us to greatness. So Michael, put that in your pipe and smoke it, since evidently you've been smokin' everything else. The man is nada and ALWAYS will be NADA! I've had the chance to live aboard Michael... you'd be surprise in how they make fun of your president. They agree that this man has NO business running this country. Oh! BTW? I'm black, so don't use your feeble race card on me man. I'm just surprised you could even spell the word "intelligent". Get real or get lost.

[CJ]

Even if OBAMA was NOT born in the US (which he was), he would still be an American citizen. Why? Because his MOTHER was an American citizen. So let's just put all of this crap to rest. Yes, Pete, I'm talking to you.

[md]

CJ: "Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were BOTH citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States"

[Judi]

I was skeptical of Obama being born in Kenya until now, and I think there has to be something to it. I am neither a Republican nor a member of the Tea Party, but Constitutionalist/Libertarian. It is funny how the Democrats keep defending Obama. It's just like the Republicans defending Bush.

[Jason]

Good god, how do these rightwingers even feed themselves?

[Aversa]

I heard that there is a percentage of Democrats who do not believe that President Obama was born in the U.S. What percentage is that?

[Jerry]

Never is a million years will any republican be accused of intellectual snobbery. What fools these Republicans be.

[True Lbserver]

No Hawaii official has said that they looked at Obama's Certificate of Live Birth in their records. They have said that it was on file. This could have been done by looking at an index. The Fukino statements are especially interesting. She mixes and matches Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth by referring to the document as Birth Certificate. If you parse her written statement, you will see that she never says that she personally looked at the Certificate of Live Birth.

""Therefore, I ...have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said."

Why would anyone use double talk like this to say that they had seen the original birth certificate?

She is saying she saw some record that said it was on record. She cannot report what is on it if she never saw it. Moreover, it could be reported as an original birth certificate and yet not be one since no one has seen it.