Half of Republicans polled still don't believe Obama was born in USA

More than a week after the White House unearthed President Obama's original, long-form, Hawaii birth certificate, only 48% of Republicans polled said they believe he was born in the United States.

In a poll conducted by Public Policy Polling from May 5-8 of 610 Americans who usually support Republicans in primaries, 34% said they did not believe Obama was born in the U.S. while 18% said they still aren't sure.

Of those surveyed, 77% considered themselves either somewhat or very conservative while only 7% identified themselves as either somewhat or very liberal.

Despite the majority of those polled agreeing with other birthers, Donald Trump, who most loudly demanded that the president release his birth certificate, fell significantly in the PPP poll.

The billionaire last month led other would-be GOP presidential hopefuls with 26% support from those surveyed, but this month Trump slid below former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (19%), former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (18%), former Speaker Newt Gingrich (13%), and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (12%), and is now tied with Texas Congressman Ron Paul with 8%.

"As Trump got more and more exposure over the last month, Republicans didn't just decide they weren't interested in having him as their nominee, they also decided they flat don't like him," PPP wrote in their blog post titled "Trump collapses."

"Only 34% of GOP voters now have a favorable opinion of Trump, to 53% who view him in a negative light," the North Carolina pollsters blogged.

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Photo: President Barack Obama laughs in the White House briefing room on Wednesday as he speaks to reporters about his birth certificate. Credit: J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press

Comments

[The Derider]

See, we called it.

Birthers were never interested in facts. They're only interested in attacking the first black president.

[jim sr]

obama has been an embarrassment to the office of president and as such a lack of trust has developed
which is supported by the numerous lies he continues to spin

[David]

Really Jim sr? Care to back that up with some hard "facts"? Care to compare and contrast with the embarrassment of the corruption, manipulative office that was GW Bush?

(and just so you know- opinions don't count as facts.)

[Native Angeleno]

I did not vote for Obama---i voted for a real black, Cynthia McKinney, not an oreo---and i would never vote for Obama.

Yet, to all his Republican masters, including the ones who don't know they are and hate him, understand, You had a president, too, who was not born in this country, Chester Alan Arthur, whose other siblings were born just across the border in Quebec, where the family lived, while Chester discovered when someone asked, that he, for some unknown reason outside of presidential politics, was born in Vermont, instead. Like >< magic!

He wasn't half bad, either. He was a pig in a ring of bosses in New York state when he got on the ticket with James Garfield, to balance out Garfield's reformist qualities, as a deal Garfield had to accept to get in power and change the corrupt government of HIS time. Unfortunately, Garfield was killed 6 months into his term by a political opponent portrayed by the party as a guy mad for being turned down for a government post.

Arthur, who was expected by insiders to then scotch the entirety of Garfield's reforms, surprised everyone by making sure they were carried out. Enraged, the Republicans refused to nominate him for anything the next time around.

That's the Republican Obama. Except, joke's on the Democrats, he is as corrupt as Bush was! and has changed next to nothing.

So, Republicans, enjoy the joke, and that once a guy is sworn in, no one in authority is going to remove him just because he wasn't born here. He's already got massive power, and so the game begins.

Just be grateful, Republican Constitution-haters, Cheney, who lived in Texas several years before becoming vice-president, was found by an equally corrupt judge in Louisiana that Cheney's Texas residence did not disqualify him as the Constitution states he was, for living in the same state as the Supreme Court-elected president Bush Jr, because like Arthur and Obama, once you're sworn in It's Over.

The lesson is, in America you can steal elections and not even be born in the country, so long as you can take your oath to defend the Constitution!

You can even be a Mormon, who you would never nominate, or from Uranus, like Trunp.

[cv collins]

"obama has been an embarrassment to the office of president and as such a lack of trust has developed
which is supported by the numerous lies he continues to spin"

Posted by: jim sr | May 10, 2011 at 01:24 PM

That makes me laugh. An embarrassment? How so? The embarrassment has come from the likes of you who made the first African-American president feel so bad he had to release his long form birth certificate. He got OBL and still he's not "one of us." The reaction to his presidency has made me, yet again, ashamed of being an American and having to share that label with mouth-breathing idiots who can't even tell that the GOP is screwing them while whispering 'Jesus' in their ear. If you're a millionaire, or better, it makes since to support the GOP. If not, you're just a blind tool. The most pathetic form of 'life' on this planet.

[Mike Granada Hills]

This is truly the party of idiocy.

They have no message to present and what is sad is when they look to cut the budget it is always for domestic programs that a lot of Americans need to survive right now.

Why not cut foreign aid throughout the world and let China pick up the slack since they are rolling in so much American money thanks to the Republican free trade policy.

Finally lets cut the budget on the two ongoing wars and bring the troops home and have them guard the Southwestern border of this country.

[Michael Bourque]

An embarrassment ? How? By being the second Black president (don't forget Bill) of the United States.

[Abunker]

To The Derider...you mean the first bi racial president, right?

[michael]

When I saw that Donald Trump's poll numbers among republicans are dropping I thought maybe there aren't as many loons in the party as I thought. I guess I was wrong.

[Doug]

Jim Sr is an embarrassment to humanity, in my opinion.

[Rodney]

So? More than half of democrats believe George W. Bush wasn't legally elected president. Didn't stop him.

[truth to power]

No doubt the same half of all Republicans also think the world is flat!

[Tom Birchfield]

"Not Surprised At All"

Well as a registered Voter/Vet USAF, the Republicans also "STILL BELIEVE THEIR BOY BLEW IT BUSH/REPUBLICAN who lost "A RECORD 8.5 MILLION JOBS....did a good job?

..."In fact the Republicans would line up again to put this fool back in if they could...

..."So...I'm not surprise..."Not surprised at all!

[Meg]

Doesn't really matter if he was born in US. If he was, he still is not eligible. Both parents had to be US citizens at the time of his birth, which his father was not. Of course, this is according to the Constitution, if we still follow it.

[Thnkful4HisGrace]

jim sr. I feel sorry for you. You have allowed ignorance to rent a small space in your underdeveloped brain causing you to be a tormented individual who cannot discern between truth and error. It must be very difficult for you to survive from day-to-day.

[truth seeker]

It sounds like 50% of Republicans haven't heard that Hawaii became a state...in 1960!!!

[GHOST OF XMAS FUTURE]

Gee, wonder why we wouldn't accept such "evidence" /sarcasm

Obama has NEVER released clear, certifiable, and unambiguous documents that would prove his natural born citizenship.

L.A. Times "journalist" hacks, try to pay attention:

Zero did NOT produce a BC.. he produced an electronic facsimile of a copy of an alleged BC

With no borders,

no seal,

missing language at the bottom from HI that certifies information is from the original record,

no note of amendment on line 23 he was adopted as Indonesian,

no note of 2006 amendment HI Dept of Health indirectly confirmed,

an impossible b.c. number/dated filed in comparison to other b.c.'s the following day at Kapaolani Hospital,

a document that opens up in layers in which the text has NO chromatic distortion -- separate scans were therefore pieced together to create a document forgery.

Monday, May 2nd, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals oral argument hearing on Zero's Natural Born Citizenship eligibility (100 around country now), the DOJ lawyer provided by WE THE TAXPAYERS to defend the office of the Presidency didn't show what Zero and lamestream propaganda media called "proof". Court fees and legal fees could end by showing it, provenance would be established for other cases as well. So why did Zero's counsel not present his purported "birth certificate">?

Why is that?

(crickets)

[Lori]

For all of you who call birthers racist... let me burst your bubble!

Herman Cain 2012
Herman Cain 2012
Herman Cain 2012

BTW... HE would be the first African American President!!!

Yours is just as white as he is black...

[MT]

Highly liberal progressive here that KNOWS Obama is hiding his real birth certificate.

I didn't vote for cokehead bush, I didn't vote for crackhead Obama. I don't vote for lying, warmongers; and I am not fooled by this latest birth certificate release.

Obama is a liar, I don't believe a thing he says and I don't trust anything he touches. He is a lying sack of crap politician and I would be a fool to take him seriously. He is just another rich, power-hungry sociopath beholden only to his corporate gods..

As a true liberal, I am going to have to side with my conservative neighbors over the narcissistic politician that is Barrack Obama. Whether I agree with them or not, they didn't lie to me about ending wars only to start a new one.

[TronUI]

There's nothing to complain for progressives. Continuing subscription to this farce only splits Republican vote: 34% - 48% - 18% (approximately speaking) against any disreputable candidate.

[MT]

"I did not vote for Obama---i voted for a real black, Cynthia McKinney, not an oreo---and i would never vote for Obama."

I voted for McKinney, too!

Obama is a disgusting, habitual liar. If he says he was born in Hawaii, he was probably born at the South Pole.

[MT]

"That makes me laugh. An embarrassment? How so? The embarrassment has come from the likes of you who made the first African-American president feel so bad he had to release his long form birth certificate."

Oh dear God, no!!!! He had to show his long form??? What madness is this??? The long form!!

Oh poor, poor Obama. He's such a victim! Hurry rush to hold his baby-head in your bosom to comfort him at such a devastating time. How does he manage with such unreasonable demands??AND he is president, too! Whatta guy, whatta leader.

And you are so brave to come to his rescue – to come to the rescue of a political class sociopath that hates your effing guts. Obama has truly given us all so much and yet we demand so much in return. The horror of it all. Shame on us little guys...

Give the man millions for another vacation! He needs it, no questions asked, of course, that would be racist.

And I am sure Obama has, by now, ordered the State Department to stop requiring birth certificates when issuing passports...that racist State Department!

[DG3]

Ignorance is bliss, apparently.

I used to think that conservatives were, by and large, somewhat more educated than the general population. But that notion went out the window years ago, and they actually seem to be getting dumber by the month.

[Joe Schmoe]

You Obots are so pathetic. You have blindly followed this Marxist Muslim without ever checking him out. Do you really believe that he sat in Reverend Wright's radical church for 20 years and never heard him say any Anti-American things? Do you really believe Fact Check of the Anneberg Foundation when Obama sat on the board of the Anneberg Challenge? Do you really believe Bill Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood? Do you really believe Hawaiin Officials who have changed their stories so many times it makes your head spin? Do you believe an altered Document which has many movable layers and is showing no signs of aging even though they claim it is a copy of an original document from 1961? If you would just check on-line you would find hundreds of sites that claim this latest birth document is a forgery while only a miniscule few claim it is official. Do you not know what a Natural Born Citizen is? Do you think the fact that Obama was adopted in Indonesia and was registered in school there as an Indonesian Citizen and a Muslim has any bearing? Do you think it is alright if our President seals and scrubs his past so that no-one can find out his true identity? Do you think that it is OK for Obama to have committed Social Security Fraud by using a SS# that belongs to a Connetticutt man who was born in the 1890s? Don't you think that just maybe there might be a slight chance that this man is a fraud and that he needs to be checked out? No, I forgot you are the Obots that blindly follow this fool while he is determined to destroy our great country. Fools

[affableman]

Basically what the poll is saying is half the Republican party is either really stupid or really racist.

[Marcia Twane]

This is great news...it truly restores my faith.

I had begun to think that only a small percentage of republicans were idiots...apparently it is closer to half (just to be clear, I am talking about the half who do not believe our president was born in the good 'ole USA)...

[Andrew Masset]

OMG...just how stupid and idiotic are Republicans???!!!I swear their mothers ( or whatever bore them) did not give them enough 'tit time'!! Grow up!

[wowlfie]

I think Obama is an illegal. Why? Because his dad was NOT an American citizen (Kenyan). And his mom, when she married him, forfeited her American citizenship and so she went to Hawaii to have the child she was an illegal herself so by definition Obama is an illegal. He may have been born here but he is an illegal!

No wonder Obama loves illegals.

He is one himself!

[Mark]

This guy is far from Black...
You should ask the Dems too. all of my Dem friends think the birth thing is a big cover up.
Typical Dems still blaming Bush. Well I will take it a step further I still blame J.Carter for the mess in America.

Now that I think about it Obammy is Black he has been bought and sold several times......

[Rick Drake]

After Obama is elected to a second term, I can't wait to see all of these ignorant, pathetic, you can't fix stupid, Republican heads explode!

[doug]

Fact: He did not release his long-form birth certificate until two plus years after he became President. Why?

Fact: The most powerful man in the world is more than capable of having a forged birth certificate created.

Fact: He went to school in Indonesia. Indonesian law does not allow non-citizens to attend school.

Fact:Indonesia does not allow dual-citizenship so Obama had to renounce his US citizenship, if he ever had it, before going to school in Indonesia.

Etc., etc.

[John]

they KNOW he wasn't born in the USA -
they know he was born in Hawaii -
what they don't know is that Hawaii is part of the USA

[Ron Cram]

When a birth certificate is stamped and filed back in 1961, the number on the stamp would automatically go up by one so no number would be accidently used twice. Obama was born Aug 4, 1961 and the released birth certificate was stamped and filed on Aug. 8. Susan Nordyke was born Aug 5, 1961 and her birth certificate was stamped and filed on Aug 11, 1961. Obama's birth certificate number is 10641. Nordyke's number is 10637. How did Obama's birth certificate get a higher number than someone born a day later and stamped and filed THREE DAYS LATER?

This is clear evidence Obama's birth certificate has been altered.

In this MSNBC story, Dr. Chiyome Fukino said she saw Obama's birth certificate and it was "half typed and half handwritten." The birth certificate the White House released was completely typed except for the signatures which can never be typed.

Anyone can look at the birth certificate online and see letters which share the same vertical space - this is an example of kerning which happens with computers but not with typewriters. Kerning was the exact problem that proved the Dan Rather documents about President Bush were forged.

Birthers are interested in facts. These are the facts.

The LA Times should do a story on Thomas Moodie. He was elected governor of North Dakota but in 1935 the North Dakota Supreme Court removed him from office because he did not meet the requirements laid out by the North Dakota Constitution. This is sound legal precedent for removing Barack Obama.

[Johnsy]

Happily, it doesn't matter in the least what they believe.

[BA]

These people (ignorant 'birthers', AKA racist) are just too stupid to have a vote.

[MT]

"This is great news...it truly restores my faith.

I had begun to think that only a small percentage of republicans were idiots...apparently it is closer to half (just to be clear, I am talking about the half who do not believe our president was born in the good 'ole USA)...

Posted by: Marcia Twane"

Evidently, Marcia Twane spreads her cheeks for any habitually lying politician as long as they have a 'd' behind their name.

LMAO. As if the democratic party cares about you, Marcia. Whatta dumb twit. You really are a good little c*nt to keep your stupid trap shut. Good c*nt, nice c*nt.

[The Facts]

A pdf file with multiple layers and various anomalies is not a "fact." Especially when it contains several characteristics of a false document released many months ago. Check out YouTube...the experts very quickly found the WH released document to be far from a "fact."

No investigator has actually looked at the original piece of paper. Any 13 year old can create what the WH produced.

[The Facts]

This is great news...it truly restores my faith.

I had begun to think that only a small percentage of democrats were unintelligent...apparently it is closer to all of them (just to be clear, I am talking about those who believe that our president is a Natural Born Citizen, having 2 U.S. citizen parents)...

[Winski]

Don't you clowns think that the purely racist remnants of the rethuglicon party is finally a story that you, the media, has rung this story out with it's last drip of venom?

These people will continue to be ignorant racist fools forever and as long as America has a VERY smart, BLACK president that threatens their concept of a lilly-white, Aaren America, regardless of their tooth count, you are going to get the same result to this poll since you keep asking the same people!

The numbers at this point, reflect the MEDIAS' bias as well... classic 'what do you want the numbers to say" Rasmussen polling techniques...

[MT]

"I am talking about the half who do not believe our president was born in the good 'ole USA)..."

Hey Marcia,

Any real, thinking and peaceful human being believes nothing that comes out of that warmonger-liar Obama's lying lips.

You are a neocon, Marcia. A neocon. You may as well call yourself a bush-supporting rethuglican, that's what you are, sweetie. Got it, girl? So shut out of executive politics....democrats hate women, girlfriend – they hate you. Tiny nothing of a woman...you belong to party of sexist bullies.

So why don't you just vote against gay marriage, against fair pay and for war and extending all of bush's policies-- because that's what you get with Obama.

No intelligent person would ask me to believe a liar like Obama. Black, green, yellow or orange--he is a filthy disgusting lying pig. He was probably born on Uranus...but he was definitely not born where ever he claims--that would require telling the truth and owning his own past--and he cannot and will never do that.

[Mike]

They believe it; they just don't want to say it to a pollster. Spiteful pinheads.

[john]

good effing greif. even if he weren't born here, he's more american than all these birther idiots.

[The Oracle]

That makes me laugh. An embarrassment? How so? The embarrassment has come from the likes of you who made the first African-American president feel so bad he had to release his long form birth certificate. He got OBL and still he's not "one of us." The reaction to his presidency has made me, yet again, ashamed of being an American and having to share that label with mouth-breathing idiots who can't even tell that the GOP is screwing them while whispering 'Jesus' in their ear. If you're a millionaire, or better, it makes since to support the GOP. If not, you're just a blind tool. The most pathetic form of 'life' on this planet.

Posted by: cv collins | May 10, 2011 at 01:56 PM

cv collins and all other liberals,

He is an embarrassment because of Obamacare (that is going to rape hardworking Americans of their money). Because of his terrible foriegn policy (Bowing to the Saudi King, Entering a country we were not suppose to be in, & being a Muslim lover wanting to destroy Israel). His Economic Policies (Re-distribution of weatlh or more commonly know as Communism, Government control of private companies & backing Unions that are destroying America).

Being Friends with a known Terrorist (Who helped him write his book) in which Obama said, That at the end of the world he would stand with the Muslims.

Also, can we please stop wasting money on Planned Parenthood, the National Endowment for the Arts and every other worthless program that is not an esstential function of Government.

Signed - A Patriot

[gtoya]

maybe if you stopped ASKING them about this crap....

[Jessica]

Half of Republicans polled could not find the US on a map...... of the US.

[gtoya]

@wowlfie -- your sheer LACK of knowledge regarding citizenship is astounding...i'm flabbergasted that you actually believe what you're spouting is factual. It frightens me that someone of such limited percipicacity exists.

[The Baron]

Those same Republicans also believe the world is really flat and that the earth was made in 7-days 16,000 years ago.

[Ron]

Let's see the poll numbers on the pct of Democrats who believe Bush planned 911.

[The Oracle]

Let's Poll the number of Democrats who have Guns vs. the number of Republicans that have guns..............then have a civil war.

[The Oracle]

Those same Republicans also believe the world is really flat and that the earth was made in 7-days 16,000 years ago.

Posted by: The Baron | May 11, 2011 at 01:07 PM

@ The Baron

Actually, The Earth was created in 6 days, your lord and savior rested on the 7th day.

Conservative beacause everyone can't be on Government assistance.