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Tim Profitt blames police and his bad back for his Kentucky stomp and wants victim to apologize to him [Updated]

Tim Profitt wants an apology from Lauren Valle

Tim Profitt, the admitted Kentucky head-stomper and Rand Paul volunteer, wants his victim to apologize to him.

"I don’t think it’s that big of a deal,” Profitt told WKYT television Tuesday in Lexington, Ky. regarding the controversy surrounding his violent reaction to Lauren Valle attempting to pose with a sign next to the Republican nominee for Senate. "I would like for her to apologize to me, to be honest with you."

Before the incident, Profitt was the Bourbon County coordinator for Paul. On Tuesday, the campaign distanced itself from Profitt and relieved him of his duties. Quite a turnaround considering that, the day before, Profitt's name was included on a full-page newspaper ad that included Paul supporters.

What led to the incident? Upon viewing this video that was uploaded to YouTube on Wednesday, Valle, wearing a red hoodie and carrying a sign, appears to rush toward Paul's open window as his vehicle approached the debate. She is pulled away from the window by Paul supporters. Then once the SUV has stopped, she runs around the vehicle toward Paul a second time. It is then she is brought down.

Conservative blog Red State says this newly surfaced video sheds doubt on Valle's claims that the Paul people were out to get her.

"Toward the end of the video, you see several Paul supporters asking a police officer to come intervene. It was Paul supporters who told Profitt to back off," RedState Insider blogged. "It was Paul supporters who brought the police. Contrary to the growing narrative on the left, this video clearly shows that Valle was not the victim of a conspiracy to 'take her out.' "

WKYT interviewed Profitt on Tuesday, and although he admitted to the violence, he asked that the news camera not show his face.

"I put my foot on her, and I did push her down at the very end, and I told her to stay down," Proffitt explained. "I actually put my foot on her to ... I couldn't bend over because I have issues with my back."

Profitt, who has been charged with assault, continued to blame police. "Well I'll just say it, if the police had done what they were supposed to do, it would have never happened," Profitt told WKYT.  Earlier, he told the Associated Press that his friend had asked police officers to arrest Valle. "A friend of mine went up to three policeman before Rand got there and told them about the girl who was standing there with that wig on and that she was getting ready to do something," Profitt told the Associated Press. "The policemen looked at him and said, 'That's not our job.' "

Tuesday, Valle appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown With Keith Olbermann," where she said that she would pursue legal action. "We are proceeding with the legal process," said Valle, who was at the Rand Paul / Jack Conway debate on assignment from her employer, MoveOn.org. "I plan to see the process through. I think it's very important for people to be held responsible for this sort of behavior."

[Updated 2:31 p.m.: When asked if she thought that Valle could have concerned volunteers by rushing toward Paul's vehicle as it was moving, and then later rushing at Paul himself when he was walking toward the venue,  Ilyse Hogue, director of political advocacy and communications for MoveOn.org, told The Times that no one should have felt the candidate was in any danger from the young woman.

"Lauren made no secret of the fact that she was trying to get a picture with Rand Paul and her satirical sign at this event. If the candidate, or any of his supporters, felt threatened by a girl with a poster, once they had pulled her away from the car, the threat had passed," Hogue wrote in an e-mailed statement.  "Nothing justifies the violence of her head being stomped on the curb once she was on the ground. This is nothing less than the men involved, and the Paul campaign, once again trying to justify an obvious assault once they have been exposed."

In a separate statement sent to The Times earlier Wednesday, Hogue said she was offended by Profitt's statements to the media.

"I am offended and outraged by the words of Tim Profitt, the Rand Paul campaign worker who, with two other men, threw 23-year-old Lauren Valle to the ground and then stomped on her head, leaving her with a concussion. Profitt said the attack was 'not a big deal,' that Lauren 'instigated it' and that 'she should apologize' -- words that are eerily familiar to many women who have faced assault and abuse," Hogue wrote.  "Lauren's exercise of her 1st Amendment rights cannot possibly justify the violence against her any more than a woman's clothes can excuse a sexual assault. If Tim Profitt can get away with blaming Lauren for his attack on her, then women -- and all those speaking out for their beliefs in this political climate -- will have reason to fear. Candidates on both sides of the aisle, including Rand Paul, must condemn Profitt's outrageous statements and call out this violence for what it is: anti-women and anti-American."]

-- Tony Pierce

Photo: Tim Profitt of Paris, Ky., is joined by other demonstrators as he attends a rally in support of Republican Rand Paul in Lexington, Ky., on March 2. Credit: Associated Press

 
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Lauren Valle never came close to Rand Paul at all.

Did anyone see Tim Pruitt defending OUR Constitution? Neither did I!!

Did you not see her in the first part of the film come from behind a line of people and run into the car on the passenger side where Rand Paul was setting and thrusting the large card (sign) into the window. The sign unlike others appeared to be stiff. A reasonable person would question to what degree she had to push the people in front of her out of her way? Another reasonable question is how did she make her way from the passeenger side of the car, around the back of the car (that is the car which was carry Rand Paul) while it was moving in a thick crowd of people? Then she appeared in the front of the car after it stopped to attempt to gain access to Rand Paul from behind as he walked away unaware what was going on. Who did she have to push? Maybe the Paul campaign should also document the supporter who were pushed out of the way by this innocent lady from D.C. Remember she did all of that movement in a thick crowd of people.
She may not want to recosider pushing charges as if justice were truely served she, herself, could be charged.

It was pretty obvious there was no crowd control and the Rand Paul supporters should not have had to shield him from possible harm. How did all of those people know this woman meant no harm? What was this woman's intentions, why was she wearing a wig? The camera of her partner was ready to record only the parts of the video they wanted viewed.

The Lexington Police did a poor job, I know they had the personnel to deal with this crowd and conditions were right more people could have been hurt. Why was the lady permitted to run around to the front of the moving car? Many questions. A reasonble conclusion is the person who put his foot on her back was stupid (for lack of a better word right now) and she (the 'victom' should also face charges.
When has it become legal to run up to a moving car and jam a stiff sign in the window?


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It's hard to imagine that they really thought her pushing a sign at him was a threat, but let's say they did. The man in the suit (orange tie) rushed her but then turned and went back to the SVU. (you see him a again a couple more times) He is obviously security. He didn't follow her out, he pushed her away and went back to Paul. This is where it should have stopped.
Security was in place and handling it.
She ran around the back of the truck and when she came back, she was not headed for Paul, she was obviously running away from the guys chasing her (:55 in video), Paul was surrounded by security moving him through the crowd. So, at this point any perceived threat was truly over. Had she attempted to follow Paul, his security could have taken care of it from there. But she didn't follow Paul, she was running away from her attackers.
In KY you cannot make a citizens arrest or hold anyone for the police unless an obvious felony is being committed. There was none. They took her out after the fact, there was no weapon and it looks pretty obvious she was giving him the sign, look at her hand when it is near the window, she is pushing the sign though (:18). If they had done nothing, Paul would have had the sign in his lap and that's it.

RE fairly unbalanced, the video was not taken by her partner, this was was sent anonymously to redstate, and the other was taken by the Fox news affiliate.

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I'm with dom youngross (post on October 26, 2010 at 09:03 PM on the other article dealing with this). AND to all you sheeple who rant in your righteous indignation, WATCH THE PRE-VIDEO VIDEO! It shows that Valle rushed Paul's car AND SHOVED HER SIGN THROUGH THE CAR WINDOW. Now, for those of you who don't remember your history, Google Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and Sara Jane Moore (who fired a .38 cal pistol at Ford). I try to be a Southern gentleman, and not manhandle "gentlewomen" under any circumstances... but I DO exercise the right of self-defense, and the common sense to restrain someone who I perceive is a threat to others.

Which is more egregiously damnable... attacking and severely injuring, without provocation, a vendor selling Tea Party merchandise (as was done by SEIU thugs), or immobilizing a potential threat to a candidate (and putting your foot on the perpetrator's head/neck is an effective way of doing that).

This perpetrator (Valle) was (and is) obviously an agent provocateur, and deserved what she got... and after viewing the pre-video, I trust all talk of filing charges against Profitt will cease. Perhaps the D.A. will consider charges against Valle... as he should.

ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES... Something that libbies/proggies seem to feel only applies to others... not themselves.

First thing's first -- nothing will ever excuse the head stomping.

Profitt no longer works for Paul's campaign. He hasn't in several days. To call him a "Rand Paul campaign worker" is an outright lie.

That said, rushing toward the open window of a moving vehicle is dangerous. If this were a young conservative, wearing a wig and whatever else, rushing toward Conway's vehicle, some people would probably accuse him/her of being armed.

If I was there - I would have beat the living hell out that woman beater!! What a poor excuse for a man!

Holy crab! It's the Nazi Brown Shirt goons. What a bunch street thugs and hoodlums.
Thought we got rid of them 60 years ago. They are back as your friendly neighborhood Tea Party!!!

Nice one fairlyUnbalanced.
Not only are you a sign of the times in the US but you prove that Obama is right in saying that the US needs a serious overhaul of the education system. It's "Victim" not "Victom".

The woman was exercising her constitutional rights (the ones that are left after Bush removed most of them) and was clearly assaulted. She is tiny. She was clearly subdued as soon as the first full sized man took hold of her. Did it require another man to assist in slamming her to the ground and then an further one to stand on her head?

The fact that you try to make an excuse for it tells us all we need to know about you. As a foreigner watching from abroad it's amusing to watch the similarities between the Republican Party and Fox news and the Old Soviet Republic and their propaganda machine. It's a mirror image. Incredible.

As a sane American (Having seen Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert I know there are some) it must be depressing. It's sad to see. You once had a great nation and now people like you have your country in the top 3 most hated countries in the world and that is truly sad. Personally I believe and hope that it just that people like you just have bigger mouths and it will all sort itself out but sadly I'm not 100% sure.

This man and the other two that helped him should be charged with assault and get the maximum sentence allowed as they are pure cowards.

Come on America. Give Obama a chance. He inherited a mess nobody could possibly fix in 2 years.

These are poor excuses for men and human beings. Having watched screaming, blathering, wigged-out conservatives polluting our national debate at town hall meetings last year and having seen none treated violently, I'm appalled at the actions of these brave "men". I don't know how they can continue to live with themselves.

Okay, let's break this down. Did Valle intentionally run toward a vehicle as a stunt to embarrass the candidate? Yes. But you can do that in this country. The concept that the cardboard sign was dangerous is bull and I think we all know it. And running toward a vehicle when there is no security cordon is perfectly legal. So are political stunts, stupid as they may be.

Now, security had a right to remove her from the vehicle. Heck, even the first guy who tackled Valle was probably in the right. The issue is STOMPING ON PEOPLE'S HEADS is not cool. It is illegal. End of story. You cannot justify it. There was clearly no danger to anyone when he stomped (as she was being held down by other people, was immobilized, etc.)

So to summarize, stomping is bad. That is assault. He should be convicted and she should sue him.

Everything else is sort of a side show. Can we all move on now?

The only thing more appalling than angry beer-bellied Tea Puppets stepping on this woman's head is the excuses and rationalization offered by posters here.

Seriously, a threat because her sign "appeared" to be stiffer than other signs? Really? Thats the justification?

Its so sad that Tea Puppets are so focused on finding a target for thier anger that they not only ignore the fact that they nominate uninformed nutcases as candidates but they are willing to justify ANY action by thier mob.

Now that "the attacker was a SEIU plant" is debunked, they will quickly shift to "well, the Black Panthers would have done that too". Sad, ugly, selfish little Tea Puppets.

Any type of bullying should not be condoned by the Rand Paul Campaign. This campaign is condoning the behavior by not firing any member if their staff who engages in bullying. I think this woman has grounds for a major lawsuit against the individual involved and this certainly says something about Rand Paul's character too in not standing up for her.

This woman knew she was acting an agent provocateur and got exactly what was coming to her. If she had run up to Harry Reid's entourage or Pelosi's goons or any other liberal candidate and placed herself in a threatening manner, she would have been unceremoniously stopped and retrained with force. For good reason I might add, as people are far more likely to use violence to accentuate their political spectrum, such as the black panthers patrolling the outside of the voting booth, the ACORN thugs, the SEIU crazies, the MECHA traitors and other loonies inhabiting the foul stench of the leftist political air. So Lauren Valle got exactly what she deserved. Get over it and move back to the issues including confiscation of guns, wealth and freedom by those who disrespect the Constitution.

This is very typical of a "Rand Paul" supporters. Unsophiscated, uneducated, uncivil and totally "caveman" in action.

He has a bad bad alright, no spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was a delegate for Ron Paul, but I totally condemn this brute force by these thugs. Pushing her away from the car and surrounding her would have been enough. But, there is not excuse for what these bullies did. Several men against a young petite woman, no way can anyone justify this action. For those who excuse this brutality, do you think it helps your candidate? It makes you look like a third world banana republic dictator. I guess the other side should hire their own counter security, the next time someone could be killed.

He should have never touched her. He should have been arrested immediately for assault.

There's aggressive and there's assault. It seems too many posting pro-stomping comments on this forum don't know the difference. Too many seem to have taken the self-professed 'entertainment' forums of Rush, et al, seriously as they continue to portray those holding opposing political beliefs as criminals and kooks engaging in subversive actions against the state.
Or perhaps we're finally learning what state the right wing wants, and we should call it what it is: the Right Wing Reich.

"Barry Hussein," defending a man who stomps on a small young woman-who is already on the floor, restrained by two other men-merely because he shares your political views is both pathetic and disturbing. It's this kind of black-and-white tribal attitude toward the American two-party system, on both sides, that is making our country more dysfunctional and stupid. Your comment about liberals "disrespecting the Constitution" is not only empty rhetoric, it is also, in this case, completely illogical. Who was "disrespecting the Constitution" in this situation; a woman exercising her Constitutional right to free speech, or the man who attacked her because she was using her Constitutional right to free speech? Even if she was trying to "provoke" violence against her, which I doubt, that doesn't make Profitt's actions, including blaming other people and demanding an apology from his victim, any less disgusting.

I do not think a stomp is worth a flip unless there is some blood. This fellow didn't do a very good job. I say just mark this incident up as a failed attempt to stomp, and try and do better next time. I do not feel sorry for the girl, because she was a trouble maker and there for that very reason. Maybe she will think twice before doing this in the future.

Scientific studies must be done to exactly pinpoint in time when a conservative's brain turns to solid bone.

Tea Partiers are "trouble-makers". Guess it's time to purchase some steel toe boots.

it is a shame that the gop and the tea party would condone this type of behavior.as a democrat we would never behave in this manner.this shows the american people just what typs of lying hypocrites your party is.to hell with the gop and the so call tea party,your orginzations are a joke.

So we have a right to jam whatever we want into any Senate candidates face, while disguising ourself in a wig?

We have a right to rush at that candidate?

I am slowly beginning to realize why liberals think it is more important to read a terrorist their Miranda rights instead of dealing with them as a terrorist.

@cruisingbull: You say actions have consequences and that somehow only "libbies" don't realize this. But it's Tim Profitt who immediately tried to blame police and not take responsibility for his action of stomping on her head. Interesting how it's actually the RIGHT WINGers who refuse to understand consequences of actions. The events at the rally disproved your claim even before you made it!


1.Paul supporters perceive threat, recognizing a felon/eco-terrorist. They request police assistance before, during, and after Valle's lunges. They were told "That's not our job". (Many officers were available at the Fayette County Victory Office on 10/30/10.)

2. Valle's first 2 lunges toward Paul were deflected. On the first attempt, she made contact with Paul through an open car window. On the second charge, she was again redirected. Upon the third charge, IN HER WORDS, someone pulled off her wig and she slipped.

3. This was a well-orchestrated set-up. The plan? Google "Hillbilly Report, YellaDog, MoveOn.Org". Note Valle's smile the entire time. SHE SAYS she protected herself by taking the fetal position; this may have been due to training. SHE GIVES several versions of what happened, as do media, including that she was kicked numerous times, or stomped repeatedly. Why did it take her partner/peers so long to intervene, if she needed protection? They were right there; you might not recognize all of them pretending to be Paul fans.

4. See the truth on youtube: "Rand Paul and Lauren Valle". There are lots of different versions. Google: Lauren Valle for more distortions. Try to follow her story; it doesn't follow. She says she came down for the event. She says MoveOn hired her for 3 weeds. She says the Rand supporters knew her (history) because she had been around for 2 weeks. She was seen elsewhere hugging Dr. Paul. The newest video show Valle and her pal chanting Rand Paul, with the "award" sandwiched between two Rand Paul yard signs. All premeditated on her part, CONway's part, MoveOn.org's part. Hillbilly/Yelladog helped to rally the CONway troops.


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