Joseph Farah, to cheers at Tea Party Convention, again questions location of Obama's birth

If the National Tea Party Convention hoped to keep its focus on political organizing and its message on limited government, it has had little success so far.

Capping the first full day of the meeting, right-wing instigator Joseph Farah spent much of his dinner speech questioning whether President Obama was born in Hawaii and casting doubt on whether the president was legitimately elected.

“The media, the politicians … all say, no, it’s all been settled. I say, if it’s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple,” Farah’s said, as his remarks were cheered by the roughly 600 activists gathered in Nashville for the event.

Farah runs WorldNetDaily.com, a conservative tabloid, book publisher and tireless critic of the administration.  He dismissed those who say he is obsessed with the birth certificate issue saying, “I admit it, I’m obsessed with the Constitution.”

Farah said he believed establishing lineage was important for leaders, using Jesus’ genealogical ties to King David as an example. Obama has produced his official Hawaii birth certificate; though those associated with the “birther” movement claim they want to see a copy of the original document issued.

Farah’s comments followed remarks from former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo on Thursday night in which Tancredo called Obama a “committed socialist ideologue.”

Farah went on to urge tea party activists to think beyond winning congressional elections in November and “take over not only the political institutions, but the cultural institutions, like the press, the entertainment industry, the universities, and yes the churches.”

“Are you ready to engage in a cultural war after we take back Congress?”

“Yes!” the crowd yelled back.

-- Kathleen Hennessey

Photo: Bill Bruss of Winfield, Ill., gives away plastic bags in the vendor area at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville on Friday. Credit: Associated Press.

Comments

[Eliza]

These people are terrifying.

[Jennifer]

In the midst of economic instability and the need to address issues such as comprehensive immigration reform and healthcare, this man remains completely consumed by Obama's place of birth. Rather than attacking the Obama administration and utilizing his intellect and resources to manipulate people with empty rhetoric, he should focus on the real issues and empower people to work towards bettering our current situation rather than perpetuating negativity and anti-government sentiment. It is necessary for people to do their own research and formulate their own critical opinion of what is going on. Relying on someone like Joseph Farah to reveal "the truth" will only lead to disappointment. This man is utilizing religion and the faith of the American people to instill a cult-like mentality. I hope that people recognize this man's far fetched agenda and intolerance for diversity. In my opinion the views that he is perpetuating are completely anti-American. His close-mindedness, negativity, and racism are completely evident. I am truly disappointed that in a time when political parties should attempt to unite and negotiate ways to move this country forward, individuals such as Joseph Farah are committed to maintaining hostile relations and a lack of understanding between these groups.

[Sam Sewell]

"Obama released his Hawaiian birth certificate and had it verified by an independent organization and the results were posted online for everyone to see."

Repeating this false propaganda over and over does not make it true.

No matter what you might think there is no escaping that AKA Obama is not practicing the virtue of full disclosure.

In 1961, the Public Health Services, U. S Department of Health, Education and Welfare, National Center for Health Statistics, National Vital Statistics Division published the "Vital Statistics of the United States

Here is a blank copy of the Standard Certificate of Live Birth used by all states including Hawaii., This is the information being hidden by Obama.

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/blank-b...

Plus read the article that is included with the blank copy.

Who Certified AKA Obama as "Natural Born"?
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/11/this-fr...

The only conspiracy is the media and the obots who suppress the revelation of AKA Obama's history.

Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html

[Torily]

Eliza, I completely agree with you. If the Tea Party wanted to make a big statement today, it certainly picked the wrong person with the wrong message. Farah mentioned several times the ambition to bring back a government true to the Constitution. However, people have the undying right to exercise freedom of religion. He certainly narrowed his support right there. He mentioned, "MOST (Christians) don't have their priorities in life straight." Who are these "many" Farah? God does not discriminate and neither should you. Furthermore, I didn't quite understand the point he made concerning Obama turning "make-believe crises into real crises just for the sake of bringing America to it's knees. For one thing, some banking corporations brought a lot of hard working Americans to their knees and now most of them need help. Secondly, the Health care costs at this time are outrageous. For the people who do not have medical benefits due to loss of jobs or corporate cutbacks, the idea of the Government taking an initiative toward promoting positive changes to help them is quite refreshing to me. Finally, the economy, which was the last thing Farah mentioned, is not a make-believe crises. People need jobs and they need to feel secure again. Rioting and bashing an administration that is trying to deal with all these issues is like facilitating a fire to burn your own house down.

[Dirty Daug]

There is no use for the Tea Party people to keep on harping on the birth issue. More than likely Obama was born in Hawaii, but here is the reason for the birth certificate he has presented. Obama's mother was an under aged white girl that was knocked up by an older married black man from another country. Obama's mother lived with her parents, so when she discovers that she is pregnant and tells her parents who it is the $hit hits the fan as Obama's grandparents are not to much on the thing of their daughter having a black baby since they are from middle America and this was in 1961. Teenage white girls having a black baby in 1961 was not cool especially if the grandparents were from Kansas. So more than likely the birth certificate was not done in that moment in time, so who delivered the baby only god knows who. Maybe later the birth certificate was got by the word of Obama's mother or the grandparents which makes what Obama is showing the true birth certificate for him as that is the only kind he is going to get. Now before some of you people get your a$$ in an uproar and say that I'm just a racist, I was 23 years old in 1961 and believe me that's the way things were back then with most everyone with any pride at all. Maybe this is what Obama is hiding along with other things like maybe he lost his citizenship and never bothered getting it back.

So now lets get with what the Tea party people should be harping about. Obama was elected to work for the people and not for self interest. Obama should not apologize to other countries because he thinks American was doing wrong and for sure he shouldn't be bowing to the kings of other countries. I could go on and on about what obama has done wrong but its too much for this posting.

Now all of you nit wits dig into my posting and make all sorts of fun of it. This will let me know how friggen stupid you are.

[hsr0601]

1. BURNING CASH ON WAR, followed by the astronomical deficit that constitutes most of debt in America & MUM ON DEFICIT.

2. No alternative other than the same old policy that led to this crisis.

3. Fix the eight year long chronic diseases at once, or we will return to the same old, already failed path for only a few.

4. You may cure the ailing folks, but do not add to the deficit.

[Mike]

When will people wake up and perform their duty to question the government? Obama has NEVER made public his original birth records. Period. The only item published was a computer generated document. Obama has avoided any and all questions to his past and spent more money than most of us will ever make keeping it from us. My personal issue with this tactic, the taxpayers, you and I can not conduct business without the long form, why is he allowed to? Is he above the law?
I view people that disregard this issue as a threat to our constitution.

[PhoebeMoses]

I watched Farah's speech...and although his mention of the controversial issue of Obama's birth certificate was indeed mentioned it was only a small part of his entire address to the convention. I think his expose' of the history of the Progressive Movement (whose chief goal is to render the Constitution irrelevant) dating back to the early 1900's and moving to the present day Obama administration has the mainstream media upset (worried) because their guy has clearly lost the argument when it comes to God, freedom, limited government, national security...taxes..you name it. For a President who has a law degree in Constitutional law from Harvard and not know the differences between the Declaration of Independence and the Preamble of the Constitution is another shining example of why we need to take back our colleges and institutions. The Tea Party is here to stay much to the dismay of both Democrat and Republicans, the mainstream media and those ultra left wing subversives who would take great delight in destroying this last great beacon of Light and Freedom.

[Judy Strickland]

On C-span today, at the Tea Party convention, a lady who was born in Hawaii showed real, long-form Hawaiian birth certificates, and they don't look at all like the one Obama is touting as his only copy obtainable. She had a birth certificate for her husband and son and told the audience to compare them to Obama's. Say what you want about the Birthers, the birth certificates are not the same as other Hawaii-born Americans because the Doctor and Hospital are not even shown on Obama's. To this day, historical records cannot show who delivered Obama and at what hospital he was brought into the world. Hmmmmmm. . . .

[Alex Constantine]

It's a fascist movement. That's why these "conservatives" are so irrational. But the media can't bring themselves to recognize fascism, so we depend on gentle euphemisms to explain the fall of America, because we must be kind to state propagandists with CIA ties, "obsessed" with the Constitution ... that they want to destroy in favor of a genocidal theocracy.

[forseti]

The issue is not the President, the birther lawyers, or the Tea Party itself. The issue is the U.S. Constitution. The first paragraph of the United States Supreme Court's website makes the following promise to the American People - “As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution.” To date, the United States Supreme Court has failed to do anything in furtherance of the search for the truth about Obama's natural born citizen status. Furthermore, not one single solitary person or agency in the Executive, Legislative, or the rest of the Judicial branch of government has done anything other than accept Obama’s posted Certification of Live Birth as conclusive evidence of his alleged birthplace.

Mr. Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. As his only evidence that he meets the Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a President be a natural born citizen, he produced a scant summary document called a “Certification of Live Birth,” which he posted on his website under the title: “Barack Obama’s Official Birth Certificate.”

At first blush, it is case closed. A closer examination of the facts, however, reveals that Mr. Obama failed to point out on his website that his posted “Official Birth Certificate,” as he called it, is actually a 2007 computer-generated, laser-printed scant summary document of his 1961 vital record(s) on file with the Hawaii State Department of Health. What we do not know, however, is what 1961 vital record the Certification of Live Birth is summarizing.

In 1961 there were at least six different procedures available to obtain a vital record (birth certificate) that the Certification of Live Birth could be summarizing. Five of the six procedures lacked adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness because they were fraught with the potential for fraud. That said, an “official” state-issued document that summarizes a document that lacks adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness is not worth the paper it is printed on. Scans of the original Hawaii Revised Laws from that era can be found at http://birther.com.

I'll close this post with a quote: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

[john]

were do i signup for the tea party?i cant wait to get started. everything you stand for is me and the way i feel.

[Steve Erickson]

After the election in 2008, I predicted that the Republican Party would now devolve into the US' first proto-fascist political party, which, while suposedly national in scope will only be able to actually seize power in the south (and perhaps Alaska). This assumes that the economy does not get (much) worst.

I really hate to be saying I told you so.

[disenchanted]

Eliza and Torily. Do you realize that obama has spent over 1 million taxpayer dollars hiding his birth certificate, school grades, et al? Did you know that per the Constitution the President has to be a natural born citizen? That means both parents have had to be born on U.S. soil. Did you know that when his stepfather adopted him whatever citizenship barack, steve, barry or whatever his name is held, he became a citizen of Indonesia and lost the other citizenship? Do you know whether barck, steve, barry of whatever his name is legally changed his name from barry soetoro to barack obama? Do you know why he relinquished his law license? Well that is known, he lied on his application about not having had other aliases. Do you know that he lied about being a Christian? Christians don't pray to mecca and hold prayer vigils in the WH. Do you know that he has down-played the terrorist attack on the 30 soldiers at Ft. Hood, the terrorist attack of 2 soldiers in Arkansas and the underwear bomber? What leader of the free world would side with the muslims? Oh yes, he said he would.

This man is hiding something. I can only hope and pray the liberals, rinos and democrats that are going to lose their seats come November and those that remember who they actually work for will wonder, and persue barack, steve, barry of whatever his name is and ask for his impeachment. Just wait, this won't be too far in the distance. This man has committed treasonous acts and should be impeached, imprisoned and possibly deported.

If you continue to drink the kool-aid beware, it could be toxic.

[wildthing]

I think Obama learned to be a constitutional lawyer so he could learn how and where and when he could change it to read the way he wants it to, to benefit him.

Everybody needs to the see the animated movie called "Animal Farm". I bought mine at Wal-Mart for $1.00, but now if you want one, it is $21.00 on Amazon, I think it was. I go to several different web sites.

It is about how the rules get changed to fit the way "they" want them to. It really is a "must see" movie, especially now days.

[John]

What most Americans do not know is that their are different type's of birth certificates that were given out in Hawaii, one type was given for kids that were born on the island itself, the other type was given to kids that were born in another country which happens to be the type that Obama has and was shown on the internet. This document was shown to a forgery expert and it was deemed to be fake. Obama has spent almost 2 million dollars in legal fees to hid his real birth certificate, college papers,and every other source of information that would expose him for the fraud he is. Almost forgot, his childhood address used in Hawaii on the fake birth certificate turned out to be a garage attached to a house, the residents that have lived in the area for over 50 years do not have any knowledge or remember any obama's living in that area.

[Charley]

It is really very simple:

Release the documents.
Birth Certificate (not Certificate of Birth)
Education Records
Employment Records
All Income Tax Records

Until they are all released, Americans have the right to question what is he hiding?

Requesting these records is NOT unreasonable.

[Jason]

So, where is the Birth Certificate, NOT the Certificate of Live birth? You know, the certificate that has the Hospital Name and Doctors signature? Where is that one, the only official one? While the CLB is ok to get a passport, its not enough to prove requirements to be president ya know.

[Torily]

@ Disenchanted, or whatever your name is, there is nothing in the Constitution stating a President must be a Christian. Did you know we have the right to exercise freedom of religion? Surely the agrarian Tea-Baggers know that, even though they believe everybody who matters in this free country is or should be Christian. Furthermore, the Ft Hood shooting was committed by an army Psychiatrist who I might add was flagged way before the dreadful incident occurred. What does that have to do with Obama?
Maybe you would like to keep out everyone who is different from yourself from being a member of this country but as far as I can see that is not going to happen soo...get used to it already. :)
And may I ask, what does your connotation of kool-aid mean? And, are you a racist? These are important questions because I would really love to know who the supporters of the Tea Party movement are.

[jim]

If Obama produced his official birth certificate then please tell the readers which hospital he was born in? Don't bother though because you can't. You need to read up and educate yourself on the facts. It is pretty simple to understand but if you don't want to understand then you will never understand.

But really his Natural Born Citizen status is the question. Obama's father had a kenya and british flag on his back, his mother had an american flag on her back. That means Obama had a Kenya, British, and American flag on his back. Please explain to me how that would make Obama a Natural Born Citizen per the constitutional requirement to be president? Answer, he wasn't eligible. You can't deny those facts.

I think you need to let your agenda go and write about the facts because you have lost all credibility as a journalist.

[Darren Potter]

Writer, Kathleen Hennessey states: "Obama has produced his official Hawaii birth certificate ...".
That statement is not true.

Obama has never "produced his official Hawaii birth certificate". Obama's campaign posted what was supposed to be a scanned image of Obama's "Certification of Live Birth". A "Certification of Live Birth" is not the same as a "Certificate of Live Birth" (aka Birth Certificate) and does not carry the same legal weight.

Prior to Obama running for President and being sworn in, Hawaii did not recognize a "Certification of Live Birth" for all legal matters involving the state of Hawaii. Instead Hawaii required a "Certificate of Live Birth" for some legal matters. Hawaii, has since changed their laws to "post" cover Obama's claim.

Additionally, the posted scanned image is not a legal document because it has never been certified as real by an Agent or Officer of the Court. It is a common misconception that Federal Election Commission verified Obama's Natural Born Citizenship status (Constitutional Eligibility to be President). The FEC is on court record as stating it was not their duty.

Instead the FEC claimed that duty fell to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. However, an Agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and two employees at FBI's Washington HQs have stated the FBI does not check or report on a candidate's Constitutional Eligibility to be elected to Office. In short, no one with any legal authority has bothered to demand proof.

Finally, the scanned image posted by Obama's campaign has very subtle markings on it that point to it being a string of copies that was first posted on PhotoBucket, then posted on the DailyKos website. This was before it was ever posted by Obama's campaign. A genuine copy (scanned version) would have come from Obama, and been posted on Obama's campaign site first - not last.

Until a credible (unbiased) Judge / Law Enforcement Office can unequivocally state they have seen a Court Certified Legal Copy (or the actual paper original) of Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth"; then all we have is Obama's claim. A claim that no one should accept given Obama's past string of broken promises.

The most amazing part of all this is that we are required to show our passports to re-enter the United States; but no-one required Obama to show his "Certificate of Live Birth" (or even his passport) before handing him the "Nuclear Football" (aka ICBM Launch Codes). Currently, we have a person sitting in the White House who may not legally be POTUS. A person who has repeatedly refused to release certifiable proof...

[Skip Gainer]

Why has Obama spent around 2 million dollars keeping his real birth certificate and other school records sealed from the public? You do not think this is a little questionable and strange. You would think our president Obama would want the American to know about his birth and upbringing. It could make a pretty good movie. Obama was born on Auguest, 4th I believe in Hawai so says the media. His mother was in class in Washinton State on Auguest 19th of the same month and year. How could that be? records clearly show this to be true.

[Chris]

I would like to know what hospital Mr. Obama was born in. Maybe he was born in Hawaii. But which hospital? As far as I am aware, no hospital in Hawaii is claiming credit for the birth of the new Messiah. Why is that? why, in these horrible economic times isn't Obama's birth hospital cashing in on his celebrity? They could be selling 'Obama born here' T-shirts, commerative dishware, frisbees, you name it, maybe donating all the proceeds to charity. But nothing. Why isn't there a whole cottage industry cashing in on Obama's birth place? No one will answer that question for me. Perhaps the LA times could enlighten the Obama supporters, so they could at least have the opportunity to make a mecca-like pilgrimage to this consecrated place.

[TIRED OF THE LIES]

The article states, "Obama has produced his official Hawaii birth certificate;..." This is clearly UNTRUE. No "official" Hawaiian birth certificate for Mr. O. has EVER been produced or shown anywhere. What was posted online on the election website (and subsequently removed) was a graphic of a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH, which is nothing but a form that is typed up indicating various so-called "facts"... NONE OF WHICH HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN, BECAUSE THE REAL (ORIGINAL LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE) DOCUMENT IS BEING HIDDEN.

PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU DARE TO PUBLISH UNTRUTHS AS IF THEY ARE ACCURATE.

[Don Biggs]

A certificate of birth is not a birth certificate.Once and for all shut us up PLEASE show the damn original birth certificate and send us all crying away.Obama knows the truth, if you people had any sense you would understand why he has spent so much money(my tax dollars and yours)just to prevent anyone from seeing the real proof.Not a birther here just a constitutionalist.God has put all this in place.Enjoy the last days.WW3 is on the horizon

[April]

To: Dirty Daug -- get a clue. I love how you liberals always twist LOGIC! The law is the law is the law. The law in 1961 was that the mother be at least 19 years of age to CONFER CITIZENSHIP and/or the father. Since we all know that Obama's father was a British subject, he's out on that one. And, since Obama REFUSES to prove that he was born on American soil, there's that little snag. Either way, Obama still wouldn't be a NATURAL born citizen! It's so pathetic that people like yourself just explain away something of such importance. There is a reason the founding fathers required this in the Constitution -- they wanted 100% allegiance to the United States of America. And, one thing I'm positive of, is Obama is NOT 100% committed to the US based on his actions, comments, Apologies from America tour to Europe (who campaigns for the US presidency in EUROPE?!?). In a way, Obama is the best thing that's ever happened to the US. It's made apathetic, lazy Americans who take for granted their freedoms to wake up! It also created a movement, The Tea Party movement, which is comprised of AMERICANS of all party affiliations who are tired of big govt, big spending, overtaxation and using the Constitution as toilet paper! Enjoy your hopey/changey thing while it lasts. Nov. 2010 is going to be a bloodbath that makes 1994 look like a picnic. Tick tock...

[Ned]

Article II, Section I states, in part, "No person, other than a Natural Born Citizen, or a Citizen at the adoption of this Constitution will be eligable to be President of the United States". First off, the language of the Constitution does not depend on the majority vote in any given election. Here we have the Contitution, which establishes the rules of the game, and they are telling us that we can ignore the rules as long as we win the election. That means that the Constitution is no longer a constraint on the use of power. Once you win the election, you can do with the power, you obtain, anything you like even if it's contrary to the Constitution. This implies that it's not a Constitution anymore. It doesn't constrain the power of Government; it doesn't limit it's activity; it doesn't struture it's behavior; it doesn't establish rights that need to be respected in the way Govenment goes about doing it's job and doing it's work. So Constitutional Government becomes a dead letter in that it's supposed to be a constraint on the use & abuse of power. Once you decide that any given election ends the relevance of Constitutional language, in any area, then you have established precidences for abuses that will, in the end, be used to destroy every right, to destory every limititation. Secondly: How many people know what "Natural" Born citizenship means?

[CommieBlaster]

Anyone who spends $1.7 Million in legal fees to hide his documentation has got to be hiding something. Learn more (a lot more) about what Obama is hiding here: http://www.commieblaster.com/obama/

[Ruler4You]

This is only a distraction from the real issues. Some day the truth will be "outed" and will either validate or invalidate everything this president has done or said whether or not it was actually supported popularly. And that will result in us bearing the burden of his crappy socialist ambitions or the striking of every effort from the books that he achieved, turning the clocks back.

[BOB1943]

There are only two reason why someone would NOT be a birther:

1. Your head is buried in the sand.

2. You don't have even an once of common sense.

The man has no paper trail...no medical records, no school records, no adoption papers, no law records....no nothing......it has all either been destroyed or is locked up under a pile of lawyers and 2 million taxpayer dollars....so far.

The "birthers" are the one with common sense who are not afraid to speak up to defend the U.S. Constitution.

The issue isn't going to go away and it will, at the very least, prevent Obama from running in 2012.

[joseph]

Bill Mahr said it best....show me your grade school diploma. What nonsense. The world is falling apart and this genius needs a piece of paper to glue it back together. Shame, shame, shame.

[Sam Sewell]

The Constitutional Law Professor
During the presidential campaign, Obama consistently and falsely claimed that he was a constitutional law professor. The Sun-Times reported that, "several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama's primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He was not. He was a senior lecturer at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles.

[ihatethemedia]

I see the racist liberal media is working overtime to spread as much disinformation about this grassroots movement as possible. Next, they'll "report" on one or two anti-Obama comments overheard in the ladies' room and try to spin that as proof of the Tea Partyers KKK-style racist intent to harm the President.

Keep it going, Kathleen. You're not fooling anybody who can see through your bigoted agenda.

[DRM]

These comments are hilarious. I can hear the black helicopters on their way. Obama has spent $1 million, no... $2million!! And and and the birth announcement in the Honolulu paper is obviously a forgery (because its was all part of a plan hatched prior to Civil Rights legislation to have a half-black man elected president of the United States 49 years later)...and and the "fake" birth certificate doesnt list an address, the news announcement does! (and its a house if you google map it!)...and and I forgot to mention how there's a cadre of people who can't even forge Kenyan birth documents as part of their own delusional conspiracy to perpetuate whole non-story.

Way to go teapartiers keep talking about things that have no relevance for health or economic policy. If you really want to resolve this, why has no one filed a law suit with the state of Hawaii to reveal the records? Probably because finally getting a hold of them will be very disappointing

[Me]

Torily, you obviously just don't get it.

[junglejim123]

Wake up you idiots..what Obama "released" is not a birth cerificate. He relies on the ignorance of so many of you thatacccept al the manure that he is peddling. You dont spend almost 2 million DOLLARS to fight lawsuits if you havea birth certificate that can be produced for $20 dollars... Wake up already.

[Torily]

@ Me, Why don't you enlighten me then. What subject would you be referring to?

[Salaam]

Obama -- CORPSE-MAN (not once but twice)..... where is the intelligence in the way he pronounced that word? Not saying for a moment he is not intelligent, but he is far from being the smartest person to have ever walked the earth the way the left and the liberal media portray him to be. He has middle of the road intelligence. As far as being a president -- he is horrible and does not have a clue.

Birth certificate? Why not release a long form birth certificate that shows which hospital he was born and the the doctor that delivered him? The type of birth certificate he has posted on the internet was able to be obtained by anyone, even if not born in Hawaii. All one had to do was have to witnesses that stated one was born in Hawaii. Period. Nothing else. Again, why not release the long form birth certificate?

Why not release his school records? Did he go by the name of Barry Soetero when he registered in Indonesian and Hawaiin schools? That means he was adopted by his Indonesian stepdad, which would disqualify him from being president here in our great country. Why not release his Harvard grades and records? Did he get foreign student assistance? He is super intelligent so it must not be because of his poor grades that he refuses to release.

Why has he spent over 1.2 million dollars to stop the release of all this information?

He is president of ALL Americans. One would think he would want to show anyone that has any doubt that he is a legit president, just out of decency.

I needed to show a long form birth certificate when I wanted to join my little league team back in the day. ALL military personnel need to show their long form birth certificates when they join, and our president is the leader/commander-in-chief of the military, but he refuses to show his long form birth certificate. And there are many many other times where ONLY long form birth certificates are accepted to complete proper legal papers.

I really do not know if President Obama is eligible to hold his position because of of all this secrecy in regards to his past.

Mr. President Barack Obama, why not be a president to ALL the people and show without a doubt that you truly are eligible to be president?

[Show Me State citizen]

BATTLE HYMN OF THE UNSINKABLE BIRTHERS!
(Sung to the tune of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic")

Mine eyes have not yet seen
Obama's birth certificate.
It is in the Devil's Vault,
Where only God's Right Hand can get.
Obama's C. O. L. B. is a
Lousy counterfeit.
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

We shall fight the Masked Usurper
On the beaches, in the hills.
We shall fight this Painted Joker
On the seas and in the fields.
We shall fight to Hell and back
And into court and with appeals.
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
It's truth we're marching for!!!!

(Author grants permission to reprint on web or in print and to perform in public)

[We have been lied to]

News reports show Obama paid almost $2M so far to lawyers to hide showing a real birth certificate. This article is misleading beacuse Obama showed a short form birth certificate that foreigners can get. It also was generated recently with laser technology.

It's time to be honest. If Obama lies publicly as he did Sept 13th to the USA saying abortion was not in government healthcare, but it was, and saying healthcare talks would be on CSPAN but he instead had closed backroom bribes (Nelson, Landieu...) Why would anyone think a chronic liar is telling the truth on anything?

Obama and those not defending the USA with him, should be replaced today!

[Martin King]

"Obama has produced his official Hawaii birth certificate," states the author. This is either a deliberately ambiguous or an false statement. The document that establishes actual proof of birth with the required and customary facts has never been offered by Obama or anyone else. The document that Obama -- or his associates -- has offered is one which is commonly available for children who were not born in Hawaii.

[Lenny]

"Obama has produced his official Hawaii birth certificate"

Not true. It is LA Times had published some a computer generated image of Certification of the Life Birth, which is a different document. And even this COLB picture was heavily edited using Photoshop software.

Potentially forged image of the graduation picture is hardly a sufficient substitute for a medical diploma.

[matt]

If a terrorist organization wanted to really destroy the US, could it find a young muslim from indonesia with ties to the US through his birth mother and a radical communist background - then send that young man to college through US grants to foreigners and get him connected into the underground socialist/communist movement in order to sway the political landscape of the nation? Could they use the disguise of "individual donations" through paypal and other online payment systems to raise money for that person's political campaign? Could the electronic voting machines be hacked? Could this organization bribe many of the 535 lawmakers into signing unreasonable and overburdoning taxes onto the rest of the people of the US for personal gain, and maybe even get him to destroy the banks, destroy its world renoun healthcare, destroy its car companies, etc.? Would the citizens of the US recognize such a terrorist threat? Would that terrorist organization have the means to bribe other US officials into conflicting their own rules and regulations over birth records in order to keep a conspiracy from brewing?

I'm just wondering.....

[Tony]

Oh wow. First off, Obama has NOT SHOWN A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. EVER. He produced a computer scan on the internet. He can't get a driver's license with a scanned copy on the internet, but he can get the single most important job in the country? For those who think the "birthers" are stupid, read the last sentence again. Research everything about the Birth Certificate controversy, and then come back and read the sentence again. If you still don't think the "birthers" have a point, read on. He has shown an online scan and a scanned copy of his birth announcement as proof. This is not proof. It would not be admissible as proof anywhere a birth certificate is required. McCain was questioned as to his citizenship by Congress and he had 2 US citizen parents! Obama has had no scrutiny from official sources at all. His father was a foreign national. His mother went on to marry an Indonesian, Obama had an Indonesian passport not issuable to non-Indonesian citizens. By my count, if he was born in Hawaii, he would have grown up with triple citizenship. We know next to nothing about this man. No college information, no college papers, in the Senate he rarely even voted so no real voting record. Meanwhile he comes in, pushes a Health Care Bill most people do not want. A bill which is really scary if you have actually read it. It gives the Federal Government unheard of access to your financial records, and the ability to automatically withdraw money from your bank account. Not to mention ways to limit the cost of coverage, especially for the elderly. Even a section specifically about limiting coverage for special needs individuals. The death panels is not exactly an exaggeration, it's an oversimplification for "end of life counseling" which can result in an order for "end of life". There are monetary penalties for anyone who refuses to participate (unless they belong to a union, traditionally a Democrat voting block. Coincidence?). It actually contains the following phrase "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax imposed by this chapter. ...". Seriously, this is the bill that will help us all with health care. Anyone who has ever dealt with a government agency should be scared of one controlling all health care. Think of all the nightmares you have with your current insurance coupled with all the nightmares you have at the DMV. The man has, in less than a year, quadrupled the deficit the Bush left us after 8 years. Wake up, you morons. And for the idiot who called tea-partiers "facist", get a dictionary. Facism is government control of private industry. Like government being able to dictate to banks, fire the CEO of an auto manufacturer, run the health care industry...Hey! This is starting to sound familiar!

[Tony]

To DRM:
The reason for possibly doctoring birth records and announcements does not have to be about being eligible for President. It can be about Citizenship, period. If you knew anything about this you would know that his mother was legally unable to confer US citizenship at the time. His father obviously could not confer US citizenship. If Obama was not born in Hawaii then he, like his aunt, is not a US Citizen at all, and has no legal right to live here let alone lead the country.

[Waltz]

'"Obama released his Hawaiian birth certificate and had it verified by an independent organization and the results were posted online for everyone to see."

Repeating this false propaganda over and over does not make it true. "

Exactly. So repeating that he hasn't shown it, that it hasn't been verified doesn't make THAT true. Please stop and move onto some real issues.

BTW, McCain wasn't born in the States. True story, He was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

[gm]

No Kathleeen, dear, Obama has NOT produced his birth certificate. A digital image of a"Certification of Live Birth" showed up on a liberal web site, but that is NOT a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth, which you can't even join the Little League withou, but evidently can become "President" without.

I suggest you do some research.

[Mike Young]

The only thing the usurper has produced is a document(proven to be a forgery) that represents an actual official birth document. Understanding that a NBC consists of 2 TWO parents of legal age and established citizenship to a specific country(USA in this case). S. Anne Dunham was too young to transfer citizenship at the time of birth, AND B. obama Sr. was a foriegn national studying in USA without ANY USA allegience. The father was a Kenyan, and citzen under british rule. The child born has no NBC status even if the birth was within US borders, and there has been no difinitive proof or evidence of that ever happening. Adding to the ruse are his adoption procedures. No official documentation has ever been brought forward. The majority of American Citizens understands he is a fraud. Frustration grows from the inaction of our elected officials concerning the blatent disrespect and disdain held against our Constitution. Facts prevail.

[DRM]

To Tony

What are you talking about? Citizenship for newborns in the US is conferred by right of jus soli - all his mother would have to do is have him born here. She was 18 and hadn't left the country so probably had no passport. Where else would he have been born? There's no way she could be 'legally unable to confer citizenship' - its the same principle at work with why conservatives are driven crazy by waves of 'anchor babies' of illegal immigrants.

If these are 'simple questions' - why have people gone so far as to create and pass off a forged Kenyan birth certificate in order to claim he is not a citizen? Where's the objectivity in that? This is more than just trying to 'establish citizenship.' The state of Hawaii officially recognizes his birth records. That is a fact. But thats not good enough. I suppose its only worth trusting the government when it may suit some ridiculous conspiracy story. Why hasnt Orly Taitz or some other wacko gone to petition the state of Hawaii to release these records? Obviously this is not simply about citizenship. Stop reading Jerome Corsi and wake up.

[DRM]

Also, people do not 'confer' citizenship on their offspring. The government is the only entity that can confer and recognize citizenship. "Natural born citizen" is not defined in the Constitution. The 14th amendment references the principle of jus soli as a requisite of citizenship for persons born in the country.