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Limbaugh compares Obama's new healthcare logo to Nazi swastika


Godwin’s Law states that the longer a debate goes on, the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Hitler rises.  It seems the debate over healthcare is no exception.

Over the last few days, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) has repeatedly accused people at a recent protest against President Obama's healthcare reform of wearing swastikas and SS symbols -- a claim that was later bolstered by a series of photographs

"I think they’re AstroTurf, you be the judge," said Pelosi. "They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare."

Perennial Obama critic and conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh was quick to respond to the accusations, arguing today on his radio show that it was in fact the Democrats who were using Nazi symbolism to advance their agenda.  He cited a post on the conservative blog Sweetness & Light that compares Obama's new healthcare logo -- a combination of his campaign logo and the ancient Greek symbol of medicine -- to the Nazi swastika symbol.

“They accuse of us being Nazis, and Obama's got a healthcare logo that's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook,” said Limbaugh.

Limbaugh then proceeded to describe the ways Democrats are like Nazis -- a list that included their dedication to animal rights and their opposition to smoking and pollution.

Well, the Nazis were against big business -- they hated big business. And of course we all know that they were opposed to Jewish capitalism. They were insanely, irrationally against pollution. They were for two years mandatory voluntary service to Germany. They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working, one of which was the Autobahn. They were against cruelty and vivisection of animals, but in the radical sense of devaluing human life, they banned smoking. They were totally against that. They were for abortion and euthanasia of the undesirables, as we all know, and they were for cradle-to-grave nationalized healthcare.

What do you think? Is Obama's new healthcare logo really a symbolic reference to Nazism?

--Brendan Bigelow

Photo: The Nazi swastika, left, as it appeared at the Mauthausen death camp (credit: Simon Wiesenthal Center) compared to Obama's new healthcare logo, right.

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trying to rally his indignant listeners ,rush tries to paint this picture of obama as a hitler .... limpaugh touts with his self-serving narrow agenda , the oppressive advantages of out of control corporate governance.....the same people that butter rushes bread.....!

The White House symbol shown here is the caduceus (in the US, wrongly associated with medical practitioners, it should be the rod of Asclepius which has only one snake) suspended over a suggestion of the American flag. This symbol has been used by healers for about 2,500 years.

Mr. Limbaugh continues to prove his ignorance,


He is making fools of a lot of ignorant people.


Medical error is the third leading cause of death in the U.S.
45 years ago when I was in Boy scouts First Aid training I couldn't believe what they were teaching.
All of these have been proven to cause more damage than help.
Now they're saying Hormone treatment caused cancer, mamograms are causing more problems than helping, and the side effects on the drugs we are taking are insane.
Depression is a symptom, not a disease, and many of the medications may cause worse depression or suicide.
How many of us have herd, lets try this and see what happens, stop taking it if you have a bad reaction
(Like Suicide).
If you have spent any time in the Emergency ward it is obvious that drug reactions are common.
I thought the U.S. was about freedom of choice.
We're all going to die, I want to die from natural causes.

I don't know if the Swatika-Obamacare analogy holds, but I would think Obama's logo is the new swastika --- not in the sense of literal Nazism, but in the fact that Obama is DEFINITELY a fascist by every sense of that word. Actually, if you study history and the development of fascism --- the author of which was Mussolini --- there have been five fascist American presidents now. They live(d) and work(ed) under the cloak of the word "progressivism." They include Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR (of course), JFK (surprise! surprise!) and the Obamessiah.

And you thought they represented the Ameican people! Silly you!

The ressemblance is striking .The unmistakeable proof,however is the odious
obligation to buy insurance under penalty of fines and yes even jail time.This
democrat piece of legislation will no doubt lead to the worst excesses as were
prevalent under nazi rule with the likes of DR Mengele and others like him.

This posting insults all of our intelligence, and debases the level of national discourse. The only real similarity between the logo and the Nazi symbol is the bird's wings; Google "medical symbol" and you will see where these wings come from. Are all doctors therefore Nazis? I mean, it's laughable that I even have to explain this. Brendan, why do you think this kind of blatant smear is even worth wasting your (and my) time? Does it serve your purposes to keep this ignorant line of argument going?

Rush is 100% correct.......For some reason liberals can't see or hear facts, nor accept reality until it has them by the throat.

This is absolutely hilarious! I mean...Limbaugh...out of all people comparing others to Nazis...that's when you know this country is jacked up! Why is ANYONE listening to this guy? Seriously? He sounds more like Hitler then ANYONE in the U.S.! And all because of some logo? Don't get me wrong...I'm not in favor of how Obama/Clintons are trying to change medicare...but the absolute nerve of this Rush guy is astonishing!

Yes the nazis emblem kind of looks like an eagle, don't we use the bald eagle(see picture above),Yes the serpent and the eagle is for the medical field, but the Bald Eagle is on the back of every dollar. yes smoking is bad for you, so is pollutions, so is pit bull fighting.(we all seem to agree on that).well almost all. I don't really know what the Nazi's' views on healthcare were, but im guessing they had one. The nazis also tried to assisinate Hitler on more than 47 different occassions. There was also a failed government coup during his reign during WW2. If you're talking at the SS, I think they were most responsible for the bad things that happened under Hitlers rule. I don't think government healthcare was responsible for the Holocaust and both World Wars, I'm sorry. I think Rush tends to make too much of generaliztion to Nazis and Hitler. This is why Rush Limbaugh is pretty stupid. I guess every other industralized country is under the reign of a reincarnated Hitler because they all have Universal Healthcare and their healthcare is much better than ours.Rush I'm sure if on the Republican Insurance Lobbyist payroll.Oh yes and haven't we been up the Middle East's a@@ since the 70's. I'm starting to see some similiarties here. BTW that is not Obamas new healthcare logo. The eagle and serpend has been the symbol of the surgeon generals office for the past 30 years. Nice try Republicans.

Sorry Rush, but I do not think work programs ,kind of like the ones during the great depression caused the Holocaust either. I'd rather be working on the autobahn than starving or listening to you on the radio. BTW I think this is more of a government option to keep insurance companies in check, don't you?Big Business, no the democrats aren't against big business, just the big business that hikes up peoples interests rates causing them to loose their home or file forbankruptcy, or loose their medical coverage on a tehnicality.Be serious . Sound familiar? I'm not not saying the Democrats are innocent either, they're the ones that gave the companies the freedoms to do these things, (I'm sure under the great favor of a republican congress) but you can't count on people to do the right thing. (Republicans haven't reached the level to be human yet). We learned that the hard way. Oh Rush, if you don't like the logo please hire a new graphic design artist, just don't outsource it to Indonesia, at least hire an American to do it.

You've been taking too many pain killers again, RUSH, slow down.
Remember the ones that you said if people do they should be sent to jail for the rest of their lives.

Yes Eagles are cool, I guess the nazis liked them, also.

It is a stretch to see anything like a swastika in the logo, and not really important at this point to the growing problems we are facing. There are more important issues to debate. However, in regards to a "logo", from the begining, when Obama redesigned the logo on airforce 1, by taking off the American flag and replaced it with what would appear to be just the stripes, symbolizes the removal of the states (stars). His arrogant, self serving actions there should have spoken volumns to where this nation was being led.

obama is black, the nazi party didn't just kill jews, they killed gays, mentally retarded people and blacks. Why would the president be a neo nazi if the nazis killed people of his own race?

the wings i recognize them as the universal logo of health....with the snake and all

Rush the Limbaugh is not the brightest twinkie. Drawing parallels between Hitler and Obama is pretty lame and cheap. It's a shame his intelligence isn't as high as his rage.

Dope Head Rush Limbaugh has no shame who bught his way out of Jail?

(CBS/AP) Rush Limbaugh and prosecutors in the long-running prescription fraud case against him have reached a deal calling for the only charge against the conservative commentator to be dropped without a guilty plea if he continues treatment, his attorney said Friday.

Limbaugh turned himself in to authorities on a warrant filed Friday charging him with fraud to conceal information to obtain prescriptions, said Teri Barbera, a spokeswoman for the Palm Beach County Jail. He and his attorney Roy Black left about an hour later, after Limbaugh was photographed and fingerprinted and he posted $3,000 bail, Barbera said.

Prosecutors' three-year investigation of Limbaugh began after he publicly acknowledged being addicted to pain medication and entered a rehabilitation program. They accused Limbaugh of "doctor shopping," or illegally deceiving multiple doctors to receive overlapping prescriptions, after learning that he received about 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors in six months, at a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.

Limbaugh, who pleaded not guilty Friday, has steadfastly denied doctor shopping. Black said the charge will be dismissed in 18 months if Limbaugh complies with court guidelines.

"Mr. Limbaugh and I have maintained from the start that there was no doctor shopping, and we continue to hold this position," Black said in an e-mailed statement.

Limbaugh spokesman Tony Knight said the commentator signed the agreement Thursday, and that it called for him to enter the not guilty plea. "It's not in the system moving toward trial. It was all a formality. It's a concluded deal," Knight said.

Limbaugh has a huge audience -- 14 to 20 million people listen to his show every week, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for the state attorney's office, said prosecutors had not yet received the signed agreement.

"I am not disputing the facts, the conditions that Black represented, but until his client signed the agreement, we don't have a full agreement," Edmondson said. "I am sure it's just a timeline issue."

He refused to comment further.

As a primary condition of the dismissal, Limbaugh must continue to seek treatment from the doctor he has seen for the past 2½ years, Black said. Among other provisions, he also has agreed to pay the state $30,000 to defray its investigative costs, Black said.

The warrant alleges that sometime between February and August 2003, Limbaugh withheld information from a medical practitioner from whom he sought to obtain a controlled substance or a prescription for a controlled substance.

Prosecutors began investigating Limbaugh in 2003 after the National Enquirer reported his housekeeper's allegations that he had abused OxyContin and other painkillers. He soon took a five-week leave from his radio show to enter a rehabilitation program and acknowledged he had become addicted to pain medication. He blamed it on severe back pain.

Before his own problems became public, Limbaugh had decried drug use and abuse and mocked President Clinton for saying he had not inhaled when he tried marijuana. He often made the case that drug crimes deserve punishment.

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.

Prosecutors seized Limbaugh's medical records after learning about the painkillers he had received at the Palm Beach pharmacy. The investigation was held up as the prosecutors and Black battled in court over whether the records were properly seized.

Limbaugh reported five years ago that he had lost most of his hearing because of an autoimmune inner-ear disease. He had surgery to have an electronic device placed in his skull to restore his hearing. But research shows that abusing opiate-based painkillers also can cause profound hearing loss.

In 2003, Limbaugh said he started taking painkillers "some years ago" after a doctor prescribed them following a spinal surgery. His back pain stemming from the surgery persisted, so Limbaugh said he started taking pills and became hooked.

"Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so," Limbaugh said at the time. "I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps."

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