Hawaii tries again to snuff Barack Obama birth certificate controversy

Well, surely this will settle finally once and for all that Barack Hussein Obama was really, actually and factually born in the United States and, therefore, is fully qualified according to the U.S. Constitution to be the president that he has been since he took the oath of office on Jan. 20 and a second time shortly after, just to make sure.

Not!

In yet another quite possibly futile attempt to silence the zombie birther controversy that won't die, the director of Hawaii's State Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has just repeated her statement from October that she has personally and with her very own official eyes seen the "original vital records" regarding Obama's birth in Honolulu's Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.

At Monday's White House briefing, press secretary Robert Gibbs also sought to dismiss the issue as "fictional nonsense," suggesting the so-called birthers would never be happy with any evidence.

Nevermind that Obama might have been born on Mars for all anyone cares. The stubborn story of the refusal of many to stop questioning his birthplace as American and....

...therefore, to challenge his presidential legitimacy has become in itself an intriguing, if legally moot, tale.

Various courts have ruled in Obama's favor on the issue or refused even to consider it. (Aha, so maybe they are all part of a Kenyan socialist conspiracy?)

Hawaii's Republican governor is reported to believe Obama is a natural-born American. No one has produced solid conflicting documents that he wasn't born in the U.S.

The Obama campaign released an official state certificate of birth, which The Ticket published here months ago. Hawaii says it's authentic. Critics point out accurately it's not an official birth certificate. They claim the type font is newer than the date. Wonder where the doctor's signature is? And the infant's footprints?

But here's the real catch: Hawaii state law happens to forbid release of original birth records to anyone without a tangible interest in those records.

And, so far, the tangible interest of any of the so-called "birthers" including even Alan Keyes here or the famous singer Pat Boone over here has yet to be proven. So the original documents remain transparently secreted in Hawaii while the story strangely simmers all over.

Wait! Unless, as a certain CNN celebrity commentator stubbornly suggests (despite his boss' own suggestion that the guy drop the stupid issue as dead), those historical documents were mysteriously destroyed somehow. Perhaps during computerization of state government documents. Or perhaps as part.....

But then, what is it state health director Fukino claims she looked at? And why exactly were Obama's documents destroyed? What were they hiding?

How did the Obama kid and his late mother ever get his U.S. passport without an actual certified birth certificate like everyone else has to produce? So they could travel to and live in Indonesia all those years ago? What about the report that some African relative recalls Obama being born in Kenya?

And, by the way, where was Lou Dobbs born?

The answer, according to legend, is that the often-outraged TV talker was born in the sparsely populated north Texas county of Childress, the son of two illegal immigrants. No, just kidding about the parent part because LD has made such a big deal out of illegal immigrants from Mexico. According to the little-known story, Dobbs' father Frank was a propane dealer, his mother Lydia Mae a bookkeeper.

What is not so well-known is that the county is named for George Campbell Childress. The very one.

And do you know who GCC was? He was the author of the Republic of Texas' Declaration of Independence from Mexico. The subversive (to Gen. Santa Anna) declaration was adopted on March 2, 1836. That precise date just happens to be almost exactly 109 years, six months and roughly three weeks before the birth of the conspiracist commentator who rails against illegal Mexican immigrants.

Coincidence?

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Comments

[Andrea]

Why don't they just show Obama's original birth certificate and put these stories to rest?

[train wreck coming]

the birth certificate hunt is a distraction.

Which type of citizen is Barack Hussein Obama (assuming Obama's own statements are correct )

A. Naturalized Citizen ( foreigner who legally obtains US citizenship )

B. Native Born Citizen ( person born on US soil from at least one foreign parent )

C. Natural Born Citizen ( person born on US soil from a US citizen mother AND A US CITIZEN FATHER )

answer is B. according to BHO, he is a native born citizen but not a Natural Born Citizen as the office of the presidency requires.

Eventually everyone is going to come to this realization and the effect is going to be devastating

[dave]

How can Hawaii say or imply that noone has a 'tangible interest' in seeing Obama's birth certificate? Afterall, he is the president of the United States, and our United States constitution demands that all elected officers are proven to be eligible. Only natural born citizens can be presidents.

Simply because an alleged report comes out that his birth certificate exists, does not PROVE he is a citizen.

All he has to do is show the birth certificate. Why is it so difficult if Hawaii claims they have - why not release it?

[Mud]

It is a shame that the media frame this issue wrong, and attack anyone who sides against the president.

The issue is not whether Obama is a citizen, it is, why won't he release the long form of his birth certificate?

Sure there are crazy people who would not be happy with any evidence that Obama is a citizen, but there are plenty of rational people whose only issue is Obama's lack of transparency. These people would be very happy if he released this document.

[Dan]

Tangible interest doesn't mean that the birth certificate cannot be released. It means that it can only be released to Obama, his wife, his immediate family, or his family lawyer. I am not a "birther", but I am curious as to why this has gone on so long. Why does Obama fight lawsuits and such when producing the official birth certificate is within his power and will immediately silence these critics?

[it is a concern]

why do they keep the original documents a secret if it is all legit?

[Cris Ericson]

Hawaii's State Department of Health Official, Dr. Chiyome Fukimo, has a great future on Wall Street selling crap to people who don't demand to see the material facts.

[Cris Ericson]

http://crisericson2010.blogspot.com
Photos of Laws PROVING REASONABLE DOUBT!

Hawaii's State Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has probably also verified seeing the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus!

[dennis]

Note to author - IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN. The birth certificate is just the distraction issue. To be eligible for President he must be a Natural Born Citizen, not just a citizen. The requirements as such were that BOTH his parents were citizens when he was born. Were they?? No they weren't. Ignoring the dubious dates re his mother's citizenship, Obama ADMITS his father was a British citizen. Possible allegiance to another nation is exactly why the founding fathers added the requirement of Natural Born Citizen - to avoid it happening.

Perhaps you will ask Gibbs about THAT??

[Mike Cash]

I do sincerely wish Google News would learn to tell the difference between news and editorials. But as so few Americans evidence any ability to make the distinction themselves I suppose that there's little point in fixing the portal not to lead me to pages like this.

[Lloyd Revalee]

I have a copy of a birth certificate containing the name of Barak Obama on my computer. The only question that I have, is why did they black out the seriial number in the upper right hand corner of the document? Could it be that the number on the document issued did not agree with the numbers listed at the time of his birth.

[Kevin Paulk]

I think the birthers are, to state it kindly, extremely misguided, and the volume of their conspiracy cries threatens to do real harm to more legitimate protests of the leftward lunge by the president and Congress.

But, if the White House were serious about quelling the controversy, it would tell Hawaii officials to release the actual birth certificate. Until that happens, even those who believe the birthers are nuts will begin to wonder if that little piece of paper contains something worth hiding.

[MissButterfly]

I think BO was born in Hawaii and is ideed an American citizen, but I'm still wondering why he had his birth certificate sealed when he visited his dying grandmother right before the election.
My birth certificate shows my mother's religion and marital status. Maybe since his mother was married to a Muslim, BOs mother listed her religion as Muslim? Or maybe she WASN'T married to a Muslim and BO is illegitimate?
Or maybe BO was just trying to stir up the conspiracy theorists. GWB had the "truthers" and BO has the "birthers"!

[Robin B]

FTA: "...the director of Hawaii's State Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has just repeated her statement from October that she has personally and with her very own official eyes seen the "original vital records" regarding Obama's birth..."

So why can't the American public see it, too?

[He11razor]

Certificate controversy? There is no controversy. Does anyone really think a black man in America can just willy nilly walk up to the presidency without a thousand people poring over every little detail? Birthers are just sore losers.

[Whomper]

From the story: "Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has just repeated her statement from October that she has personally and with her very own official eyes seen the "original vital records" regarding Obama's birth in Honolulu's Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on Aug. 4, 1961"

Actually, Dr. Fukino didn't mention the hospital by name. That little tidbit was inserted by the writer. So now we have the writer of the story providing cover to the only person saying they've seen the certificate.

The entire issue can be resolved by Obama authorizing Hawaii to release the birth certificate to the media. And while he's at it, Obama can also make public all his college transcripts, his passport travel history, his Selective Service registration documents, his medical records, etc.

Then he can explain how he was able to visit Pakistan in 1981, when American citizens weren't allowed to go there. Next he can enlighten everyone as to who paid for his college education.

WHY IS OBAMA KEEPING SO MUCH OF HIS PAST SECRET?

[Robin B]

You gotta love how liberals come up with catchy derogatory names to describe the opposition: teabaggers, birthers, zombies...

Ridicule and demean the opposition.

"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." - Saul Alinsky, from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

[Michelle]

What if she's not telling the truth? Or are we to believe that people with titles always tell the truth. One way to know for sure - publicize the birth certificate that she claims to have seen. Most birthers, including myself, are perfectly open to the possibiity that he was born in HI. We just think respect for the Constitution demands that people publicly prove it. Show the birth certificate!

[mantis]

It seems Jon Klein of CNN misread a report by the Star Tribune when Hawaii DOH spokesperson explained that Hawaii went paperless in 2001. She didn't say the original records were destroyed, but I guess Klein read it that way, and passed it off in an email, then repeated by Dobbs. Way to check your facts CNN!

[lee]

Obama, you need show the ORIGINAL one !
Why you refuse to show the origial birth certificate??because you are hiding something, as simple as that !!!!!

!!!!!!! But you cannot hide it forever!!!!!!

[Orion]

It dies (probably) when Obama calls Hawaii and tells them to release his original long-form birth certificate. Since Rathergate no one really trusts non-original forms posted online and to date Obama has never said why he's refusing to release the original. That feeds the fire, not puts it out.

Efforts by others to resolve this aren't helpful and at least somewhat make it look more like he has something to hide. Obama and only Obama can settle this, and with just a phonecall.

[OldGaDawg]

When the U.S Supreme Court and Legal Professionals have seen with there own eyes and can form a independent judgment of ALL DOCUMENTS that Mr. Obama should have all ready provided long before now. Without having paid legal personnel to secretly keep this critical information of showing as to having the needed qualifications to be seated as our Commander and Chief.
Mr. Obama " Where's the necessary documents such as your birth certificate and etc.?"

[james]

just show the records that Dr. Chiyome Fukinohe has.

what is obama hidding ?

[Sola Fidelity]

Hawaii's Republican governor is reported to believe Obama is a natural-born American. No one has produced solid conflicting documents that he wasn't born in the U.S.
LOL, are you kidding me? The burden of proof lies with the one asserting the positive. No one can prove a universal negative, PHL 101.

Undocumented Alien: Sir, please issue me a Social Security Number
Social Security office clerk: Do you have documents proving you are a US Citizen?
Undocumented Alien: No one has produced solid conflicting documents that I wasn't born in the U.S.
Andrew Malcolm: Good enough for me!

[Marie Devine]

"Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a “natural-born American citizen.” Natural-born requires two American citizens to be parents. Frank Marshall Davis is American and if the father as earlier stated from a former Hawaii lawsuit won by Andy Martin, he would be a natural born citizen.

That would make his birth certificate that he has shown on the internet to be a fraud as was reported. He was adopted by Lolo Soetoro an Indonesian citizen and lived there about seven years before returning to live with his grandmother while he attended school. His parents were still Indonesian citizens and divorce papers show he was still receiving help with education from his step-father. That makes him ineligible to be president, having dual citizenship at best.

His Selective Service Registration shows many irregularities apparently showing he caused it to be fabricated because at 18 years old he was not a US citizen and did not have to register. When he needed an sss registration for the campaign, evidence shows he had help producing one. Details are at http://obama-birth-cert-forged-sss-impeach.blogspot.com and http://www.divine-way.com/forgery_evidences_sss_reg_colb_birth_cert_for_obama_impeachment.html

Barack Obama deceived voters to gain control of the US government and must be removed along with any he appointed. His policy decisions must be abandoned. If our laws have been corrupted and ineffective leaders in control, then we will be no better off than other nations that had to riot for change. BE AWARE: GUNS WILL MAKE US LOSE CONTROL; IT GIVES THE PRESIDENT AND MILITARY CONTROL OVER US. Prayer and words of truth will overcome lies and deception. It is the promise of God in all holy books.