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Bill Clinton at Obama White House: The two first black presidents meet

April 21, 2009 |  7:27 am

Former President Bill Clinton hosts Democratical presidential candidate Barack Obama at his Harlem office on Sept. 11, 2008

Former President Bill Clinton visits the Obama White House today, the first meeting of the two in the Oval Office since Barack Obama took office.

Once called the nation's first black president -- so dubbed by author Toni Morrison because of his obvious affection for and affinity with African-Americans -- Clinton lost the title last year. Twice.

First, he injected himself into wife Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, disparaging Barack Obama's impressive win in South Carolina by likening it to victories in that state in 1984 and 1988 by the Rev. Jesse Jackson. The subtext: a compelling black candidate can win in a state with lots of black voters but can't win a national contest. That angered a lot of black voters who once flocked to Hillary's campaign out of loyalty to her husband.

Secondly, of course, Obama won the election, beating Hillary in the primaries and handily defeating Republican John McCain in November.

Today the two meet in the Oval Office before President Obama signs the Edward M. Kennedy National Service Act into law at the SEED School in Washington.

The bill expands the legacy of President John F. Kennedy in launching the Peace Corps, a program that gives American volunteers an opportunity to help people in other countries, and of President Clinton in creating the "domestic Peace Corps" known as AmericaCorps. Under the new law, the cadre of government-backed volunteers could grow from 75,000 to 250,000 annually.

Aside from the encounter of the two first black presidents -- which the White House insists is more of a get-together than a meeting -- the event also promises another kind of drama.

Clinton  reportedly was furious when Kennedy broke with official Democratic orthodoxy -- which held that Hillary Clinton was the inevitable candidate -- and became an early backer of  Obama in  last year's grueling primary contests, more or less anointing him with the Camelot mantle.

Now, with Kennedy battling brain cancer, Clinton will have to rise to the occasion and bury the hatchet.

Check out the body language. The event's at 1 p.m. Pacific.

-- Johanna Neuman

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I think you can see that Obama really loves Bill, as he should, and that Bill has to respect Obama's political decisiveness, despite what could perhaps be seen as his disloyalty. Obama knows that Bill is the master of successful moderate reform. Their meeting can only be a good thing. :^)

Bill Fired 93 US Attorneys Is He Gonna Give OBama Some Tips?
US Attorneys are appointed by the President and serve at his discretion. Bill Clinton proved this most recently when he fired 93 of them upon entering the White House. We should actually be lauding President Bush for not firing the previous appointees, appointing those he chose to and in the end again only firing 8. 93 vs. 8 is what we are talking about and SHAME on the Dem's for making a stink out of this instead actually doing something productive while this country is at war.
How many will Obama fire? How can he do all he wants and stil turn math on its head to make Bush's 8 seem like a crime in comparison?

Obama Don't Listen To Bill!!!!!!!!!
Every Time He Talks, Remember these Clinton Fiascos!

Waco.
Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy In the Military.
No Universal Health Coverage.
Disabling The FBI and CIA.
Oklahoma City Bombing.
700,000 Rwandan Deaths
Sudan Cruise Missle Attack on a milk factory
Adultery Scandals
Bombing The Chinese Embassy In Belgrade
Kosovo Bombing
Solving Europes Kosovo Problem
The V Chip
$200 Haircut Shuts Down 2 LAX Runways.
DNC Donors Given Lincoln Bedroom Stays.
Lies To Federal Judge On Lewinsky Affair.
Firing Of 93 Federal Prosecutors.
Monica Lewinsky.
Impeachment.
Bombing of the US Stark By Islamists - toothless response.
Bombing Of 2 US Embassies In Africa By Osama Bin Ladin - toothless response.
No credible pursuit of Osama Bin Ladin for 6 Years.
US Soldiers Dragged Thru The Streets In Mogadishu.
Slashing CIA Budget While Al Quaeda Was Plotting.
1998 CIA Plan To Get Bin Ladin Hobbled By Clinton. Authorizing Kidnap Not Death. Plan Aborted.

I know Bill Clinton has done many "good" things for minorities and the like. However, I don't care how much jazz he plays or hang out with minorities, he will never be black. He displayed his "true" color by his comments/actions during and after the nomination/primaries/election. Why does conversations result in racial context? We are a racial nation. Mr. President and Mrs. Obama are the most educated couple to don the White House. So, in your subtitle, there are no two black presidents. I can imitate someone or something, but that is not quantitative of my true essence.

RE:
Bill Clinton at Obama White House: The two first black presidents meet

(Former President Bill Clinton visits the Obama White House today, the first meeting of the two in the Oval Office since Barack Obama took office.)
-----------------
FROM
The author
of this book entitled
"BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"

AND THE:

LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON

Montreal, March 22, 1995

President William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
U.S.A.

Mister President:

Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.

Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the "Uphold Democracy" operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.

Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.

With underdeveloped tools — a camera and a few films — I have tried, in order to serve my country’s cause, to demystify the word “light” and denounce Newton’s Theory of Colors.

With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I have written the enclosed book entitled "Haiti, Let There Be Light!" I hope that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy, especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to Haiti.

May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, "Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit!", which questions Newton’s Theory of Colors. I did not do so, because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.

Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version of my book, I contented myself with dreaming — dreaming that on one of your first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading "Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit!" I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that work in its English version, which is now in preparation — typed by a sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called missing matter, darkness in space, "black holes" — in a word: the invisible mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan’s research on Exobiology and the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled "Black Holes and Martian Valleys", which contained the following passage:

"A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself lugging his slide box into the Vice President’s big new house and, after coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the heavens.

"Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White House since Thomas Jefferson.

"Nixon could not run a tape recorder.

"Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.

"Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of “Black Holes” and the speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe together."

"Well," you exclaimed, "O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between 'Star Peace' and 'Star War'. As to the former President’s inclination toward Einstein’s physics and/or Planck’s Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the 'Tunnel Effect', the way that energy escapes from black holes".

"Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes me think about Aristide — both of them are well at ease in both the Western world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet’s tail. If Aristide is considered as a 'Black Sun', then the Haitians are 'space refugees'.

"Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy… the exodus of the Boat People… with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or Carter, it doesn’t seem that a solution will be found tomorrow…

"What business did the Haitians have in that 'boat'?

"Say, there above, the Black Twin! Is it still broad daylight in the shadow of the 'Black Sun'?

"Oh God," you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: "Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux! Let there be light! Que la lumière soit! Black Holes, Black Sun, Tunnel effect, Aristide effect, Boat people, Space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy Carter… six of one and half a dozen of the other."

There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.

Bill a ri
Bill laughed

Hillary a ri
Hillary laughed

Chelsea a ri aussi
Chelsea laughed too

Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! be the "dark matter", arguing in favor of the development of the Black world — visible and invisible!

In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.

In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE, propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like black holes. A " Mini Black Hole " of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.

What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!

Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird — contracted and unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed inside the infinitely small: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!”

This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton’s Theory of Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti: a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope, with its camera.

"… Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain."

"Dr. Harms said the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points 60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates colours in sunlight." (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)

Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe, where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.

I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President, like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me, allowing me to express myself.

Your trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as well as in the life of the Haitian people.

Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of
the "Star Peace".

Lucien Bonnet
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
PLEASE SEE "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
-----------------------------------
LETTER TO PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
Laval, Canada, APRIL 18, 2009

MISTER PRESIDENT:

We must feel strong, because You did a great JOB to face U.S.’s Latin American Critics ,
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

AS GOD BLESS YOU and BLESS THE WHOLE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !

WHILE THE WHOLE WORLD HAS IT EYES ON YOU. ON YOUR PEOPLE AND YOUR FAMILY !

Everyone congratulates You to have been democratically elected and took the oath of office
in January 2009 and see that something happen in America.

Why The Obama Administration is so important for the American People and abroad ?

- Because: 'It is in adversity', I was going to say in 'darkness', that one recognizes true friends.

"That we are in the midst of crisis is now well understood. Our nation is at war, against
a far-reaching network of violence and hatred. Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence
of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices
and prepare the nation for a new age." (FROM The Text of President Obama's inaugural address)

Because "The people of the Caribbean, the peoples of the world have become fed up with the policies
of United States of America, [which] treated the rest of the world as if it did not exist,''
said Denzil Douglas, prime minister of St. Kitts and Nevis.

Because ''We have seen a totally different approach from this new administration.'' Douglas said.
"There has to be dialogue, there has to be consensus, there has to be the need for people's interest
be taken into consideration as the United States plans its own foreign policy and domestic policy.''

Because, "Energy of the Sixties tested, confronted by Today's Energy crisis", what does Science
hold for us in this field at the crossroad of the third millennium?

Each of us should express solidarity, according to his means.

My contribution, apparently futuristic, refers, Mister President, to an inexhaustible source of energy,
which one should tame now.

In a book with limited publication, translated in English for the needs of the cause,
entitled 'BILL A RI And There Was Light', addressed during his last American election campaign
to President Bill Clinton who acknowledged having received it, I dared to tackle this subject.

It's like to say to you, President Obama, that in the exceptional circumstances in which we live today
- in the point of view of energy - no exploration in the mid or long term, by the American expertise,
of an additional source of energy, at the same time safe and profitable, should not be ruled out.

There is no witchcraft at all involved in all that, Mister President. In spite of my Haitian ascent
and my carefully phrased remarks. It is undoubtedly so when a taboo should be broken through.
A taboo of magnitude, Sir, I admit it. A 'scientific' taboo, seldom encountered.

'The taboo arises as a negative categorical imperative,' affirms Roger Caillois.

It is not saying little. Especially when it is a question of adequately correcting
the theory of Newton on light and colors.

However, at the dawn of the twenty first century, to denounce this taboo, to reverse it,
should I say what an asset!

Moreover, at the same time the multiple taboos grow blurred which surround another phenomenon
of the highest scientific range, the well known phenomenon under the abusive name of 'Black Holes',
synthesis of light and colors. Indeed Newton, in good faith undoubtedly in his time, really reversed
the interpretation of the phenomenon of light. He took the part for the whole! So much and so well
that today like yesterday, the visible appears so much more tempting.

Physicists say it: 'ninety to ninety nine percent of the matter of the universe (Grosso Modo -
said here roughly by Lucien BONNET - for more precisions see "LINKS" or "GOOGLE")
is made up of a dark matter, invisible, which generates, propels and surrounds the visible,
like the sea surrounds the continents'. Scientists such as Stephen Hawking affirm it.
The Hubble Telescope confirms it. But theoretical Optics is stagnant.

My intervention, here, President Obama, would mean that. It is possible to use another form of energy.
By decoding the Black Matter. Without a play on words. Theoretically initially. While 'returning the
elevator to Newton' - without a play on words. By the Act which consists in making an
AMENDMENT TO THE LAW OF NEWTON ON LIGHT AND COLORS.

Presently, why should we take the result instead of the cause?

- Objectively and in a pragmatic way, how not focusing on the new synthesis?

Consequently, what a liberation!

At the threshold of the third millennium, let light live, invisible by synthesis, visible by analysis!

'Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird, the rhythm of the universe's heartbeat,
tamed inside the infinitely small having mass. Successively contracted and deployed. In the benefit of humanity.'

One small step for Man, one giant leap for Mankind - I also said myself - in 'BILL A RI and there was light! '

Unfortunate, yes, but how much a convenient Energy crisis if I dare say which invites us to explore other avenues,
other concepts and, therefore, other resources so far neglected.

Invitation to go from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. Taking advantage of the sequence
of colorless and colored luminous speeds. In order to better understand the Universe.
Where Law and Order prevail. Just like in Democracy!

Energetic formula with a unique character!

In the name of Science and Technology, vapor is being reverse!

A winning formula!

In The United States of America.

By The United States of America.

For The United States Of America and abroad!

With you today, President Obama, I repeat this sentence - since 1972 and 1978
- that is to say forty years old, but always, in my opinion, carrying the same message
that I wish more and more positive for the years to come, in the third millennium,
as I said since 1972 and on April 10, 1978, in a Letter to Doctor Carl Sagan:

'On the cosmic scale as on the terrestrial scale, darkness or blackness forms an integral
- sine qua non part - of color and light process'.

Is it still broad daylight
In the shadow of the Black Sun?

Lucien BONNET
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

PLEASE SEE: (The CERN Large Hadron Collider)

RE : Lucien Bonnet - (His interest led him to carry out research on Western concepts
related to the study of color - by the way of Newton’s Theory of Colors - as following):

Newton’s Theory of Colors !

First of all, what is Newton’s Theory of Colors?

Let me remind readers that the concept of “color” that stems from scientific experimentation
is based on the demonstration in 1665 by the well-known scientist Isaac Newton.

This experiment consists in running a visible light ray called “white light”
through a prism in a dark room, breaking down that light into a continuous
spectrum encompassing all the colors.

Newton thought he had there by proven that white light is broken down by the
prism into a series of seven refracted rays which produced the colors from
red to violet on the screen on which they are projected. He therefore
concluded that white light contains various lights, each one of which is
darker than the white light itself and each of which is part of the whole.
And the darkest of all (real blackness), according to Newton, is simply an
absence of light.

My point of view, which is shared by many scientists, is that when the dark
room, which is actually black, is penetrated by the “visible light ray”, it
turns into an area with a mixture of darkness and white light, so that it is
no longer a “dark room”. This is the origin of “Newton’s error”, which is
the result of an incorrect observation.

In other words, the basic elements of his experiment are not what he thought
they were: in the course of the experiment, we are actually dealing with a
quasi-dark or quasi-white room. Consequently, the prism in that quasi-dark
room reflects the real situation; that is to say, the prism itself is
already under the influence of this mixture of white light and darkness.
That fact escaped Newton’s notice.

In fact, the prism in the dark room where the experiment was carried out
receives darkness from one angle and a beam of white light from the other.
The prism thereby puts these two elements into action. The incident light
ray is transformed, softened under the effect of the surrounding shade.
Acting as a wave mixer, the prism integrates the white light and the
darkness. It synthesizes them in vitro based on a given degree in the
well-known “Gray scale” used in photography and color television. Under the
effect of the incident ray, which acts like a projector, the refracted, very
subtle gray ray passes through the prism. The continuous spectrum of all the
colors is formed in a quasi-dark room on a quasi-white screen, given that
the spectrum was born of both white light and darkness.

We therefore find that the continuous color scale, as we know it, is
constituted by the breaking down, not of white light, but a mixture of white
light and darkness - that is, of “gray”. As the German scholar Johann
Wolfgang von Goethe wrote: “This is the proof of the existence of the law
where by light is nothing else than a mixture of light and darkness, to
different degrees.” [our translation] Thus, Newton’s theory of colors proves
to be completely false.

Nevertheless, the techniques used in industries dealing with photography,
cinematography and television are still based on that erroneous theory.

In photography, laboratories are quick to discover in their work that the
sum of the colors of the spectrum is gray, not white. That is why they are
compelled to introduce the black color to obtain the white. There you have a
demonstration in reverse that black is an integral part of light and color
processes. Remember that this fact completely escaped Newton’s notice.
Unfortunately, even though, in their use and application of the color scale,
photo labs notice Newton’s error and correct it in practice, they still do
not make the error more widely known.

Why ?

Some people might say that big industries using color processes - printing,
photography, movies, television and even microprocessors - keep to that
erroneous theory for the sake of major financial interests, especially
concerning patents and trade secrets. In addition, certain anti-Black
prejudices, deeply rooted in Western culture as well as in the field of
optics, have to be taken into account at this “phase of rest and almost
stagnation, rather than theoretical progress”.

It is then up to the scientific world today - researchers, university
professors, etc. - to overcome such hindrances and correct Newton’s theory,
in order to free the way for progress.

Lucien Bonnet

Article published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir on April 15, 1986.
The author of the article, aHaitian-born Montrealer, has made a movie entitled
”Where are you Headed, Haiti?” and makes mention of that concept :
The incorrect observation in the experiment by Newton and the origin of “Newton’s error”.

— Lucien BONNET
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

I am so endlessly tired of of the mischaracterization of Bill Clinton's remarks during his wife's campaign. First of all, how can you accuse him of disparaging Barack Obama's win in South Carolina when he made the remark BEFORE he won, not after? Secondly, he made the remark in response to a long series of questions from a reporter, which basically was an inquiry as to why the race in South Carolina seemed to be so difficult for her. The truth, whether people like it or not, is that when black voters have a strong white candidate and a strong black candidate, they have historically chosen the black candidate- as well they should have. I am very tired of the implication that a black voter considering race as a factor when they vote is somehow the same thing a a white person doing it. It is not. When people are under-represented in our government, electing those people is a valid consideration. There is nothing racist about acknowledging that and frankly, I think an opponent ought to be able to say, "Look, they aren't going to vote for me. It's okay, I get it."
Anyone who has ever worked on a campaign knows exactly what Barack Obama's campaign plan said in it. In the demographic breakdown, it said black voters would be his core supporters. Hillary's campaign, on the other hand, knew she would probably struggle with black voters. Don't believe me? Go re-read that leaked strategy memo by Mark Penn that she didn't go for. It clearly said to try to contest the black vote. In other words, you will struggle to get these voters but you have to try anyway. Campaigns always break down demographics this way. It is not unique to either of their campaigns. They try to figure out who will vote for them and focus on getting those core voters and getting the voters who are considered persuadable.
When a candidate knows they can't win a particular election for one reason or another (oh, such as demographics don't consist of people they consider to be their core supporters), they often try to downplay the expectations and create a context for their upcoming loss. Does it always work? No. Remember Guiliani trying to convince people he just wasn't going to win anything until Florida but that his campaign would be on the upswing after that?
Bill Clinton wasn't trying to say white voters won't vote for Obama. IOWA voted for him. So did many, many New Hampshire voters. Why would he say that? It doesn't make any sense. And it wouldn't help his wife's campaign to say it. But to try to downplay the expectations that his wife should be able to win in South Carolina to a reporter who was basically asking him why she was having such a tough time? Now that makes sense. His point, AGAIN, was NOT that Obama couldn't win white voters. He already knew Obama could do that. His point was that his wife would probably not do very well with black voters.
If certain people hadn't been so determined to inject race into that campaign, it wouldn't have been very hard to see that particular truth.

Bill Clinton is as white as you can get. The reference to 2 black presidents is a slap to Pres Obama. He is the first and only black President so far and should be recognized for his accomplishments and not his race. And if you insist on referring to his race, he shoul dbe given the proper reference...Our FIRST black President. And certainly not compared to Bill Clinton who has the morals of an alley cat.

The article covers alot of ground and wanders into many areas. But he TITLE has to go.

It may help get attention to the article and newspaper. But if you are really interested WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES!

America currently has, and has had only one "BLACK PRESIDENT"!

Sorry for the "Breaking News", no matter what Ms. Morrison has said, and with all due respect.


I don't know about other Dems, but I became sick of seeing Billary's fool face long ago.
They guy just refuses to get the hint. We're moving away from the Center and closer to the Left where we belong.

Get lost, Bill. Take your wifey with you.

Hillary Clinton earned more Votes than any Presidental Primary candidate in the history of America.

THis is so stupid. Clinton was saying that a win in SC doesn't really mean anything. It HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE! The primary is over-- Obama won. You don't have to repeat these stupid lies anymore.

I must say the title for this article was a dumb idea; however I don't see why people are trashing former President Clinton because of it. The facts: President Clinton was given this as an honorary title from an African American (he didn't just one day say, "I think I'll call myself the nation's first African American Pres"

Of course we all know Obama is the first African American President, no one is disagreeing. I also don't think it's cool to bring back up the bad blood from the primary.

As long as some on here are going to trash the Clintons, lets revisit a few facts. I really didn't want to do this, because I like and respect Obama, but I also like and respect the Clintons, and this article and most comments are pro-Obama and anti-Clinton...

The facts:

MSNBC and other media outlets gave candidate Obama every pass possible while grilling Hillary (and Bill) on a daily basis.

The liberal base of the party united behind Obama because he was the more liberal candidate. Once Obama clinched the nomination, he took on many Hillary like positions to move closer to the center (as she was closer to the center) because the general electorate is around the center (be it center left or center right) and he knew the liberal base was not going to elect him.

There was a clear gender card being played, which no one ever talked about. I saw it, and I am a male...

Look at the flip flops Oprah did. In 2007 she said she supported Hillary (one of her first supporters), as soon as Obama entered, she switched...Congressman John Lewis was a Hillary supporter, but because many of his African American constituents called him and basically threatend him to switch his support, he caved in and switched to Obama...This was the start of the, "super delegate tide turning"

I could go on, but its destructive, and I don't want that.

Just stop picking fights within our own party!!

First of all Barack Obama is the first MIXED race preident. He is not 100% black. He is Mulatto which is a term used to describe a person with one white parent and one black parent, or a person whose ancestry is a mixture of black and white.[



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