Alan Keyes stokes Obama birth certificate controversy
The controversy over the validity of Barack Obama's birth certificate is back on a burner with firebrand conservative Alan Keyes making serious new charges.
In a video (see below) released Friday, Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 U.S. Senate race in Illinois that launched the new president's national political career, calls Obama a communist and usurper and says he refuses to acknowledge the validity of Obama's inauguration over lingering questions in the minds of many conspiracists about the 44th president's birthplace.
The U.S. Constitution requires any president be born an American citizen.
In June, the Obama campaign released to The Ticket a copy of the then-senator's Hawaiian birth certificate (see the jump below and also here). But stubbornly persistent critics demand to see the original, which the state has refused to provide, citing personal privacy reasons.
And the critics, including Keyes explaining here, cite Obama relatives in Kenya as saying he was actually born there in his father's native land when his American mother was too young to pass on her U.S. citizenship.
In December, as The Ticket reported here, the Supreme Court dismissed without comment a New Jersey lawsuit seeking to bar Obama's inauguration due to questions over his actual citizenship. The Obama camp has proceeded normally as if there was no controversy.
Obviously, the inauguration proceeded, although on the advice of White House counsel as a precaution against a verbal muff during the noontime Jan. 20 public ceremony, Obama did take the presidential oath again that night in private with Chief Justice John Roberts. His White House lawyer feared igniting another simmering legal controversy if there was any doubt about the oath's validity, although the Constitution stipulates the new president takes office at noon no matter what.
However, the dispute over his birthplace continues. Listen here to Keyes' rather strong language.
This simmering dispute, occurring online and in e-mails coursing daily across the Internet, seems unlikely to evaporate any time soon.
-- Andrew Malcolm
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Ummm, his mother is American. No one disputes that. I think that makes him an American even if he was born on Mars. You can argue about the right interpretation of natural-born citizen all you want, but he's definitely an American citizen no matter where he was born
Posted by: B | July 23, 2009 at 05:25 PM
Your posting stories about birth certicates? plz why not post a real story. The truth behind the bush adminstration and the cover up with dick & george. That would be a real story. The truth...
Posted by: natzhawk | July 24, 2009 at 09:27 PM
Obama is an illegal alien, not the US president. He should be locked up for fraud.
Posted by: Joe | July 24, 2009 at 10:01 PM
In a loophole that exhisted when Obama was born, foreign citizens were allowed into Hawaii, and still able to qualify later to receive a Certificate of Live Birth as long as they met certain qualifications, which you should look up for yourself (which is not an actual birth certificate - long form). Libs, like the ones that have posted hear are absolute intellectual morons because they are never willing to look at all of the facts.
Posted by: Malcomn Jacobs | July 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
A certificate of live birth is not now or has ever been a birth-certificate, it shows a vague area of time in which you where born to an american citizen, when you arrived back in this country in order to recieve our rights as an AMERICAN. Obama is a fraud and a liar, and not an AMERICAN.
Posted by: Tucker | July 25, 2009 at 05:21 AM
Two things:
1. Why doesn't Obama just acknowledge his birth
certificate with proof and end the whole matter.
Why is it so secret?
2. It is amazing how the liberal wackos go after conservatives without any reason. Conservative
wackos do have proof and reasons.
Posted by: Ricco Von Tutti | July 26, 2009 at 11:33 AM
I want Obama's actual paper long form birth document, his private records, and all related evidence reviewed by a panel of judges in a court of law. Not a review by factcheck.org or CNN / MSNBC. I could care less what the media finds valid about Obama, it's all just their opinion. I want the facts reviewed in a court, and until that happens Obama and his supporters are concealing the truth, plain & simple.
Posted by: thefederalfarmer | July 26, 2009 at 05:10 PM
TO BE HIRED IN THE UNITED STATES (FEDERAL OR CIVILIAN JOBS) YOU MUST COMPELTE AND "I-9 FORM" -- HOW DID OBAMA "GET HIRED" WITHOUT SHOWING PROPER DOCUMENTATION??? AND DON'T SAY; "WE VOTED HIM IN OFFICE" --
Posted by: Patty | July 27, 2009 at 08:52 AM
Its evident that no one can have a personal view different or a disagreement with our current president, with out being attacked. However, you can all kiss off.
Posted by: Frank | July 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Why are his college transcripts missing? or any papers he wrote in college not on the internet? Did anyone know that he was on a board for the Annenberg's back in Chicago? What do we really know about this man? Dr Keyes is right, he spent more in the last 6 months then was spent on the war on terror and he's printing money like it's nothing. Everyone should be questioning what exactly is IN this Obamacare package he's rushing through to get signed. Why are the people running our Government exempt from it? If it is as good as they say, they should have the same healthcare as he is giving us. Why do some of you not question him? You just go blindingly faithful that he will take care of you. Health care is NOT in our Constitution.
Posted by: Barb | July 27, 2009 at 11:44 PM
How about the illegals? We have no money to take care of our own and he wants amnesty for them. They will also be helped out in the healthacre bill. That is his new voting block, he used you and now he wants to get some more just in case. He has done nothing for him to brag about except fly all over and apologize to the rest of the world. Doesn't anyone love this country anymore? We are supposed to be the superpower, we do not apologize. We do what we have to do. You are blinded by the fact that he makes everything a race issue, it never was a race issue. People actually disagree with where he is trying to take this country. That does not make them racists. Why does he interfere with a police officer doing his duty? What does that have to do with running the country? Have you taken a close look at thepeople he appointed? Lots of Chcago thugs who never cleaned up Chicago. Take off the rosse colored glasses and LOOK.
Posted by: Barb | July 27, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Could someone explain one thing about this birth certificate. If you look closely towards the bottom, if this is an original birth certificate why does it have a date of Jun 6, 2007? It should have a date back in the 1960's.
I don't know what is that people see in obama.
Posted by: Marlen Rodriguez | July 28, 2009 at 06:21 AM
That video was made months ago. I'm glad that it's recently acquired new "legs." ...
Dr. Keyes is not as smooth as Obama, but he is more articulate and certainly smarter. I formerly believed that he was just a brooding, angry black man, at least until I learned more of what he knew-- before almost all of us. It seems he has good reason to be angry and even fearful. What he says is true. I would recommend that most of you commenters take his message to heart, but that will be too difficult to do, if you do not first have the information base with which to interpret his words. I would suggest that you begin with materials other than MSM, blog adoration pieces and Obama's self-serving "biographies" and go directly to Don Fredrick's new book "The Obama Timeline" www.colony14.net . Earlier notes are available on http://colony14.net/id41.html . Get the ebook for about $6. Also try a leading Obama opposition site www.wnd.com . I know it's hard for partisans of any stripe, but try to read these with an open mind. You may initially be shocked and reject the message, but at least try. You owe it to yourself and country to be getting information from sources other just than the LA Times and its ilk. There's more to the story tan you might realize.
Posted by: gmiller | July 28, 2009 at 03:04 PM
If born in America, and doing to our country which he has. I would have to say he is a natural-born terrorist.
Posted by: Guy | July 28, 2009 at 07:48 PM
Until Obama or the State of Hawaii releases his ACTUAL birth certificate - the original document - then Obama's legitimacy should, and will, remain in question. Why don't they just release the original document? . . . Unless there isn't one to release . . . The COLB, printed in 2007, is not a birth certificate and has no weight. Obama remains "undocumented" for meeting the qualifications to be President.
Posted by: Get Lost | July 29, 2009 at 04:46 AM
"As a student in Indonesia, He is registered as an Indonesian citizen. This makes sense, as indonesia requires citizenship to go to school there, and does not allow dual citizenship. Obama has refused/failed to show he naturalized in the US as an adult. If he hasn't his childhood citizenship was relinquished, he is an indonesian citizen, and any certificate he waves around is as good as Confederate money."
WHAT AN IDIOT!! A child cannot claim nor relinquish any legal standing. Convenient to leave that out as it would mean the blame fell to his good, American White mother. And we couldn't have that now could we.
Posted by: LADavis | July 30, 2009 at 06:49 PM
So can someone answer, why does obama not just show one court his documents and end this circus?
Posted by: Yukon Dave | August 02, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Why don't the birth certificate have any signatures of the doctor . this is on every certificate in the u.s.
Posted by: bryan | August 03, 2009 at 04:50 PM
Are you kidding me? IS this guy real or off the deep-end?
US will "cease to exist", "destroy mortgage by having people stop paying", or "couple of years ago , penny pinching?"
Where has Alan been? ON a pipe dream? Is not the previous administration responsible for any of the current downfall?
"Illegals, Millitary to challenge, collapse of economy, destroy mortgages, collapse of economy", these happend overnight or in the last 180 days?
GET a GRIP Alan, you are NOT serving the better good for the nation, the people or ANY party. PICK ONE??????????
Posted by: Rick | August 03, 2009 at 05:14 PM
Obama, just release your records. It's not just Obama's original birth certificate at issue. WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.
Posted by: Jose | August 08, 2009 at 11:19 PM
I agree with Mr. Keyes statements, he is right on. I don't understand why so many want to be blind to the obvious with what is going on with our great country. There is nothing "mentally deranged" about his statements, he is speaking sense and truth. Some need to wake up, we are heading in a socialist direction for sure.
Posted by: Christy | August 09, 2009 at 07:02 AM
WHAT HOSPITAL WAS HE BORN IN? THEY COULD PROVIDE THE
NECESSARY RECORDS.
Posted by: JBON | August 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM
I ask you, why does the image of Obama's birth certificate,when opened with a free Hex Editor, show that it was altered with Adobe Photoshop C3?
Just curious why it would...
Posted by: TruthSeeker2420 | August 15, 2009 at 07:37 PM
It is amazing that you libs are the first to mention race or gender. You're all a bunch of hypocrites cause its not about minorities for you guys its about agenda. Why wouldn't you want to find our definitively if of present president is an userper or not, or does the constitution mean nothing to you guys. Oh never mind I already know the answer to that question.
Will
Posted by: Will | August 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Now what we can do?
Better find the truth now or move on now.
If something not sure better be find it now before too late.
If he was not born in US, better tell now to whole US citizens. If hide too long the truth, just will see more people join anti GOV. and Anti-LAW.
Soon as find the truth the US citizens will judge that fact.
Posted by: Young Ki | August 23, 2009 at 09:37 AM
He presented a short version of his birth certificate. NOT a birth certificate! It does not include the name of the doctor or hospital. Two very important pieces of information for the highest office in the land.
Posted by: David | August 23, 2009 at 09:10 PM
now see the wolf leads the sheep...see all the sheep comments below.
Posted by: eman2112 | August 25, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Keyes is a patriot.
The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records. All he has to do is make the following official public statement,
"I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file."
That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What and why is he hiding?
And maybe more disturbing is why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States? The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!
OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US YOUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER RECORDS!!!!!
Posted by: Captain Steve | August 26, 2009 at 07:13 PM
The image provided by the LA Times here is not a birth certificate. It is a certificate of live birth. The two are different documents. Most government agencies want a full birth certificate, not a certificate of live birth for identification. Why can't we have a real birth certificate?
Posted by: Wyatt Best | August 26, 2009 at 09:04 PM
This document is fake as far as I can see. There is no embossed official seal nor a embossed seal as you would get from a notary. No one signed this "Document" and there are no footprints on the front as a means of identification Very bogus!! Just a poor peice of paper.
Posted by: Harvey Cole | September 01, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Alan Keyes, If you are what you seem, we support you. I have said all along that Obama has a mission to take our country down and turn us into a muslim nation or a Socialist country. While I know many people who believe as we do, none of the Senators or representative to whom we have called and written seem to agree. We think that the Democrats that support him are blind and deaf to reason and the Republicans are afraid they will be called racists if they say anything. I do not want him to succeed in the undermining our country. We are 85/75 and beyond fighting, but if there is anything we can do, please tell us what to do. Jim and Joyce O'Brien
Posted by: LTC & Mrs. James M O'Brien | September 02, 2009 at 02:02 PM
To date, the ONLY forms of evidence presented has been a fraudulent COLB that Dr. Onaka of the Hawaii dept. of health has publicly stated that his office or anyone in his office did not release the forged COLB to obama's/soetoro's handlers. The news clippings of his birth,(not an official document), have been proved to be also fraudulent. The mother and father NEVER lived there, and had seperate addresses during their time in Hawaii. Why let facts get in the way. Congress has enacted a "COUP" for power. No Vetting for the usurper. Aside from the "evidence" provided and its fraudulent nature, what is the defining proof of citizenship? Is it his british citizenship confered upon birth by his father? No documentation that he ever renounced it. His mother was too young to confer citizenship upon birth wherever he was born. I realize the courts ask for "BEST EVIDENCE AVAILABLE", so what is it? Anyone who believes he has provided best evidence available, I have many waterfront properties for sale in central Florida at very affordable prices, even in this economic climate! Call me for MLS' 1.808.285.7481
Posted by: mike | September 05, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Now I can see how difficult is to a black politician to get a high position, specially as a DMC.
Posted by: Lynn | September 09, 2009 at 12:31 PM
This is a certificate of live birth, but an official Birth Certificate must have the offical seal of the State of Hawii and the signiture of the registar. Very strange that this is the only proof.
Posted by: Russell Duffey | September 16, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Here's a simple solution to SHUT EVERYONE UP: PRODUCE THE ACTUAL BIRTH CERTICATE!!!!
Posted by: anna | September 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Interesting how all the Obama supporters refer to those who question Obama's birth status as "nut-jobs" or "whack-jobs." The constitution requires that the President of the United States be born in the United States. Why is anyone a nut-job or whack-job for wanting confirmation of that? Why is it anyone that questions any of Obama's policys or the issues are now deemed to be racist by the socialist left? I'm not a Republican or a Democrat - but in comparing the two parties, I believe the Democrats are more likely to circumvent the rules or the law. Obama's defensive methods surrounding this issue cast a dark shadow on his legitamacy!
Posted by: Brent Tomlinson | September 30, 2009 at 07:32 AM
Perhaps you all should consider Obama's own words when debating Mr Keyes for the Senate seat. When confronted with the fact that he was not a US citizen, his response was 'So what? I'm not running for president'
Journalism used to protect our freedoms. Now it's sole purpose seems to be to destroy them.
Wake up America!
Posted by: Rick S | October 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Has anyone seen the birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama II?
If you believe in FactCheck, the ignore this.
If you voted for Obama in 2008, let me know, I have news of a fraud you were a victim of.
Are you out there?
Posted by: borderraven | October 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Why is that no one has come forward to confirm his birth a doctor, nurse ,neighbor,ex girlfriend nobody not one person sound just a little bit odd hmmmmm! The man's own grandmother thru the whole time he was running for president never uttered a word about him ! COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!! WHY HAS HE SPENT 800,0000 DOLLARS OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HAVE HIS RECORDS SEALED !God help us!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: j. digiro | October 27, 2009 at 09:34 PM
I am a 58 year old Black man who never had thoughts of growing up and becoming president. Mr. Obama has changed that forever for Black children. But that is all he has accomplished so far.
we are still at war, our economy is still in the dirt and health care is still only a dream for many americans. So why is he the greatest presidnt since FDR? Why did he receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
I don't believe he is a communist, but he has no idea what it means to be a Christian.
Alan Keyes is probably going overboard with his rhetoric, but then that's what makes this country so great. Even if your opinions are unpopular, or even stupid, you have the right to express them.
Posted by: Isaac G. Harris | October 29, 2009 at 02:30 PM
When citizens of the United States sign up for social security, get passports, etc., they have to provide a certified copy of their birth certificate. If they don't have a certified copy, they have to pay $20 for one. The number shown on the certificate is proof of citizenship of the United States. Why is it that our own President refuses to prove that he is a citizen, it would be so simple. If he lies about that, what else is he fabricating?
Posted by: Sharen Gusa | October 30, 2009 at 07:50 PM
Keyes is ignorant
Posted by: dee | November 13, 2009 at 12:48 PM
The fact is there is hardly a lefty who would care even if it were proven Obama had been born elsewhere. There is little they will not allow, as long as they have their agenda left intact--dismantling America one piece at a time. The real question for a democrat is this: if it were proven that Obama had been born in Kenya, what would you really do? Would you sacrifice your political orgy for the sake of Constitutional rightness? Or would you protect your own and sacrifice the country's right to Constitutional probity just because you believe your agenda is better for us than we think it is? Frankly, I don't know where Obama was born. I am willing to believe he was born in Hawaii. The real question, though, is whether there would be any leftist who would speak out against this man were such an enormity to be uncovered against him. I voted for George Bush. I am willing to believe that he lied to the American public to send troops to Iraq. It's in the realm of possibility. I am not so bound to my party as to be blind to the notion that politicians are human first and that all humans lie from time to time. If I have the intellectual honest to accept the possibility that my candidate did something wrong, is there a democrat out there who is willing to concede to the possibility--not probability--but the possibility that something is amiss here? Remember, as much as you may despise Alan Keyes, you despise his pro-life stance even more. This is what this is really about and what such debates are all finally about. The leftist will support whatever person secures for him his high holy black sabbath sacrament of abortion, even if it be the devil himself. George Bush was hated for one reason--he dared to be pro-life. This is why Reagan was hated, why Palin is now hated. This is the dirty little secret behind most of what the left does and will always do. They should just carry around dead-baby-dolls to assure themselves that all is right with the world. Wouldn't that pacify them? Oh, and by the way, it should be obvious to all you Stanford marxist propagandists out there that we are onto your favorite tactic of calling into question the intelligence or sanity of anyone who dares to disagree with you. Please. That stuff is all contained in the Communist Black Book, and we've all read you favorite plays over and over again. The truth is that Alan Keyes would argue most of you hacks into a mental coma, and you know it. Have any of you detractors actually listened to him speak, or have you, as is your wont, simply picked up the thoughtless drift of rumor and kept it going? If he had debated with Obama, he would have made hash out of him and molecules out of the hash and quarks out of the molecules. Obama is definitely the lesser intellect of the two, and you know it. This is why Keyes must constantly be silenced and mocked. This country's average male is a sissy who stands by while our unborn are slaughtered. Meanwhile we shed tears over our stupid little dogs and cats. Shame on us. Endless shame. The Nazis were no worse than we are. They loved their shephed dogs too.
Posted by: Joseph Pedulla | November 14, 2009 at 05:44 PM
In the USA there is a clown in most every crowd. Obama has, so far, shown himself to be by far the worst ever. His election is a great national tragedy! He wants to destroy free enterprise, he has more debt than all Presidents combined in the history of the USA. He got 785 BILLION stimulus money and where are the jobs? He is trying to get big government control of our lives which will take heavy taxes and a loss of freedom. This nation may never recover from the damage being done as we speak!
Posted by: Bud Smith | November 27, 2009 at 07:31 AM
Well I see where Obama's ratings have slipped to an all time low. Only one other president has out done him in the low column. My prediction is he will go down in history as the worst president ever.
Why will no senator, congressman or judge touch the citizenship deal. They know if he gets kicked out of office the left will drag out the gas cans as they always do. But they also know this. They know that this time around there will be a wad of folks carrying big old guns who do not want their buildings burned.
It is called scared. But no matter how scared anyone becomes it is still in their best interest to protect and up hold our constitution. If we don't then we don't know scared.
The only way you obtain wisdom is if the good lord let's you live long enough to gain that wisdom. Nope you can not go get it at the local library or off the Internet it only comes with age. I can tell by these post the age of the person doing the posting.
Young folks it might just be in your best interest to listen to the older folks. Just might save you some heartaches down the road.
But will you listen? Probably not. You will be just like I was in my younger days. I knew it all. I had an answer for everything.
My dad once told me that the day I finally realized that I did not know everything would be day that I started to obtain walking around sense. He was dead on the money. One thing for sure. I wish I had paid attention to more of what he tried to tell me. I could have avoided a huge number of bumps in the road.
Young people I am telling you that Obama is bad news. Will you pay attention? Probably not. But there will come a day when you will wish that you had.
Posted by: Bill Wilks | December 09, 2009 at 02:28 AM
Every time I look at these post all I see is Birth Certificate, Birth Certificate.
Can I just ask one question. WHY IS EVERY ONE WANTING TO SEE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
You do not need to see a Birth Certificate. Obama's father was a British subject. Every one knows that. That is not hear say that is a pure fact. Obama even admits it. Since Obama's father was a British Subject then that made Obama a British Subject. So Obama is a done deal on his fathers side.
Now to his mother. Look up the law. You have to be in the U.S. five years after your sixteenth birthday to make the little baby legit. His mother had him when she was barley eighteen. She would have to have been 21 when he was born. You know 16 + 5 = 21. So that cooks his goose on his mothers side and to be not legit he only has to be cooked on one side. Thomas Jefferson said both parents had to be U.S citizens.
Obama could have been born on top of a fence post in Texas and he still would not be legit according to our laws and constitution.
People you need to get off the Birth Certificate. We already have the evidence all we need to do is find a senator, congressman or judge who will can him.
Don't let the senators, congressmen or judges fool you. They know he is not legit. That is why every one of them needs to be voted out of office come next election.
Posted by: Bill Wilks | December 09, 2009 at 02:46 AM
Bill Wilks has hit the nail on the head. There’s this little matter called the Constitution, which states that the POTUS has to be a natural-born citizen.
The term “natural-born citizen” is fully defined by Emmerich deVattel in his book “Law of Nations” as “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens”... “I say that in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
This is clearly noted in Book 1, Chap. XIX, Par. 212, of the “Law of Nations”. This was published in 1758, or some three decades before the Constitution was ratified.
And the Law of Nations was very much in the minds of the framers of the Constitution. Article I, Section 8, gives Congress the power to define and punish offenses against the Law of Nations.
How could Congress punish these offenses if they had never read the Law of Nations? How many in Congress today are aware that the Constitution gives them that power...and responsibility?
Posted by: Dan | December 26, 2009 at 01:14 PM
sure looks like a new certificate to me, can't be 50 years old and look new, no way.
Posted by: rd porter | January 06, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Over a year since the 1st lawsuit challenging the '0s' NBC status and it ain't over yet...once born a dual citizen, always having been born a dual citizen...laws of nature and natural law explains...not time travel or legislation can change the '0s' birth circumstances...
Posted by: slcraig | January 14, 2010 at 09:47 AM
The issue isn't over the "Certificate of Live Birth." That's the short form, which basically states that a child was born alive and the presumed name of the child. The long form is the "normal" birth certificate... and the official one. It contains WAY more information on it than the short form. THIS is the form conservatives want to see... and we have the RIGHT to see... to verify the legitimacy of this president! If it's no big deal, then you can see why it's so frustrating for conservatives like myself to not be shown the document! Where much is given, much is required!!! I would have no problem accepting the legitimacy of Obama as president ONLY if he'd accept the REQUIREMENT of having to prove his natural birth having taken place in Hawaii (or anywhere within the United States as the Constitution REQUIRES) some time ago.
Posted by: Ridiculous! | January 24, 2010 at 05:18 AM