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Live-blogging the Saddleback Civil Forum, with Barack Obama and John McCain

August 16, 2008 |  4:32 pm

7:19 p.m. And now a final bit of analysis:

This event was meant to give voters a closer look at the candidates as people, and its most significant moments did not have to do with policy but with personality.Senators Barack Obama, John McCain, and Pastor Rick Warren at the Saddleback Forum

They took different approaches. Obama seemed to treat his time as an intimate conversation with Warren. He looked directly at the pastor when he spoke and only rarely turned toward the crowd. He talked a lot about his faith -- at one point quoting from the New Testament. He came off as thoughtful and even-toned, if not exceedingly engaging.

McCain was much more gregarious. He usually spoke directly to the audience, punctuating about every fifth sentence with the phrase "my friends." And he joked a lot -- as usual -- which played well with the crowd.

But considering that this was a forum at a church, he didn't talk much about his personal faith. He stuck largely to his stump speech, sprinkling it with engaging stories and anecdotes.

Compared to Obama, who spoke in long, nuanced sentences and made subtle points, McCain was much more direct. Several times he interrupted Warren to answer a question with a quick, one-sentence response.

It's too early to tell how their differences will affect voters' decisions in November.

But it's clear, after tonight, that those differences will make for some mighty interesting debates.

Here is a link to the full transcript of both sections of the event.

The running text of our live blogging continues below:

7 p.m. And . . . it's over! McCain's time is up, and he leaves the stage. 

6:55 p.m. When asked why he wants to be president, McCain rattles off his stump speech, almost verbatim -- the one that begins: "I believe that America's best days are ahead of us. . . . "

6:52 p.m. Warren and McCain are talking about the crisis in Georgia, which the senator refers to as "a beautiful little country." McCain gives....

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Obama's money machine runs rich; so do House and Senate Democrats

August 16, 2008 |  3:43 pm

Barack Obama raised $51 million in July, pushing the total he has raised since his presidential quest began to more than $390 million.

His take dipped slightly from the $52 million he raised in June. But he nearly matched the roughly $53 million raised by John McCain and the Republican National Committee combined in July.Obama_raises_money

Obama's $390 million in contributions (it's actually about $400 million when miscellaneous increases are counted) is significantly more than the nominees raised four years back. President Bush had raised $240 million at this point four years ago, and Sen. John Kerry had received $210 million in donations.

With the $27 million he raised in July, McCain's total now hovers at about $153 million.

Obama is spending heavily on television ads in battleground states and on the the high-priced Olympics. As a result, the Democrat's cash in the bank slipped to $65.8 million at the end of July, from $71.6 million at the end of June.

Obama expects to out-raise McCain in part by seeking more money from his army of now 2 million donors. McCain has 600,000 donors, his campaign says.

McCain, by contrast, is taking an $84-million grant of federal tax money to run his fall campaign. He also can use about $19 million in RNC money. Additionally, the RNC and various state parties can spend unlimited sums in independent campaigns on the nominee's behalf.

Despite Obama's record fundraising pace, McCain is not with his resources, thanks to the Republican National Committee itself. In addition to the $27 million McCain raised in July, the RNC raised $26 million.

McCain and the GOP had slightly more in the bank at the end of July than Obama and the DNC and its various committees, $96 million to $94.3 million.

Then there are the parties ...

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Ticket Notice: Sunday guests--Rice, Bayh, Gates, Romney, Kaine

August 16, 2008 | 12:00 pm

ABC This Week: Secretary of Defense Robert Gates; former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (McCain supporter) and former Sen. Tom Daschle (Obama supporter); round table with E.J. Dionne of the Brookings Institution, Michael Gerson of the Council on Foreign Relations, and Jan Crawford Greenburg and George Will of ABC News.

CBS Face the Nation: Rice; Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind./Obama supporter) and Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn./McCain supporter).

Former Massachusetts Republican Governor Mitt Romney who has now endorsed Arizona Senator John McCain for the GOP presidential nomination

CNN Late Edition: Gates; Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va./McCain supporter), Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md./Obama supporter), New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (Obama supporter), Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind./McCain supporter); round table with CNN's Candy Crowley, John King and William Schneider.

Fox News Sunday: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge (McCain supporter) and Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo./Obama supporter); roundtable with Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard/Fox News, Jill Zuckman of the Chicago Tribune, Bill Sammon of  Fox News and Juan Williams of National Public Radio/Fox News. The "Power Player" is White House Press Secretary Dana Perino.

NBC Meet The Press: Govs. Bobby Jindal (R-La./McCain supporter) and Tim Kaine (D-Va./Obama supporter); round table with Joshua Green of the Atlantic and Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd of NBC News. (NOTE: Meet the Press is on at 9 a.m. in Washington because of the Olympics.)

--Andrew Malcolm

Photo credit: Don Bartletti / Los Angeles Times


Michael Lerner, other clergy tell Obama: Forget the center. Go left!

August 16, 2008 |  6:14 am

As Barack Obama returns from vacation and catches up on his mail, awaiting him is a letter signed by more than 140 clergy members urging him to reject conventional wisdom -- as well as his own drift to the center of late -- and steer hard to the political left.

Rabbi Michael Lerner initiated the missive. From his home base in Northern California, he heads the Network of Spiritual Progressives and serves as editor of Tikkun (defined on the magazine's website as a word meaning "to heal, repair, and transform the world").

A bio on Lerner on the same site notes that during the early stages of President Clinton's administration, the rabbi's "ideas received national attention when Hillary Clinton adopted his notion of 'the politics of meaning' and called for the country to respond to these ideas. Lerner was described by the Washington Post as 'the guru of the White House,' and he became the subject of intense national debate."

Ultimately, the bio continues, Lerner "found that though the Clintons were using his words, they were actually following policies that were antithetical to his core ideas."

Not surprisingly, given that background, he was a strong Obama backer during the Democratic primary battle. An e-mail sent out earlier this week describes the Lerner letter as an appeal to Obama "to retain the ethical and spiritual vision that won him the [Democratic presidential] nomination in the first place. Rejecting the 'inside-the-Beltway' wisdom that a Democrat must 'move to the center to win the election,' the clergy disputed the very notion that this is an accurate understanding of American politics."

Lerner, in the e-mail, offers the following quotes:

"The central dichotomy in American politics is not Left/Right but fear/hope. When Senator Obama positioned himself as the prophet of a new kind of politics, he energized millions of young people, and even older Republicans and people who had become so cynical about politics that they have not voted in recent years.

"But that depended on him being the voice of peace against war, social justice against capitulation to the rich and the large corporations, and ecological sanity.

"If he now moves to what the inside-the-Beltway crowd calls The Center, he ends up in an election campaign in which he will be trying to prove that he is a better general for wartime than [John] McCain, and a better mini-manager of the same old system -- and that will undermine the hopefulness that was the ticket to his political success and the Republicans will become Republicans again, the youth and the cynics will return to their other concerns, and Obama's political possibilities will be worse, not better.

"Still, we approach Obama not as his political strategists but as religious, ethical and spiritual leaders to challenge him to put forward a fundamentally new ethical vision, which is actually the oldest vision -- the vision of our various religious and spiritual traditions and of the wise humanistic values that pervade all religions but can be accessed without being religious.

"We hope that Senator Obama will allow himself to be Obama again, rather than be swallowed up by the ethical visionless-ness of business-as-usual American politics."

Along with Lerner, the guiding forces behind the correspondence are identified as Benedictine Sister Joan Chittister, the Rev. Tony Campolo, Father John Dear, Rabbi Arthur Waskow, Imam Zaid Shakir and the Rev. Graylan S. Hagler.

The full text of the lengthy letter is available by clicking on the "Read more" line ...

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As Saddleback preps for presidential forum, big Bob Barr's unhappy he wasn't invited

August 15, 2008 |  9:00 pm

Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr feels left out. Poor Bob.

John McCain and Barack Obama are gearing up for their appearance at Saddleback Church in Orange County on Saturday, and the former Republican representative from Georgia thinks he should be there, too.

Shades of Rep.Former Republican representative Bob Barr of Georgia now the unhappy Libertarian Party candidate for president Ron Paul being dumped from a national Fox News debate of Republicans last winter in New Hampshire.

So Barr's campaign went to court on Friday to ask a federal judge to stop the event, which it says violates campaign finance laws. As of 8 p.m. Friday, the judge was still deliberating, according to Barr spokesman Steve Sinton. (UPDATE: Barr's court challenge was rejected Friday night, and the program with McCain and Obama will proceed as planned Saturday evening.)

Barr wasn't invited to the Saddleback forum. In the injunction filed against the church, Barr's campaign said that because Obama and McCain stand to benefit from the event's media exposure, it should be considered a non-monetary campaign contribution. That, Barr's lawyers said, is an illegal in-kind contribution.

The Ticket will be live-blogging Saturday's event with an analysis of the candidate's conversations with pastor Rick Warren and coverage of the anticipated protests outside.

CNN, Fox News and MSNBC also plan to cover it live. But they don't have our attitude.

--Kate Linthicum

Photo credit: Nicholas Kamm / AFP - Getty Images


Even in Sweden, Hillary Clinton loyalists are stirred up

August 15, 2008 |  8:19 pm

We knew Barack Obama would have trouble winning over Hillary Clinton loyalists in places like Columbus, Ohio, and Morgantown, W.Va. and the middle of Pennsylvania where all those bitter, smalltown gun owners live.

But who thought there would be an issue in Stockholm, Sweden?

The Scandinavia problem surfaced when a Democratic political strategist offered an analysis of his party's vice presidential sweepstakes Thursday night to the Democrats Abroad organization in Stockholm.

Kevin Lampe said he didn't believe Obama would choose Clinton or, for that matter, any other woman as his vice presidential running mate.

Lampe’s reasoning, according to folks who attended the...

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Facebook group urges Barack Obama to pass on Evan Bayh

August 15, 2008 |  6:04 pm

As speculation about Barack Obama's choice for a running mate reaches a fever pitch, thousands of his supporters are turning to the Web to tell the candidate who he shouldn't choose for vice president.

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Membership in a Facebook group imploring Obama not to pick Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh shot from just a few people on Wednesday to 3,316 by around 6 p.m. (Pacific) today. The group, 100,000 Strong Against Evan Bayh for VP, criticizes Bayh as "a career legacy politician who fell hook, line, and sinker for the administration's case for a disastrous war and dragged much of [the Democratic Party] with him."

A Facebook group that supports an Obama-Bayh ticket only has 116 members.

Ouch.

Now we all know Obama is tech-savvy. His campaign has relied heavily on the Internet to organize support, and he has promised to announce his VP pick through text messages to supporters.

But would he ever turn to Facebook to help make his selection?

Along with the anti-Bayh group, dozens of Facebook groups are pushing for various politicians to fill the spot. The most popular, a pro-Hillary Clinton group called Obama-Clinton 2008, boasts 1,724 members. She probably won't get the nomination, but Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine still is considered a contender. More than 150 people belong to Tim Kaine for Vice President.

Republicans are weighing in, too.

Mitt Romney is the winner of the John McCain Facebook veepstakes. We Want Mitt Romney for Vice President! has 675 members. Mike Huckabee for Vice President 2008 is a distant second, with 187 members, and John McCain & Tim Pawlenty 2008 has a paltry 66.

Tom Ridge for Vice President has just 40.

Still, it might not be a great idea to rely too heavily on Facebook membership totals.

After all, more people belong to a Facebook group called The Hardest Part of a Zombie Apocalypse Will be Pretending I'm Not Excited than to all of the VP-related groups combined.

-- Kate Linthicum


McCain, the jokester, is no laughing matter to the Obama camp

August 15, 2008 |  1:53 pm

John McCain has a reputation that would make a Borscht Belt comedian proud. Of course, humor, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

He reeled off some of his familiar jokes last night at an Aspen, Colo., fundraiser. (Among the, um, highlights, was calling ”Silent Cal" Coolidge "a hell of a campaigner.”)

At a meeting this morning at the Aspen Institute, McCain was jovial after sharing breakfast with T. Boone Pickens, the billionaire oil man, who has launched a campaign to boost domestic natural gas and wind power as cheaper alternatives to imported oil. Pickens has invested in both alternatives.

“How are you Boone?” McCain greeted Pickens, according to a pool reporter. Also there was a McCain confidante, South Carolina Sen. Lindsay Graham.

McCain told Pickens that Graham, a fellow Southerner, “speaks your language.”

Now, mentioning the accents of people you will need in November may not sound like a great strategy, but McCain has a history of telling people things they don’t like. He campaigns in the industrial areas and praises international trade agreements. He comes to California and praises offshore oil drilling. He went to the Iowa State Fair and said he didn't believe in federal subsidies for ethanol.

Having found a common language, McCain and Pickens made small talk before the cameras. Pickens mentioned that he had recently been in Iowa, and McCain replied that industry  there had attracted a large Hispanic population. Pickens noted the recent Census Bureau report that Caucasians will no longer be the majority in the United States by 2042. “We’ll go in the minority by 2042. You and I won’t have to worry about that,” Pickens said, according to the pool report.

As aides began ushering the pool reporters from the Pickens breakfast, one called out: "Senator McCain, can you say anything about the Jerome Corsi book, 'Obama Nation'?" McCain stepped toward the reporter, possibly to hear better, and the reporter repeated "The Jerome Corsi book? That book, 'Obama Nation,' Jerome Corsi, that some people are asking...."

McCain replied "Gotta keep your sense of humor," and the pool was escorted from the room. The McCain camp later said that the candidate had not heard the question and thought the reporter was asking about the campaign's recent television ads. 

For its part, the Obama campaign didn't take the reference to Corsi's book, “The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality,” as a laughing matter. Corsi achieved fame -- or depending on your viewpoint, infamy –- as the co-author of “Unfit for Command,” the attack on the Vietnam War record of 2004 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

In his current book, Corsi argues that Barack Obama is a dangerous radical. According to the Associated Press, the book is a compilation of all the innuendo and false rumors, easily available on the Internet, against Obama — that he was raised a Muslim, attended a radical, black church and secretly has a "black rage" hidden beneath the surface.

The Obama campaign -- eager to discredit the book and slam the Republican candidate in the process -- immediately shot back, issuing a statement before McCain aides put out their clarification.

“The old John McCain used to boast about honorable politics, while the new John McCain finds Rovian smears funny,” Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a prepared statement today. McCain’s presidential hopes were dashed by nasty rumors --- allegedly spread by Karl Rove -- in 2000.

“Honor is not a laughing matter. What does John McCain think is funny about an intolerant smear artist who called Pope John Paul II senile and claims the government lied about 9/11?,” Vietor said of Corsi.
“McCain has said he wants to run an honorable campaign, but his belief that these smears are funny makes people question whether he now approves of the same reprehensible politics used to smear his own character eight years ago.”

--Michael Muskal


Rick Warren plans to get personal with McCain, Obama

August 15, 2008 | 11:15 am

How personal is Rick Warren planning to get when he interviews John McCain and Barack Obama during their appearance Saturday at his Saddleback Church in Orange County?

The evangelical leader and author told David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network that he will ask the presumptive Republican and Democratic presidential nominees "questions about character, competence, about values, vision, virtue, about their convictions in leadership, about their experience. And I'm going to deal with their personal life because character matters. Their personal life does matter as a leader. God says so."

The personal stuff could get particularly touchy for McCain if it points back to his first marriage, which ended in 1980.  As the Los Angeles Times has reported, McCain obtained a marriage license to wed his current wife, Cindy, while still legally married to his first wife, Carol. McCain has said he behaved badly and that the collapse of his first marriage "was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity. The blame was entirely mine."

To be sure, if Warren wanted to be hard-edged about personal issues, he could probe Obama on why he stayed with Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. for two decades despite his now-former pastor’s incendiary sermons at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

Warren's recent comments suggest he will take a higher road with the candidates. In referring to the general election, the mega-church leader recently told The Times, "It's not between a stud and a dud this year. Both of these men care about America. My job is to let them share their views."

Yet Warren took a stern tone on the topic of marital infidelity when asked by ABC's Jake Tapper about John Edwards' recent admission of cheating on his wife, Elizabeth. Warren said that while forgiveness must be instant, "There's a difference between forgiveness and trust."

Warren went on to acknowledge that he would have reservations about voting for someone who had cheated on his wife. "Because if  you can't keep your faith to your most sacred vow -- " 'til death do us part" -- how in the world can I trust you to lead my family? My government? My nation? ...  I think people first need to ask forgiveness and then earn trust back over time. Can trust be re-earned? Absolutely, but it takes time."

Even if Warren lets McCain off the hook on the demise of his first marriage, the Arizona senator still faces skepticism from parts of the evangelical community, which he has been courting in this election.

As Politico reports, top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are in an uproar over McCain's recent comments to the Weekly Standard that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge's pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t rule him out as a vice presidential prospect.

"It absolutely floored me," Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values, told Politico. "It would doom him in Ohio."

-- Stuart Silverstein


Who's #2? Keep an eye on Obama's and McCain's planes

August 15, 2008 |  3:00 am

As the Democrats roll out their convention speakers and seasoned political observers parse those press releases to winnow the list of potential running mates for Barack Obama, it's worth recalling who broke the news four years ago that John F. Kerry had selected John Edwards.

It wasn't the presidential candidate. It was a guy with the handle "aerosmith," posting on an aviation message board.

Bryan Smith, a US Airways mechanic, arrived at work on June 5, 2004, the day before Kerry gathered reporters at his wife's estate near Pittsburgh and formally announced that Edwards was his No. 2. As Smith told NPR, he was passing through a hangar at the Pittsburgh airport to get to his work area "when I was informed by, I am assuming, Mr. Kerry's people that I should not peek in that hangar and that it was, in fact, closed for the day." A poster on an aviation message board broke the news that John Edwards was John Kerry's running mate.

So he did what you would have done: Every time he passed through that hangar that day, he took a look.

"Around 6 that evening, I peeked in and saw they were putting John Edwards' name on the airplane," he said. "They concealed it rather quickly -- they taped paper over the logos. I just happened to peek in at the right time."

When Smith got home from work, he went to his computer and "just put it on this chat room -– something for us to talk about in the airline business." But he didn't think about calling reporters, he said, and the mainstream media didn't pick up on his scoop.

If you get the scoop on either running mate -– for Obama or for John McCain -– please don't make that same mistake. Top of the Ticket is here 24/7.

-- Leslie Hoffecker

Photo credit: Gene J. Puskar / Associated Press



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