Hillary Clinton appropriates a signature line from Sarah Palin rallies
The Ticket professes surprise that the fellow occupying the top slot on the Democratic presidential ticket relied on his most important surrogate -- rather than himself -- to roll out a crowd-pleasing response to one of the high points of Sarah Palin rallies.
Then again, the line probably suits the style that Hillary Clinton developed as a presidential campaigner better than Barack Obama's more reserved demeanor.
Clinton, doing her part for her onetime rival in suburban Philadelphia today, referenced the popular "drill, baby, drill" chant that punctuates Palin appearances when the Republican discusses energy policy. Clinton told her listeners that Democrats have a better slogan: "Jobs, baby, jobs."
Obama, campaigning in Ohio, spotlighted the same subject with a different rhetorical technique. "J-O-B-S," he spelled out to his crowd. "Jobs. We've got to work on jobs."
A package of new economic proposals he unveiled included a temporary tax credit for businesses that create new U.S. jobs over a two-year period. The Times' Seema Mehta has more on this and Obama's other suggestions elsewhere on our website.
The audience-participation part of Palin rallies, by the way, may expand. As she campaigned in Ohio Sunday and spoke of the efforts a John McCain administration would make to increase production of so-called clean coal, she was interrupted by this chant: "Mine, baby, mine."
"That is very good, and that is new," she said. "We haven't heard that yet. OK! Mine, baby, mine... . May I plagiarize that?"
-- Don Frederick
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mining jobs AND drilling jobs are not only GOOD jobs - they are good-paying JOBS - so, too little too late demoCRITES (p.s. obama's tax plan will cost us losts of jobs !!!)
Posted by: tojoley | October 13, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Nice to Hillary again. Too bad she has to waste her time combating someone as lame a Palin. Hillary outclasses that backwoods ditz 20-1.
And could someone tell Palin that her job is to look for a job??
Ooops, that's my job. I'll take care of that for her!!
Posted by: mark | October 13, 2008 at 04:02 PM
No it is the 300B of corporate tax breaks, making the tax breaks to the top 1% permanent and the continued subsidization of Big Oil and Defense spending that will extend the recession. Oh - forgot - McBush plans to tax health benefits (remember it is your "responsibility" to be healthy and ensure HMOs are profitable) and cut back spending (Medicare on the table). Last but not the least, mandate privatization of social security so the fat cat WS weasels can make out like bandits again! Yes McBush and Mooselini are the way forward - to permanent recession!
Posted by: unbelievable | October 13, 2008 at 04:03 PM
There is no doubt that Hillary will be a senior cabinet member for Obama, and that will be great. She is an excellent stateswoman. Secretary of State Clinton?
sounds nice to millions of us. She is a wonderful asset and Obama is very smart to forge that strong alliance.
Posted by: sal | October 13, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Too bad, so sad. Maybe you can get a in Alaska when we send Sorry Sarah back to the oil fields. Good-bye Republican'ts (oops, I almost spelled it with a "u")
Posted by: Marcus | October 13, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Mining jobs are best when coupled with a lack of healthcare programs so that pesky black lung syndrome doesn't eat into the profits. And we all know that without healthy lungs, there won't be many hecklers at these rally events!
Posted by: Jill | October 13, 2008 at 04:25 PM
yeah great jobs for people who want to continue destroying the environment with an attitude that says i dont care about the future i just want it now!!
Posted by: thejaypee | October 13, 2008 at 04:25 PM
PALIN: MS HUBRIS, USA
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance; it is often associated with a lack of knowledge combined with a lack of humility. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in the Greek world. The proverb "pride goes before a fall" is thought to sum up the modern definition of hubris. In reference to someone being in hubrity: hubrity is a fulfillment of being hubristic or a continual behavior of being prideful. Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein exudes hubris in order to become a great scientist, but is eventually regretting this previous desire. Faustus in Christopher Marlowe's play Dr. Faustus exudes hubris, all the way until his final minutes of life.
Posted by: DUNCAN | October 13, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Good jobs? Oh, my dear, you've forgotten about the mining collapses that snuffed out the lives of many hard-working Americans. Mining is tough on the body, murder on the environment and devastating to local economies. Coal miners in this country have suffered harder than anyone but people put on chain gangs.
Posted by: Inkfingers | October 13, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Millions of Americans have paid too much money to the people who would employ workers to perpetuate the extortion we have been subjected to when purchasing fuel subjected to price increases based on nothing more than whims of fancy and never reciprocated when the fictitious catalysts for increase have been remedied. (I though there was a caveat on this board proscribing pre-adolescents, but it doesn't seem to be enforced.)
Posted by: old cowboy | October 13, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Are you kidding me? She is openly pitching a slogan?! Are Democratic voters really that stupid?
I guess I already know the answer to that question...
Posted by: The Dude | October 13, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Liars, baby, Liars
Posted by: George | October 13, 2008 at 05:54 PM
tojoley, maybe a market crash that erased 40% of the value of every publicly traded company in America and created the largest debt in the history of money is a problem Republicans should deal with.
Mining jobs were good jobs when the Feds made sure the mines were safe. Under the Republicans mine accidents soared because, after all, government isn't supposed to get in the way of making money.
Posted by: John Quimby | October 13, 2008 at 05:55 PM
tojoley:
Are "green jobs" not good jobs? Working with wind turbines, solar panels, and the like? There's more money there than you can shake a stick at. Come on over to the 21st century - I know you're scared, but really, it's not too bad here.
Posted by: Nick | October 13, 2008 at 05:59 PM
Palin is as bad as McCain. They are jumping all over the place. Anything for votes. Mining is going on big time. It is the problem of cleaning it that we need to get done. I am 74 years old and even I am not too sinile to figure that one out. Surely the Republicans could have come up with someone smarter than that.............
Posted by: Anna Knapp | October 13, 2008 at 05:59 PM
Mining and drilling are not permanent jobs. Ask the folks in the Iron Range country of Northern MN. Their iron mines have been flooded and turned into fish farms that are polluting ground water from the fish fecal matter.
When a mine moves, seldom do the jobs; when a mine closes, workers lose their jobs.
Eric
Posted by: Eric | October 13, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Foreign policy, how we interact with the world determines our own economy and therefor jobs. The democratic party tends to play well with others in that context. McCain's too vague in explaining his policies. His attacks on opponents comes off as signs of weakness, as did his "early withdrawal" from the campaign in MI. Although it is wise to withdraw when one is unable to win (in most cases), he made himself a hypocrite by doing so.
Mining for coal was the solution of the past and is not the way of the future, especially in an increasingly aware and 'green' society. Its combustion releases high levels of CO2 and leaves traces of heavy metals behind polluting the earth for years. Furthermore, drilling for oil (domestically) will not solve our overwhelming demand for it from the rest of the oil producing world. It is mathematically unfeasible to drill out of this problem.
Posted by: Theo | October 13, 2008 at 06:19 PM
"mining jobs AND drilling jobs are not only GOOD jobs - they are good-paying JOBS - so, too little too late demoCRITES (p.s. obama's tax plan will cost us losts of jobs !!!)"
Stupid season needs to come to a close in the U.S. Oil drilling will NOT save us from the reckoning that is coming, oil will run out. Let's make money and jobs, lots of jobs, becoming leaders in alternative energy technology. That is what Obama has been saying for months. These neo-Con oil guys have almost ruined our futures with old status quo oil drilling. Wake up. It is intelligence time. Something Obama has lots of. We need it after the last eight years of idiocy.
Colin
Posted by: Colin Kellogg | October 13, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Good for Hillary and hats off. Hillary's level of government knowledge, political astuteness and competence is at the 99th percentile; Palin is at the three percentile. Wait until they run against each other. Go Obama/Biden, the best team for the next four years!
Posted by: Emma Becker | October 13, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Tojoley,
Grasp baby grasp. At straws that is. Those are good jobs? Then YOU can go work them. Good paying, perhaps, but there's a reason - they are very BAD jobs. But I digress. Obama has been talking about creating jobs by investing in alternative energy for, oh gosh, 2 years perhaps? And he's not the first democrat to discuss it. THOSE are awesome jobs.
Also, you missed your connection to the fact-express and have been waiting in ignorance station, because you seem to buy the tax plan bs. Or you've been bashed over the head too many times with the misinformation stick? You're online and apparently reading, so why don't you read a little further. OBAMA'S TAX PLAN WILL NOT CUT JOBS. On the contrary, he's giving tax BREAKS to small businesses for EACH JOB THEY CREATE. Do you want so badly to villianize the democrats that you won't let something positive sink in? Its that kind of shortsightedness that's driven this country into the ground.
Posted by: jsmcgetaclue | October 13, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Jobs yes. Obama cannot get there.
Obama's plan is a "negative motivation" plan. The harder you work, the more you are taxed and then demonised.
The less you work the more the Government will give dole to you.
Jobs cannot be created when companies go "belly up".
Look at Hillary's campaign. She was $25M in debt when she stopped.
Why? Becasue that is the way democrats work.
They spend, spend, spend what they don't have.
If you run a company and spend 5500,000 on advertising to get $1M salees your company cannot survive.
The first 6 years of Bush (in spite of Sept 11 and wars) were O.K.
The last two years, people voted in the Democrat majority in house and senate. See what happened to the country?
It is not Bush. It is the evil Democrats that brought in the curse.
Posted by: Reuel | October 14, 2008 at 12:28 AM
To the poster Tojoley: Yes, mining jobs and drilling jobs are good paying jobs.... so are jobs like being a pimp and dealing drugs.... what's your point? Are you trying to say they pay well THEREFOR they are in our interest to drill and mine? That is backwards logic and it is fitting from a McCain supporter.
Posted by: AnotherMark | October 14, 2008 at 01:46 AM
Clinton is trying to promote a ticket that is
"Jobs, dead-fetus, jobs"
Baby refers to pro-life Gov. Palin.
Posted by: Reuel | October 14, 2008 at 12:03 PM
I hope the people of Alaska vote Palin out of office. They deserve someone better as governor.
Posted by: Guppy | October 14, 2008 at 01:34 PM
If we could believe every thing we hear this would be great. Between the lines and on Oblame-ah's /plan- is welfare for those who qualify. And billions going to UN for "redistribution". Also see Obama's " global poverty act". Expect mass immigration from the county that is calling him, "our native son".
Posted by: Gr | October 14, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Palin's folly; Her state is one of the only states with a supplies, her people are allready getting checks from oil companies. She also has a comparatively high approval rating. I supposse it to her discredit that she hasn't mastered the acting part of politics yet.
Posted by: Gr | October 14, 2008 at 02:34 PM
I live in a town where theres mining and drilling and alot of beer drinking, wife abusing, three wheeler riding, unhappy people with big gas guzzling trucks. The problem with mining communities and the mining mentality is that you use whats around you till its used up, then you move on. The houses in my town are pretty rundown as historically inhabitants didnt invest in them--and forget about frills like nice landscapes. Ranching and farming communities, on the other hand, tend to be tidier as these folks must reinvest into the land to survive. Have you ever been through Urvan Colorado? Its a former mining town that has been razed due to toxic contamination after years of some company getting rich. Taxpayers have had to pay for the cleanup as its now a superfund site. Methane drilling threatens our water sources with toxic chemicals--100 years from now the new superfund sites. Drilling sucks. America needs to think about investing back into our country, not just continuing to deplete our resource "savings accounts".
Posted by: swest | October 14, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Date:Tuesday Oct 15,2008
Time:4:13PM
To the caller above, I couldn't agree with your comment more. True democratics are not that stupid.. they know when the truth and nothing but the truth is being told..and what's at stake. Therefore, I say, let's continue our fight with the Republicans, vote McCain/Palin Nov. 4th.
Sincerely,
Emmery Jones Jr/Hilary PUMA SUPPORTER
Medical Record's Consultant CCS-P
Graduate: William Rainey Harper College
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Date:Sat 18,2008
Time:11:13am
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Sincerely,
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Health Information Admin.CCS-P
Graduate:William Rainey Harper College
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