Hillary Clinton's revealing purchase: A website called HRC2012
Sometimes a website name is just a website name.
Maybe the move by a company that's worked closely with the former first lady is just what it seems: yet another step by Hillary Rodham Clinton to prepare for another run for the Senate from New York in four years. Or another run for the White House. We won't know, of course, for some time.
But that comes with the news, as reported in The Ticket early the other morning, that Clinton has urgently requested her 2008 general election supporters to approve transfer of their unusable donations for this year's presidential race over to her 2012 Senate campaign.
(And then, potentially, into a new presidential campaign fund, as she did with $10 million of her surplus 2006 Senate campaign funds).
If this year's donors don't approve that transfer soon, Clinton must return the '08 money by Aug. 28.
The respected blogger Marc Ambinder of TheAtlantic.com is reporting tonight that a company associated with Clinton's top advance team leaders, the Markham Group, purchased that domain name on June 8.
June 8th? Why does that ring a bell? Why, that's the very next day after her "I-give-up-and-heartily-support Obama" speech where her family was dressed for a funeral.
Clinton sources told Ambinder the New York senator was committed to helping elect Obama on Nov. 4, but she wanted to keep her options open for later. Imagine that in a seasoned politician.
Come 2012 Clinton would have to choose which race she'd enter. Two years ago in her first Senate reelection bid, her main website was HillaryClinton.com, which she still has. Plus HillPac.com for her political action committee and another one for her '08 campaign debt donations.
So why would she need another website with 2012 in it, unless.... Her disappointed presidential campaign supporters may take heart. But will they still help elect another Democrat this November? Or sit it out and let '12 fall to her?
We are just six weeks out from Clinton's '08 surrender to Barack Obama. And, surely, everyone knows exactly what that means: only 223 weeks left until the 2012 election.
--Andrew Malcolm
Photo credit: AP

Oh, that evil ambitious Hillary. Imagine the audacity of someone who ran for president and came close to getting the nomination wanting to run again. Imagine her not wanting a key blog address in the hands of her opponents or someone else. Imagine!
If Hillary had been the one who got the nomination, I would fully expect Obama2012 to be bought up by the good senator from Illinois. Anything else would be stupidity! But that would probably make few headlines, since it is Hillary who has been caricatured as -- gasp! -- an ambitious woman, while Barack is simply driven.
For the record, I voted for Richardson, but either Clinton or Obama would make a fine president.
Posted by: Nate Hilts | July 19, 2008 at 02:40 AM
Why Barack Hussein Obama Cannot Be Trusted!
Racist Radical Pastors
Refusing to Wear American Flag
Friends with Domestic Bomber Ayres
Disowns his Church
Racist Wife
In 1991 Pledged Allegiance to the Black Value System (bet he placed his hand on his heart for this one)
Choosing not to Place Hand on Heart during National Anthem
Muslim Upbringing
Homosexual Sex Scandal
Friendship with 16 Count Convicted Felon Rezko
Citizenship and Family ties to Kenya
Endorsement from Hamas
Not Enough Political Experience
Votes Present more than Votes
Supports Killing the Unborn
Ranked #1 Tax and Spend Liberal
Campaign Promises that will Bankrupt the USA
Lies and Broken Campaign Promises
Posted by: markus | July 19, 2008 at 04:15 AM
Is there news in this? I voted for Hillary and I wish she was running against McCain. I can't believe someone paid attention to this. At least the media is electronic and no one wasted a tree.
Posted by: zeke | July 19, 2008 at 04:28 AM
Not sure how NY voters feel but I myself sense that as far as Oval Office, the Clintons are done. I might be surprised and if so, I'll be very surprised. It was the primary campaign from hell as far as I could see. Polarizing, neurotic, combative, competitive, reactive, virtually without spontaneous enthusiasm or natural presence, pretty studied, strategic, neurotic, same old, Karl Rove playbook, knee cap stuff, and then polarize. The Clinton campaign ran around looking for any constituency they could arouse against any other. They wound up focusing on places like rural Oregon where people have historically voted conservative and Republican and they kept on strutting their stuff against diminshing venues. This website is more of the same. It is a study in the ambition for power wearing the mask of public service and "I will take care of you," at least til you cross me or I lose and then I'll treat you as though you never were. So for the splintered and polarized constiuents that the Clintons still own, just try and bring her back. It's over.
Posted by: Gaias Child | July 19, 2008 at 04:31 AM
President Obama will have to work with these people, but must never, ever trust them.
Posted by: Casey | July 19, 2008 at 05:42 AM
Once again, the main stream media just can't help but find a way, in your case a silly photograph, to 'demean' and 'discount' Senator Clinton's viability as a candidate for President. Why don't you run a picture of Obama in a compromised pose? I think not! Senator Clinton has every right to choose her destiny -- if that includes another run for the Presidency, good for her! I'll vote for Hillary anyday over the two yahoos we've got running for office now!
Posted by: Patricia | July 19, 2008 at 06:26 AM
If McCain wins, Hillary will run against him in 2012. Why is this such a surprise? Obama winning in November is not a sure thing, you should know that.
Posted by: Jack | July 19, 2008 at 07:18 AM
WHILE OBAMA IS TRAVELING, .....
HILLARY MAY BE ANTICIPATING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME AT THE CONVENTION
The Democratic convention is not over and done with.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-clintons-presidential-campaign.html
Posted by: pacificGatePost | July 19, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Um, how did blogger Mark Ambinder gather that the domain was purchase by the Markham Group when they are not listed in WHOIS info his blog links to? Did the Markham Group use Domains By Proxy to hide their purchase back on the 10th? Did Ambinder track the history of the domain? Did Ambinder receive a big tip off or other information source he isn't disclosing?
Posted by: Human | July 19, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Even if Obama wins in 2008, she will run in 2012, simply because she is a megalomaniac and feels the WH is owed to her for the years she put up with Bill's hanky panky.
Posted by: Harry | July 19, 2008 at 10:09 AM
The Los Angeles Times is one of the most biased "objective" newspapers I've read in my life. Throughout the primary, they continually framed their articles and even the debate they sponsored to help annoint Barack Obama the Democratic nominee and even now, they won't stop.
Look at the freaking picture they use - even if you think that Hillary is planning a run for president in 2012, what's the point of a humiliating, blown up, low quality picture? How is that expression remotely relevant to what the blogger is trying to say?
Posted by: Joseph | July 19, 2008 at 10:22 AM
a vote for obama/osama is nothing more than a collective helsinki vote,never surrender
Posted by: victor knopp | July 19, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Nate: I live in 2 states: CA and NM. New Mexico, where Richardson is Governor, is like a third-world country. Due to Libertarians who generally live in Santa Fe, the lack of governance is most pronounced in the following areas:
1. Threat of flooding from the Rio Grande river due to levee collapse which is the result of vetos from Richardson to provide funding.
2. Interstate 10 lacks road safety reflectors which in CA alerts sleepy /distracted drivers to prevent roll-overs.
3. A very high level of DUIs, alcoholism and teen pregnancy reflects the hopelessness of many in this State.
Clinton Yes, Richardson and Obama, No.
Posted by: MG | July 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM
If Hillary even considers sabotaging Obama's presidential campaign, Hillary will NEVER, EVER become president!
The millions, and millions of people who voted for Obama WILL NEVER vote for Hillary. Hillary will NEVER without Obama voters, so Hillary needs to realize that this is NOT about her ego, that this election in November is about making sure that the citizens of this country get a democratic president who wants to bring the Iraq war to an end, and focus our attention on fighting against AlQueada, and the Taliban in Afghnaistan (the people who are responsible for 9/11).
Hillary need to realize that this is about electing a democratic president who will make sure that the millions of Americans who do not have health coverage will be able to afford it. Hillary needs to realize that this election is about getting a democartic president elected who wants to give the MIDDLE CLASS, and the POOR in this country the tax cuts, because those are the people who are suffering the most, who have having a hard time paying their rent or mortgage, and buying food, and gas. Hillary needs to realize that this election is about getting a democratic president elected in November who will put the USA on track toward energy independence, a president who will encourage the oil companies to start drilling on the land THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW SITTING IDLE! Hillary needs to realize that we need to elect a democartic president who will ALSO invest in alternative sources of energy like biofuel, geothermal, wind, solar, as well as who wants to invest in SAFE nuclear energy, as well as clean coal energy, so that the USA can finally stop being dependent on foreign countries for oil, and at the same time create jobs right here in the USA for American citizens.
Hillary needs to realize that this is not about ego, that this election in November is about electing a democartic president elected who will secure our borders with border agents, with infrastructure, as well as with technology, to cut down on illegal immigartion. Hillary needs to realizes that we need to elect a democratic president in November who will improve our elementary schools, and highschools, so that our children are properly educated, a democratic president who will offer college students tax credits so that they will be able to afford to pay for college. Hillary needs to realize that we need democartic president elected in November, who will fight for the rights of women to get paid the same as a man for the work they do. A democartic president who will protect Social Security and to make sure that it will be there in the future for all of us. Hillary needs to realize that we need to elect in November a democratic president who will give the tax cuts to the MIDDLE CLASS, and the POOR in this country so they can afford to pay their rent or mortgage, and buy food, and gas.
That democrat who will do all these things, and who needs to be elected in November is Barack Obama.
Any effort Hillary Clinton makes to try to sabotage the this presidential election in November will only result in millions, and millions of people suffering for 4 more years. And I am sure that Hillary does not want that. NO ONE with a heart would want her own democratic supporters to suffer for 4 years! And Hillary knows that 4 more years of republicans is going to result in things getting WORST, and WORST in this country!
Posted by: Sara | July 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Given the negativity from Susie Buell, who seems to have taken on the role of Bill Clinton this summer, skepticism is justified. Somehow Hillary Clinton is supporting the presumptive nominee, but cannot deliver even those closest to her, yet she wanted to lead the country.
I didn't start out with Obama so don't give me that. I'm also a feminist embarrassed by the way women's issues were used, and will never ever give to Emily's List again after I got the mailings they paid for.
The mindset seems to be that winning justifies everything, and it's all about them. Rules are for little people.
She performed well at one forum but by their works you know them. Somehow the 'people around her' are constantly carping at Obama, sticking him up for money. They have nothing to lose apparently.
The country has a lot to lose.
Posted by: anna | July 19, 2008 at 12:52 PM
This just proves to me that I will never trust/contribute/vote for Hillary Clinton. Please have the Clintons mosy out to the old pastures of the 1990's and set up a musuem in their own honor - they would be the only ones who could really appreciate the site!
Posted by: Martha.haga | July 19, 2008 at 01:13 PM
I feel a need to front load the comment section with the following, as I grow weary of negative comments about Obama from Hillary supporters:
Dear Hillary Supporters Now Voting For McCain:
The fight for the nomination is long over. Hillary lost. Don't vote out of spite. Don't be sore losers. If you vote for McCain, you vote for an ideology far removed from the one you claimed to find dear by virtue of supporting Mrs. Clinton. Why would you do that? Do you only support personas, or do you actually support positions and solutions this country will need to move forward? Do you really want eight more years of Neo-con war mongering and profiteering? Really? You do?
Vote for Barack H. Obama.
Posted by: In Defense of Reason | July 19, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Both Hillary and Bill have worked for good causes; however, the citizens of the US take a very uncomfortable back seat to their win at any cost motives. Those of us that paid attention to Bill's presidency saw their many unethical and illegal actions.
Hillary has faked a few "campaigning for Obama." Motive? Getting her campaign debt reduced?
Despite all his rhetoric, Bill has not done any campaigning for Obama.
I do not want McCain and "Foreclosure Phil" Gramm further destroying our economy while making the wealthy richer. Despite his stated resignation, Gramm will be in the background advising McCain.
McCain knew Gramm's background because McCain has supported him through the years. McCain knew Gramm and his wife took money from Enron to deregulate the futures trading.
McCain had to have known that Gramm's employer, UBS, has been under investigation for a long time for helping US citizens avoid tax.
McCain and Gramm were instrumental in derailing Clinton's health care initiative in the 1990s.
If Hillary and Bill were serious about supporting Obama, they would be out there actively campaigning.
Blackmail for the VP slot?
Posted by: Julie | July 19, 2008 at 01:29 PM
The thought of going through another political season of kitchen-sink tactics and snipper-fire lies turns my stomach. It's my hope that Hillary loses her Senate seat after the kind of campaign I saw her run these past months for President as a New Yorker I can assure you that I won't be giving her my vote.
I wish Hillary would just go away becuase quite honestly I can't even stand to hear her voice anymore and this is from someone who voted for her twice plus twice for President Clinton. They have lost my respect and I say this with sadness.
Posted by: WarriorLemming | July 19, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Dear God...
How could the woman be so evil.
And you know what else?
How dare she stay in till the end.
Who does she think she is Ted Kennedy? Jesse Jackson?
a man?
She voted AGAINST Fisa!
You know she only did it to make Barack look bad. If she was the nominee she would have supported it. Everybody says so, so it must be true! Yeah, I heard the rumor that she had her FISA statement on her website in the Senate since January biut doesn't that just prove how Machiavellian she is?
And the nerve to co-sponsor. Ohhh she really is a manipulative deviant.
And now this!
What if McCain wins (its her fault of course and this just proves how she has been working behind the scenes for that. EVERYBODY at Huffington Post says it so you know its true.
==============================
When, oh when are you going to get over Hillary Clinton?
Your snarkyness is based on what? That she had the gall to do what she said she would do and make every vote count? Let every American in every state vote?
The obsession with demonizing Hillary Clinton is beyond belief? What the hell? What is the point?
Not agreeing with her policies is one thing but to portray her as something so vile is quite another. Those who used neocon slime machine lies of the 90's should be ashamed.
Do you know what people disapprove of and like least about Obama?
His supporters.
Posted by: ohmercy | July 19, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Seriously hope she doesn't run. I think the time is right for a woman president, but they should come up with ANYBODY besides her. She is a career politician who only cares about herself. She will move entire states in order to slip into someone else's Senate. She will hold healthcare as her own personal endeavor, up until she gets money from an HMO lobbyist. Another sign- If any other woman was faced with national-emberassment over a cheating-husband getting oral action, they would probably leave him in half a second. For Hillary's long-term agenda as a "career politician," she didn't leave Bill because she would have lost her "political stepping stone". She will vote for the war in Iraq with all of her "military expertise", and then wash her hands of it in the name of riding Democratic stances/fads during campaign time. She has a closet agenda she has not quite come out with. She wants you to vote for her, but she doesn't want you to know what she plans to do in office.
If she gets elected, perhaps it is time for revolution to take our Democracy back from electoral corruption. In a nation of 300,000,000 people with a constitution that says YOU can become president- don't you find it a bit "strange" that we have had a father/son and possibly a husband/wife combo all within 4 or 5 presidents of each other? Who will it be in 2016, Chelsea Clinton vs. Jenna Bush? What are the odds of that being a coincidence? That is not Democracy. Statistically speaking, that is a Monarchy disguised as a Democracy... I hope when Hillary is finished playing "Mrs. Popular" in New York, she crawls back under her rock in Arkansas and leaves us all alone.
Posted by: Latreen Johnson | July 19, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Hardly a surprise. Hillary's lukewarm endorsement of Obama points to a strategy which would embrace a McCain victory in November - and set her fair to run in 2012. She IS Chucky, the devil-doll will just not die... unless her legs are revealed!
Posted by: John Bard | July 19, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Finally, I agree with Hillary Clinton. We both hope that Obama loses.
Posted by: John Gleason | July 19, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Doesn't really bother me. If Obama loses in November, Hillary would easily be the nominee in 2012.
Posted by: Bill | July 19, 2008 at 02:27 PM
HRC is ghastly, and four more years on her tired tires won't do anything to improve her. In any case, anyone who wants it as bad as she does should be spurned as a matter of principle. By my runes, the last one who was this hell bent was Nixon. How'd that turn out?
Posted by: Ross | July 19, 2008 at 02:42 PM
Hillary Clinton is trash under the shoes of reputable people. Her pandering for money and hopes that our nominee fails will only ensure that SHE will never make it regardless of the year. IF Obama failed? SHE will be to blame.
Posted by: Deanna | July 19, 2008 at 02:55 PM
This is why she cannot be trusted
and should not be Senator Obama's VP
raise my case ! the woman does not have a sense of elegance ..........
sad , sad Clinton
Posted by: gary | July 19, 2008 at 03:17 PM
I know Hillary Clinton will defenately get the nomination and a seat in the white house in 2012... Maybe by then, people will actualy wake up and knock out of their nightmares to elect Hillary as president. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IF IT WAS UP TO THE PEOPLE TO CHOOSE A PRESIDENT OR DEM. NOMINEE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HILLARY WHO WOULD BE RUNNING THIS YEAR FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STUPID CHEATERS ON SUPERDELEGATES!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Melissa Diaz | July 19, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Hillary needs to realize that this is not about her ego!
Hillary needs to realize that we need a democratic president elected THIS NOVEMBER who will bring the Iraq war to an end, and focus our attention on fighting the people who are responsible for 9/11, and that is AlQueada, and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Hillary needs to realize that THIS NOVEMBER election is about getting a democratic president elected who will give the MIDDLE CLASS, and the POOR in this country the largest tax cuts, because these are the people who are have having a hard time paying their rent or mortgage, and buying food, and gas. THIS NOVEMBER is about electing a democratic president who will make sure that millions of Americans will be able to afford health coverage. AND president who will make sure social security is protected. And a president who will improve our schools. AND make it affordable for students to go to college.
Hillary needs to realize that we need a democratic president elected THIS NOVEMBER who will put the USA on track toward ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, who will invest in alternative energy like biofuel, geothermal, SAFE nuclear energy, and clean coal energy, wind, and SOLAR.
Hillary needs to realize that we need a democratic president elected THIS NOVEMBER, who will protect the rights of women, and also fight for the rights of women to get paid the same as a man!
AND Barack Obama WILL DO ALL these things when he is elected!
Posted by: Sara | July 19, 2008 at 03:32 PM
Well, i think all we need to worry about right now
is getting Barack Obama elected as our president.
Even with the mess he will be stepping into have
faith in him doing a good job, so 2012 is
immaterial.
Posted by: katiec | July 19, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Posted by: Nate Hilts | July 19, 2008 at 02:40 AM
Why Barack Hussein Obama Cannot Be Trusted!
Racist Radical Pastors
Refusing to Wear American Flag
Friends with Domestic Bomber Ayres
Disowns his Church
Racist Wife
In 1991 Pledged Allegiance to the Black Value System (bet he placed his hand on his heart for this one)
Choosing not to Place Hand on Heart during National Anthem
Muslim Upbringing
Homosexual Sex Scandal
Friendship with 16 Count Convicted Felon Rezko
Citizenship and Family ties to Kenya
Endorsement from Hamas
Not Enough Political Experience
Votes Present more than Votes
Supports Killing the Unborn
Ranked #1 Tax and Spend Liberal
Campaign Promises that will Bankrupt the USA
Lies and Broken Campaign Promises
Posted by: markus | July 19, 2008 at 04:15 AM
Is there news in this? I voted for Hillary and I wish she was running against McCain. I can't believe someone paid attention to this. At least the media is electronic and no one wasted a tree.
Dumb-azz you don't place your hand on your heart while the national anthem is being sung. No-one does that in any country in the world dim-witt you STAND AT ATTENTION!!!!! hand on heart Pledge. your post just tells us how ill-informed and racist you people are.
Posted by: nails | July 19, 2008 at 04:37 PM
For all the posters who think Hillary is the only one with an ego, I challenge you to find any Presidential candidate who isn't power driven...THEY DON'T EXIST!! Have you taken notice of the most ego driven one of all....which is by far Mr. Obama himself. At least the Clintons used the power to help many people. All the politicians will help special interests...that's the name of the game, but the Clintons also have a great sense of what it takes to help the average person as well. I'll take Hillary with all her foibles over the self-aggrandizing Obama messiah anyday!!
Posted by: kmb08 | July 19, 2008 at 04:39 PM
ohmercy...
Touche'....Great Post!!
Posted by: kmb08 | July 19, 2008 at 04:44 PM
John Edwards wrecked Hillary.Had he not run,Hillary would have won Iowa,followed that up with New Hampshire and the superdelegates would have fallen in line.But back to 2012.
If Obama wins,he will have his people regardless of how his presidency turns out.In a crowded field,he wins again.If the superdelegates don't back him,his supporters walk in November and the Republicans have the White House and two-thirds of the Congress.
Posted by: Tom Dockery | July 19, 2008 at 05:12 PM
It seems LATIMESBLOGS (this site) isn't posting many of the post that disagree with the Pro HRC comments!
Posted by: nails | July 19, 2008 at 05:58 PM
Give up. It ain't gonna happen.
1/2 democrats can't stand her. All republicans hate her.
Posted by: RJII | July 19, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Hillary Clinton waisting her own time. Her only future is working to elect Sen. Obama for president. As a white dude. If Sen. Obama lost this election. Hillary Clinton will never win her senate seat. I'm not even talking about president. because the AA in new york will never vote for her as a senator again. they elected her. not even talking about the young voters. by 2012 all those old-ma and old-pa will have died by then. and the 14 and 15 years old will be at voting age by then.
So, hillary and her supporters the only option is working with Sen. Obama now. failure to do so, there will be NO future for Hillary.
by the way, I heard that there are lot of AA buying domain names to go anti Hillary. without AA votes she or NO democrat will never make it.
Posted by: Pete | July 19, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Poster 8:24 nails the math and it will remain a permanent condition that Hillary can not overcome. You can't spin the math. Hillary, for decades, has believed her own press releases, but this year she finally saw even her own party's fatigue of her. As for her supporters, well, what about them? They're mostly closet Republicans having a little fun.
Posted by: Rita | July 20, 2008 at 07:24 AM
In response to Gaias Child and Sara, this election is not about Obama and Hillary, it's about Billioinaire George Soros setting up a media militia that pretends to report the news when it's actually manipulating the news to Soros advantage.
While some may say that is nothing new, what is new is doing it to the extent it was done prior to the nominee being chosen by the people.
Soros cannot succeed or he will turn back our political process at a time when we cannot afford it.
Soros Daisy chain of command includes Move-on.org, Media Matters, Huffington Post. Huffington Post then triages all the media with "pundit hacks" who all favor Obama but pretend to be intellectually driven.
They hack pundits feed MSNBC, CNN, Newsweek, and Time Magazine.
A judge should instate a restraining order keeping all of these hacks from meeting on television UNLESS we are all warned that they already support Barack Obama in graphics under their images.
http://www.HILLARY-WINS.com
http://www.CAUCUSCHEATING.com
http://www.FAIR-REFLECTION.com
Posted by: Alessandro Machi | July 20, 2008 at 09:33 AM
Pete, if AA's are so for Obama, then they have fallen short because Obama is beholden to George Soros. Barack Obama traded long term success, first as VP, then as President, in exchange for a quick fix chance as president.
by drinking the George Soros Kool Aid, Barack Obama has set back our system of electing presidents by 20 years. No one will dare run against a Soros supported candidate in the future, that is what many Barack Obama supporters fail to see.
Posted by: Alessandro Machi | July 20, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Hey Hillary supporters, do you see how these crazy Obama maniacs are still posting a lot of hate here for our great lady Hillary Clinton? They continue with their lies and hate for Hillary, then want us to vote for Obama. The Hillary supporters numbers are great, you will need us for Obama to win, but because of your ignorance, and Obama's unfitness to be president, he will never get our votes. Barack Hussein Obama should go to his father's country, Kenya, and try to help his relatives and countrymen there. John McCain, we are voting for you.
Posted by: Versus | July 20, 2008 at 09:50 AM
MARKUS,
Your post is great. Those are the reasons I find Barack Hussein Obama totally lacking in good judgment and leadership. This man is a danger to this country and should never become our president.
Posted by: Seni | July 20, 2008 at 10:07 AM
People should not give her a nickel until she paid for the primary campaign.
Posted by: Gerry | July 20, 2008 at 10:35 AM
So let me get this straight ...
Senator Clinton wanted E-v-e-r-y vote to count?
Unless, of course, You are a V-o-t-e-r in a Primary S-h-e did not win or a V-o-t-e-r from a Caucus state S-h-e did not win. (She's soooooo gracious ... She didn't even T-h-a-n-k V-o-t-e-r-s who voted for H-e-r in states she lost.) Her attitude to them was ... Thanks For Nothing!
Senator Clinton won the Popular Vote?
Talk about 'N-e-w Math"! Oh yea ... If you c-h-o-o-s-e to N-o-t count A-l-l the votes from A-l-l the voters in A-l-l the States ... Then, I guess, You do have the most votes. Somebody run out and tell the Lakers t-h-e-y are the r-e-a-l NBA Champions for this year. Some of the points scored by Boston were from the Free-Throw Line so ... They don't count.
Senator Clintons' supporters (some) say the DNC s-t-o-l-e it from H-e-r? The process was F-l-a-w-e-d?
Really?
This is the E-x-a-c-t S-a-m-e process that BILL CLINTON went through. It worked the E-x-a-c-t same way. Was He Robbed? Was Jimmy Carter Robbed? Was John Kerry Robbed? Was Al Gore Robbed? They all went through the S-a-m-e process. Same Rules. They weren't Robbed ... and ... Neither was Senator Clinton or John Edwards or Bill Richardson or Chris Dodd or A-n-y-o-n-e who held a Democratic Campaign for POTUS.
Senator Clinton and her supporters feel the Media and and Others were S-e-x-i-s-t. Really?
Well, It has been said: "If you can't stand the heat ... Don't throw the 'K-i-t-c-h-e-n S-i-n-k"!
If F-e-m-a-l-e-s (Minorities/Whoever) want to compete on a Level Playing Field then S-h-e/They/We have to be held to the S-a-m-e S-t-a-n-d-a-r-d of A-c-c-o-u-n-t-a-b-i-l-i-t-y that already exist in that area.
Senator Clinton Cried: "Big Girs Don't Cry". Certainly N-o-t in Politics.
Senator Clinton Lied: Well, She is a C-l-i-n-t-o-n so that doesn't really count againt her (I guess). Lying and Clinton go Hand-in-Hand. The jury will Disregard.
Senator Clinton loves Americans so much She went Coast-to-Coast racking up bills and s-t-i-f-f-i-n-g thousands of S-m-a-l-l B-u-s-i-n-e-s-s-e-s and S-c-h-o-o-l-s and T-o-w-n-s-h-i-p-s who D-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-e-l-y need that Money. Rather than P-a-y T-h-e-m ... She runs a $200 Million Dollar campaign into the G-r-o-u-n-d A-t-t-a-c-k-i-n-g Barack Obama with her R-a-c-i-s-t "Kitchen-Sink" Stratergy.
I don't have the Time or Space to point all A-l-l the reasons her campaign is as it is But I do a-g-r-e-e that Senator Clinton is a Victim. She is a V-i-c-t-i-m of her O-w-n U-n-D-o-i-n-g.
I grew up in the South. We have a saying down here: "When You Start Digging a Hole for Somebody Else ... Dig T-W-O!"
Senator Obama would be a F-o-o-l to have Senator Clinton anywhere near his campaign. With his 50 State Stratergy by the time November comes there should 20-30-40 M-I-L-L-I-O-N N-e-w V-o-t-e-r-s! You know ... Voters that many Clinton Supporters have discounted. Plus the 18-19 Million who already voted for Obama.
Hey PUMA ... You Do The Math!
Posted by: T David | July 20, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Senator Clinton does not even have to lift a finger, we will do all of the work. She is by far the most qualified to be Commander In Chief. Obama supporters, I say shame on you! If you want to see a good movie go to a movie, do not try to inflict the empty suit on us. We are a troubled nation, and we need action. We do not need a stream of words to make us feel good. Obama is using all of you contributors and supporters because he needs you. He used Alice Palmer, Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama and even his daughters, because he needed them for one reason on another. Alice Palmer, to start his career in politics, Hillary to set his agenda's (he always used her solutions, that's why she was always first), Michelle because he thought she would help create a more electable candidate, and his daughters for the same reason. After stupidly using them, he then changed his mind. That brings me to "change", I do not need to explain that because we have seen what he means by that word. O supporters, why don't you judge him on his record? Hillary Clinton 2008!
Posted by: Joflorida | July 20, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Do we need any more proof that the Clintons are never going to be trusted or be wholeheartedly for Obama? They will seek every opportunity to keep Hillary's Presidential ambition alve, and may even try to sabotage Obama all the way to November and beyond so they can have an early chance to go for it again. Forget the VP talk! Obama is playing with the devil; intertaining the idea after all that have gone on imay be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
Posted by: Dr. Sam | July 20, 2008 at 02:08 PM
Why can't people see just how evil and vindictive the Clintons are. I am amazed that so few people are informed...read, read. Ask the women she smeared because of Bill...
Posted by: Brady | August 26, 2008 at 08:12 AM