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Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here

(UPDATE: Alan Keyes stoked the Obama birth certificate controversy anew in February 2009. See Ticket coverage here.)

[See August update here.]

Click on the certificate to enlarge for better reading.

First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.

That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.

McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in theBarack Obama's birth certificate copy as released by his presidential campaign in June 2008 Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.

More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.

Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.

Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.

The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.

(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")

--Andrew Malcolm

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That looks nothing like a real birth certificate.

Where is the doctor's name? Where is the father's occupation and the mother's occupation? And his father's race is African??? Negro or Negroid was the proper term in 1961.

This is a pathetic forgery. I suspect he is not a natural born citizen and is therefore cannot run for President.

DIG DEEPER - there is more to this story

yes it was made electronically.

Look down in lower left corner it says "LASER".
I was in high school in 1961 and lasers wewre a laboratory curiosity then.

so it was printed recently. Thats how they issue them these days.

Go to fact check dot org to see photos of the raised seal and registrar's signature.

It's a pretty convincing photo there.

Now look at lower right of birth certificate where it says:
"HRS 338-13(b) , 338-19"

anybody bother to look into that?

HRS stands for Hawaii Revised Statutes, i.e. Hawaii's laws.
Section 338 deals with vital statistics like birth certificates.
It says, among a lot of other things, that the department can issue electronic copies of certificates.

I have no doubt that what the campaign posted is an officiall certificate that was made electronically by Hawaii's department of birth certificates, and the campaign really got it from Hawaii's department of birth certificates.

But,,,, so as to not disappoint you conspiracy buffs,,,
there is a section in HRS338 that says upon request from a law enforcement agency the department will issue a certificate containing whatever information the law enforcement agency wants. That certificate will not replace the original and will have a different number.
So anybody with even modest connections could get a genuine phony birth certificate officially issued from Hawaii and probably any other state too.

So have fun, you guys! Look up those statutes yourself.

If the term African was common terminology on birth certificates in 1961, Hawaii should have many more birth certificates that say African instead of Negro.

the document is not a birth certificate...

1. typesetting is from a computer, not a typewriter
2. there is no void or other identification that would be present after any modern document is digitized. try to scan your car title, or photo copy it.
3. it looks much too clean, my birth certificate is from 1972 and I can barely read it.
4. there is no hospital name or doctors signature
5. there are no signatures of witnesses
6. the faint blue imprint is 2007 backwards, this is not a birth certificate
7. what does his passport state as his place of birth?
8. for a birth abroad it will state the foriegn country.
9. if this is all true he has forged federal documents and stands to go to prison for a very long time.
10. of course he is not cooperating he is a lawyer.

Persons joining the US Military have to produce a birth certificate, but the person running for Commander-In-Chief of the US Armed Forces does not have to produce the same??? I personally have no respect for a person that tries to hide things from the people he is potentially going to lead.

Ok, so let'e throw out the birth certificate for a second because for every person who thinks it's real, there is someone else who thinks it's a fake.

If this Socialist smooth talking con-man had nothing to hide, then why have they also conveniently forgotten what hospital Barack was born in? I have a son and let me tell you, watching him come into this world was the most amazing experience I have ever been a part of, and I will NEVER forget the hospital or anything else about that day for as long as my memory serves me.

All you lemmings out there that are satisfied with a candidate with 143 days of experience and a history of questionable relationships should at least have the intelligence to understand that if you can't prove in 2 min that you are legally able to run for the highest office in the world then something stinks worse then Barney Frank's armpits.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

It does not say that you are a natural born citizen if your parents' are citizens of the United sattes but that you must be born on US territories. Or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution because America was not yet a country and anyone that was age eligable would have been born in British colonies and not US terrritory.

This reporter has no knowledge of the constitution and should be fired for writing such an article with no factual substance. Jon McCain could not be president if he was born on mars unless mars is US territory. It has nothing to do with his Parents' being citizens.

What a joke! Trying to bring people to your site by perpetrating lies. Oh wait, that's liberal media...

My hawaiian birth certificate is yellow....

There is not a really true birth certificate anywhere that proves that Obama is a natural born American. Why is it not available for all of us to see.Is Obama a real American? Does he have a Visa or passport and did he show a birth certificate to get either. I just want someone to let me know.

I would have to agree that the so called Barack Obama’s birth certificate indicated above is not real. There is no indication of a Notary Seal imprint that would authenticate this so called birth certificate. The above copy is a real good copy they claim to be Obama’s birth certificate. I have had to make many copies of birth certificates over the years and the copies I get generally show the imprint and/or markings of the Notary Seal. If you are going to try to convince me the above is true, you will need to do a better job than this. Try again

You have a few things wrong.
You are not a citizen simply if your mother is.

Obama's mother did not meet the qualifications for that exception.

She was too young and had not lived in the U.S. for the required number of years.

She was only 17 or 18 and had lived outside the US for too many years.

In other words, if Obama was in fact born in Kenya, he is not eligible to be US President.

Oh Please. Obama was obviously born in Hawaii...

Anyway I sent an email to the campaign to send me the name of the doctor that delivered Obama to the world. We intend on making a donation to charity in the name of the man that brought Obama to the world for us.

I just came across this on a search.

Why are some people so stupid? Do these people really believe this nonsense or any they just trying to sway the gullible? You can order a copy of your birth certificate from the government and it's still valid. My mom lost my original birth certificate years ago, and I had to order another one to get a job.

I guess I'm not a natural born US citizen because I only have a copy of my birth certificate that wasn't printed in the year I was born.

How idiotic.

All birth certificates have original copies on file with the County registrar. It that thing is genuine then the original must still be there. If it is not where it should be then it is a fake. That should be easy to check out. I would not put any lie past Obama.

Obama is much more Arabic than he is black. Since his family comes from Kenya, that means that the chances are good that one of his ancestors was a slave trader. If they can hold it against you if one of your distant relatives owned slaves then what can they say about someone who had ancestors who was involved in the slave trade?

If this is an official birth certificate, I will tattoo "Obama for President" on my forehead. Where are the signatures... Mother, Father and delivery Doctor?

Copies of birth certificates are certified and signed by the clerk that has produced the certificate. The word "laser" and "revision" of form (11/01) meaning this was printed on a form that was formated/created in 2001, at the bottom left hand corner of certificate clearly shows this as a "new" forgery.

I wonder if Obama's first three digits of his Social Security number matches Hawaii

It is my understanding that this was tried against Barry Goldwater when he ran for President in 1964. Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was still a territory -- before it became a state.

My understanding of U.S. citizenship laws is that a child born to two U.S. citizens ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD is a "natural born American" for purposes of the Constitutional requirement for President. The Constitution only intended to exclude persons who might have divided loyalties.

Therefore, if Obama was born in Kenya, it is not enough that Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen. BOTH of his parents would have had to have been U.S. citizens for him to qualify as a "natural born American".

I don't know about document forging so, let's say this document is not altered and is an original print.

That would make whoever produced the document in an original form a criminal for falsifying a document, and this is not the legal birth certificate of Barack Obama.

Why you ask?

The answer is simple... Many of you who say this is a legal birth certificate from 1961 are unaware of a few things. One, is that the political correctness that exists today did not exist in 1961! Obviously, look at history.

That being said "African" was not a term used to describe anyone legally or socially in 1961. Again read any history book! The legal term in 1961 to describe a "colored" (social term in 1961) person was "negroe" or "negro". This document is falsified! You can not deny or change the reality of history! Even if you really "hope" to do so.

And why is Obama's campaign sending a defense team to refuse the viewing or investigation of the existence of his legal birth certificate?

I don't know for a fact if Barack Obama was born in the USA or not. I do know this document is falsified.

In order for a certificate of birth to be considered original it must be signed by the county health officer and have a health department seal which resembles a notary seal. I don't see evidence of either on the form shown above. Maybe Ben LaBolt could explain that.

Odd. My two Stepsons were born in Honolulu in 1961 and their official birth certificates don't look at all like this one. You would think the forgery would at least be based on the correct design.

FYI to everyone. This posted birth certificate is authentic. This BC is a copy provided by the Health Dept in Hawaii. My guess is that someone from the Obama family requested a copy on June 2007, as stamped on the back of the BC shows. The machine that embosses the BC also stamps the date on the back of the BC at the same time. The signature of the State Registrar is on the back. To be 100% sure that this BC is not fake. The Obama camp should provide the copy of the back of the BC.

Maybe his Honolulu grandmother has the hospital certificate - If she can get up from under the bus to find it -

Please, I was born in 1960 in NY and my birth certificate looks nothing like this. this is obviously a current document. I would like to see another original 1961 Hawaii birth certificate side by side for comparison.

This is a "certificate of live birth" which is issued instead of the original. Usually in cases of adoption.

Also, wasn't Barrack's birth name Barry?

Different states have different looking birth certificates.

A "certificate of live birth" has nothing to do with "adoptions."

Barry was Barack's nickname in high school -- it was not his birth name.

The type IS very modern such as would appear on Obama's SISTER's who actually was born in Hawaii in the 1970s. FAKE is good enough for the Democrats who will also take ANY KIND of a vote...dead people, felons, illegal aliens, hobos,....anybody!

Perhaps the "African" was because his father is from AFRICA... OMG.. what a concept.

I do not have a copy of my original birth certificate as my parents and I have moved at least three dozen times since I was born thanks to the Air Force.

My BC that I got from Vital Statistics in SC states "Certificate of Live Birth" and it worked to get my passport, and so does the BC's I have for my children, that I got from Vital Statistics in WA. Give me a break.

In fact, you have to provide a copy of your BC to get your passport, which he obviously has since he went to Kenya awhile back... so why doesn't the court just go check that file? Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

It is interesting that he would rather hire a lawyer than simply produce an original certified copy of his birth cert.

Even with this cert, Barak later became a citizen of Indonesia when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and enrolled in school there. Indonesia didn't allow for dual citizenship therefore he would have to apply for naturalization here in the US.

For all of you who do not care about this matter, it speaks to his character. Is this the sort of man you trust to have to tackle this fiscal crisis and other crises that come up during his administration.?

Seriously folks, our founding fathers exhibited a great deal of wisdom in drafting our constitution. We ought to respect the limits on who is eligible to serve in the highest office in the land.

He isn't the messiah, he is just a guy with a little bit of experience in politics, lots of high powered friends, and a good deal of charisma. His resume' to date has been focused on his own personal achievement. What in the hell makes you think that he really wants to solve your problem? This is ALL about him. Get your head out of the fog and figure out which of these two men has lived a life of service. If you aren't sure let me help.…it isn't Barack Hussein Obama.

I have to agree with "its not about the birth". Bush and the repubs have made some mistakes. Keep in mind though that a presidents power is in the veto of what Congress votes on, and even that veto can be overturned. Which party has been ruling in congress for the past few years?
In addition, which party refuses to apoligize for slavery? The dems! The deplorable conditions in black neighborhoods is well-documented by black Democrat Juan Williams in his book Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America. Democrats have the audacity to blame Republicans for the crisis in black neighborhoods created by the Democrats.
the Democratic Party was sued in 2005 by inner-city minister Rev. Wayne Perryman for that party’s 200-year history of racism. Faced in court with the results of Rev. Perryman’s year-long historical research, the Democrats admitted their racist past. However, using an army of highly-paid lawyers, the Democrats escaped accountability on a legal technicality and refused to apologize.
Facts about the Democratic Party’s racist past can be found in books such as Unfounded Loyalty: An In-depth Look into The Love Affair Between Blacks and Democrats by Rev. Wayne Perryman, A Short History of Reconstruction by Dr. Eric Foner, Bamboozled by Angela McGlowan and Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party's Buried Past by Bruce Bartlett.
Undeniably, during the civil rights era of the 1960's, it was the Democrats who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protestors were fighting. Democrat Public Safety Commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor in Birmingham let loose vicious dogs and turned skin-burning fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators. Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox famously brandished ax handles to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant. In 1954, Democrat Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of a Little Rock public school. Democrat Alabama Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963 and thundered, "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." All of these racist Democrats remained Democrats until the day they died.

The chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, filibustered against the bill for 14 straight hours before the final vote. None of these racist Democrats became Republicans. Senator Byrd is still a prominent leader in the Democrat-controlled Congress where he is honored by his fellow Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate.”
The above information came from http://www.nbra.info/
I encourage you to read it for yourself.
Now, what I do not understand is why so many African Americans still vote for the party that has always held them back. the above information

Oblivious a fake!

If you notice the revision date on the document it shows (rev.11/01). This would indicate 2001 not 1961. This birth cert was clearly done after 11/2001. I've done a lot of genealogy and these are things we look for.

Why are we arguing whether it is the original birth certificate? Of course it's not. Many people don't have original birth cerficates. People usually get copies of their birth certificate from the city they were born in. I was born in 1974, but I have a copy of my birth certificate that was issued by the city of Bangor in 2002. Does that make my birth certificate invalid? Of course not. Barack Obama's copy of his birth certificate is just as valid as a birth certificate of anyone else that gets a copy of theirs from the city they were born in.

Excuse me, but I have a friend who was born on a military base in Germany and he was not a US Citizen by virture of birth to an American.

I do not believe that Obama is a citizen and I assure you his actions prove he is not an American. The recent deportation of a journalist from Kenya, proves there are secrets in Kenya.
Obama needs to provide an official birth certificate, not a duplicate. Just one more lie and dark secret for a very satanic man.
God help us!!

Given the big $$$ that has been behind Barack for years, it would be easy for anything they want to be put into Hawaii's public records. I would be interested to see the birth announcements in the local papers or from the hospital itself. Has anyone thought to check the local libraries over there for old newspapers?

what i have a problem understanding is

1. the document is a copy of original, no one would want to keep and maintain their original, what happens if you lose it (no one could prove who you are)(

2. the document i saw had the raised seal of hawaii, the serial number of the document, the signature of the the comm of dept of health, are you saying this person did not authenticate the document before he released it?

3. my understanding is that in hawaii at the time, it was not unusual to ask the parents what race they are, at the time obamas father is said to have placed african on the document, last time i checked, it was legal, why would that man call himself black on negro? makes no sense that every person coming to america has to adopt your ways, especially if they are staying for a short period of time, the man wanted to be called an african, so what????

4there is no way i am going to believe that all people have time to do is come up with this craziness.

5. my challenge to anyone that believes the document is a fake, go to the building of vital statistics and get your own, see what they hand you back

in most states (like hawaii) they give you a short copy of your vital information, most people do not want a copy of all their information to be seen, if you want to see obamas birth certificate, i challenge you to request to see mccains military records, that recently sealed for the next 20 years

he claims to be a war hero and doesnt want anyone to see his military records?

i wonder what that is about

Why would anyone vote for a president that they know so lilttle about that they need to see a copy of his birth certificate? Wake up- he has a brother living very poor in Kenya that he has not bothered to help. If you dont take care of your own family, I doubt you can fix the world. When have you even see any friends of his come forward to vouch for him.? All we know about him is what he says. We have so little proof that we debate a birth certificate. Doesn't he even have aunties, or neighbors, or even a family friend? What kind of person gets so famous suddenly that not even an his old classmates come forward to say he is a great guy. Did his family have any friends that were at his birth? We dont even know where in Hawaii he lived. It seems that we would see a hometown be proud of him. Not a peep from anyone to say they grew up with him. THat is why we need more disclosure for such an important decision.

Uhhh....Look at the date on the bled through stamp on the bottom...Jan 6, 2007???????????

I may be wrong but wasn't his birth name Barry????? just a question

Whoever wrote this article needs to learn proper English. No one can serve as "president" of the United States. He can serve as "the President" or "a president" but not "president."

Also, a later sentence says, "Same rule would apply as for McCain." That's not even a complete sentence! Why don't you just start writing in Ebonics?

What birth certificate is without a signature? Can the FBI, not check him out and go to the registrar's to see if they have a record. BO would also need to have hospital records found for him
To be born on a US military base would be akin to being born in the US embassy.
Perhaps it has never been found necessary to show one's birth certificate when running for presidency.It is not rascism that it is asking for BO's credentials. I know which hospital I was born in and i am older than BO. There are people alive who know I was there and all my records.

do you really think seeing that 'birth certificate' settles this ? it's not real! it's not even signed ! puleeeze!!!

Cmon people. If the Obama folks were going to make a fake BC, don't you think they have the resources to make a fake one that looks more "real" to you?

Think. Jesus.

But if you are against him for being black or having a Kenyan father anyway, it wouldn't matter to you.

Were is Obama’s birth certificate?

I thought to be president in the USA you have to show your birth certificate to prove were you are born and your age. At this point he can fake his unless we have good people to find the truth. Also I would like to know more about the Accords “ I do not know if I spelled it right?” The “group” Obama is involved in, I was told they are against Americans and his wife has said she “now” likes America. I would like the lady beside the present to have always been proud to be an American. This is just “food for thought” and my opinion, but this is America and my opinion does count.

Why is the Certification Number block? Hmmmmmmm?

It is more than likely this document is authentic. It is not at all uncommon for people to lose or have their birth certificate destroyed. When I requested a certified copy of my birth certificate after it was destroyed I received a certified copy very similar to this copy. I did inquire as to why there was no signature or stamp attesting to it's authenticity and I was told that was not done on a cerified copy because; 1. The cerified copy does not require a signature because it contains only factual imformation contained on the 'original' birth certificate and only the 'original' has a signature affixed. 2. All information contained on the certified copy. if questioned, can be verifed, by the registrar and/or recorder via the Certificate Number which references the original information recorded in the Registrars/Clerks records.

Also, it's not uncommon for celebrities, politicians or well known people to "black out" the Certificate Number when releasing copies of their Birth Certificate
for publication.

Lastly, why would the Obama campaign release a "fake" copy of a birth certificate containing information which can easily be verified as fact or fiction? I have no idea why a group of lawyers would challenge Obama's citizenship. However, the Federal Election Commission has verified his eligibility and qualifications to run for the presidency. There are those who will always create doubt and hope the loons will believe it simply because they've created a bogus doubt. Sometimes we just have to think for ourselves ... logically and without the 'sway' of others. It's not rocket science.

Are you guys for REAL!!!???

You think a birth certificate hasn't been shown on numerous occasions?

One can always order an official birth certificate from the county or city where you are born. It will be printed when you order it.

These pointless attempts to undermine a candidate's legitimacy show why we need a consensus builder like Obama. In spite of all the hate being spread out there, this man clearly has an even hand that will be our only chance to actually bring America together.

Barack Obama would be the first BIRACIAL American President, not white, not black, and def. not ARAB. Please be politically correct.

 
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