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Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here

(UPDATE: Alan Keyes stoked the Obama birth certificate controversy anew in February 2009. See Ticket coverage here.)

[See August update here.]

Click on the certificate to enlarge for better reading.

First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.

That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.

McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in theBarack Obama's birth certificate copy as released by his presidential campaign in June 2008 Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.

More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.

Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.

Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.

The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.

(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")

--Andrew Malcolm

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Obama's birth certificate:
Hmmm, This is a laser printer form that was revised in 2001...see lower left corner of "certificate". It was printed somewhere around June of 2007...note date stamp bleeding through to the front from the back.

Many have mentioned the lack of a state seal and signatures...sharp eyes. I was born abroad and have to order duplicates of my birth certificate from the State Department...Always a seal and signatures, including the fact that I was not born in a hospital. However, I still have my original German birth certificate

"How could a birth certificate from 1961 be laser printed on a form revised in 11/01? This is obviously not an authentic photocopy of the original birth certificate. Why can't we see that one?"

When you have to order a replacement copy from the VITAL STATISTICS depmt. of the state in which the birth occurred, fool. Of course they wouldn't still be using paper & forms from 1961.

I worked in a Vital Statistics office at the time of this birth, and one thing is certain: The original birth certificates were black and white, and were an odd size that do not correspond with modern (current) paper sizes.

We were in constant contact with OTHER Vital Statistic offices and we had "blank" samples of all other states sample birth certificates, and none of them looked like this modern rendition.

There is no doubt that this is a new, modern, and "reconfigured" copy.

There was no tamper-proof green paper; we had black and white pads. We did not have computers; they were unheard of at the time. In fact, we typed the birth certificates on MANUAL typewriters.

Also, his father would not have been described as "race / African" which means that there has been some tampering with wording.

What else has been tampered with?

Participation in this idiotic back and forth argument over the birth certificate is both saddening and enraging. Maverick and the Stepford wife are completely out of touch with the real world, and if they make it to the White House it would be tragic - yet not surprising. EVERYONE in America is an immigrant unless you're a native with ancestors from a tribe before this land was "discovered" by Columbus. The name of this land isn't even America for that matter, it's whatever it was called before individuals came her looking for freedom, the ability to practice any religion they saw fit, and to live in a democracy that is not controlled by people who simply were born into the role. It's time we wake up. No matter how many fake or authentic documents you post, insults you write, or credentials you mock, my opinion will not change. Here is why. My grandfather was Calvin Darden, and he and my grandmother Dorothy bought a nice house on the south side of Chicago around 1971. My grandfather worked at the steel mill on 103rd and Torrence for many years, although I don't know how many since they are both deceased. My grandmother worked for Spiegel in the catalog department, and his salary basically paid the bills. The community organizer which many so rudely mock reached out to my grandfather and others who were too old (no offense to seniors, but back then if you were over a certain age nobody was going to hire you) to get another job that came anywhere close to the one he had in relation to compensation. We lost everything. We went from comfortable to poverty. Barack Obama used what he had. His education and knowledge of the law, faith and humanity to inspire hope in a hopeless situation for my grandfather and many of his ex-coworkers. His support of total strangers and their plight angered him and he EMPOWERED everyday people to have the faith in themselves to hold on a little longer. As a people, we are viewed abroad as bullies. As frivolous spenders. As arrogant, so arrogant that even though English is required learning in every school around the world, we don't even bother to require Spanish and French in our schools with Mexico and Canada as our neighbors. It's time to look past your own little yard if you're lucky enough to have one in the state of our country. What we need is a leader that is not afraid to deal with the everyday problems that people face to feed their families and have a decent life. Organizing in my community where I was directly affected is small, unimportant, and stupid to Soccer Mom and Maverick. For me, I had to live it, and it meant everything for my family. On a larger scale, Senator Obama has my complete confidence in translating his community work, his conviction, and his experiences within his total life to bring a sense of renewed respect and admiration to our country on a global scale.

A person born in another country of one American parent is not automatically considered American--it has to be both parents.

Had Obama been born in Kenya he wouldn't be an American, even with an American mother.

Folks seems to be obsessed with Obama's birth certificate. Is this going to be another conspiracy theory, like the 9/11 or fake moonlandings?

If it's such a big issue, check with Hawaiin authorities.

If folk don't want to vote for Obama - don't vote for him. But don't shroud your partisanship in quasi-conspiratorial garbage.

If you examine the lower lefthand corner, you will see that the revision mark indicates 11/01. Having worked with Government documents for over 20 years, I can tell you with certainty that this means November 2001. That would appear to contradict his brithdate 40 years earlier. A true photostatic copy would look completely different in terms of document quality and form date. This birth certificate, in my opinion, is a fake.

I came from Hawaii and I have a news for you people. Obama's birth certificate is real. My husband has one, and so my two daughters. The color of the birth certificates are green. The Hawaii seal is on the space below of the certificate. Its hard to see but you can feel it and it's there. On the back it says, "I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health" and signed by the State Registrar person. The blocked out part is the CERTIFICATION NO. All the letters on the certificate are all CAPITAL LETTERS except the dates of registrar and was issued. Everything that you see on Obama's birth certificate are the real thing. When you request a copy this is what you get. The size is little bit bigger than 8 x10. On my husband certificate is little bit difference because he was born on 1957. During at that time Hawaii is not part of the United States of America yet. Hawaii was the Territory of Hawaii and that's mean -Hawaii's had its own government.. Hawaii became the 50th states in the year of 1959. Ladies and gentlemen stopped all this argument. If you do not want to vote for Obama and don't- just leave him alone. I think he is going to be a good president. I am a Republican but this time I am going to vote for him. I am tired of this administration, the struggling economy, gas prices and etc.

they said that Hawaii puts its seal on the back. Why don't they just show front and back images and that should put an end to it.

I was U.S. military, and was married to a German. Our son, born in a German civilian hospital IS a U.S. citizen. I have his birth certificate and citizenship documents from the American Consul's office in Frankfurt stating so, and it is within arms reach at this moment.

Those of you blathering on like chana_batata above are clueless dolts who think the www has all of the answers magically presented to them.

More interesting than the BC is the fact that in his 20's Obama traveled on an Indonesion passport; which in order to obtain he would have had to renounce his US Citizenship since Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. hmmmm.... I would like to hear more about the citizenship issue based on the passport rather than the birth certificate.

This isn't the original birth certificate, it's a document to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii, issued recently by the State. If it's real, it would be enough evidence to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii, and therefore a citizen, and therefore eligible to be president. It doesn't have to be folded or on original paper or showing an emobssed seal. If it was printed in 2007, it could have been obtained during a visit by Obama himself to Hawaii (since according to Hawaii law only a family member can get a document certifying one's birth). It could plausibly have been stuck in a file somewhere and only unearthed for publication when the controversy started back in June. It *was* scanned in very crisply, with perfect right angles, but this could have been done by a tech-savvy staffer (of whom Obama has many), who then used Photoshop to blank out the certificate number for privacy reasons (instead of a pen, since you don't want to destroy the original). All this last part is odd, but possible and not proof of anything untoward.

There are two interesting things about this document that haven't been mentioned, however:

1. Prior to 1968, Hawaii state law stated that all citizens born in Hawaii needed to list "a Christian name" on their birth documents. "Barack Hussein" would not have been accepted by the Hawaii state registrar at the time. As painful as this seems to us today, it was regarded by many as an acceptable regulation at the time, espeically so soon after statehood, where being "American" and was so important to so many in Hawaii, and during the height of the Cold War that had only a few years before brought us "Unamerican Activities" committees.

Test: can anyone provide a scan of a Hawaii state birth certificate from 1961 featuring a "non-Christian" first name? If so, then it is possible that this particular law wasn't consistently observed or enforced, and the data on the certificate could be legitimate.

2. In 1961, the term for a man of African descent customarily used in state documents was "Negro," not African. Americans in 1961, and particularly public officials in Hawaii - which has never had a significant black population - were almost certainly not enlightened enough at the time to make the racial distinction between "black person from Africa" and "black person from anywhere else" and list his father as African. Again, as politically incorrect as this may seem to us now, it was very much culturally "normal" in 1961.

Test: can anyone provide a scan of another Hawaii state birth certificate from 1961 for someone with a black parent where the "race" was listed as something other than "Negro"? If so, then it may be proof that some Hawaiian birth registrars had some nuances in their racial sterotypes.

If someone can provide samples of other certificate documents like the ones above, these concerns may be meaningless. If not, either the document is real, and very strange, or it's a forgery, done by someone whose 21st century cultural assumptions - and lack of knowledge of Hawaii law - is giving them away.

His Mom's name was "Stanley?" Wow, they didn't mention that in the documentary I watched the other night. It seems that his parents were not married when they found out he was on the way. I didn't catch the location where he was born, however, his father was African and not from Hawaii. Seems they met in Europe. (He only visited with Barak in Hawaii for one month when he was around 10 - 12.)

Whether "Stanley" moved there before or after B.O. jr. was born is the question. I actually thought they tried to work things out before all of the family racial stresses (from BOTH sides) got too bad. The story made it sound like his parents were really in love, so it's hard to believe that B.O. Sr. would treat her so awfully and leave her before the birth.

This birth certificate looks like something I could make with my own computer. It looks really fake, so now I am really wondering if there is some secret being covered up.

FYI:

According to the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 USC)that was in place when McCain was born :
2 US Citizens = 1 US Citizen child. This is under the stipulation that at least 1 Parent had resided in the US or a US Territory for ANY length of time OR 1 Parent had NOT resided and the OTHER was a member of the US Armed Forces stationed overseas. Since McCain had 2 US Citizens for Parents and BOTH had lived in the US at some time AND his Father was stationed in Panama as a member of the US Armed Forces when McCain was born he is more than covered as a US Citizen!!!
I know, being a former US Border Patrol Agent we were taught these laws in Nationality Law Class. As far as Obama is concerned, the supposed birth in Hawaii would
do the trick and he is eligible to be elected President. If Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia with one USC parent it would be trickier to figure out. If his Father was still married to another woman, he would be illegitimite and his citizenship would fall solely on his Mother. It still
falls solely on his Mother because BOTH Father and Stepfather are NOT USC's anyhow. ONLY Obama knows whether there is fraud involved or not...

I can't believe this. Not everyone holds their ORIGINAL birth certificate. It's called a copy the state gives you in case you lose the original. I have a copy from California and they ALL LOOK DIFFERENT. It just depends on where you were born. THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL LOOK FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES, PEOPLE!

PLUS, you think he would be allowed to go this far in the campaign if he had a faked certificate?

His mother was also American, so he was American no matter where he was born.

I just have to keep reminding myself that YES, people are this stupid. The average IQ in the US is 100. HALF of the people in this country have below average IQs.

Hence, the absolute thickness cursing most of these posters.

Kay...you obviously did not watch the show properly or have problems listening. I watched it and they clearly mentioned on a number of occasions that Obama's dad was a student at University of Hawaii. They even had one of the fathers' lecturer on the show. Obama was born in Hawaii. The certificate is a replacement. I have one replacement certificate and it looks the same. It did not have the seal because I already have my passport. They just stamped the date. You do not need your birth certificate for any official business if you already have your passport. Wake up people. If it was fake, don't you think the republicans would have parade it long time ago?

Gosh, I never thought the IQ of US citizens would be this low. Somehow they are all gathered here.

#1 As a employee for the State of California (Dept. of Motor Vehicles) the issuing of a driver's license or even a simple I D card for Barak would NOT be allowed using this certificate. In fact, this would be a red-flag certificate and would be immediately sent to the fraud unit of our department. #2 having both of my parents born and raised in the state of Hawaii, and also having access to an actual REAL birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, I can assure you this is a fake certificate. I just find it appauling that this would be "fed" to us (as if we're so unintelligent to believe it's real) in such a way that only makes me wonder what else this party is lying about. #3 As a sister who has a brother serving our WONDERFUL country in the Military, who has a wife who had to actually do some HARD work in getting her citizenship for this country (of which she was not born) But who ACTUALLY BECAME A LEGAL CITIZEN and their daughter who was born on a Military base outside the U.S. is by law of any standards A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States of America. Barak Obama bin laden or Barak saddom hussein Obama, Whatever his name is has not come up with a green card from his mother, or even a passport with an I-94 for that matter (see, I do know what I'm talking about) and his father is in know way a natural born citizen or a legal citizen of the United States of America. I mean, he (Barak) doesn't even KNOW his dad (Yean, he has a father from Kenya) but Barak was 10 years old a long time ago, and as a person having family ALSO in Hawaii during Barak's office there, I know things from another point of view. Besides, KNOWING YOUR FATHER and just having a father is very much TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. So by any standards of law Barak is NOT a NATURAL born citizen of the United States of America.. . .I mean Good Lord, he doesn't even salute our flag or recite the Pledge of Allegiance, but yet wants to be Commander and Chief of our GREAT NATION!!

Well, there it is, proof positive (more or less) that Barack Obama is trying to pass for Black.
Why? Because being seen as Black, just like being seen as gay, makes life so much easier here in these United States.
That's why we are being flooded by wannabes trying to pass.
It's disgusting that there are so many straight people pretending to be gay, and yes, I'm looking at you Richard Simmons.

I believe one telling feature that it is a fake is I don't believe any State agency would list a person's race as AFRICAN. Think logically - Africa is a continent containing many countries - I don't think that would have been an acceptable category. I believe he would have been listed as "black" or whatever term was acceptable at that time. Why not ask some cooperative individuals with a similar situation for their birth certificates for comparison - if they are wary, just blank out their name for privavy.

I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet about his birth certificate...but is Honolulu its own country now...shouldn't the country portion read United States? Also in 1961 they would not have referred to race as African...seriously...if I was going to have something like a birth certificate forged I would have picked someone a bit more professional...where is the seal and also the signature indictating that this is indeed an official birth certificate...not only that but they must have sent him his birth certificate in one of those jumbo envelopes because there are no creases indicating that it was ever in an envelope...who knows maybe he personally picked it up himself...whatever...I've got to say though...I dont buy this poor excuse for an 'Official' Birth certificate...my birth certificate looks much different than that, I must say...any 'Professional' looking at that and justifying it as a 'real' birth certificate has to be an idiot, with a low IQ I might add. Are you sure the people looking at that graduated high school?

Black does mean a color of skin not as they said black muslim although Obama is not, it's still black, then 50 % this, -50 % that, are we here to to vote for ideas or looking at someone's race. Now Merrill Lynch gone, A.I.G gone, Lehman in bankruptcy, jobs lost and Mc Cain can't give an answer of this because he inherits the Bush policy and even goes beyond by saying the economy is at the best. Do America is so naive at that stage. Patreaus has to go from Iraq after a total failure there. Bush taught he will exploit oil but there's no way this could be done with violence, all money invested their supporting our troops to protects Bush interests resumed to be a shamble and a total disgrace for our nation. Where do Mc Cain and Mrs Palin are preparing us after her ignorance in foreign policy willing to attack Russia, have we got really more energy for another nonsense war, even supporting Georgia, where the money will come from, America is in big trouble, wake up and put aside your belief in party and read the programs. Do Mc cain really a better choice, I will go for Obama so far

John McCain was born in a Military hospital, on a military base, both of his parents were American Citizens. This makes him a natural born citizen. "Natural born" because military bases are considered American soil. Even if you believe he isn't qualified to be our president what are you saying to other Americans in the Armed forces. That they better plan their childrens births so its in america. These people sacrifice a lot for the rest of us the least we can do is give their children natural born status.

if this is an official certificate let's make sure we don't loose it. it say's at the bottom it is official in a court. remember the last democrate president president we had?

With this type of evidence, I can prove that Bin Laden was born in New York. If someone disagrees....simply pull your own birth certificate and see the amount of information and required signatures (especially attendant at birth/MD).....State seal.....and even signature of mother on my certificate.

BARRACK MAY HAVE BEEN BORN IN HAWAII.....BUT THIS DOCUMENT DOES NOT PROVE IT.

I thought his legal first name was Barry, then had it changed to Barak?

I believe that is his real birth cirtificate, beacuse I have one just like it.

Whats this all these comments about him being black?

So what? better get a good feel for it because he's gonna be our Leader for 4 years and maybe another 4.

Yeah, I remember the last democratic president we had. It was peace-full, no wars, just conflicts in which no US Solder was killed. Cheap gas, we were a proud nation! Fair Taxation, no bottom falling out of the stock market, banks solvent, budget surpluses and we could find our president. Your point Mark?

Andrew, can't you see that this birth certificate is a forgery?
1. The words in the bottom left-hand corner are a dead give-away. Since when were there laser (printers) available in 1961?
2. How come the certificate No. has been blanked out? That's very suspicious.
3. What about the words on the back of this document, which look like July 6 2007. was that the date when another member of Obama's family received a duplicate copy of their own birth certificate, so that Barack Obama could then alter it in his favour.
4. What about the odd little dot at the top to the left of the State of Hawaii seal?
5. The term African is unusual for 1961. "Negro" would be 100% more likely then.

Conclusion: this birth certificate is a forgery & the Muslim (who won't admit it) Obama is a complete FRAUD!

Someone's a little confused.

While it must be upsetting for 'First Arab-American President' that his dream won't come true, 'Muslim' does not automatically mean 'Arab'. Are Southeast Asian Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia Arab? Was Mohammad Ali Arab?

Sorry dude, you really got NO clue what you're talking about.

Who cares what his spokesperson confirms or doesnt confirm? He's a spokesperson not a government agent. He doesn't work for the dmv or the country. He's paid to cover up dimples in his candidates life and make him look perfect. Have a STATE OFFICIAL confirm thats a valid birth certificate and then maybe we can throw some marshmellows on the fire and make some smores. Until then it's a no go and that certificate should be pulled. It's bad journalism to publish unverified documents.

ARE WE LIVING IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE? THE OUTER LIMITS? SOME OF THE POSTS ARE SO UNREAL THAT I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY ARE FROM INTELLIGENT HUMANOID LIFE FORMS! I WOULD EXPECT TO READ SOME OF THIS STUFF ON THE SCI-FI CHANNEL FORUM.

OBVIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE NEED TO INVENT A "LEGITIMATE" REASON TO JUSTIFY THEIR AVERSION TO SENATOR OBAMA, (YES THATS RIGHT HE IS ALREADY A UNITED STATES SENATOR DUELY AND LAWFULLY ELECTED) RATHER THAN CONFESS THEIR RACIAL PREJUDICE, SO THEY TRY TO SMEAR HIM BY SAYING HE IS A MUSLIM AND NOT A US CITIZEN.
THE FACT THAT HIS FATHER WAS MUSLIM, DOES NOT MAKE HIM A MUSLIM ANYMORE THAN THEIR FATHER BEING A MEMBER OF THE KU-KUX-KLAN MAKES THEM A KLAN MEMBER! ALTHO THEY PROBABLY ARE ! OH BY THE WAY! THE REV. 11/01 ON THE BOTTOM OF HIS CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH SIMPLY MEANS THAT THE "FORM" ITSELF WAS REVISED ON THAT DATE NOT THE INFORMATION PRINTED ON IT! THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THAT APPLIES TO SOME OF THESE MORONS
" IT IS BETTER TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND LET PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE A FOOL, THAN TO OPEN IT AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT !

P.S. : IF YOU REALLY WANT THE TRUTH OF THE LEGITIMACY OF HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE GO TO FACTCHECK.COM, THEY HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SAME CERTIFICATE AS SHOWN HERE. IT SHOWS THE RAISED SEAL WHICH HAS TO BE VIEWED AT AN ANGLE IN ORDER TO SEE IT, ALSO THE JUNE 6 2007 DATE ON THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENT IS THE DATE IT WAS SIGNED BY THE REGISTRAR AND IT IS CLEARLY NOT A FORGERY ! THEIR REPORTER GIVES MUCH INFORMATION IN ANSWER TO ANY AND ALL OF THE MANY THEORIES NOTED IN THE POSTS ON THIS SITE!
SO SORRY FOLKS ! IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL NEED TO THINK UP ANOTHER " REASON ' WHY SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

I was born in a hospital on an American military base in W. Germany back in 1957. The birthing room for wives of US military personnel was designated as American soil like a US Embassy by agreement between the US and W. Germany. My father was serving in the US military and both of my parents were US citizens. This was done because back in 1957 as the constitution was then understood, I would not have been able to run for president when I grew up had I been born outside of the US territory. There was no other reason.

My birth papers are in German and signed by a German doctor but that is of no account other than them being the real item.

The article clearly says that Obama is a US citizen by birth in two ways--his mother is a US citizen and he was born in Hawaii.

The form very clearly states that "This copy is prima facie evidence of a fact of birth in any legal proceedings."

In other words, copy or original, it makes no difference. It's an official, legal document verifying place and time of birth.

The CONservatives got nothing, as usual . . .

Yep, it should do the trick. I think that McCain is covered by some retroactive legislation. If you are an original intent kind of person, you'd think McCain had to be born on US soil. That said, he isn't being foisted on us by another country, which is what they wanted to prevent...

FYI --
This issue is still hanging in Federal District Court in Philadelphia, where a local attorney, Philip Berg, filed suit on August 21. The temporary restraiining order (against the DNC) was quickly denied, and on Wed Sept 24th, Obama and the DNC jointly filing a motion to dismiss.

This would be a great opportunity for the Court to effect sancitions against Berg because all facts were well known and capable of being confirmed with HI officials.

We should expect better from an educated attorney, but the stupid thinking from many of the post above is astounding. I guess that if folks read on the Internet that they would live longer if they cut their feet off, that they just might do it. Some folks of course, just won't upon their eyes and read and think for themselves, starting with an open mind.

Sunday Gal has said it all well -- applause

The Constitution is unenforce-able.

The INTENT of the constitution is unenforce-able.

Obama & Biden are lawyers. they knows the constitution isn't the law anymore.

Lawyers are the law. That's why they feel so entitled.

I suggest that most people who read BLOGS and actually believe them go to school and get better educations. First of all, a person does not have to have American Citizens for parents to become a citizen. Through a little process called NATURALIZATION, as long as someone is born on U.S. soil, they are automatically citizens.

Secondly, nice try with the fake birth certificate. Usually in 1961, they weren't 'laser printed' and they tended to have actual addresses on them with more info than this one you're showing here.

What makes me laugh about this whole exciting and at the same time, sad situation, some random person on Myspace sent me a message telling me that I shouldn't vote for Obama because he was born in Kenya and is 2.7% black and 43% Arab or whatever. Then he later tells me that he's not racist. Come on, I'm not even going to explain that one. Funny thing too, he's the one who sent me the link to this blog, which later I had to kindly point out after he called me the lovely "C" word, that blogs are not news, they're people's opinions. And even if he had actually read this blog and BELIEVED it, it says that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Gotta love ignorant people who like to say the "C" word. It's very sad to me that the people in this country are going to look at race and names as the bottom line, instead of actually voting for a good reason, like the fact that Obama is Pro-Choice, which is the number one important factor on my list. This country will vote based on race, and I will be SURPRISED (and very happy) if Obama actually wins.

This is exactly what a replacement Birth Certificate looks like! It cannot be presumed to be fake just because it was printed on modern equipment.

Original birth certificates have lots of information on them- signatures of parents, the obstetrician, the name of the hospital etc. and are usually handwritten.

If the original gets misplaced, however, anyone can write to the department of vital statistics in their birth state and request a duplicate birth certificate. These are nearly always newly-printed certificates that look just like the one above. Yes they are laser printed and missing most of the extraneous information but they are still official copies. I see them all the time at my place of employment.

If you doubt me, go ahead and request a duplicate of your own birth certificate. Odds are that it will strongly resemble the Obama one.

And as Obama Sr. was not a US Citizen but an African, it isn't unusual that his race was listed as such.

FIRST IF YOU HAVE NOT READ 50 ARTICLES ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE GIVE THE RESPECT TO WHOM HAVE.
MR. BARACK H. OBAMA I BELIEVE HAS TRYED TO PULL A FAST ONE ON ALL OF US. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THOUSANDS OF US AWAKE AMERICAN'S THAT DON'T JUST FALL ON THE FLOOR AND BELIEVE HE IS THE BEST THING SINCE "WHITE BREAD" WE QUESTION AND MAKE THE PUZZLE FIT....THIS IS ONE BIG PUZZLE THAT MAKES NOT A BIT OF TRUTH...PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO THE WORK AND AND SHOW ..."ME" ...BO HAS TRICKED YOU ME HIS FRIENDS FAMILY AND MAYBE HIMSELF FOR HE WANTS THIS PRESIDENCY WITH HIS EVERY FIBER AND JUST "CHANGED" A FEW FACTS....NEVER TO BE FOUND OUT...but we did and I want you to prove me and the world....THAT WE ARE WRONG....JUST TRY IT!!!!!!
WAITING...... WERE WAITING.....SHOW US....

To THIS IS A TEST...NOT A JOKE!,

You are a joke, and there's no way anyone could ever convince someone as ignorant as you. The only trick Barack Hussein Obama has played on you is that no matter how much sense he makes, you still don't get it.

AlexM

Dems. have run the house & senate the last 2 years. It was Paulson (d) & the other Lib. dems. who tried to pull a fast one with the 700billion bail out plan (giving acorn a good percentage) ( a pet project for Obama at one point) .....more giving away of tax payers money. It was the Repubs. who put a halt on it siting they needed more protection for the tax payer.

You obama followers are so angry at Bush you can't see stratight. Obama and his crew of Libs. want to turn our country into government dependency.

You guy's are so ready to vote for a "star" your just not seeing what he want's to "change" our country into.

Socailism!!!!!!!!!!

I have studied Obama's birth certificate posted here and discovered a few facts. The type face on the document in its entirety is Verdana some in bold face, using 9,10, 11 pixels all produced using a graphics program. I believe the document was transferred from its original form by the Department Of Human Records and into a computerized form which would account for this. When I pixel edit the document the date Jun 6, 2007 has been stamped on the reverse side of the document. Just above that and slightly to the right is a raised stamp which is hard to see because the imprint isn't that strong. It looks exactly like other Hawaiian birth certificates I examined but the one shown here is in perfect condition. The others had been folded or soiled but then Obama's certificate was printed out June 2007 so it's not that old.

This document was created using a graphics program and the data entered onto it by means of transference. By that I mean the data entry person who entered the information was just simply typing it into a template and then it was saved into a database. When the document is requested later on it is simply printed out and that would explain why the words on the left from top to bottom line up perfectly.

I see no reason to call it a fake.

"Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son."

First, both McCain and Obama are eligible to run. But that's because they were both born in the U.S, McCain in a U.S. territory and Obama in a U.S. state. You can only become a natural-born U.S. citizen (which is required) by being born in the U.S. Your parents have no bearing on this.

Well, if it's true that the mother had to be a US citizen living in the states for 10 years... How would Obama's mother meet this requirement? Hawaii was only became a state in 1959. Only two years before Obama's birth! I think someone should do the math.

You people that say this is fake because its a copy are retarded. Simply retarded. Look at the bottom of the certificate, "this COPY serves..." COPY COPY COPY.
Its a legal COPY. Are you listening? COPY!

Good grief. None of you run fro president okay. Now, back to evaluating the candidates on their policy positions.

If obaba is a citizen and the whole thing is a smear then why hasn't he or the DNC sued Phillip Berg for defamation of character ?

this birth certificate looks like a hastily concocted fake. I looked at my birth certificate and asked my best friend who is african american. Under race, mine says caucasian, and hers says negro. No one was called African for race in 1961.

Concerning the posted graphic offered as a scan of a Birth Certificate, I would suggest a little 'Show-Me' mentality. On the image, click on it. Let the Browser bring-up a slightly enlarged version of it. Then Right click, and save it as a BitMap (BMP) file in some folder. Then view the file in Paint. Click on the Magifying Glass, then click on an area of the image to enlarge an area of the image. Use the Slide bar on either the Right side or the Bottom. Scroll around a little bit. Notice that the boarder is perfect in its alignment. Their are no zig-zags. The same is true for the horizantal alignment of the text.

As Data once said "Such perfection can only be achieved by an artificial intellegence.". To rephrase this: This is not a scan. It was generated on a DeskTop Publisher of some type, character by character. It has never seen light of a printer.

Case closed.

That is so obviously not real. I was around in 1961, and there were no computers. Birth certificates were written by hand! Also, his race would have been listed as black, not African. Since the certificate says it was revised in 1961, it should be obvious to anyone but a sheep that it isn't genuine. WHERE WERE YOU BORN, BARACK, AND WHY CAN'T WE SEE YOUR REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE???

 
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