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Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here

(UPDATE: Alan Keyes stoked the Obama birth certificate controversy anew in February 2009. See Ticket coverage here.)

[See August update here.]

Click on the certificate to enlarge for better reading.

First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.

That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.

McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in theBarack Obama's birth certificate copy as released by his presidential campaign in June 2008 Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.

More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.

Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.

Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.

The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.

(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")

--Andrew Malcolm

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I have a child who has one of the Hawaiian Certificates of Live Birth. In my child's case, it is because he was born in a remote area of the Pacific and does not have a birth certificate.

Anyone born in a Hawaiian hospital at the Mr. Obama was born has a standard birth certificate. The document in the photograph is not a birth certificate.

Try sticking with the facts.

Read this part again people.

"More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth."

And if it went over your head again try it one more time.

"More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth."

1. This certificate is computer generated, No computers in 1961
2. This certificate does Not have the seal of Hawaii
3. This certificate can be duplicated by anybody with good computer skills
4. This certificate says " Certificate of Live Birth" means was not born in US .
5. It Should say "Birth Certificate" if he was born in the US
6. Check it out on google, type Certificate of Live Birth and read.
7. Pelosi and Reid and the Democrats have committed Treason.
8. ON top all he is a Communist.

If you believe this proves Mr. Sotero was born in Hawaii then I have some titanium filled gold bars I would like to show you. Regardless of where he was born, he certainly does not share the values of most Americans. Where is the transparency he promised. His uncle helped to free the Jews at Auschwitz? Not likely, since it was the Russians. Close Guantanamo? Not yet. Bring the troops home from Iraq? Hmmm. Lie upon lie, so why believe anything that comes out of his mouth. He has surrounded himself with a bunch of power hungry, greedy Ashkenazim Jews and they have pulled off a bloodless coup d etat, destroyed the economy and will soon have police forces across America militarized. So speak up now or loose the right to do it later.

Even the fact that a birth certificate was produced. It was a reproduction. Made in 2007, according to your copy.
Obama had access to have one falsely made. Secondly by attending school in Kenya, one must forfeit any other citizenship. Which Obama did. Therefore under the current circumstances Arnold Schwarzenegger is eligible for president

im only 17 yrs old..i HAD to hav a birth certificate..recent shots..and proof of id..just to get into school..so how is president obama get to be president..with a most likely fake birth certificate..

his "birth certificate" looks and IS FAKE...we know it..so why is he pres. oh maybe because people..dont want to know that the president cant be president..or the people fear who he really is, so they hide it.. didnt he have two different names while residing in the U.S. tell me what that means...maybe he has something to hide..u never know...

Ok, let's point out the fact that despite this person's rhetoric, that is NOT a US birth certificate, it is a statement of live birth which does not require proof of brith, just the statement of someone.

IF OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THAN OUR NATION CEASED TO EXIST ON THE VERY MOMENT THAT OBAMA TOOK THE OATH TO BE PRESIDENT. WE , THE PEOPLE ARE UNDER SEIGE BY ENEMY FORCES . A REAL MUTINY AGAINST THE OBAMA REGIME MAY BEGIN TO THE SOULS AND HEARTS OF TRUE AMERICANS . GENERALS , MAJORS, COLONELS AND ALL SOLDIERS MAY AT THE RISK OF THE LIVES TURN AGAINST THEIR OWN ARMY. BUT IN THE END OBAMA WILL RESIGN SMOOTHLY SAYING THAT HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS BORN IN HAWAI .
ONCE OBAMA IS FINISHED AMERICA WILL NEED A FIERCE WARRIOR AS PRESIDENT TO REGAIN THE OMNIPOTENT POWER OVER THE REST OF THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH. A LEADER THAT WILL FIGHT FIRST AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER. A LEADER THAT WILL PULVERIZE ITS ENEMIES
LEAVING THEM ON THEIR KNEES CRYING AND BEGGING FOR GOD TO HELP THEM. A LEADER THAT WILL MAKE A DEAL WITH CHINA AND RUSSIA AND EUROPE AND ASIA TO WORK OUT AN ECONOMIC SOLUTION AS TO HOW TO HANDLE ALL THE FOSSIL FUEL RESOURCES THAT SHALL BE TAKEN BY FORCE FROM ; SAUDI ARABIA, IRAN , SYRIA, LIBIYA , AND IRAG. NO LONGER WILL WE WORRY ABOUT WHO IS FINANCING AL QUIDA , OR HAMAS OR HEZBOLA OR OTHER ISLAMIC TERRORISTS BECAUSE THAE USA WILL HAVE RIPPED OFF ALL THE OIL
AND NATURAL GAS AND HEROIN FROM AFGHANISTAN . ONCE AMERICA
GOT CONTROL OF THE DEAL THE THE PEOPLE WOULD EITHER COME AROUND OR THEY WOULD BE GIVEN A ONE WAY TICKET TO PARADISE
KIND A DR KAVORKIAN BON VOYAGE . BUT BELIEVE ME IN A COUPLE OF YEARS EVENTHE MOST RADICAL ISLAMIC PRICKS WOULD HANG OUT AND WATCH STAR TREK WHILE BLOWING A BOWL OF HASHISH AND SPOONING DOWN SOME BEN AND JERRYS CHERRYS GARCIA WITH A NICE BOWL OF SPAGETTI AND MEETBALLS AND A COLD COORS MOUNTAIN LIGHT THEN HEAD OUT TO SOME REMOTE CANYONS TO TRY TO BAG A COUGER. THEN AFTER HAVING THE THE FIRST GOOD TIME IN THEIR LIFE I WOULD PRAY

SWEET DREAMS

The problem here is not that the birthers have not seen our President's birth certificate. Its that they are unfamiliar with what is known as a computer generated birth certificate. Even those words sound suspicious and to the conspiracy theorists wearing their tinfoil hats, it looks fake. Having worked in tribal enrollment for a number of years I am familiar with birth certificates. This is exactly what they look like today. Computer generated versions are cheap to produce and reveal very little personal information, unlike older versions and the original on file at the Office of Vital Records. Its time to move on from this sillyness and let this President do what we elected him to do or fail, as the case may be. When the 2012 election rolls around, we'll all have some thinking to do, but it won't be about his name, his race or his birth certificate.

Has any one proven Obama was not born in u.s. territory? is there proof he was born in Africa?

Even if his mother is a citizen of the United States, it does not guarantee him the right to be POTUS. There are many other factors involved. What about his stay in Indonesia? Was his US citizenship denounced? and where is the vault certificate? This man is a fraud. His team is a fraud, The whole federal government is a fraud. Follow the trail and it ends at money.

Two years and the debate goes on. I was born in New York, in Bay Shore on Long Island. I have a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth.

There is only one birth certificate issued at the time of birth and if you request a copy, you get a certificate of live birth. Certificate means certified. They are certifying that there is a birth certificate on file with whatever department of vital statistics.

I applied for my driver's license with the certificate of live birth. I applied for my passport with the same document.

This document was printed on a form that was revised on November 2001 (lower right hand corner). Obviously it was issued after the date of birth (40 years minimum). But it is still a valid document as it has the issuing stamp on it.

Where you were born does not matter as long as one parent is a US citizen. You can actually qualify for dual citizenship if born in another country.

You people have got to give it a rest. I am not thrilled with him as president, but I look to what he is doing, not where he was born. Don't you think the Republican party would have made a fuss about his citizenship if he really was not a natural born citizen? That would have been their biggest ace in the hand.

It looks awfully modern. My LA County birth certificate from the same era was a black background with white, typewritten names/date, etc.

none

I can't believe there are so many people who really believe that he got away with a fake certificate, don't you think someone in Hawaii would have let the cat out of the bag by now, they haven't, so why this whining? www.dotaichi.com

on a real birth certificate of that time, has the word negroe not african. he is on record as using more than one ssn, his current as being that of a man born in 1898. goes to show the govt will do anything to get what they want out of this country...

This is NOT a birth certificate ! It is a certificate of live birth , which is not the same . And it is a FORGED colb . ie. NOT REAL . There is substantial proof that Barry Soetoro aka Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya . Her name eludes me ( a black congresswoman ) from CA stated that he was born in Kenya , live in a town meeting over health care . Michelle Obama called Kenya "the homeland" . And the law suit of Alan Keyes vs Barrack Obama , has an actual copy of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate ( with a real seal on it ) . In 2008 , the United States senate defined "natural born citizen" in respect to John McCains elegibility . By definition , one MUST HAVE BOTH parents whom are US citizens to be considered "natural born" . Obama's father was NEVER a US citizen . Therefore , he CANNOT be eligible . Secondly , his father was a British subject , which makes him ineligible to be a US citizen . Obaam also attended Occidental college under foreign aid as a citizen of Indonesia ( whom does not recognize dual citizenship ) . So , take the fake COLB and do with it as you wish . But , do not lie to the people !

form has 11/01 LASER lower left - this is a reissued NOT ORIGINAL NOT CERTIFIED COPY and would not get you an ID to get on an airplane today.

No way is that a legitimate birth certificate- birth certificates are certified by the registrar- they have seals on them. Parents are both identified by age and occupation and marital status (no proof of marriage of Obama's parents has ever taken place and Obama himself called his mother single). Hospitals will offer a cute certificate of birth or even a not so cute one but it is nowhere near official and can easily be reproduced. I'm not a "birther"- Obama is a done deal like it or not. BUT that is NOT an official birth certificate. Not at all.

You know it seems quite odd that a little bit to the right and down the year 2007 is printed backwards... but that may jut be me. Though it does clearly say laser.

How can we trust that this is a legitimate birth certificate if this administration tells more lies than truths, furthermore it actually does look like a fake.

It is a shame that the country has gotten so stupid. The reality is that the birth certificate nonsense is really about not accepting the first Black President. Grow up America. We accepted the first Catholic and we will accept the first woman and so on.

Get a grip.

It is amazing that the US is so stupid that our officials, who are sworn to protect and serve us, would allow such a false document to pass as acceptable in determining eligibility for holding the Presidency of the Republic. Nauseating.

When there is so much smoke ,surely a fire is raging .Why is Barry so constipated about stoping illegal immigration ?

A certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate. Where is the birth certificate? Why the games? Why won't this douche bag puppet produce it?

IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD PROOF THE OBAMA WAS NOT A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, THEN THEY WOULD TAKE EVERY STEP THEY COULD TO TAKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE, SO UNTIL THEY GET OFF THEY'RE TIRED OLD RUMPS, THEY'RE JUST SPEWING HOT AIR LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO......SORE LOSERS....

The level of abject ignorance demonstrated by "Birthers" is hilarious. What numbskulls. Stuff like this id priceless:

"It doesn't matter if your parents are American. You have to be born in the United States (or what is officially considered the United States, like the US military hospital) to become President of the United States."

STUPID...stupid, stupid....LOL

It's obvious the educational system in the USA is really broken if idiots like the birthers even exist.

And the certificate number is blacked out because???

Where is the Certificate Number????

It's always blacked out!!!

this birth certificate looks fake, I looked at how mine and my kids birth certificates looked copied and original and it looked nothing like the one of obama's. We need to get rid of all this corrupt cops, lawyers, judges and politics and start making our own decisions as the people and citizens of the USA before the media, entertainers and many more tell us how to live, where to go, and before the make us live under marshall law.
We need to start asking questions and keep asking. Turn off your tv's, radios, and all electronics that you don't use to cook or clean. Wake up America now.

This document is an affidavit from the State of Hawaii, claiming that they hold Barack's birth certificate. If you have a problem with this not being the original document, your problem is with the State of Hawaii. They are the ones who would be lying in this matter.

THIS CERTICATE IS NOT THE ORGINAL. tHE DATE
OF THIS CERTICATE IS 2007. I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE THE ORGINAL BIRTH CERTICATE WHERE HE WAS
BORN MAYBE THIS CAN BE RESOLVED AT LAST.
THANKS

Proof doesn't really matter. Listen, there are people who believe the moon launch was faked; that George Bush's administration engineered the 9-11 bombings; that AIDS was a plot by white people to destroy Africa; that the climate crisis is a hoax; and, that the world is FLAT. No amount of "evidence" will convince these people because ALL evidence can be "faked." Unfortunately, we're all hard-wired conspiracy theorists. The social scientists call this cognitive bias "the clustering illusion." It served us well in the wild. Three palm trees, a babbling brook and a few scattered boulders meant "there be lions there." We survived because we were able to recall past events, narrate them to our tribe, and avoid risk where risk once lurked.

Wikipedia does a good job of explaining the history, origins and psychology of conspiracy theories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

Because someone may actually be stalking a paranoid, some conspiracy theories are true (the U.S. Government infecting blacks with syphilis for instance - http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment for instance) that fuels the flames of conspiracy theories from time immemorial.

There was a time - a very long time - in human history, where we did not understand the principle of cause and effect. Clusters of observed events resulted in what later became superstitions like bad luck following an encounter with a black cat or walking under a later or doing anything on Friday the 13th.

When no factual proof is necessary, no factual proof is convincing. These controversies will live on for that which is good in us and that which is bad in us. The best we can do is to teach our children critical thinking. For a democracy to survive, the people voting need to be capable of separating fact from fiction, faith from superstition, and reality from fantasy.

And, oh yes. We also need NEWSPAPERS with reporters skilled in fact-finding and ethically bound to stick, as much as possible, with observable, provable facts. Thank you thank you thank you to the Los Angeles Times for the great job it continues to do for its readers, for the country, and for a healthy, informed democracy.

To all you people who say that is not a valid birth ceritficate, in the STATE of HAWAII it is. THAT is what OUR birthcertificates look like, I have one JUST LIKE IT, so, obviously, everywhere birthsertificates do not look the same and your assumptions show your ignorance and they do work, they are real or I would have had a big problem getting a new ID CARD because THAT is what I used, a BIRTHCERTIFICATE just like President Obamas. So stop crying that he's not American, because he is, he just happend to be born in my Birthstate, Hawaii :) goodtimes-Obama No ka oe! Mahalo nui loa, haters. translation for slow haters: thankyou very much, haters.

Honestly, i can't believe that this debate is even necessary. When i went to get my drivers lisence i had to show my birth certificate-not a copy, not a recreation, but my ACTUAL birth certificate. To get my passport-i had to show my ACTUAL birth certificate. So why is the man that is supposed to be leading our country exempt from this requirement? That makes absolutly no sense to me. I'd think that if they were going to make a fake birth certificate for THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, they'd atleast try to make it look legitimate. I guess not. I'm 17 years old and MY birth certificate looks older than that. And my dads? Hell, it looks ancient. But Obama's...for some reason looks brand new.

Personally I think it'd be great if some major proof surfaced and he was kicked out of office. But even if it doesnt- he'll be out of office in 2012 anyways. :)

the birth certificate says any alterations makes the document invalid. The certificate number is blacked out. Therefore, this is not a valid piece of evidence. Ms. Craft the hater, please look at your birth certificate again. Is your certificate number blacked out? Of course not. So pipe down, you slow hater.

If the president is telling the truth per say then what is the big deal of him proveing his citizenship. Does he have somethng to hide or not? He shouldn't get upset if he is telling the truth.

I don't really see where it matters where someone is born as far as the president is concerned. If he or she is a naturalized citizen or someone born in this country, it shouldn't matter, as long as they are a LEGAL U.S. citizen.

You only need American Parents to be an American. Example: What if your mother had you while on vacation in France? You would still be an American because she is!

It is a pity that this scam continues. All who have a high school education and have a birth certificate of their own know full well that this is a "Statement of Birth". You can get one and not be born where you get it. However you cannot get a real Birth Certificate unless you have one.
It is a shame our President, regardless of where he was born does not come forth. Surely he and his aides must know this kind of document only makes the question every stronger.
Why...WHY!? Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his high school, college records hidden...as well as his real birth certificate.
There is something wrong...I pray God there is some reason beyond logic, good sense, common sense and just plain honest open living.
He is our President. I pray for him and wish him the best but will not vote for him again because he has not been open as he promised...about many things.

Obama probably was born in HI, if those 2 newspaper reports of his birth are accurate, even though his own paternal grandmother says he was born in Kenya [Are there any records at all or press announcements from there? Was she present at his birth? Is she reliable?]. But this stew is all unnecessary. Obama just needed/needs to ask HI for a copy of his ORIGINAL BC, and just show that to the press and media. That would have the MD's name, the hospital, etc., etc., on it. We could then check. [Obama's late maternal grandmother who raised him after his own mother deserted him, was a HI banker, and had money.] He never has. WHY not? So he can scorn the "extremist" "birthers" for his perceived political gain? That is not working; a huge percentage of voters believe he is not Constitutionally qualified for that office. Dumb!

Wow, The LA Times is pretty stupid to believe anyone in that administration, especially when you can just look at the certificate and say "wow, that is hardly a valid birth certificate." Perhaps the writer of this article doesn't have a valid one either to use a reference. There's no seal, no signatures, etc.


The posted Barak Obama birth cerificate is an apparent fraud. Myself and all my family members were born in Hawaii and each have our birth certificates going back from 1984 to 1949, and none look anything like the fraudulent Obama birth certificate posted. Obama's inept forgers may have copied a Hawaii certificate issued in the late 1990s, which do not resemble any birth certificates issued in 1961. Fraud is a serious crime anywhere, and, when Obama's fraudulent document is comared to authentic Hawaii birth certificates issued in 1961, we can all easily bring this case to rest.

Sadly this is not a certificate of live birth. It is a copy, or fake at worst.

A mosque at ground zero?! Freedom of religion may be an Americans right but it is NOT a right of a cult that endorses murder and mutilation. A mosque at ground zero...well, then it's only fair we have an American pilot do unto them that which was done unto us. And, president elect BarrackHusseinObama, YOU are a disgrace and an embarrassment to this country and all red, white, and blue True Americans. You dishonor all that this country is founded on and all that have died for this country. Shame on this country's leaders for allowing you to continue.

Has anyone else noticed what the county of birth says?? It says Honolulu, that is also what is printed under City, Town, or locations of birth. Isn't that odd? This is just my opinion but shouldn't the county and location be different. I have a daughter and have seen her birth certificate and this looks like a fake. If you want to prove that its real then show us one with the seal and the doctors signature.

WHAT DIFFERENCE IS IT IF OBAMA DOESN'T PRODUCE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICT. YES I BELIEVE HE IS AN ARIAB SO WHY DOES HE PROCLAIM TO BE BLACK. HE DOESN'T GO TO BLACK CHURCHES. HE IS HALF WHITE YET HE DOESN'T GO TO WHITE CHURCHES. SO WHAT IS HE? BY THE TIME ALL THIS INVESTIGATION IS OVER HE WILL BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IN 2012. SO I SAY LET HIM BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE IS SO STUPID BY TRYING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING AND IS SEALING HIS OWN FATE. OBAMA IS THE WORST PRESIDENT THIS NATION HAS EVER HAD. SO WEATHER HE WAS BORN IN KEYNIA OR HAWAII OR MARS WHO CARES. THE EVIL ONE WILL BE DESTROYED BY HIS OWN HAND.

Wow, there are some really hateful posts on here. That being said, I don't buy in to all these conspiracies about his birthplace, I believe he was U.S. born, and is a natural citizen. But I have to say, the certificate pictured above, looks like it was done by a 14 year old on his parents computer.

I really think it's a real shame that in day and age, With the technology we have that we dont know if Barack Obama is a UNITED STATES CITIZEN or not, We the people should of had proof of this prior to him being sworn in as President of the United States. I feel like most i would say, They wont say it i will he should be impeached or releive of his postion unless proven other wise. Hes had plenty of time to prove himself and has yet to do so.We need change not conspracy in the United State, Wheres are sucurity in our goverment gone, Hello i'm just one concerned citizen of the United States that does have a birth record. Im just one citizen thats tired of the games and progress for we the people.

 
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