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Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here

June 16, 2008 |  1:12 am

(UPDATE: Alan Keyes stoked the Obama birth certificate controversy anew in February 2009. See Ticket coverage here.)

[See August update here.]

First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.

That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.

McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in theBarack Obama's birth certificate copy as released by his presidential campaign in June 2008 Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.

More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.

Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.

Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.

The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.

Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.

(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")

--Andrew Malcolm

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Obama's mother's original Social Security Number Application


http://webofdeception.com/obamamother'sssapplication.html

John McCain has fought and almost lost his life for this country and went through horrendous torture over five years as a prisoner of war. Whoever the idiots were that question if he was an American citizen and wanted to see proof of his birth certificate should truly be ashamed of themselves.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A few days after his birth, his mother, flew back to Hawaii with Barack in order to register him as a United States Citizen. Come on people, do your homework. Besides, for a person to run as a candidate of the USA for President, you must have two naturalized parents, geeesss....

Below from another poster, is the truth also:

Here's another "rumor" for you, Andrew.

Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other 7 were Arab.

That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.

Obama would quallify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.

Of course the little black-lie will be told over, and over, and over again and he will rely on those eigth-grade educations he recently reffered to his black supporters as having to get them to buy it.

Prove that wrong, Drew.

Posted by: First Arab-American president | June 16, 2008 at 03:06 AM

Why don't we get few birth certiface ofthe people who born in Hawai i an in 1961. Then compare it. My kid born in 80 and his birth certificate does not look like Barak Obama.

It's surprising how people can be so dense and defend this birth certificate. They are just trying to cloud the truth. If Obama was born in Hawaii, that's great. I think all candidates should have to prove their citizenship before running for president. Why Obama chooses to use a fake one is beyond me. It only supports the fact that he is hiding something about his birth.

for all you die hard obama fans, put aside your obvious bias and look at the certificate. The font was not around in 1961, there were no laser printers to produce such a smoothly typed document. This would have been done by a typewritter and would have indications in the typing with lighter and darker text. No typewritter in 1961 could produce this document.

Amazing how the IDIOTS who support obambi including the poster of this article refuse to see the truth, no matter how many fACTS come out about obambi the dangerous and unqualified arrogant nobody with all sorts of dangerous connections to people to hate america.

i'm a liberal and there's no way in hell i'd vote for this guy..

HAS THIS COUNTRY GONE INSANE?

this is NOT an official birth certificate of Hawaii.. do the research.. let him prove he has a real one with the embossing on it.

the guy is a fraud! he's a junior senator with all sorts of criminal characters in his life.. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE THAT YOU BLINDLY SUPPORT THIS GUY WITH ALL THE DAMN PROOF OUT THERE THAT HE SHOULDN'T BE PRESIDENT?

obamabots need to wake up - this guy is not qualified to be president.. he' has numerous lies under his belt along with failures.. do yor research because the media will not do their job..

he failed war vets in his own state, he hasn't held one meeting of his international seucrity forum, he is not a constitutional lawyer as many of you dimwits claim.. he is a JUNIOR senator that only got the position because of tactics that led to him running unopposed.

he comes from a criminal town of political manuevering..

wake up!!!!!

HE IS NOT SOME MESSIAH THAT WALKS ON WATER- WAKE UP !

The birth certificate for Obama lacks the raised seal.

I couldn't produce an orginal Birth certificate if I had to. I have a photo copy that looks alot like this one. Just try getting an orginal,not easy,but I swear I was born in Warren Ohio in 1957.

The document proffered by the Obama campaign is a fraud.
There is no seal and no notary. No signatures of any kind.
The US State department would not accept that document in issuing a passport.

Other news organizations are digging deeper into this.

"Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm

I am not suggesting his birth certificate is not real, but the proof of this is a staff member of his campaign "confirming" for us that it is real? That is comical!

But the media would just stare in awe at this confirmation. Now if a Bush administration staff member "confirmed" that Bush did not lie, well the media would maybe not respond the same!

So this "confirmation" is really amusing.

My question is... why is the certificate number blacked out and there is not a seal embossed on the certificate that is shown here on this site? Looks like a fake to me.

I'm with BJ. Anyone voting for Obama has been drinking the Koolaid. Very sad. I am embarrassed for America. I happen to know first hand that he cheated and lied, perpetrated voter fraud, to steal the nomination from Hillary. He is a lying, cheating, criminal and unqualified joke. I can't understand how America got so stupid and blind that they would vote for someone who is NOTHING like what he claims to be. Nothing about him is the truth. All lies. WAKE UP AMERICA.

Aww how cute.. Well, real or not, this is not that hard to fake. Here is what I accomplished in 10 minutes.

http://www.photobill.com/out.php/i121_obamafakedcertificate.png

Notice the Replaced text and the seamless pattern. You really cant tell its a fake, other than the strange titles. Check it out for your self.

The State of Hawaii does not send out electronic birth certificates. They ONLY snail mail them. They mail them in a legal - sized letter envelope. This birth certificate is an obvious fraud for that reason. The idiots who forged this should have FOLDED this fake before giving it to the political shill over at the Daily Kos. Deception is usually rooted out by being smarter than the criminal - a very LOW BAR!!!!

Unless Birth Certificates have changed recently, they show the race of the baby and the race of the baby has to be the mother's race, not the fathers.

Also ladies and gentlemen,. if you will note the lower left hand corner. The form has revisions on it. The form submitted clearly says that this form was revised in 2001.

Therefore this document may be a copy, but all birth certificates that are duplicates say they are no matter what state is involved.

This is in my opinion a forgery. It bears no raised seal of the state, it bears font sizes that were not available in 1961. In fact this form is pristine in all measure.

Also, those live birth certificates are forwarded to the US govt. IF Obama has attained any legal status via a forged document and it was done with his knowledge then at the least he is guilty of mail fraud and anyone aiding and abetting it as well.

Obama needs to come clean and immediately at that. Ron Paul notwithstanding, McCain is legal by act of Congress. Where is Obama's. If the Clinton campaign was smart then they would jump on this and drop it like a bomb on the Democratic National Committee.

If Obama is legal then he should prove it down to less than a reasonable doubt.

The birth certificate does not appear to be genuine. The space for a Certificate Number is blacked out; there is no official seal on the back (it would be embossed. and show through).. There is a date stamped on the back, which appears to be Jan (or Jun) 6, 2007. The certificate appears to be computer printed, not typed, as would have been the case in 1961.

We really need to see the original birth certificate. Surely there is a Honolulu hospital record of the birth.

This certificate is fit for lining bird cages and/or wraping
fish.How about a certificate of baptism ? No way he will
produce one . His atheist confreres could never stomach
it.

Faith and patriotism are to Obama what porc and gay life
style are to Islam.

How can Obama get away with not proving his place of birth? Whether he has the original or not , he can and must prove his place of birth. If he can't, then he is not qualified to run. I know he thinks he is above every one else ,but he's not. This is a simple matter that could be handled in a day. Is anyone seriously trying to prove this is true or not? The only reason Obama wouldn't comply with this matter right away shows something is going on.

Confirmed by Hawaii Health Dept. as legit.

The other salient aspect is that Obama already is ineligible with or without the birth certificate. His mother was only 18 at the time. The requirement for native American birth is that the mother must reside in the USA 10 years, 5 of which must be after the age of 16. So 16 + 5 =21. She was 3 years shy of eligibility and Obama is NOT native born in compliance.
I read a few comments on other forums belittling the importance of the birth certificate and Obama’s suspected failure to register for the draft. Here’s the draft registration requirement.
• Selective Service Registration: Defense Authorization Act established Title 5, U.S. Code, Section 3328
The law says that all men living in the United States who are ages 18 through 25 must register, except those who are in valid non-immigrant status (e.g., students, visitors, and people who have been permitted to come to the US for limited periods of time, etc.). The Selective Service interprets this to mean that undocumented men must register. Failing to register is a federal crime, with a penalty of up to five years in prison or a $250,000 fine or both.
http://www.patriotscorner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7455

This image has been roundly exposed as a forgery by a Canadian named Brian McKinnon. There is no Hawaii birth certificate because he was born in Vancouver, B.C. Canada

The document is clearly a modern computer generated fake. Anyone who is not zombied by obamanation sees it's a fake. So, now that we've been shown a poor fake where does it take us?

Why was this produced?---The only reason is that a birth certificate does not exist, Why?---he wasn't born in the US. He was brought in to Hawaii as a baby and was allowed in by some affidavid or such by his mother.

If he was born in Hawaii people that were at the hospital at the time would have come forward by now. The hospital records would have been produced by now. Nothing, because he wasn't born in Hawaii.

What I can't seem to figure out is why the media is so quiet about this and why the hillary campaign isn't on top of it.

This should be very big news. Why do we hear almost nothing?

bart- thanks so much for the birthcertificatenow website. i'm passing it on to all my family and buds out here in texas! yall- i really hope this pressure builds and he has to produce a b/c. i bet this is why he is avoiding debates and townhalls. someone will ask him about this fake b/c.

 


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