Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here
(UPDATE: Alan Keyes stoked the Obama birth certificate controversy anew in February 2009. See Ticket coverage here.)
[See August update here.]
Click on the certificate to enlarge for better reading.
First, last fall, there were all kinds of people, a number of them Ron Paul supporters, dashing from Internet site to Internet site suggesting that John McCain could not serve as president of the United States.
That was because he was born outside the United States and, therefore, not native-born, as presidents must be constitutionally.
McCain was, in fact, born in a U.S. military hospital in the
Panama Canal Zone, where his father was serving in the Navy. That was, in fact, American-controlled territory at the time.
More importantly, his parents were both American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth. And a sense of the Senate resolution took care of any lingering doubts.
Now come the rumors about Barack Obama's birthplace, that he was really born in his father's native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can't become a U.S. president.
Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama's mother was an American. So is her son.
The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket's request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator's official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.
Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.
(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")
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When a person is named "II" that usually means that they were named for someone other than their father. If they are named for their father, the birth certificate says "Jr." and not "II"
Joseph P. Kennedy II was named for his uncle, Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. who was killed in World War II. Rep. Kennedy's son's name is Joseph P. Kennedy III.
So who is Obama named for?
Posted by: Jaye | July 26, 2008 at 05:55 AM
I can't believe that people keep telling us this is his birth certificate!!! I guess this really is the year of the death of journalism!! These so called "journalists" except anything and everything the Obama camp says as fact,...Will someone please report the facts and not just the propaganda put forth by Obama? Mr. Malcolm, you should be ashamed of yourself!! Do some real reporting for change!!
Several document experts have proven this Certificate of live birth to be a manufactured document, read about it here:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
Let's get back to reporting facts and not just being puppets for Obama!!!
Posted by: Jerry | July 26, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Although the birth certificate is indeed a fake, it isn't because it's a modern typefont or is titled "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH". What he produced is actually quite similar to an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate.
Many people above have suggested that because the birth certificate is from 1961, it should look "older". This certification is issued this year, and so it obviously looks more modern. How it works is, the hospital prepares the "Certificate of Live Birth", which includes signatures, etc. They forward this to the Vital Records office, who puts the important information (name, date of birth, sex) into a birth database. They use the information from the database to issue "Certifications of Live Birth" and they store the original document in a vault. Although in most states, you can still obtain photocopies of the original record, most states also issue Certifications like this, that include only the basic information.
What makes THIS certification fake is that it does not bear a signature or a raised seal. All genuine Hawaiian birth certificates have these items. Based on that fact alone, this is not an authentic certification.
Posted by: Robert Koehler | July 27, 2008 at 12:23 PM
This fake birth certificate doesn't even have a court recorders stamp on it nor is it signed by anyone. Every birth certificate I've ever seen, as a document invesitgator for 25 years, has had an official seal of the court recorder on it and it has a signature on it attesting it is real and authentic. Obama could never use this brith certificate as proof of birth because it fails to have those two features on it. This is obvioulsy a fake.
Posted by: Brian | July 28, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Why not just present a 'real' copy? Considering this looks fake why not go to the actual biulding with his media circus and have every thing procast live and put all doubt to rest?
What is Obama hiding?
Posted by: SARA | July 29, 2008 at 07:54 PM
freedom not exercised is freedom lost
obama is not hiding his contempt for the constitution, the civil rights and liberties of the people.
and as mccain, he does not qualify to run for the office of president.
since these false puppet candidates and their 'handlers' see themselves as above the law, they have no scruples whatsoever to commit unethical and illegal actions. since they command inexhaustible financial resources, it would be very easy to produce a background and documents for these candidates that could not be identified as fraudulent by the people.
so the very fact that they do not seriously choose to hide this, is both an arrogant demonstration of power - and a way to provide a choice for the people to refuse to accept this. this way, if the people willfully choose to ignore and deride their constitution, their rights and responsibilities, and therefore lose their country and their freedom, the perpetrators would justify this in their own eyes, and the people would be responsible for paving the way to their own slavery. in their eyes, a people that would rather throw away their vote to a 'rockstar' or a 'fashion model' or a 'pow', or a political party, or anyone who'd abuse their power; and not vote to see their rights protected and their interests represented in government - such a people deserves to be enslaved or dead. as exemplified in the stories of jacob and his brother esau, and cain and his brother, abel.
Posted by: dave | July 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM
You people are just plain ignorant. My grandson was born in Hawaii and I was present at his birth. His birth certificate is exactly like Obama's. They only list a hospital if the child is born in a hospital. Some people are born at home like three of my siblings and me were.
Get a life and move on. There are too many more important things facing us -- like gas prices, the war, the deficit --.
Posted by: Jaki | July 30, 2008 at 06:25 AM
Despite the MSM's best efforts to ignore this story, it's rapidly becoming the elephant in the kitchen. It's grown beyond whether or not the published version is a fraud (I was in publishing for 15 years and I knew within a few seconds of enlarging the graphic when Kos published it that it was bogus).
The issue now is, Obama could silence this controversy in a heartbeat by making his REAL birth certificate or a certified copy of it available. Yet he doesn't. Why?
If there's nothing to hide, show us the real certificate and let us go about our business.
Posted by: RMD | July 30, 2008 at 09:24 PM
If the Los Angeles Times has come up with this info, they should take this ball and go with it.
Posted by: Barbara England | July 31, 2008 at 03:28 PM
The Smoking Gun on the Birth Certificate Issue has been found. Obama has been exposed. The B.C. is a Forgery!!!
Check out the whole story at:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
Posted by: MMB | August 03, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Why is the certificate number blacked out if this is legit? It is so nobody can verify for themselves with the State of Hawaii. Also, where is the embossed seal of the state of issue that is legally required to be on such documents? I had to order a copy of my own b.c. recently, and it has the embossed seal of the state I was born in. This is NOT a legit birth certificate.
Posted by: Joe | August 04, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Reality check, people. First, the birth certificate IS probably not the original birth certificate Obama's parents were issued. Parents often lose documents. Anybody can get an official copy of their birth certificate from their birth state. It is generally only official if it has a seal, but "Unofficial" copies can generally be had for less. Not everything requires an "official" birth certificate.
Second, There is probably a seal on the certificate - but it would almost certainly be an embossed seal that can't be photocopied. I've got several official copies of my birth certificate from Illinois, and they all have seals. You won't be able to see it on a computer, unless you have a 3-D screen.
Third, birth certificates vary from state to state. You can't tell anything by comparing this document to your own, unless you live in Illinois.
Fourth, a "natural born" citizen is simply a person who was born a citizen, as opposed to somebody who was "naturalized". Having a parent who is a U.S. citizen makes you a citizen, regardless of how long they lived in the U.S. or whether you were born elsewhere or if your parents were married.
Fifth, the legal issues related to citizenship were worked out a couple of centuries before Obama was born.
Seeing this thread is encouraging, though. I've been quite concerned that the left wing had caught up to the right in sheer lunacy in their fanaticism for Obama. I'm glad to see that you guys are still light years ahead of us. Thanks.
Posted by: Diane | August 04, 2008 at 10:41 PM
NO QUARTER has done a forensic analysis on that document and they say it is a forgery.
They aren't saying he wasn't born in Hawaii, but they are saying that that birth certificate was forged using Obama's SISTER's document as a template.
Suspicion is that Barack Obama has had a few name changes. Or was adopted by the Indonesian stepfather.
Or something. The Obama campaign needs to explain themselves, because the close up view of the document DOES look like it has been doctored. The KOS people who put it on the internet also need to explain why they tried to pass off a forgery as a real document.
Posted by: Petty Point | August 05, 2008 at 03:10 AM
It would seem to me that with such a important issue as to the legal status of the men running for our nations highest office that a federal investigation would be called for to clear up any questions.. I realize that lying to the people is a perfectly acceptable way of life in politics but they should at least wait until they are elected ******* oh thats right they both are already elected officials nuff said.
Posted by: Steve Klinko | August 05, 2008 at 06:40 AM
I'm curious. Is this a recent certificate from the state of Hawaii? In 1961, they were using photostat copies of birth certificates. This is a computer generated on, similar to the recent one my wife received as a replacement. Also, where's the embossed seal? How come the certificate number is blacked out? Who really cares? More importantly, he's a radical socialist who befriends other radicals and anti-Americans to further his political ambition.
If the citizens of this country, especially the younger generations, were taught to think and question in school instead of being spoon fed anti-US garbage, they would reject Obama as a hack who stole his slogans from the movie, Matrix. God help us all if he's elected.
Posted by: Bruce Handler | August 05, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Obsma was born in Kenya??? His mother could not fly to Hawaii because she was too pregnant... This is NOT a birth certificate from a REAL HOSPITAL IN THE STATE OF HAWAII...
THIS IS A FAKE.
THEY HAVE THE PRINTED ADDRESS OF 'MOMMY AND DADDY....
????
PRINTED ADDRESS OF THE HOSPITAL ?????
PRINTED BIRTH TIME?????
PRINTED WEIGHT OF THE BABY ????
PRINTED SEX ????
AND PRINTED DOCTOR'S NAME ????
AND
SIGNATURE OF THE DOCTOR......???? (in ink)
PRINTED NATIONALITY ????
PRINTED NAMES OF PARENTS... MARRIED?????
REALLY?????
AND...
'EMBOSSED SEAL' WITH STATE OF 'HAWAII' ON IT ????
AND
'NUMERICALLY PRODUCED THAT IS PRINTED ON THE DOCUMENT, THAT FALLS INTO SEQUENCE OF BIRTHS AT THAT HOSPITAL...????
WHAT HOSPITAL?????
OR DID HIS 'WHITE' MOM "POP" IN THE FIELDS OF 'THE FATHER'S' GOAT HERD"?????
PROVE IT!!!!!!
PROVE IT !!!!!!
WITNESSES????????
PROVE IT!!!!!!!!
ANOTHER SHAM...
THIS GUY IS NOT TO BE BELIEVED.... PROVE IT.
Posted by: timeswoman | August 05, 2008 at 06:40 PM
Wake up people most everyone of you have a birth certificate take it out of your draw and look at it you honestly don't see any diffrences? When you go to any goverment office to apply for anything they ask you for that certificate, and if it does not have that official seal on it you walk out the door empty handed. That is not an official Birth Certificate WAKE UP PEOPLE
Posted by: Terry | August 06, 2008 at 08:10 AM
Are people really that damn stupid?
I don't have my original birth certficate. I have one reprinted and issued to me by the state agency that handles it.
This is pretty status quo for many people.
This is more evil slander by people who don't want to have a black guy be president, but look for ANY other possible slam against him so they can deny their racism while knocking Obama down.
Posted by: Patrick | August 06, 2008 at 08:18 AM
I wonder what document Senator Obama used to obtain his passport from the State Department. No birth certificate is worth anything without the raised seal from a State Department of Vital Statistics and/or certifications that it is it is a true copy. My son's were born in the 1960s and their birth certificates are photostatic copies--black background with white lettering, but they bear the State DVM's raised seal. I worked for two Government Agencies, and when we made copies of birth documents, we always brushed the seal lightly with carbon paper before we copied them for our records so the record would contain a copy of the real deal. If everything is okay, they should produce a certified copies of their birth certificates. I had to when I applied for my passport and Medicare. What's good for the citizens is good for the politicians.
Posted by: Darlene Brown | August 06, 2008 at 07:27 PM
you people are a bunch of nit wits. you argue about citizenship and completely ignore the fact that obama is a racist communist. no wonder this country is going down the tubes. you people can't even look at the back ground of a man and figure out who he is!!! you remind me of battered woman who keeps returning to her man because he says he "loves" her. you don't deserve to be free, you don't understand the sacrifices made by others that fought for your freedom.
Posted by: VIRG | August 07, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Hey Drew,
That's interesting stuff.
I think that Obama's ethnic ancestry may make him the second Melungeon president with Lincoln being the first.
Only 43.72% joking here.
Posted by: Jack | August 08, 2008 at 06:35 AM
What I didn't see (but may have missed) is a reference to birth certificates like mine. Which says/claims that I was born at 11 Schermerhorn Street, Brooklyn, News York on April 14, 1935. It is signed by the Mayor, the Registrar of Records, and the Commissioner of Health. But none of these people, or a doctor, was present; they are just saying that this Certificate of Birth is one file in the Department of Health. There is no evidence that I wasn't born at some other time and place as I was surprise birth at my maternal grandparents house, at least so says my baby book.
I've used this Certificate of Birth to get my U.S. passport and the passport let me stay in Japan for 18 years, register my marriage to a Japanese citizen, and sponsor her Green Card. She tells me that in Japan (at least at the time of her birth), both marriages and births were only considered "registrations" not actual facts-on-the-ground which often occurred at some time previous to the registration (like wise, marriages are also registrations as there is no license, no authorized agent of the state performing a ceremony; you fill out a form, have three others sign it, and you're good to go). Thus there is nothing to prevent somebody giving birth in nearby Korea -- and smuggling the child into Japan by sea and registering it as born in Japan.
And there is nothing to prevent somebody giving birth to somebody in nearby Canada and smuggling the child into the U.S. and registering it as born in the U.S., at least when there was no hospital/doctor involved. And even though there was a hospital/doctor involved, they could have been bribed.
Thus when we come to the idea of belief/truth/faith, I think we need to invoke Thomas Merton who said, "Faith is not blind conformity to prejudice - a "pre-judgement". It is a decision, a judgement that is fully and deliberately taken in the light of a truth that cannot be proven." In legal matters, such as whether Obama is eligible to be president, I think this decision/judgement needs to be made by the courts, finally by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Posted by: Dave | August 08, 2008 at 07:52 AM
There is a Rumor that his father was already married, and that him being a Kenyan Citizens under the Law that a male (unlike a Female child being born to a male Kenyan Citizens) child would be a Kenyan citizens until 23 years old, thus making him a kenyan citizens and at the very least having duakl citizenship making him ineligible to run for President of the United States.
Posted by: Richard Bond | August 08, 2008 at 09:05 AM
BTW, I neglected to say that the Birth Certificate I'm talking about has NO raised seal, only a barely readable watermark that doesn't copy. It's so old and flimsy that I've patched in with clear tape and it's still accepted.
It's been successfully used since at least 1939 when it was most probably used to get my social security card (presumably by my mother who rented me out as child model when she worked for Macy's for $5/week).
Posted by: Dave | August 08, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I just received a COPY of my birth certificate and have to say, after looking at what is supposed to be a copy of Obama's. Either mine is fake or his is. By the way, mine is from Hawaii also.
Posted by: Janet | August 08, 2008 at 05:39 PM
How can you tell if there is a raised seal on a digital 2-dimension reproduction? Birth certificates are provided by hospitals, and the states have records of registration of birth. I am sure many states have digital as well as or in place of paper copies. There are 2 kinds of citizens, those who qualify by virtue of birth, and those who immigrate and need to become citizens by naturalization. If you are a citizen by birth according to law, regardless where born, you are a "natural citizen." That's the law and it is clear. By the way, I got a passport with a hospital birth certificate that had a raised seal, but my name and data were hand written in by my mother, in pencil, and it was signed by only one of two required to sign it. I am sure if I were to ask for a copy from the state of my birth, it would be typewritten or digital. Besides, we all know Obama and McCain are natural citizens -- those raising doubts are either delusional or easily duped or deliberately trying to mislead others.
Posted by: talisa | August 08, 2008 at 09:36 PM
I have reason to believe this story is going to blow up next few weeks. The GOP is rumored to have the real deal but they are waiting until after the convention. If this is proven fake or doctored in any way, Obama will have lost all credibility. His citizenship will no longer be an issue.
Posted by: Wildweeksahead | August 09, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Well we know this is a fake, because Barack's original name was Barry, which he later changed to Barack.
Posted by: colbyflem93 | August 10, 2008 at 05:54 AM
The certificate does NOT look legitimate. I hope someone checks it out. Images of this "digital file" contain the greenish paper "background" that extends far beyond the border of the document.
A document would have a concise border, not a green design background that extends well beyond the edge of the paper border.
Posted by: Asspcoate | August 10, 2008 at 08:53 AM
The number on Obama's birth certificate is actually for a woman. Obama refuses to produce the actual document....wonder why???
Posted by: ProudAmerican | August 11, 2008 at 06:38 AM
I am sure this will be a very big issue come the Democratic National Convention in Denver.
Let me congratulate Hillary's die hard supporters who have worked so hard to make the Blacks say "WHE WUZ WHOBBED!
Posted by: Bret_G | August 11, 2008 at 07:11 AM
The Hawaiian Obama birth certificate is obviously forged. This will be the "October Surprise" of the election. However, by then it will be too late to place Hillary on the ballot and the Democrat party will be destroyed from the inside-out.
The only solution is to have a Senate Hearing on this matter immediately in a similar fashion to what was done for McCain to validate his natural born status earlier this year.
Write your Senators.
Posted by: Mr. Big | August 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I don't care for either candidates. But until this presidentiall election, I had never heard of Barack Obama. Where did he get all this money to run for President of the US? Could it be from terrorist groups hoping to get an Arab Muslim into the White House, even if he's not a US citizen? I know he says he's not Muslim, but do politicians lie constantly to get what they want at any cost??? Wasn't he actually born in Indonesia? BTW, that's not an official birth certificate as stated because there is no official seal and signature. I know that's probably some type of a copy but copies still have the official seal and signature. Something to be concerned about I think. Just don't be fooled by all the fake promises because they'll say whatever they have to to get your vote even if they don't agree with what they are saying. After all, globally, it's not a race war, so to speak, but it's a religious war, don't forget that. Barack Hussein Obama US President, just doesn't sound right to me. And most of the world would love for him to be president of the US, that's also a bit scary, since most of the world is growing at a faster rate toward the religion of Muslim with the goal of world domination for the Muslim religion. Don't be fooled, but time will certainly tell of this truth. So with that, God Bless America!
Posted by: dianne | August 12, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Did Obama say he wanted the United States to be the United States of the past, that was his goal. I thought his wife just said recently that she is finally proud to be an American. That doesn't sound like she was proud to be an American of the United States of the past. By the way, I'm all for a black president. But I would much rather have Colin Powell as President of the United States. See, it's not about race for most Americans. It's the integrity and character of the person, not the skin color. I am concerned about religion, race is not an issue for me, anyway. If race were an issue with the majority of Americans, then Hillary Clinton would be running for President and not Barack Obama. So I get tired of hearing that Americans aren't ready for a Black president. Actually, Obama is more white and Arab than African.
Posted by: samuel | August 12, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Obama needs to produce the true certificate, not computer generated. Where is the doctors signature? He is hiding the truth from the American people. Perhaps when Hillary takes the floor at the DNC she will ask for a roll call Vote for her nomination.
Posted by: Connie | August 12, 2008 at 04:23 PM
I don't know about this BC, I'm from Hawaii, and although a few years later, I have a lot of signatures of key people in the process along with a lot more information, like my parents previous address, the name of the hospital, each of my parent's birth places, and a couple attendants, the Director of Heath, and the Registrar General at the time. And the seal is raised like a notary.
Posted by: kepa | August 12, 2008 at 05:58 PM
Obama's birth certificate is Exactly like my son who was born in Hawaii, there are no doctors signature, no hospital name, no parent addresses and my son's certificate say Certificate of Live Birth! Get real people, grow up and stop spreading gossip!
Posted by: dr | August 13, 2008 at 04:32 PM
His father is African. His mother is American. That makes him more African-American than Colin Powell.
Posted by: Stan G | August 13, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Just look at the lower left hand corner. This certificate is printed on a form revised in 2001.
Posted by: Armyvet | August 13, 2008 at 06:08 PM
I don't think this is a real birth certificate. I was born in Hawaii. My certificate doesn't look anything like this one. Mine has all sorts of info on it like parents ages, birth places, hospital name, address, etc. And mine has a seal that can be seen even on a photo copy!!! This appears to simply be a registration of birth that isn't witnessed. I believe this type of certificate is simply to register a birth after the fact. Since he is running for President and not dog catcher, I think there should be some proof of birth in Hawaii. This certificate is not it for me.
Posted by: N Vogel | August 13, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Soon, the failure to produce an actual, raised-seal birth certificate will be the least of Bambi's problems, as his layers of lies start to unravel. Oh, what a tangled web we weave. I'd be embarrassed to call myself a journalist if my "reporting" amounted to simply repeating everything I was told.
Posted by: michelle m | August 13, 2008 at 10:42 PM
read this and then try to tell us it's not real.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
snip
When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.
“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us...
The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.
“I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”
/snip
so the Hawaii Department of Health confirms it is real. how foolish do those people clamoring for a seal and signature on the FRONT of the document feel now, knowing that they appear on the BACK of such documents in Hawaii? idiots.
Posted by: jackhart | August 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM
so where's the back? of course all this is not the major issue in this election sham, all too thinly veiled as 'democratic.' obviously both mccain and obama do not even legally qualify to run for the office of president. their comportment and vaguely globalist 'new world order,' and firmly anti-america and anti-freedom oriented agenda, otherwise a jumble of lies, corrupt and opportunistic contradictions dictated by money and power, disqualifies them manifold. the legitmate and qualified candidate with honest solutions to the fundamental problems, is candidate for president, RON PAUL. for small government, accountable to the people and the constitution, for strong individual rights, for peace and peaceful trade, for money controlled by the people and backed by real assets, for mature, responsible, and self-confident citizenry and a sovereign republic of america within secure borders.
Posted by: dave | August 14, 2008 at 01:15 PM
If you enlarge the picture, there is a faint backward date-stamp that shows up showing 2007. Based upon personal family history of requesting duplicate birth certificates, I would guess this is a duplicate issues in 2007, but is in fact a legal document. They may have blanked out the seal and other "pertinent" information - such as the certificate id - to prevent anyone using the seal likeness for illegal purposes. Just a thought......but the date's clearly there - and had bled through from the back - if you look closely.
Posted by: Nicole T | August 15, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Look here, folks. For many (most) of us, there's no such thing as an "original" birth certificate. My parents never had mine. There's nothing but a record in the city/county record of births. (Same thing for my brother. I've seen both.) Same thing for my marriage. My wife and I were married; everybody signed, and we got a photocopy from the record book, which apparently is the only thing that matters. Does that make this record genuine? I don't know. But don't talk about "originals." For many of us, there aren't any, or at least we don't have them.
Posted by: Andrew | August 15, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Take a look at the lower left....the registrar statement is different on the Obama "copy" than on the real copy.
This country needs to have anyone running for president to supply the proof needed......not questionable copies.
The seal is to my knowledge, placed on all originals and authenic copies of birth certificates.
What are they afraid of???? Hiding something????
COME CLEAN OBAMA.
Posted by: Joe | August 15, 2008 at 05:19 PM
So Andrew Malcom, no correction yet about the false birth certificate, or are you going to finally requilaify yourself as part of the human race ?
Posted by: SiliconDoc | August 18, 2008 at 03:38 AM
Obama's mother's original Social Security Number Application
webofdeception.com/obamamother'sssapplication.html
Posted by: Robert LewisRobert Lewis | August 18, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Okay, not that I really care cuz, I don't care for Barack Obama. But I was born in Hawaii in 1966. My parents had my middle name changed to a Hawaiian name when I was in high school per my grandmother's request as my sister was given a Hawaiian middle name. Anyhow, when I got married I had to prove that my name was legally changed on my birth certificate to my new middle name and I got the EXACT same green birth certificate as shown for Barack Obama, but my certificate no. was not blacked out (his is for identity purposes, I guess). This is a valid copy of a birth certificate from the State of Hawaii. The orginial certificate is a small 5 X 7 black piece of paper with a raised seal of the State of Hawaii on it. It also listed all the other pertinent data such as: hospital, doctor who delivered baby, etc. I am a retired Marine with 22 years of honorable service and my advice is do what I am doing. Just don't vote for him, I don't care for him either, but addressed all this energy towards something more constructive and DON"T vote for the "wannabe president" Hell ,I wanna be president too, vote for me. I served my country!
Posted by: Lisa | August 18, 2008 at 09:08 PM
Jackhart, comment for ya. There is not a seal on the back of a COPY of a birth certificate. The green one as shown here is a duplicate. I have the exact same one. The original for hawaii is black paper with white lettering from the 60's and it has a raised seal. I had to request a duplicate as I had a middle name change when I was young. DON'T vote for BO!
Posted by: Marine retired | August 18, 2008 at 09:50 PM