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Hillary Rodham Clinton has just vowed to obliterate Iran. Do you want to vote for yet another war?
Posted by: N.E. BodybutHillary | May 05, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Future News:
America continues to vote for the same old politics, and gets same old results. Voters blame the government. Economy continues to decline. Jobs reduce pay or move elsewhere. Health care becomes out of the financial reach of more and more americans. Educational options are reduced for the working class.
Posted by: FutureTeller | May 05, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Hillary Clinton deserves a political prize. She has promised a gas tax holiday so that Mom, Pop, and the kids can pile into the SUV and go to the NASCAR races.
Barack Obama, delivering a little straight talk that would put John McCain to shame, comes out looking like Mean Ole Dadday who won't let the kids watch TV until they do their homework and eat their vegetables. HIllary, like some spoild brat baby boomer, stages a temper tantrum, and calls Mean Ole Daddy a nasty name "elitist" egged on by irresponsible Odler Brother, AKA John McCain.
And there's more. Just like spoiled children invent an imaginary Boogeyman whom they can blame for all their misbehavior, so Hillary and Johnnie have invented a real Boogeyman - AKA REv. Wright.
Who's acting like an adult? This contest really reveals the intelligence of the voters of Indiana and North Carolina, and since I don't what to sound like some sort of conceited elitist - I'll break it down to language the comman man can understand. The voters in Indiana and North Carolina are getting pimped. And that's the straight talk. Deal with it.
Thanks to the latest cover of Newsweek Magazine, we know one importnat fact about Obama. He eats his vegetables.
Posted by: William Joseph Miller | May 05, 2008 at 11:42 AM
We Clinton supporters need to contact our Congressmen and US Senators and Howard Dean and insist on Michigan and Florida delegates being seated fairly. No 50/50 split which would cancel Hillary’s legitimate wins.
It is ridiculous for Obama supporters to insist that the "voters" in those states DESERVE to lose their voice because the State Party Organizations broke some rules. When did any of us get to decide when or how we vote in primaries or in the general? Get Real...the voters are always innocent bystanders.
Florida can be counted “as is" since Obama and Clinton were on the ballot and no one was favored.
Michigan needs a revote and since they are going to vote on statewide measures on Aug 5th, there is NO REASON why they can't choose between Clinton and Obama at the same time.
Right now, it is Obama and his supporters who are blocking any Michigan revote or Florida seating for that matter.
WE VOTERS need to write Howard Dean and our state superdelegates and convince them that we WILL NOT STAND for the contest to be stacked in favor of Obama because "his supporters might get upset". Hillary's supporters WILL GET UPSET as well if she doesn't get a fair shake and that includes the votes she got from Michigan and Florida. (The media and Howard Dean act as if Obama, by virtue of being black, has a higher claim than Hillary. Listen and you will hear this outrageous bias everywhere.)
If Obama gets his way, it will be all of us who lose since he will have NO chance in November without the support of Michigander and Floridian voters as well as angry voters such as me. We must promise retribution if Howard Dean and the credentials committee refuse to play fair.
Write congress.org and Howard Dean at [www.democrats.org].
Do this today and pass it on please. Time is running out and the Credentials Committee is meeting at the end of May.
Posted by: Michigan and Florida cannot be disenfranchised | May 06, 2008 at 08:52 AM
how can hillary's so-called wins be legitamate? there was no choice of candidates to vote for. only her name was on the ballot in MI. they both agreed to honor the DNC rules which hillary later ignored by refusing to remove her name form MI ballots campaigning in FL. how are the those result fair? if you support a cheater, you are a looser. have you no shame?
Posted by: loki | May 06, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Dear disenfranchised -
Florida has it's own problems, but answer me this - how is Michigan a legitimate win when Hillary's name was the only democrat on the ballot - in violation of the party's rules - and yet 40 percent of Democrats chose to vote for uncommitted rather than vote for her?
Why in a million years would we reward her for cheating?
Posted by: Diane | May 06, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Some people think it is unfair that the Michigan votes are not counted just because the election was illegally moved up and Obamas name was not on the ballat? These same people think that clinton is just a regular working mother? This just proves that we need better mental health care in America.
Posted by: Frank Salinger | May 06, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I'm curious to see how the Obamites and the Obama-crazed media will explain away his big loss in West Virginia this coming Tuesday. He's polling very poorly there and is expected to lose by a large margin to Clinton. He still can't connect with blue-collar voters, the so-called Reagan Democrats, who will vote for McCain rather than him. Various polls, including the LA Times, are now showing that Clinton is more likely to beat McCain than Obama. Looks like a vote for Obama is a vote for keeping a GOP White House.
Posted by: Donald | May 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM
America is going (to coin a phrase) to the river and get stuck (what the Dinosaurs did at the La Brea Tar Pits in Southern California) over the Rev. Wight issue. There is a link that people in the know should read and moderate their frustrations / anger over this divisive issue, and lets move forward. Please click on the link below and get some insight into his black prospective. This practice had just ended years before he was born and had life images throughout his young age. If you were born in the early 50's and watched the civil right marches a common scene was the dogs, baton wielding policemen, and the high powered water hoses.
A wise person should forgive but never forget.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2008/03/slavery...
Posted by: South Central LA N-Phoenix | May 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM
On Florida and Michigan, please see
“Hillary and the Genie Do Florida and Michigan: A play in one very short act”
http://msa4.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Mitchell in New York | May 11, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Here’s a summary of some good reasons to consider supporting Obama. Feel free to share with friends in West Virginia and Kentucky:
http://acropolisreview.com/2008/04/top-reasons-to-give-barack-obama-your.html
Posted by: Tina | May 11, 2008 at 01:47 PM
On Florida and Michigan, please see
“Hillary and the Genie Do Florida and Michigan: A play in one very short act”
http://msa4.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Mitchell in New York | May 11, 2008 at 01:49 PM
IF what all the pundits are saying is true, regardless of the outcome of today's WV primary, that Obama is the nominee, all I can say is... once more, the democratic party has shot itself in the foot!
The democrats started out with 2 of the best candidates a political party could ever wish for. What should they have done? They should have ran Clinton and groomed Obama, so that dems could have a 16 yr. run. BUT what do they do instead?
They run both against each other, and literally wipe each other out! Sending Obama limping to November.
The republicans, on the other hand, had no viable candidate to run! BUT, "made do" with McCain. However, with the way the democrats crafted their "stupid presidential campaign", McCain looks to inherit the presidency by default!
The democrats have run such a divisive campaign for both candidates, that no matter what they do, one side will feel cheated. And this is not going to be "smoothed over", as they would like to think, by November.
This process has become too personal, and the press and media have both exerted such undue influence on the outcome of the primaries, that they have incited supporters from each side to sling hate and vitriolic messages back and forth. After this, you expect either side to just pull back and say: "Oh well, now on to Nov." It's not going to happen, because Clinton supporters will do one of 3 things.... 1) sit out the election 2) if the republican agenda of lower taxes and tax breaks benefit them, they will vote McCain. Or 3) Write in Hillary.
And this is why the democrats have been, and wll be, shut out of the White House for many years to come!
Posted by: BJ | May 13, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Hillary even at this eleventh hour should do what is right most important for her own future political career as well as Party and Country and stand aside and fully endorse and support Senator Barack Obama as The Democratic Party Presidential Nomination.
These last few weeks Hillary's most fervent and loyal supporters have damaged her seriously with there veiled threats to vote McCain if Hillary is not the nomination this has not sat comfortable with the majority of voters, who never liked the early claim that the nomination race would be all over by 5th February, this has been seen as arrogance.
Hillary must then call on all her supporters to back The Democratic Party fully and without reservation in November's Election. The calls now being made by a Ohio Group of Women , most loyal Clinton Supporters, to campaign in every swing State for McCain to stop Obama will seriously damage Hillary herself and her future political career and respect.
Posted by: John B Sheffield | May 17, 2008 at 09:09 AM
It is now clear that Clinton and Obama need each other to immunize against racist attacks, and Obama is not leadership material, yet.
Obama ran scared. Instead of campaigning aggressively in Virginia, he went to Michigan, where the votes were not even counted. What's the message? This is not presidential conduct. If he gets to the White House, he can hide behind Hillary Clinton's skirt.
Democrats are beginning to figure it out. If chicken feed defeats Hillary, McCain's swift boat operatives will destroy Obama the way they destroyed Kerry/Edwards.
Let's cut to the chase, America is still too racist to elect a cowardly, Black President. Read this by Bill Moyers, to clearly understand the simple fact that Obama's only path to the White House is through an alliance with Hillary Clinton.
http://surftofind.com/moyers
Posted by: Justin | May 17, 2008 at 09:35 AM
No shame has who don't respect others to observe elementary grammar rules to capitalize sentences and names.
Posted by: jee wright | May 17, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Hillary didn't have a legitimate win....you guys kill me. Just face the fact she lost and get over it....she would still lose with the delegates seated. lol
Posted by: fghgfhgfh | May 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Well said, MItchell in New York.
The Democrats have wasted a good opportunity for 16 years with these two great candidates.
And I believe HRC is equally good.
And the media has been inciting all kinds of mischief.
Posted by: Mamatha Agrawal | May 17, 2008 at 10:18 AM
You DO know that if they count Michigan and Florida after the final contests on June 3rd that even if Hillary gets her legitimate slice of delegates that it will likely push Obama over the 2026 delegates needed, right? If you really want Hillary to win, you'd do like she's done and STOP talking about Michigan/Florida delegates or else she'll lose.
Posted by: Aaron | May 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM
When Hillary Clinton leaves the race, there will be a quiet riot among the largest, most faithful voting bloc Democrats have ever had. Women work the 2 shifts necessary to make sure our kids can go to college. Women keep families together and children safe and sound when irreparable circumstances tear at the fabric of family. On the day Hillary leaves the race, women in America - regardless of who they personally endorse for the White House - owe it to this courageous women Hillary Clinton to make our voices heard as one. Women care about health care, education, and the environment. If you are a women tired of being told by anyone to leave your dreams behind, do this for yourselves. On the day Clinton leaves the race, join in one moment of QUIET RIOT -- stop working or caring for others long enough to let America know it needs to take care of YOU.
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 17, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I'm not saying that HIllary wouldn't have been an acceptable president, but Obama is going to win the most delegates. If the superdelegates were somehow convinced to select Hillary over Obama that would really upset a bunch of people. Instead of figuring out why hillary or Obama are somehow unelectable or unnacceptable to us, we need to figure out how to make sure that the Rove Swiftboat people don't get McCain elected.
I'm a middle aged ex Air Force officer (pilot), not a liberal tree hugger, but I can see that we have problems in this country that are not going to be solved by 4 or 8 more years of status quo. We have to get some very different politicians in office if we are going to recover from decades of corporate influence in Washington. Stop the bickering about Hillary vs. Obama. There is essentially no realistic way that Hillary can win. Nobody is going to accept the results of a primary that didn't even list Obama on the ballot. It is also extremely unlikely that Florida is going to count since the DNC said it wouldn't and because there was no campaigning there. Even if both Fl and Mi were counted, Hillary would not win, so let's move on and get Obama elected.
Posted by: captbilly | May 17, 2008 at 10:44 AM
The MI and FL votes MUST count as the were cast! This is America, right? No splitting the vote to keep Obama supporters from getting "angry". That smacks of blackmail. Is it OK to make Hillary supporters angrier?? The DNC need to do the fair thing when they decide at the end of this month, and IF they aren't truly fair, anger and retribution will be felt in November at the ballot box. What the DNC THINKS it's gaining in attracting the young vote will be of little effect when the rest of the country votes in November. You can't ignore all those who have contributed to making this the country it is - if the dems are to take back the White House then the most electable candidate must be the nominee... and that person is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: jo | May 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM
So, judging by the picture, Bill Clinton has ALWAYS been cool.
I suspected as much.
Posted by: toby | May 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Clinton tried everything in this race including intimidation that her supporters will campaign for McCain. I have several comments about this The first being that this loss might well have been obviated if she had run a more competent campaign in the beginning. She was so sure of herself that she was to be the nominee that she did not pay attention to the organization she ran. To me this says that she would not be able to handle he power of the presidency when she becomes intoxicated with power before she gets it.
She and Bill had not had the conversation about delineation of power between them or if they did have it, Bill was not satisfied with his share. For it would seem to an impartial observer that Bill Clinton was subverting her campaign whether deliberately or subconsciously.
Despite a very strong campaign in the latter parts, I believe that Hillary was a flawed candidate who lacks the requisite skills to be president but who has been a very effective person. The way this campaign was run it reminded me too much of George Bush and because of that sense there was an uneasiness about her that was amplified by the Boznia airport incident.
My last comment is that Hillary needed to distance herself slightly from the strident portion of the women's in much the way that Obama distanced himself from Wright. Stridency is good for building a movement and gaining legislative power but when it comes to the presidency there has to be the feeling that the candidate will be president for all the people.
The women's movement attack on Ted Kennedy when he supported Obama expressed an entitlement to the office. the use of the word misogamy whenever there was opposition is self defeating. Obama never expressed racism as the cause of a rejection of him by white voter which except maybe in WV is probably the case, Until a female candidate's campaign counters the idea of misogamy except when it is overtly demonstrated there won't be a women president.
It is time that this country had a woman president but it is not something that is owed to women but to the country. As long as the women's movement feels entitled to that prize, they are not.
Posted by: Gog8tr | May 17, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Let's cut to the chase, America is still too racist to elect a cowardly, Black President
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But racist enough to elect two draft dodging white presidents and a vice-president who had “other priorities” than to serve in the military during the Vietnam War. By the way, it’s not really an act of bravery to call someone a coward when you can hide behind the anonymity of the Internet. I’m betting you wouldn’t have the guts to say it to his face
Posted by: lhummer Littleton, CO | May 17, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Capt Billy: Air Force Officers are always liberal.. its part of being in a "military" service that is more of a corporation than a military service. I'm a Marine hornet driver myself currently doing a ground tour in Afghanistan. Air Force troops aren't even allowed to man guns or enter areas where they may have to shoot. Its against "Air Force" regulations. How's that for military? And for the record.. serious progress is being made here in Afghanistan, and I'd like THAT status quo to continue as opposed to pulling out and dishonoring the troops I've seen killed here.
There is a lot of evil in this world, and if you think Barack Obama has any insight in these evils you're insane. One term in the Senate and a few good speeches doesn't mean you know jack *&*^ about what this planet is really like. Vote for John McCain.
Furthermore never in the history of the world has a military force done what has been done in Iraq and Afghanistan. The American people and the majority of the people posting here, have no patience, and no insight. Study some history folks. More than 7,000 American's were killed in three days at Gettysburg. Israel has been in existence for 60 years and the region still isn't stable. Did you really expect we would invade Iraq and Afghanistan, remove their governments, build new governments, help the people, and build sustainable infrastructure to support these goals in 6 months??? Do any of you have any clue as to the complexities involved in rebuilding a nation? Do you know whats going to happen to Iraq and Afghanistan.. to its PEOPLE, ITS CHILDREN, TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE if we pull out? Genocide, civil war. I guarantee it. But.. you democrats, the soft hearts, are more worried about the ECONOMY. I'll be sure to tell that to the children I see on patrol asking for water. I'm not saying we should have gone into Iraq in the first place. I'm not saying it hasn't been mismanaged either. But we're here now, and to walk away is completely irresponsible.
Posted by: Hornetjockey | May 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM
My familly lives in Florida and did not vote bscause they were told their votes would not count. How do you count people who would have voted for Obama? Since when is o.k.to break the rules and be rewarded for douing so? America is a country with rules.
Posted by: chinny | May 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM
HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!
HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:
IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana and West Virginia makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Sen. Obama has zero chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources without Hillary Clinton. Zero chance.
It is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Don't be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And the answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.
Sincerely
Jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."
Posted by: jacksmith | May 17, 2008 at 12:19 PM
"HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!"
...then why is she losing to very freshman senator Obama?
His loss in Indiana makes it crystal clear he can't win in November? No, the only thing that would make it crystal clear he can't win in November is bitter, arrogant, entitled ex-clinton voters who refuse to accept the reality of the situation and would rather win the Party Nomination by a back channel Rules Committee and basically give an entire generation of Americans a reason to give up on politics and remember why they haven't voted in past.
Hillary is a legitimate candidate but she has only herself to blame for losing the nomination. I can't stand the selfishness of many of the Clinton supporters at this point who would put Clinton over what is clearly best for the party at this point. It's about John McCain and how horrible that would be. It's about a message and image that this party needs to capitalize on.
Sorry Clinton but now its time for Democrats.
Posted by: none to say | May 17, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Hillary thought Obama would and could not win the nomination, and to be perfectly honest so did I. Who was this black guy thinking he could be the president of the United States? Did he not know that this was Hillary Clinton's job,and she and Bill owned stock in the White House? HIllary supporters be advised that Barack Obama did not make people vote for him. Note that Hillary Clinton has been through the presidential process twice. Did she not know to pick a better guy beside Penn to lead her campaign. Who squandered her campaign funds?
Hillary sank her ownself when she started to talk with a fork tongue (lie). She did not have to tell that lie about Bosnia. People liked her for who she was, and she never apologized for the lie. Her reasoning was she didn't know why she said it. All she had to be was herself, and get the votes. Then she turned to dirty mouth against Obama. When you lay down with the pigs, you smell like one. She hurt her character. Can we really trust this one to deal with our country if she is going to lie about something as simple as a trip to Bosnia?
Many will say experience counts, but it has been experience that has gotten us with high gas price, foreclosures at a record high, and no jobs. Experience has not worked for the last 8 years, and we need a change ---Hillary Clinton is for the old way. She and Bill has made their 109 millions, so they do not have to worry.
She has fooled the white working class into believing she is one of them--no she is not. And she will never be. But she could be the president of WV like Jay Leno said.
Posted by: Terry NC | May 17, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Quoting HE:
Hillary Rodham Clinton has just vowed to obliterate Iran.
Another in an endless series of falsifications. She didnd't say anything close to that.
I think the democratic primary is becoming more and more like wrestling ... full of idiot simplifications, that get people stirred up ... I guess life is more exciting when when you falsify ...
Posted by: vincent | May 17, 2008 at 04:19 PM
Hillary threats to obliterate Iran serves as
prevention of a war.
If Iran attacks Israel with nuclear weapon, America would have to take side, wouldn't it? Can you just watch your ally get creamed and stay out at sideline.
A strong statement is the best prevention of war.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 17, 2008 at 04:46 PM
If you quote hillary correctly she said if iran ever unleashed a nuclear assault on Israel she would obliterate Iran. I would stand by that decision. What? Would you people want to sit around while someone just goes around dropping nukes on every surrounding country? Then expect some sort of peace talk to happen? Hell no.
Posted by: i think some of you are confused | May 17, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Hillary is an All American who has paid 30m tax with no deduction.
She is paying for this campaign for 20m dollars now. The Clintons have been working for this country and deserve lots of credit.
BO is just hot air with poetic promises of change. BO is a phony.
Todd Spivak of the Houston Press has documented how Obama accomplished next to nothing in his first six years in the Illinois legislature.
Then Emil Jones Jr. an African American with thirty years in the legislature made Obama a sponsor of 26 bills that became law. This is how BO portrays himself as a highly successful legislator.
This is just like giving him the ball at 1 yard line.
Has Obama repaid Jones? Yes. He has provided tens of millions in earmarks for Jones' district. As to such actions, Jones famously said: "Some call it pork; I call it steak."
Michelle Obama's salary at University of Chicago Hospitals when her husband won the US Senate seat was $121,000. Within weeks of his swearing in, her salary went to over $320,000. The following year Obama did an earmark request for $1 million for her employer.
BO's credential passed in the net is fabricated and not true; FACTCHECK says don't believe it.
BO does not have the stamina and tenacity to be a true, and solid reformer. He ducks and quits on people.
Let people's voices heard; let every vote count.
Hillary all the way.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 17, 2008 at 04:56 PM
What did the Clintons did for this country.
In 1988, crime was perhaps the biggest issue in the election campaign. Blacks saw the death penalty as racially unfair. The country demanded a hard line against crime and too often associated that crime with blacks. Today, by contrast, roughly 1% of Americans say crime is their top issue, and no one even knows Obama's position on the death penalty is. Bill Clinton, his policies especially his bold proposal for 100,000 new cops, helped bring down the crime rate.
In the mid-1980s, pollsters found that government help for the needy was seen as welfare by voters, taking money from whites to give to undeserving blacks. That attitude was unfair, but it was a political reality. Clinton changed that when he reformed welfare in 1996. By making it brutally clear that people who didn't work wouldn't get much help from Washington. The Clintons made it harder for Republicans to tag Democratic antipoverty programs as handouts to "welfare queens."
The Clinton presidency restored the Democratic Party's reputation for economic management, which Jimmy Carter had nearly destroyed. By almost 20 points, according to the Pew Research Center, Americans today trust Democrats over Republicans to guide the economy. BO could not achieved this behind a podium
If Clintons had been more like Obama--he might have vetoed welfare reform and unambiguously defended affirmative action. He might also have gone with his liberal base and chosen economic stimulus over deficit reduction in 1993.
What BO did was Rev Wright, Rezko, taking credits not duly his, and put on a show arranged by the party pundits to do away strong leadership from the Clintons.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 17, 2008 at 05:00 PM
The worst pander is from BO:
Giving legal driver license for illegal immigrants.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 17, 2008 at 05:08 PM
TO BJ
That is the best opinion I have read in months. It really comes down to the DNC. Not the candidates or the voters. I would add that one would think that with the Obama craze, backing and coverage that he would have left Clinton in the dust by now. Doen't that speak to a lot of people? Think hard about that one. The party will get through this, however the support that the Dems are getting from Independents and the like will fade away.......... far away.............................................
Posted by: Lisa | May 18, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Someone told me that the folks in Kentucky and W Virginia are still back in the '60s They didn't say whether that was 1960s or 1860s. Please help.
I'm some distance away from the US, but some of the remarks by folk who say that they are Hillary supporters make me think I've blundered into a KKK meeting.
Dennis
Posted by: Dennis Millett | May 20, 2008 at 07:35 PM
I agree, another example of sexism in the media. Don't worry though the Animal Farm Lefty is going to see a huge turnout in Nov. if he is the nominee, and it isn't going to be for him.
Posted by: Anee | May 24, 2008 at 12:40 PM
You GO, Mr. Malcolm! Actually, it is good to see Mr. Malcolm come out and play with his many fans sometimes.LOL!
Hey blogger BOB, if you can't take the heat leave your wife in the kitchen!
(Thanks for the support--and readership.)
Posted by: robinia | May 24, 2008 at 02:10 PM
You are welcome Mr. Malcolm. May I thank you for making politics fun to read for those "politics-challenged-gurus" like myself. Your far-fetched posts are a breath of fresh air. Need I say that this 'photo' of Hillary is absolutely'HILLARY-IOUS"!
So, if she looks like "voodoo on a stick" after an overwhelming victory, heaven only knows what she's capable of looking like when angry and frustrated. Lols..
(Happy Holiday too.)
Posted by: robinia | May 25, 2008 at 03:50 PM
Andrew,
Are you Charlie's Grandpa who gets photo credit here?
Congratulations!!
While I've got your attention, let me mention that you've not written a word about Ron Paul since he received 24% of the Republican presidential primary vote in Idaho...If you've been busy holding Charlie, though, you're forgiven for missing that great story!
Posted by: Tominellay | June 02, 2008 at 05:23 PM