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Is Hillary Clinton preparing for the end? Signs say yes

June 2, 2008 | 11:07 am

For political junkies, part of the fun of watching politics is reading the tea leaves. Admit it. Most of you probably saw friends over the weekend -- a little barbecue, maybe, or a kids' sports match.

And if you talked about politics, chances are good the conversation included a little chatter about how and where the Democrats are going to finish up after Tuesday's final votes in Montana and SoNew York Senator Hillary Clinton appears about ready to close the curtain on her one-time frontrunning presidential campaignuth Dakota.

Well, three fresh factoids have caught our eye. First, Hillary Clinton announced this morning that she'll spend Tuesday evening in New York, the city that never sleeps and that she represents in the U.S. Senate. Not in Montana or South Dakota, where people are voting, but New York City.

Second, Bill Clinton told folks in South Dakota this morning that "this may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind. I thought I was out of politics, till Hillary decided to run. But it has been one of the greatest honors of my life to go around and campaign for her for president."

Third, the folks at Politico report that Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesman, tells them that "we just haven't figured out our schedule past Tuesday," so many members of the advance team are being sent home.

(UPDATE: A fourth factoid -- Tom Edsall reports over on Huffington Post that Clinton has taken the "unusual move" of summoning "top donors and backers to attend her speech" Tuesday night in New York.)

Barack Obama has scheduled his own election-night event in St. Paul, site of the September Republican National Convention, and his event can be read as a salvo across the bow for the fall election. What can be inferred from Clinton's picking New York City? Well, it is close to home, and it would be a symbolic place to announce that she is ending her historic run for the White House and devoting her full attentions to the Senate job.

Of course, it could be she just wants to repack a suitcase to start visiting superdelegates in person. But after the Democratic rules committee decision Saturday, the steady seepage of superdelegates Obama's way, and the campaign telling its advance people to take some time off, you gotta wonder.

(UPDATE II: Our colleague Noam Levey reports from South Dakota that Elleithee told reporters aboard the campaign plane this afternoon that "we do not expect a nominee will be clear tomorrow night," signaling that the campaign probably would not end Tuesday. But the Associated Press reports that Clinton advisor Harold Ickes and fundraising director Jonathan Mantz told donors Monday that Clinton probably wouldn't appeal the DNC rules committee decision, and that the campaign expected Obama to secure enough delegates by Wednesday to claim victory.)

-- Scott Martelle

Photo: Associated Press


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I believe Senator Clinton will do the right thing for her party and for herself. She will bow out this week.

If she is not the VP, she probably will be the first woman Senate Majority Leader, a very powerful position.

So Senator Obama is going to be where?

St Paul, NY?

St Paul, MN?

St Paul, OR?

St Paul, MT?

For heaven's sakes! Journalism 101!!

What a relief it will be if Hillary finally gives up the in-party fight! Then the Democrats can focus their energy on actually winning the November election against their real opponents and calling off the circular firing squad. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a little forward-thinking on Tuesday....

Bye Billary, it's been fun!

A fourth "factoid"? Why are you printing "factoids"? Factoids are, by the correct definition, not facts. The word ends in "oid", meaning "like". It was created to refer to things people believe to be true and repeat as fact (originally the term was a direct reference to the tendency of the media to repeat an asserted belief as fact).

Through repeated misuse -- by the media no less -- the common usage of the word has come to refer to small, supposedly interesting but trivial bits of information (which makes your "common meaning" usage of it here bizarre in an entirely different way).

The word "factoid" is thus the victim of common stating and restating of something that has no actual basis in fact, until it becomes commonly accepted as fact -- and there's a word for that...

Convincing my family, not to vote for Senator Obama is still in the works. Senator McCain is a 'dark Horse' and he was heavily invested in the last Comprehensive immigration Reform; another name for AMNESTY. In my eyes they both condemned themselves. But my family needs Universal health care from Senator Clinton, after my daughter died from Cancer, as her employment insurance didn't cover the nightmare.

Paul in Ventura, Clinton will not become Majority Leader. Harry Reid is far too powerful in that position, and people just don't understand that.

Clinton has to decide if she wants to just return to the Senate, run for NY Governor, or demand the VP slot.

Thank God! Finally! Can't stand the woman!

The great thing about being a Democrat is that if you support Obama you are sexist and if you support Hillary you are racist. What a choice.

Now the real fight begins Hillary supporters will
enjoy what the Republicans have in store for
our Messiah Obama! This will be the worse defeat
since McGovern!

Why should Hillary quit? It would be like leaving a "whodunnit" play before the final act or leaving a basketball game early because your team is down a few points. If BO is so great, why hasn't he closed the deal yet? Hillary's tenacity has made more and more people aware of who BO & MO really are: Far Left Wing radicals who truly hate capitalism, hate America; what it stands for, and want to socialize our economy. I'd like to see this go to the Convention. I want to see the fur fly! This is better than all the Soap Operas combined!

Romeo asked:

>>Why does the electoral college decide who's gonna be the nominee, and not by popular vote,...

Probably because the electoral college decides who's going to be president. As long as the electoral college exists, you have to take it into account when nominating a candidate. The GOP uses the electoral college to decide how many delegates each state sends to their convention as well.

OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT!!!!!! its about damn time, Obama is the better candadite, and he will be the president.

Please stop bashing Hillary - enough. She is a powerful and accomplished woman in her own right. Let us respect that. The games she played, no matter how objectionable, are all part of the political rat race. I have been an Obama supporter long before he declared his campaign for President, and I find his ideas and plans very powerful. However, if Sen.Clinton were to be the nominee, I would vote for her, because I do not want more Republican policies and supreme court judges sitting and messing our lives for the next 30-50 years. Why badmouth someone who is a fellow Democrat?

Sen.Clinton could have run a more efficient, more dignified campaign, but that was not to be. But that does not diminish her potential and power. She will prove herself even better now, in how she is able to bring the party together, after saying the things she has said/done, and the kind of fanatic anger her followers seem to have (as do some Obama supporters). Only she has the power to heal them, along with Mr.Obama.

And for those Democrats who are going to sit at home or vote McCain because they may not get their candidate - also try cutting off your nose to spite your face. See how that works out for ya! I hope both Obama and Clinton supporters remember why they are Democrats before they start drowning in the haze of anger against candidates of their own party, because of race, or words or gender. What is at stake is far bigger than individual people - it is about policies, the future of this country and our children and theirs. Don't be so shortsighted and selfish in your anger.

No one, including Barak Obama, a Harvard lawyer, can use logic,
written contracts, empowerment of the Democratic party, and other
peaceful means so that over and above emancipation from under the table
nepotism created by unreported dna contributions of candidates who can
register for public office without placing their dna prints on file,
neither the right to cast an informed ballot, nor the right of children
(world wide) conceived by such dna contributions to be freed from the
'glass ceiling' that keeps them 'inside' the blood line security
'Serf's Down' chains of command resulting from looking so much like
their 'famous' progenitor can be furthered in any way by the strategy
of election, impeachment, and conviction of HRC re: co-conspirator re:
"Bill's babies" (1,000's of them)laid out here over the past six (6)
months and on file in the Dallas federal district court, and the Cedar
Rapids federal district court. {{Also xref: "The US Secret Police Bush
Family Dynasty" and the NYTimes.com or "Washington Post" "Open
Secret..." headline that followed which of the early posts regarding
this "Aeonflux" juggernaut vs. Private civilians like Paul McCartney
who are entitled to have large, rainbow peace families by dna
contribution without being required to report same}}

Did Obama EVER insinuate that Clinton was a Lesbian, while she insinuated on CBS (a mainstream media outlet) that Obama could possibly be Muslim. Did you see or hear outrage of that CBS insinuation from the Obama Campaign, but yet heard outrage from the Clinton campaign of sexism.... this prolonged election brought out some pretty ugly stuff.

As an Obama supporter, do I think he will do the best job of the 3 candidates? Honestly, I don't know. All I can go on is what I have seen and read about these 3 candidates for the past 16 months. This IS what I know:

McCain is too old. He is forgetting what he has said in past statements and is becoming the mother of all flip flop artists. His rhetoric tells me that he will get us into more wars if he is elected. Too hard line.

With Hillary, this country is going to get more of the same in terms of lack of transparency and hyper spin in her adminstration. Anybody tired of the Bush adminstration will be equally tired of her act. Do we honestly think we will get the truth out of the White House with her at the helm?

I get a sense that most Americans want a certain level of honestly in their politicians. THIS is the main reason that Obama has been so effective. He brings a level of integrity to the campaign. I can't think of much that I didn't think was geniune. Of the 3 candidates, he and John McCain are the only ones who have apologized and taken personal responsibility for some of the mistakes they have made in the campaign. He has run a successful and efficient campaign. He has raised more money from ordinary citizens than any other candidate ever. Finally, he has run a mostly positive campaign and did not take advantage of Clinton mispeaks and mistakes when he could have. A man who walks the walk instead of just talking it.

Finally, I think he has been judged unfairly by some of the people who he has associated with. It's fair to ask the question, but to make assumptions about those associations without any other evidence is ridiculous. If Mr. Obama truly held the views of Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Fleglar etc. don't you think some speech, or written document, or interview, or sound byte, or some witness accounts by or about Obama would have surfaced by now? Usually people who ascribe their beliefs to the beliefs of others display that from time to time. I wonder if Sean Hannity were running for president would some of his associations be suspect. If you live in a glass house don't throw stones.

G Casey,

You should be ashamed of yourself. Your choice of metaphor makes it clear that you are a virulent bigot who regards both women and African-Americans as animals.

It is sad to admit but Einstine was right in saying;" There is a limit to what we can know but no limit to how ignorant we might get." We in America are getting as dumb as a box of rocks,....the rockiest wabble, shake, in office. They shake the nation with their ignorance and attack the world with weapons they fear will be turned on them, cowards all!

Let knowledge and truth in love and understanding be the way we follow, string in truth not myth or lies.
LOVE WAYNE SR.

You Obama lemmings better be careful of what you wish for. How can this inexperienced man, who seems to have been given so many opportunities based on his potential, beat out an experienced senator and former POW?

Thank you Hillary. Now let's join Barack Obama and go beat McSame.

"Why should Hillary quit? It would be like leaving a "whodunnit" play before the final act."

Only if the play had a blood-drenched butler appear in Act II, only to come on and deliver a soliloquy commencing with "I, who am such a guilty butler, did indeed kill the sad victim..."

And maybe the air-conditioning is not working in the theater. Let's go get a drink.

too bad the democratic party remains an expert on tripping on its own feet.

it had two great candidates...and what happened?

they have already done all of the dirty work for the republican party.

they have split their own party down the middle, some clinton voters already claiming they will vote for mccain instead of obama in the presidential election.

instead of hammering the shortcomings and screw ups of george bush, clinton & obama attacked each other to smithereens...

and now bush seems to be a forgotten man...

if the democratic party can't win an election after 8 horrible years of bush, then they simply can't win.

- a registered democrat

A couple of years ago, there was a t.v. drama that starred Geena Davis titled "Commander in Chief" on ABC. In it's freshmen season it was higly touted and publicized. In a way, it almost seemed as if this show was silently campaigning for Hillary, because in those days it was a strong speculation that she would run for President. The second season proved to be fatal -for whatever reason, low ratings, re-scheduling, blah-blah-blah,- and was axed unceremoniously.

Karma, providence, or whatever... at its best.

There came a point when Ms. Clinton crossed that fine-line from tough and tenacious, to desperate and pathetic. It's too bad, really. She just didn't know "when" to surrender.

All these blunders in the past month or two, on her part, have ruined her crediblity and the political bite to even run a campaign in 2012. She's not as smart as everyone thought.

Honestly, she lost it with me when she was clamoring for "change", only to have her husband Bill standing right behind her. It was an "oxymoron" of an image. She lost my attention and any credibility, right at that point.

 


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