Bill Clinton vs. Hillary Clinton: Who wins?
The combative Democratic presidential primary ended with Bill and Hillary Clinton essentially tied ... with each other (though perhaps with a slight edge for the ex-president).
In the new L.A. Times/Bloomberg national poll, 52% of registered voters expressed positive feelings about Bill and 49% said the same about Hillary -- a gap well within the survey's margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Negative attitudes toward the two also are about the same -- 36% gave Bill the thumbs down, while 39% said they didn't much care for Hillary.
But Bill gains an advantage when comparing the gap between their positive and negative numbers. The margin for him is plus 16 points, for her its plus 10 points.
The poll gave Barack Obama a double-digit lead in his White House matchup with John McCain, and this preference among voters is reflected, not surprisingly, in their attitudes toward the two.
In the survey, 59% said they felt positively about Obama while 27% expressed negative feelings -- a difference of plus 32 points.
For McCain, the numbers were 47% positive, 35% negative, a difference of plus 12 points.
The overarching political trends McCain is grappling with were underscored by the results for three similar questions.
Asked about the Democratic Party, 51% said they felt positively about it, 30% negatively, a margin of plus 21 points.
The numbers for the Republican Party were 29% positive, 53% negative, a margin of minus 24 points.
But here's the major drag on all things GOP. Asked about President Bush, 24% gave him positive marks, 68% negative ones -- a difference of minus 44 points.
-- Don Frederick
Photo credit: Associated Press
Who cares! i am so sick of these socialists i could scream.
they ahve done their damage now they should go away!
JUST GO AWAY!
Posted by: viktor | June 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Bill Clinton was a great President of the USA, but he unfortuantely committed the worst offense ever in our Oval Office, and I will never forgive him for that. However, we need Bill Clinton back in our government, and I am hoping Barack Obama uses him appropriatley. As for Hillary, I still want her to be president and am so very saddened that she did not make it. I hope Barack utilizes her. Hillary is a champion of the poor and has done so much to help out. Everyone in America deserves the right to great medical care, and I pray daily for universal health care. Go Hillary and Bill!
Posted by: Love them in Scottsdale | June 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Bill Clinton vs. Hillary Clinton: Who wins?
If either one wins the country in general will lose
Posted by: Kevo | June 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Worst offense ever in our Oval Office? That's the worst offense committed in the Oval Office that you can think of? You seriously need to bone up on your history. A blow job is among the least heinous acts committed there.
Posted by: Jon R. | June 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Wow! The two extremes. Either Bill was our first socialist president (viktor) or our best (scottsdale). The truth lies somewhere in between. Not socialists (can't imagine where that idea comes from) and not the worst offense ever in our oval office. I think Nixon and shrub committed acts of treason in the oval office so it's hard to understand how messing with the intern could even approach that. I say Bill was OK, certainly better than the two morons before him (one being our first serving senile president, talk about affirmative action!). Hillary might turn out to be a decent senator but she exudes a air of entitlement that turns off lots of people (39 percent according to the article above.), myself included.
Posted by: John | June 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM
-- "Bill Clinton was a great President of the USA, but he unfortuantely committed the worst offense ever in our Oval Office, and I will never forgive him for that."
Cmmon, lady! It is the president of United States of America we are talking about here. And whatever he did as a man (human, by the way) has NOTHING to do with "offense in your Oval Office".
You watch too much crap on TV, and make too much noise about somebody's personal business. This is ridiculous how man of such power could go down that fast after a simple and, statistically, very frequent among humans sex affair..
Posted by: smile | June 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM
"Who Cares" don't we have other more pressing issues to be concerned about?
Posted by: Dean | June 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM
socialism is a good thing viktor
Posted by: evan | June 25, 2008 at 12:25 PM
It would be interesting to get a little more granular info into the lifestyles and beliefs of the 24% of those polled who support Pres. Bush. Who are these people? Would they be rallying around the occupant of the Oval Office no matter who it is? Are they patriots, ill-informed idiots, or absolutists who believe that not matter what -- thy presidential father, who art thou in Washington deserves their allegiance?
Posted by: Doovid Soss | June 25, 2008 at 12:25 PM
This is quite possibly the stupidest use of statistics I've seen to date. All "gaps" were doubled since someone who's against something automatically withdraws from the "for" camp.
This was especially moronic:
"But Bill gains an advantage when comparing the gap between their positive and negative numbers. The margin for him is plus 16 points, for her its plus 10 points."
But hey, since you doubled the number for no reason, why don't you double the margin of error too? Which puts us right back where we were before we started manipulating numbers.
Posted by: Elithrion | June 25, 2008 at 12:25 PM
No more Billary please. Why "they" were ever elected in the '90s, we conservatives will always wonder. I agree with the first comment...no more socialism. Just go away.
Posted by: A conservative Southerner | June 25, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Wasn't the worse offense ever in the White House I don't know something more in the line of abuse of political power, i.e. Nixon, Adams, Jackson, dare I say Bush, not lying about an extramarital affair? President Clinton as a politician did great things for this county socially, economically, and diplomatically. Did he fail as a husband only one woman has ever been able to make that call and she has.
Posted by: Zack Hale | June 25, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Bill was a fantastic president. Do you actually believe that he was the only president to get some on the side? Our economy was the best that it was in a long time. Everyone needs to get over it. Thats the only thing people have against him.
Posted by: Take dem blinders off | June 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM
"..he unfortuantely committed the worst offense ever in our Oval Office, and I will never forgive him for that. However, we need Bill Clinton back in our government"
The Logic of a Democrat will Never Cease to Amaze Me!!
Posted by: xhrist | June 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM
they both fail epically
Posted by: bob | June 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Love them in Scottsdale -
How is getting a BJ the worst offense ever committed in the Oval Office? Are you high? Is that really worse than committing to an unfounded war where thousands of Americans will be sent off to die?
No wonder this country is so screwed up!
Posted by: Give me a break | June 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM
I'm for Hillary and Bill all the way. I think Obama is a danger to our country and gov. I'm still holding out for Hillary to be the democratic choice for our next president. Hillary and Bill know what to do with our economy better than BO and we can once again enjoy a prosperous US. This election is all about race!!! People are voting just to have the first black president, the blacks r voting for color period and some whites too, out of consciencous, guilt or just proving they r not prejudice. I know we r not ready for BO, not today. Let him mature and or another wonderful balck person come into light. BO is not the one. Go Hillary and Bill!!! Bless you
Posted by: marjorie | June 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM
viktor is under the age of 13. Read the instructions before posting.
Posted by: leroy | June 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Hey, if I smoke two packs a day and drink 10 beers a day, am I still entitled to great medical care? Oh, i also eat fast food every day and am 75 pounds overweight - but that's ok right? Everyone else is footing the bill - thanks!
Posted by: Todd | June 25, 2008 at 12:43 PM
When the Karl Marxist Socialists takeover this country and set the stage for the eventual demise of this nation's democratic principles and the Republic for which those principles stand, you liberals can all prepare for the marriage between Socialism and the principles of Islamic enfluence that will in time grip this country. How ironic that all the gains that women and homosexuals have made over the past 2 decades will slowly begin to erode as Islamic extremists force their will on lthe minorities and gays. Look at Western Europe if you want a good footprint of what is to come to the United States.
As for me, I am leaving the USA as quickly as possible after the socialists take control. I know that 62% of the country won't miss me and the 38% who shared my values, principles and love for this Republic may well consider joining me on departure from lthis sick and misguided country.
So, you liberals, socialists and pinkos may well soon have your "Nanny" state with universal health care, almost free college educations and a military defense that will be inferior to China. Who will pay for all these so-called freebees! You will because most hard-working, family orented Americans will be opting out from the lunacy of the left.
You want Obama? You can have him. As for me, "give me liberty or give me death!" Under Socialism, you will all be wards of the state and your pink butts will belong to the Federal Government.
Posted by: Larkin Mead | June 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Since the the positive and negative poll numbers are within the margin of error and therefore too close to make a conclusion, then adding them together doesn't change this. Thee 10 and 16 point differences are still within the margin of error and therefore we can't say that there is a statistical difference between them
Posted by: michael C | June 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM
"...he unfortuantely committed the worst offense ever in our Oval Office.." Right. The man lied. About a blowjob. That's WAY worse than, oh, let's see... Lying about Iraq? Ignoring the Constitution and Geneva Conventions? "Leaking" the identity of intelligence officers as a punishment (and then lying about it)? Ignoring the plight of the Katrina victims? Need we go on? Clinton may have been getting head, but at least he didn't trash the country in the process.
Posted by: Dave Greenwell | June 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM
what a wasted article... Bill Vs. Hillary... Oh Brother... they've so got it made in the shade... Obama wants to help Hillary with 10 Mil? ...Oh please... they dont need the f'in money. This is all such a joke of Politics...
Yes Viktor... just go away!
Posted by: lisalisa | June 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Anyone who thinks that the Clintons are socialists are greatly mistaken. Hillary was the most moderate candidate in the running, and Bill is often seen as the 'best Republican President' that the Democrats ever had. I hope Obama picks either John Edwards or Wes Clark personally.
Posted by: Adrian | June 25, 2008 at 12:50 PM
We only have a bit more than 4 mos. left to decide who will be our next President - this time more than ever I think the choice of Vice President could be a deciding factor in how folks vote. Everyone I talk to just can't decide so far. Face it, until the fight for the presidential nominations started, almost no one outside Illinois ever heard of Obama - he is still a question mark. And with McCain it's the age factor and his fiery temper. I think their picks for vice president is absolutely crucial to how most people will decide their vote come November.
Posted by: Diane Laverne | June 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM