What if Hillary Clinton had treated Iowa like Barack Obama has Ky. and W. Va.?

Barack Obama ultimately disrespected Kentucky even more than he did West Virginia; he at least made an 11th-hour stop (albeit a brief one) in the latter state the day before its presidential primary last Tuesday.

In the walk-up to Kentucky's nomination contest this Tuesday, the closest he's come to its borders was when he was at home in Chicago on Thursday.**

Since then, he's gone off to South Dakota, Oregon (which also has a primary Tuesday, and where he was greeted by a massive crowd, at left, on Sunday) and Montana (June 3). Tuesday night will find him in Iowa -- not only the site of the caucus win that first fueled his candidacy, but a likely key swing state come November.

Obama's hands-off approach to West Virginia and Kentucky is striking to us on two counts.

One, public protestations notwithstanding, his willingness to concede them to Hillary Clinton in the Democratic race is an unmistakable signal that as he and his aides look toward the general election, neither state figures in its Electoral College calculations. (They are not alone in this assumption -- an astute overlook of the electoral map posted on Salon.com late last week by Democratic pollster Paul Maslin did not include either on the list of 17 states he views as competitive, to varying degrees, in an Obama-John McCain match-up.)

Secondly, it caused us to hark back to the very early stages of the campaign and wonder: What if Clinton had followed the controversial advice of her then-deputy campaign manager, Mike Henry, and taken a pass on a full-fledged effort to win the Jan. 3 caucuses in Iowa?

It was almost exactly a year ago -- May 21 -- that Henry (who left the campaign shortly after Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle was replaced early this year) wrote an in-house memo ...

... that urged a "new approach to winning the Democratic nomination" that centered on "skipping the Iowa caucuses and dedicating more of (Clinton's) time and financial resources" to other contests, especially the "20-plus state primaries on Feb. 5."

The memo leaked, of course, creating a dust-up and causing Clinton and all of her other top aides to insist that Iowa was sacrosanct and she would never, ever not fully compete there. (For a trip down memory lane, the full Henry proposal can be read here.)

Hindsight gives the memo a sheen it lacked at the time, when it was widely dismissed as pointless out-of-the-box thinking that would be folly for Clinton to follow. And it is immeasurably easier for Obama to ignore West Virginia and Kentucky with his party's nomination within his grasp then it would have been for Clinton to stiff-arm Iowa before a single vote had been cast.

Still, imagine one possible outcome if she had decided to mail it in there -- a John Edwards victory in the caucuses (as it was, the tally wound up Obama, 38; Edwards, 30%, Clinton 29%).

Who knows the course the race would have taken if Edwards had grabbed first place. But Obama and his followers would have lacked the sense of empowerment and possibility that Iowa provided him.

-- Don Frederick

** [UPDATE: Several readers questioned our phrasing about Obama ignoring Kentucky, noting correctly that Obama did hold a rally in Louisville on May 12, the Monday before the West Virginia vote. We were focused on his travels since that primary, but concede that may have been putting too fine a point on the matter. The Louisville event, by the way, was his first in Kentucky since last summer].

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Comments

[Marks]

>Obama's hands-off approach to West Virginia and Kentucky is striking to us on two counts.

Presidential candidates in past general elections skipped campaigning in states, primaries are less important right?

Clinton passed Kansas and Nebraska that I know of. Did she visit Oklahoma?

Are you implying caucus states don't matter if their skipped?

Obama didn't visit El Paso, Texas when that claim Hispanics won't vote for black candidate. That wasn't a location for high delegate count but the symbolism could have done much for him.

Unless Obama was willing to spend a few days in Kentucky why do the stop and visit at one event.

He'll visit those passed by states and communities eventually as the nominee.

Every vote matters in each state. Everybody gets their chance in the general election.

[Brittanicus]

While Obama, Clinton and McCain exchanging barbs, the tainted Democrats led by Senator Feinstein are enacting a clandestine pro-immigration law. During the hours of darkness, the genuflecting politicians are pushing for a path to citizenship for unskilled workers in the service industry and guest worker program

Last Thursday, Ted Kennedy was co-ordinating Sen. Diane Feinstein, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and their (D-CA) managed to get a gigantic Illegal Alien Amnesty deceitfully attached to the Iraq War funding bill. Because this amnesty is attached to a so-called "must-pass" funding bill, it will now prove very difficult to defeat. Kennedy is in hospital, but it's doubted the bill will not be voted on..?

Our danger is SEVERE! Let me remind you of the stakes in this fight.
If it passes, this bill will GIVE AN AMNESTY to about 3 MILLION (MORE) Illegal Aliens agricultural workers and their families for five years (at least!). You the taxpayer will be paying for their medical care, schooling and much more; compliments of parasite employers and farmers.

TOGETHER Citizens and Permanent residence can defeat this repugnant bill. Call toll-free (202-224-3121) Fax for free NUMBERSUSA Jam politicians switch boards

[Rob Anderson]

The word 'disrespect' may be used as a noun only, not as a transitive verb.

[Gaias Child]

H. Clinton did ignore the caucuses generally and see what happened? Could have been worse if she'd tried using her reactive attack tactics.

[l. Johnson]

What if Hillary had not married Bill?

[N.E. BodybutHillary]

Wow Don, you have just given Hillary yet another scenario where she is at the mercy of circumstance. The vote of the people heavily indicate that Barack Obama is their choice for president either based on Hillary's repeatedly evident low ethics or maybe even on Barack's own choice to steer clear of gutter politics. Yes you are correct that Hillary has cornered the racist and sexist voting bloc. It would seem that avoiding concentrated masses of lower educated hate mongers has not hurt Barack.

[Sam from Seattle]

You cannot compare the first primary to the last few remaining ones. The first primary is of paramount importance: it introduces the candidate to the electorate, it helps set expectations, it can help build momentum, etc.

Honestly! You don't have to be a political pundit to see a flawed metaphor!

[Angel]

You all are so hypocritical and unfairly judgmental of that man. Get off your high horse and recognize how difficult it must be to try and accommodate everybody, sway many opposing viewpoints, attend the numerous appointments, please audiences, etc. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Stop whining already!

[Matty B]

Disrespect? Obama has only visited 47 states--does that mean he is disrespecting 3 states? Obama cares about every American as he has said time and time again. Don Frederick before you starting implying and using terms like disrespect I would talk with the Obama campaign and ask the question first.

[Penelope Grace]

"In the walk-up to Kentucky's nomination contest this Tuesday, the closest he's come to its borders was when he was at home in Chicago on Thursday."

I thought Louisville was in Kentucky. Either you don't know geography or you don't like FACTS getting in the way of a good story, eh?

Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of 8,000 at a rally in Louisville, Kentucky on May 12, 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7SLaZgco-U

[Ken R. Whittaker]

Why is this even relevant enough to post? Hindsight, the past, dead and gone. Coulda woulda shoulda. There's enough going on in this race at the PRESENT time to fill our heads ten times over.

[Michael]

neither state does figure into his plan.

this blog post is irrelevant.

[Matt]

What if Hillary treated Michigan and Florida like she said she would?

[Tom in Alabama]

In the words of Kenny Rogers...."you gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em" which is the smart decision Obama had to make in states like Kentucky and West Virginda. Time for the Dems to unite around Obama and to focus on the disastrous policies of McCain/Bush.

[Hope]

If I were Obama, I wouldn't go there either. That's like chasing after a man that does not want you. If they want Clinton, let her have her glory amongst losers.

The KY, OH and WV camps could have been a little more open-minded about receiving Obama's plan, but they weren't. Fact is, they are not, so why bother.

Obama was elsewhere and drew a crowd of 75,000 voters that *do* want to hear what he has to say.

Obama '08!

[Charles Cheese]

Until I read the byline, I was sure that this article had been penned by Billary herself.

[Mary]

Vote for Hillary Clinton! If she is not on the ticket - I am changing parties.

[sick of hypocrites and thier followers]

who cares anymore? I hear more people saying none of the above than I hear anyone supporting any of these loser hypocrites. Beware Hitler is rising in America and he is rising in the White house,in the oval office,truth is any of these puppets of the new world order already sold thier soul to the devil and are pledged to cook up the devils brew.your lives are at stake people,they have concentration camps already built and cattle cars,and processing stations already built and ready to move you to work camps if you dissent. Best be waking up people and start learning to question these pretenders instead of blindly following what they say.It is so extreme and you blind guides and blind followers will taste the wrath and whirlwind of your own making.Greed, and rage is your lot.

[The media decided this election]

The most significant thing that would've changed the direction of this primary is if the media hadn't been so complicit in handing Obama the nomination. The way they tiptoed around him and stroked him, while slinging mud and slurs nonstop at Clinton.

Even Frank Luntz stated throughout this primary there are things no one dared say about Obama (because the racist police has this contrary held hostage), but no one thinks twice about hurling anything at Clinton.

Sexism is alive and kicking and is Exhibit A in this primary.

We're disgusted. The Dem.s have lost a golden opportunity (again.) Obama will not win the general election. Obama-niacs can throw all their usual tempter tantrums, it won't change this fact.

The Dem.s foul up every opportunity. The only time the Dem.s get it together is when the Clintons are around.

[REspecting Hill]

What i think you have missed is noting that Obama may be avoiding being disrespectful to Hillary by not picking up a fight in the states where she is expected to do well, especially if the delegates are working in his favor. Remember how negative the campaign got in Penn, Ohio and Indiana. Why risk dividing the party further by putting her on the defensive.

[rat-terrier]

"Every vote counts" is a wonderful sentiment, but one that is simply not true, thanks to a thoroughly obsolete Electoral College system. Forgotten 2000 already?

Only swing states matter, not redneck enclaves like Kentucky and West Virginia that went 60% for a war criminal in 2004.

[PGO]

NOT ACCURATE TAKE IT DOWN
Obama Speaks in Louisville
by HQ UpdateTuesday, May 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Yesterday, Barack made his first campaign stop in the Bluegrass state at the Kentucky International Convention Center in Louisville. He spoke in front of a raucous crowd of 8,000 people.

[Clinton should run Independent]

High-larious how Obama can say Clinton is not attracting the African-American vote and no one cries "racism."

However, if Clinton (quoting the AP) stated Obama is not attracting the white, working class vote, Obama and his crazed followed all throw hissy fits and cry "racism."

That kind of double standard, irrational behavior will not fly in the general election.

Say hello to Pres. McCain. Unless Clinton runs as Independent!

[hazel]

Obama spent little time in CA also because he is running a primary campaign strategy that seems to be working pretty darn well so far. I understand folks in KY and VW may feel left out, but I'm sure Obama will spend some time in those states once he wins the nomination. Iconic West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd endorsed Obama today; "Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support."

[Kurt]

Are you really suggesting in this post that Clinton might have been better off with the Giuliani strategy of waiting until the big states? How did that work out for him?

[Fran]

Look, W. Virginia is a "white" state - Kentucky is probably the same. So why should a black man waste his f-----g time and money for bigots who vote "white" only rather than giving this guy a chance?

Don't even talk about disrespect. I find it appalling when people decide their votes on the color on one's skin. I find it appalling when people won't give him the time of day to present his case.

THIS IS WHAT I CALL DISRESEPCT. Amen!

[abt]

Don, you say Sen. Obama didn't go to Kentucky - when in fact he addressed a crowd of 8,000 in Louisville on May 12th - here it is on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7SLaZgco-U
So what are you talking about, please?

[Kalli]

Matty B, I hear Obama visited 57 states not including Hawaii and Alaska because his staff could not justify him visiting those two states. He visited 57 states and need to add one more state. He said it in Beaverton, OR, my mom laughed hysterically, priceless.

[No Juan For Me]

Brittanicus,
It's a little rich to have you come in and state your message: "TOGETHER Citizens and Permanent residence can defeat this repugnant bill. Call toll-free (202-224-3121) Fax for free NUMBERSUSA Jam politicians switch boards"

When JuanMcInsane, the crazy old fart that wants to turn over SW USA to Mexico led the rush to play dirty politics last year to hand over our country to illegals and Mexico.

If you are anti-illegal, then vote anybody but Juan Mcinsane.

[08vote]

For appearance and good gesture Obama should have campaigned (letting voters "get to know him better" and his talk of clean coal energy policies) by visiting West Virginia on 5/12 and 5/13, and spent that evening in Oregon for primary results. Obama should have also campaigned on 5/19 and 5/20 in Kentucky, and spend tomorrow evening in Iowa for primary results. His half-baked efforts in WVA and skipping Kentucky all together not good.

[John Paul Telhomme]

Donny,

Why are your words always negative when you think of or make references to Obama? Clinton would have been wise to "skip" Iowa but Obama? For you, he shows "disrespect" for W. Virgina and even more for Kentucky. (Your use of the word disrespect is, of course, not as elegant as mine). Has it occurred to you that simple strategic calculations offer the answer. Seriously, had he ignored (skipped) Pennsylvania he would not have been much worse of. Really, what was the net result of PA when he made all his losses back with NC and Indiana. I would have preferred it if he had put in a bit more time in India and snatched it from Hillary Clinton even if it were by a slim margin. The simple fact is this, Obama has consistently made good calculations and in so doing check-mated Hillary Clinton at every turn and now, John McCain and George Bush are twisting like pretzels. For a rookie senator, that is not bad.

[tashekor]

I guess those library computers are free...

[Paul]

Yes, indeed, and what if Hillary had taken the high road and declined to shove the campaign into the gutter by playing the race card? What then? Then she might at least be getting sympathy from people beyond her (new) base of the poorly educated and those believing a vote for Obama is a vote against All Women. Who knows? She might even be winning, rather than whining.

[blakestah]

WVa and KY are both double digit GOP wins in November. Obama has won the nomination, therefore they are utterly irrelevant. Who cares what KY and WVa think of Obama? They are GOING to vote McCain anyway.

The swing states are shaping up to be...

Michigan
Wisconsin
North Carolina
Virginia
Ohio
Florida

Figure on McCain to win Ohio and Florida, Obama to win Michigan and Wisconsin. Then, if Virginia or NC (more likely VA) go Obama, he will become president. Otherwise, it leans McCain. At least, that's the way it looks in May...it is a long way until November.

[Female demographic, don't vote Obama]

It is high-larious how African-Americans are revered and respected as a demographic, and everyone heeds their vote.

However, when women likewise vote collectively as a demographic they are maligned and ridiculed.

Typical and ironic that those proclaiming sexism doesn't exist out of one side of their mouth are condemning women for voting their mind out of the other.

Bottom line, it scares men when women have political power. The female demographic is massive (50%) and can achieve wonders when mobilized.

Clinton has mobilized women and women are not going to just line up behind Obama like docile sheep.

We will never vote Obama. He is not a good candidate. Clinton supporter, do not vote Obama. Vote Independent, vote McCain, make your voice heard the same way African-Americans made their voice heard. The difference is African-Americans are respected for doing the same thing.

[keith McGuffey]

Your comments at the least are misleading and at the most patently wrong. I saw Obama speak last Monday here in Louisville, Ky to a crowd of over 8,000 people. Michelle Obama has been crisscrossing the state in support of her husband all day today. Please get your facts straight before espousing your political propaganda.

[Mimi]

I blame the media. We should just let them vote who needs anyone else, Besides it's clear they are much more comfortable being called sexist rather than racist.

[Homer Simpson]

What if? What if? Just give up Hillary supporters. America has made its decision.

[Mimi]

I blame the media. We should just let them vote who needs anyone else, Besides it's clear they are much more comfortable being called sexist rather than racist.

[Chris Caso]

What if we all lived on mars? Idiots!

[Want to know...]

So, what do you have to say to this point?

"Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of 8,000 at a rally in Louisville, Kentucky on May 12, 2008."

Shouldn't you get your facts straight before you publish?

[Lisa Michelle Sanders]

Kentucky is voting by RACE, not by who the best candidate for the Democratic Party is.

Have you ever been to KY?

BTW: To the poster who calls himself "the media decided this election", Senator Obama has not lost ANYTHING.

If you think Barack will lose up to the old man, you obviously have NOT been paying attention.

You are citing Frank Luntz as if he means jackchit. The dude works for Faux!! He's the very same guy that worked extremely hard for the last three Repuggers who lost their supposedly safe seats in Congress. Turn off the FAUX and watch Olbermann Dude.

[thebob.bob]

It was Hillary's strategy to ignore all states except "The Big Ones" that disrespected, the Democratic Party and all the other 'small' states. She played the game and blew it. Sorry Hillary. No changing the rules in the middle of the game. You will not be forgiven.

[dave]

Whoever started this blog is dishonest,disingenious,crafty,a nincompoop,......please stop posting on it.

[xxxx]

Screw you. Hillary is so dead. Get over it.

[Pat Wilson]

What's that about Obama disrespecting Kentucky?
Obama has a campaign to manage and he's putting his money where he needs to.

Yeah! Clinton went to FLA and MI and ended up running out of money!
Give me a nominee that can run a campaign, pay his debts, organize from grass roots (I volunteered and saw it with my own eyes), and have money left.
This is not about gender or color people! Our country is broke and I want somebody that can demonstrate that he can do it right at LEAST at a campaign level. To me that's a test on its own.
YES HE CAN!

[ready 4 change`]

Remember how negative the campaign got in Penn, Ohio and Indiana? Why should Obama go to KY and risk dividing the party further by putting her on the defensive. Besides, Hillary has the racist vote of Penn, WV and KY, be happy with your outcome.

[Honeymoon in Teheran]

Elitists and snobs who are eager to visit Pyong Yang or
Teheran but will not even pay one visit to Kentucky need
not become president of the USA. Can anyone name two
countrys were sexism is more prevalent than North Korea
or Iran ? Dont be misled by the endorsments of gov Judas
or Hanoi Jane...Obama is definitely a crypto-sexist.

[Julie in Burbank]

WRONG. He visited Kentucky and I googled at least one major rally in Louisville, with 8000 people in attendance -- so why on earth are you publishing hitjobs on the guy? Here, let us help you do your job, fair and impartial and informed journalist:

http://www.kentucky.com/223/story/403179.html

Posted on Tue, May. 13, 2008
Obama returns
CANDIDATE RALLIES 8,000 IN LOUISVILLE
By Ryan Alessi
RALESSI@HERALD-LEADER.COM

The week before Kentucky's Democratic presidential primary, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama gave a general election speech Monday that bit at likely GOP nominee John McCain while also laying out policy goals and

[Pat Wilson]

To all Women:

Hillary will come back better and stronger.
The "women card" sounds terrible to my females ears.
Don't cut your noses in spite of your faces!

VOTE SMART! VOTE AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS!