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Spurred by Clinton/Obama battle, Hoosiers* voting early and often

The fact that ever-red Indiana is playing such an important role in the Democratic presidential race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is its own wonderful irony.

One of the keys to who will win Indiana will be the turnout of the vote in Marion County, the state's largest and one of few with a substantial African-American population.

So we turn to Brendan O'Shaughnessy of the Indianapolis Star for this take this morning:

With nearly twice as many Hoosiers voting early as did four years ago, officials say voters in Marion County are requesting Democratic ballots 3-to-1 over Republican ones so far.

Spurred by intense interest in the Democratic presidential race, more than 10,000 people per day have been casting early ballots this week across the state. The more than 113,000 votes counted through noon on Thursday easily surpassed the 57,000 absentee votes from the previous presidential primary, in 2004.

Marion County Clerk Beth White said the nearly 9,000 people who have voted early already outpace recent elections, and she expects it ...

* Not "Indianans," as this read initially. We can take a hint (see Comments section).

to pick up even more this weekend.

A group of local pastors is organizing a massive get-out-the-vote effort that aims to bring thousands of people to the City-County Building for early voting Sunday. White said the office will be open and ready for a big turnout.

The Rev. Charles Harrison, pastor of Barnes United Methodist Church on the Westside, said he and other pastors plan to bus people from five locations and from up to 100 churches to Downtown after Sunday services. He said the nonpartisan effort aims to get people involved in what he called a historic primary election.

"This is putting our faith into action," Harrison said. "It's the biggest mobilization effort I've ever seen, and I've been here 15 years."

-- Michael Tackett

Michael Tackett writes for the Swamp of the Chicago Tribune's Washington bureau.

 
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I believe the word you are looking for is Hoosier... Indianan is not a word to my knowledge. And if it is, no self respecting Hoosier would use it.

Indianians? Are you kidding me?

I bet this article was written by a Los Angelesite.

For shame...

INDIANAN? I Guess they have no idea about the Midwest in Los Angeles and assumed they would not have to learn for this political season. Let's show the rest of the country that we can't be tricked by the Media (that doesn't even know what to call us) and not tricked into their sensationalized coverage just to get ratings.

Go OBAMA!

Yes, we are called Hoosiers. See: Indiana University Hoosiers, Hoosiers (film), The Hoosier State (state nickname), etc.

It's Hoosiers, not "Indianans." Seriously.

Thank you, LA Times, for having the grace and good judgment to read your comments section. Now both of us learned something new today!


(You're welcome. We've always viewed The Ticket as a place for dialogue where, as you so smartly say, we can both learn. Thanks for reading and taking the time to leave a comment, even a nice one like this. :-) )

To Hilleritas and McCainites, please let us rally around Barak now, no more hate. He must do that which every politician must do. But with our support, he will be elected President. Perhaps a serious discussion on reparations for our past sins of slavery and Jim Crow laws can then begin. Once America has paid for it past mistakes by voting for Obama, and the Reparations checks are sent out, then the healing and acceptance of the majority can be considered by the minority. This is the "Change we can believe in!" otherwise, as Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright say, God D*** america.

While I doubt the authors meant anything derogatory with byline 'voing early and often', I dislike it. It brings to mind Chicago style voter fraud where dead people vote.

It is nice to see the authors reading the comments.

As a native Hoosier, I must thank you for correcting the article in your headline.

Just a heads-up: The link in Google news still reads "Indianans"

I’m a Canadian who works closely with many people internationally and I can tell you that the majority of the people that I have spoken to globally would much rather see Barack Obama as President than Hillary Clinton. While Hillary has proven that she is a whip smart politician and policy guru, she does not represent any significant change to the White House other than the fact that she is a female and she is a Democrat. The fact of the matter is almost all of the candidates who ran and/or are running are smart policy wonks and slick politicians. This is not revolutionary. What would be revolutionary would be voting for someone like Barack Obama who exhibits a certain sincerity, honesty and hopefulness that I have not seen in a politician in the US or abroad in most of my years. Here’s why I feel the way I do:

• He basically has run a skilful and well-organized campaign, even though does not have a lot of this so-called “experience”. This to me is a foreshadowing of the way he would run his administration. I am alarmed at the amount of people in Clinton’s campaign team that have: a) been fired b) resigned, or c) defected d) do even get me started about the lack of funds. Why would anyone vote for a President who couldn’t even maintain a consistent and competent campaign team?
• While not perfect, he still has managed to keep his campaigning “above the belt” so as not to disrespect or burn bridges with his opponents. This CANNOT be said of Hillary and/or John McCain. Take a look at their latest campaign ads. They come off looking like a bunch of sore losers, not presidential. Believe me, the international community is taking note…
• Obama has handled the many crises thrown his way with dignity and class. When the whole Rev. Wright mess got brought up (we in Canada and the rest of the world cannot understand why this is a scandal. We don’t choose our leaders based on what their ministers say or do), he commiserated with concerned voters and explained his position without slinging mud at his opponents. That is to be commended, not dismissed.
• He has already won the democratic nomination. Why is this even being debated? He needs 2,025 delegates to secure the nomination and he is less for 400 away from that number. Mathematically Hillary cannot secure the nom even if she won every state primary from now until June. Why is she still running? Oh, that’s right; to steal the nomination from the one guy who actually earned it. Why does this sound eerily familiar? If this happened, the United States would have no right to condemn countries like Zimbabwe for disenfranchising voters
• With regard to Florida and Michigan, Hillary only cared about you all when she realized that she was losing. She had no problem with the DNC rules when she maintained a 30 point lead throughout 2007. Don’t believe her when she says that she believes that your votes should count. She couldn’t have cared less 5 months ago!
• The Iraq War. I rest my case.

America, please vote for Obama now for your own sake! You cannot afford to have the same old- same old in the White House. Hillary is not much different from the Republicans and well, John McCain and George Bush appear to be ‘political lovers’, so there’s no hope there. On May 6th put this race to bed by voting for Obama in Indiana and North Carolina. DO NOT BE DISTRACTED BY NON-ISSUES! Vote Obama and gain the respect of the rest of the world!!!!

The real winner in the protracted Democratic nomination process is John Edwards. As it stands he will be the king-maker with his small but influential count of electoral college votes. The cost of his endorsement for either Obama or Clinton? His name in their VP slot.

Hey Canadian;
If I were you, I would pose the challenge to your NAFTA representative to divulge Barak's true intentions (re: his political flip-flopping on the whole free-trade issues).

DO NOT BE DISTRACTED BY NON-ISSUES!...??? HUH?

One? Kimberley? your opinion means less than nothing to me, this is an american issue, not a Canadian, two? Obamas inexperience means a lot when it comes to the U.S presidency. This is not Canada (some backwoods,Trailer Park Boy country) we are a real, productive, global leading country. Of course most people around the globe prefer to see Obama lead us, They want to see America fall, outside opinions there fore mean absolutely nothing. I am a Hillary supporter forever, much preferring her "style" of politics, I don't need a wimp running the country and feeling like they are above the common citizen. We need a president who understands and works to fix the problems "REAL" working class americans deal with.


(O.K., folks. The Internet is open to everybody. The Ticket gets quite a few international readers, who come here to learn about American politics in action in an historic election season. We think it's actually a good thing that the world wants to understand America better. So we're delighted with their attendance here. They're more than welcome, especially Canadians who turn out so many excellent comedians to entertain North Americans so cleverly. And the Comments section is open to all Ticket readers -- who are at least 13 years old blah blah blah.)

Who is that Canadian trying to tell the American people who they should vote for and not to vote for as the next president of United States. Why doesn't this person worry about his own country and let the Americans deicde who they want to. That is why Ameica is the greatest nation on the face of the earth because of its democracy.

Kimberly, there's nothing that you attributed to Obama that couldn't also be said about Hillary. Someone supporting Hillary could also say that she's run a skillful and well-organized campaign; that she represents sincerity, honesty, and hopefulness; that her campaigning has been "above the belt"; that she's handled crisis's with dignity and class; and they both oppose the Iraq war.

Also, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Obama has won the nomination. In fact, neither Clinton or Obama can possibly get enough delegates to secure the nomination, which is why Clinton has every right to continue campaigning.

What I do agree with you on, is that we shouldn't pay attention to non-issues... the American people who listened to negative campaigning is what allowed Bush to denigrate Gore and Kerry, two potentially great presidents, and gave us 8 years of the worst president in American history. We all need to look at how each candidate presents themself, and listen to what they each say about themselves... then make our decision based on that.

Brent

Does anyone really believe BO is all about change???? If he were, why on earth would so many entrenched career politicians endorse him when they know that change would mean the end of their world? C'mon Indiana, BO is just as much of a politician as Hillary and McCain but worse because he's presenting himself as an agent of change when he obviously isn't. BO is doling out $$$ and promises of cabinet positions to these superdelegates in exchange for their votes.

Letting Hillary count the Florida and Michigan votes would be like letting a football team staying on the field at halftime and scoring touchdowns against the opposing band. Wow! their drum sections was tough but we scored 10 touchdowns against their band and we won.YEA!

Why does Hillary seem like she will tell you anything just to get your vote? Despite the lack of coverage on her bad decisions......Obama is my guy......he can think on his feet.

Hillary supported NAFTA, the war in Iraq, and now she wants to cut gas tax for a few months even after economist say it won't help most Americans.

Hillary might talk a good game but she makes the wrong decisions....I want a really, really smart person in the White House......so Obama is who I support. I hope Obama wins in Indy and in NC, then we can put this mess to rest and get on with what matters like the war in Iraq and our energy problems.....also I like Obama’s deportment...and I think that it is important for bringing people together....which is what America needs right now....

My hopes and dreams of a united country are with Barack Obama.

crammonster - The enclosed link is why the "REAL" people don't want Hillary. Many Hoosiers have seen this and we are not happy about it. We are not sh*t as Michey Kantor puts it. I agree with the Canadian's comments above. He is viewing this from 'outside the box', unlike you, who is looking from the inside. No doubt you believe even the president's lies. What a shame. I believe it is called 'uninformed' .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MzByUHIzw&feature=email

To Rhammonsster,

Thank you for representing our country with ignorance, biggotry and arrogance. You are of exactly the mindset that the rest of the world has come to loathe our country for. Not only do you not care what the rest of the world thinks, you go above and beyond to demean other countries by tagging all Canadians as "backwoods, Trailer Park Boy country." I hate to break the news to you, but the vast majority of the U.S. is made up of rural "country" citizens no different than those in Canada.

Please do one of two things. 1) Wake up and become a citizen of the world and not just the U.S. or 2) Crawl into your hole and never come out. You do not represent the U.S. and, as such, should not speak for the U.S.

Furthermore, Clinton's style of politics are the same style of insider, power swinging politics we have seen for decades and look where it has brought us. You said "We need a president who understands...the problems REAL working class americans deal with." How, exactly, does Hillary Clinton, a rich woman with decades of pre-determined ties to Washington, lobbyists and PAC groups understand or relate to working class Americans more so than Barack Obama? Finally, Hillary Clinton is, in my opinion, the most divisive figure in American politics today (other than GWB, who will soon be a non-issue). NOTHING gets done in Washington without compromise from both parties. Do you honestly believe that HIllary Clinton is more likely to bridge that gap than Barack Obama?

Last, for the record and not that it should matter, but I am a Hoosier.. an educated, middle class, white man who voted early today at lunch for Barack Obama. I am exactly the demographic that the Clinton campaign has struggled to assert that Obama cannot carry. I disagree.

Reading Kimberly's comment, I'm reminded of one of the very few things most extreme religions have in common: the belief that theirs is the only "true" religion, the rest being scams. Yes, the other two candidates are 'policy gurus' as well as slick politicians - Obama, on the other hand, is merely the latter, with no real policy experience or even a sufficient grasp of the basics (as demonstrated in the ABC debate, when it was explained to him that one particular tax increase he planned would actually hit the middle-class hard - and had been tried in the past and actually *reduced* federal tax revenue, which is why President Clinton lowered it again - he simply changed the subject at the time, then quietly back-tracked later).

No, it's not normally a big deal what church someone goes to - but when someone follows an extremist like Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright, who preaches every week that everything from AIDS to 9/11 is America's own fault, it's another matter. Would Canadians tolerate someone who regularly attended events like that, or KKK meetings? I sincerely hope not - and neither should America.

Obama is nothing more than a well-polished, slick political salesman with ample funding - some it from the same sources he's attacked others for receiving contributions from! Clinton is certainly not perfect, particularly her billions of dollars of 'pork' earmark requests over the last year, but at least she has some understanding of her own policies! Perhaps Obama will too, in time - but six months before the Presidential election is far too late to try teaching someone basic economics and fiscal reality.

rhammonsster, your kind of xenophobic, dismissive rhetoric is exactly what is wrong with America. It's rather amusing to see your comment with a disclaimer from the moderators tacked on at the end, almost like the teacher saying "see me after class and let's discuss why what you did was wrong".

It is above compension that anyone would vote for Obama, no one would take their children and wife and self to hear the racist talk for 20 years, unless they believe all that is being said. Can you imagine what will
happen if he was to become president. If the super
delgates go over to him because they do not want to hurt black feelings and turn away young voters, we will
lose the election to McCain. As for black feelings about
white feelings? Also the young voters will just have to
grow up up like we all have done. I have been passionate over my choice over the years and I lived through the experience of not having him win. If they are
really sincere they will be there for the next election

rhammonsster - well done, you have managed to encabsulate everything that is wrong with Hillary. You're xenophobic and insulting attack on the poor little Canadian was shocking in and of itself, but then to read you were supporting Hillary and therefore a democrat was incredible. Your silly little rant sounded like it came straight from the mouth of Donald Rumsfled!

It is indeed time for a change.
Obama'08

The Almighty God bring up leaders and He bring them down. Why do you think America voted for George W. Bush?

I have one question for Barack Obama. What kind of christian are you, when you approve civil union? Do you read the Bible? And are you ready to follow what the King of kings is saying or are you ready for a compromise because you are a democrat?

Anyway, the more America seek to eliminate God from its society, the more America will zink into economic woes and other problems that will only take America to its knees.

Remember, Rome? It ruled the world, but it did not last. And America's position will soon be taken over.

The only way you can have a secure future, without fear, is to trust in God completely.

Check out user: obamabot. I have seen this posted elsewhere. It is a fake, and it shows that hateful racists are afraid of Obama and determined to use deception and fear to work against him. It is a stupid, heavy-handed attempt to caricature the candidate and his supporters, and to scare off white voters. We must take a stand against this or we will be their accomplices!

Conflict between democrats is also a GOP mission and it is having some success. Many of the most inflamatory remarks being made here are probably being made by Republicans trying to agitate us against each other. Let's do our candidates and our nation proud and change the tone of this debate.

it is truly sad that people must turn to deception and use tactics of fear to support their candidate. they do not realize that they themselves are being deceived.

I support Obama because:

-he took a stand against the Iraq war when it mattered.
-he does not support a gas-tax holiday that would raise gas prices, benefit oil companies, and perpetuate our dependence on oil (an economic, environmental, and SECURITY issue.)
-his response to distractions and controversies has showed even temperament, integrtiy, and thoughtfulness.
-he has made ethics a top priority and wants to stop playing destructive political games.
-he has shown that he is resilient and electable in the face of media smears and "swiftboating". The GOP is spending all of their energy trying to take out Obama. KARL ROVE has written an article with skewed stats in an attempt to bolster Clinton's "momentum". it's no wonder that Clinton's polls are looking a bit better, but I must wonder how Hillary "sniper-fire" Clinton will fare against John "war hero" McCain when republicans stop working FOR Senator Clinton.
-I work in a hospital in MA, and health care is important to me. I live in a state where we are proud of our health insurance progress, but where many people who previously could not afford health insurance are now punished and fined instead of being helped.
-His views on foreign policy also show thoughtfulness, a fresh approach which lends itself to diplomacy, and strength. The fact that he has lived abroad and has an inside perspective on multi-culturalism is great considering he will be elected the new leader of the free world.

Again, democrats should debate this one out, but we need to remain united lest we give the world four more years of destructive republican policy.

Wright is only being kept away until after the nomination. After it's too late for average Americans to see the radical elements around this elitist candidate.

My girlfriend said "Hoosier" was another word for "White trash".

Oh I get it, she's from Wisconsin...

To Rhammonsster,

I am an American. I read both your entry and Kimberly's and found yours deficient. She never felt the need to demean our nation, as you did hers by calling it a "Trailer Park Boy country". Her points were salient while yours rambled. I appreciate that you felt the need to respond to her, but I abhor the tone of your writing. It is such arrogance that drives much of the global dislike for Americans that we hear so much about. Your assertion that other nations "want to see America fall" is as thoughtless as any I have heard. We drive many other nations economies by our extreme skill at consumption (we are very good at it and we do it too much...), so if we fall, so will most other economies. To see this relationship, all you have to do is see how our current recession is effecting Europe.
Now, my advise to you is to keep quite, and vote for the next macho unilateralist who comes along. If eight years of this kind of punishment is not enough for you to learn better, there is nothing that I can say to you to help you to understand it. The rest of us with the ability to think will do the right thing and vote for the candidate that offers true change. Hopefully it is not too late...

I have to apologize to Kimberly from the US for calling Canada a "backwards, Trailer Park Boy country". These comments are obvisously from some that has no idea what is going on, just shows how this country elected George W Bush. He obviously has no clue the average Canadian is doing better than their US counterpart or that Canada is sitting on top of a ton of oil.

please, I have to almost laugh when I read how upset people get. My point was? This election is a mess enough without outside parties telling us how to vote, gee? did I say something that was less than true or hurtful? sorry, but out of every ten events the media carries about Obama/Clinton-9 of them are all but screaming how great Obama is (when he says almost nothing relevant to say about solving problems,only that he will solve them) and finding any slight at all on Hillary to show as a reason not to vote for her. I am a democrat not a liberal. Democrats care but we have sensibilities, liberals will do what they call the right thing, even if it only drags this country down further. Obama and ALL his followers are Liberals. And sorry Kimberly, but I do like the trailer park Boys

“…this is an american issue, not a Canadian, two? Obamas inexperience means a lot when it comes to the U.S presidency. This is not Canada (some backwoods,Trailer Park Boy country) we are a real, productive, global leading country..”

This type of rhetoric exemplifies perhaps one of the irremediable failings of the US. Not caring about perception of other nations, appearing to be an open to constructive criticism from our allies and solutions offered by their alternative systems of democratic governance and values (such as the Canadian health-care system that advisers of both Democratic candidates have been looking at very closely as the foreign model perhaps best adapted to the US to basic rights to health care provided by most civilized nations for decades).

As a American citizen that has been working abroad in the interests of the US for more than three decades, I've experienced on the on the frontlines the consequences of the myopic self-centered US foreign policy and fantasies of grandeur (“we are a real, productive global leading country”). By what measurement? By the level of household debt with average Americans apparently unable to live within their means as the rest of the world has been trying to minimize the damage caused by the subprime gangrene of the US economy, by our health standards as a country with the highest infant mortality rate among developed nations which is perhaps the most telling barometer of the health and moral values of a nation, or even something as basic as personal hygiene as a country whose epidemic obesity symbolizes an inability to to do something as simple as its control our daily calorie intake, stop eating when it we are no longer hungry or maintaining a lifestyle where simple sitdown meals represent the anchor for the organization of family life?

In any case, it should come as no surprise that the candidacy and election of Obama, would contribute greatly to partially recovering the enormous loss of goodwill and respect the US once benefited from. As for Clinton, she is perceived as trying to claim experience acquired when her husband was in the Oval Office and like many from the New York area, her use of New York as a trampoline for the presidency where she had absolutely no ties inspired distrust. It is no doubt for that reason that Obama garnered the majority of the delegates by first primary ever organized of the "Democrats abroad" organization that will attend the convention this year. His election by itself would after years of being a pariah among the nations of the world, incite respect and add at least some credibility to our claim to a prominent or even a meaningful place among democratic nations.

I, too, am Canadian, and this is your election, no question. This election is the business of American citizens, many of whom I'm proud to call friends and relatives. But it's also true that the next president of the United States will have a profound impact on the world -- this little space ship spinning round on its exis in this vast universe, which we all share. We are all on this ship together. And we'll either sail or sink together.

I'm a big supporter of Barack Obama. I believe he's a good and decent man with the will and ability to bring people together and make the world a better, safer place for all of us. I hope he will be given the opportunity. I believe with all my heart that he will make a wonderful President.

Re. previous poster:

- What are these media events where 9/10 are "screaming" how great Obama is? Honestly, you would have to say that is nowhere to be found today.
- ..."almost nothing relevant" being said by Obama? Let's simply look at the last week regarding energy policy. The almost unanimous opinion of economists - even pro-Clinton Paul Krugman - is that he is the only one saying anything relevant on this and that his plan actually solves the problem while the other two are not interested in solving anything except their own election.
- How does "doing the right thing" will "drag the country down? I am getting old enough to have had enough of doing the wrong thing to supposedly solve problems and then leading to our great country to getting dragged down even further.

And, as far as "ALL" of Obama's followers being liberal - (egads), I spoke with a conservative friend last night - if it's Hillary v McCain - he will vote McCain. If it is Obama v McCain he will vote Obama. He decided this right after all the attempts to fan the flames of controversy this week over Wright.

How many more?

It blows my mind sometimes to think that people really don't see Senator Clinton for who she is. I don't understand how people can vote for someone whom they overwhelmingly in the majority do not trust.

I mean - America...its time to wake up. The country voted for Bush not once but TWICE and I just have to shake my head when I see people continue to focus on the things that do not matter. In 2004 - it was "Don't let the gays marry.." blah blah blah. How about focusing on the real issues that actually make a difference in America for once. Wise up.

I also find it interesting that the more educated people are - the more they sway to Obama...think about that. He has a populist agenda that will allow the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy to expire, he wants to provide healthcare to every American and he wants to tie minimum wage to inflation....and while some of those policies may create higher taxes for those over $250k a year....people who pay attention to the news (and FOX doesn't count)...people who are fairly well educated - well they vote Obama at a 60% or more clip. So - what does that say about the rest of America?

It says this is our damn chance and I hope we don't screw it up this time. Clinton does not have a chance....start focusing on what matters: Getting out of Iraq because we can't afford 300 million a day on that operation and we shouldn't ask to see any more of our brave soldiers killed for something that has no end in sight, improving the strength of the dollar, fixing our economy and adding jobs, focusing on global warming, stopping the disappearance of our middle class, providing universal healthcare to all Americans, improving our education system (No Child Left Behind is a joke), and actually creating an environment where our politicians are held accountable for what they do...where ethics matters....where working together in a bi-partisan way matters.

Or we can discuss flag pins, Obama's preacher OVER AND OVER, whether or not you think he's an elitist. Damn - if you get this one wrong...there's no helping you. Make the right decision - start focusing on the things that matter.....before its too late.

It would be a massive threat to democracy if there isn't a recount in Michigan and Florida. I pray there is otherwise this contest will be shown to be bias, supporting Obama in a completley disgusting way. Give the american people their voice.

I totally agree with Viv, michigan and florida need their primary votes to count! these two states will play a huge part in the general election and right now I'm sure they feel completely disenfranchised from the whole electorial process. Of course, if their votes did count, it would balance out the race between Obama and HRC. Something Obama fantics will fight until the end.


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