Victorious Clinton vows to fight until 'everyone' is heard
Tuesday night, Barack Obama conceded West Virginia to Hillary Clinton in a cellphone voicemail from the runway in Cape Girardeau, Mo., to the phone of the New York senator's assistant, after an appearance aimed at
the general election against the Republican dude from Arizona.
A little PR payback perhaps for the private concessions Clinton has delivered after her previous defeats to Obama that deny the victor any TV footage of the loser talking defeat?
So this morning the Clinton-Obama wrestling match continues unabated and the New Yorker gave no sign in her public remarks of relenting in her campaign, although the delegate math seems so fully stacked against her.
"I am," Clinton told the crowd of West Virginia supporters, although she was really warning a couple hundred uncommitted Democratic superdelegates not to jump yet, "more determined than ever to carry on this campaign until everyone has had their voices heard."
Let's see, "everyone" means then at least all the way through June 3 and Montana where, coincidentally, another Clinton, named Bill, was speaking outdoors at the same moment as a mountain spring rain began to fall. So, no quitting after another Clinton win next week in Kentucky? Until all the ...
...voices are heard could also mean until all the currently discounted Florida and Michigan votes are counted too. Could that mean Denver in late August?
It was a big win for Clinton, who got about 67% of the vote. And a real thumping for Obama, who got only 26 points, fewer even than his crummy bowling score a while back in Pennsylvania. His camp saw the L coming, given his token campaign appearance there Monday. With most of the West Virginia results in, the Illinois senator had not won one single county in a state that, since 1916, Democratic presidential candidates must win in order to reach the White House.
Clinton was clearly delighted in her nationally televised remarks when she delivered an early and urgent plea for money. "Tonight," she said, "I need your help to continue this journey. We are in the homestretch -- only three weeks left. Your support can make the difference between winning and losing."
Standing alone on the stage with the full focus on her, Clinton wanted to project an image of strength and fuel the doubts in the superdelegates' minds about Obama's ability to win crucial states. The absence of Obama on camera provided no video contradiction that evening.
"This race isn't over yet," Clinton said, reading her prepared remarks that called her win "an overwhelming victory." "Neither of us have the total delegates needed to win."
"I am in this race because I believe I am the strongest candidate to lead our party in November 2008," she said, plowing through even prolonged applause. "And the strongest president to lead our nation in 2009. I deeply admire Sen. Obama. But I believe our case is stronger."
"The White House is won in the swing states," Clinton claimed. "And I am winning the swing states."
"You know," she said, "I'll never give up and I'll stand with you as long as you stand with me."
During her remarks Clinton pointed to one supporter in the crowd waving a sign, "Until the last dog dies."
A reference, no doubt, to the Michael Vick dog-fighting scandal.
Not.
--Andrew Malcolm
Photo: Hillary Clinton (Associated Press/Elise Amendola)
nice picture
Posted by: MaryJosephine | May 14, 2008 at 01:54 AM
She's not in the race to hear what everyone has to say, for if she were she'd admit the voices of common sense and decency into her head that are telling her to drop out of the race since she has no real chance of winning, not only by virtue of the numbers, but also because of Obama's superdelegate inertia.
If she were in it to hear what everyone has to say, then a major thrust of her campaigning would be to register new voters. Is it?
If she were in it to hear what everyone has to say, then why would she pander to the fears and prejudices of low-income white Americans, call them the only hard-working Americans, and disregard those who have made their vote in favor of Obama already?
She cloaks her ego and greed in a veil of altruism. She takes good words and spoils them. I can't believe people are still buying this "everyone should be heard" crap. Everyone SHOULD be heard, but you don't care about everyone. You only want to win!
Posted by: WA | May 14, 2008 at 02:19 AM
Obama needs to ease Hillary's exit. A good way to do that is to not get in the way of her having a big win. This allows her to raise funds to help retire her $20,000,000 debt. If she gets in, her creditors (special interest & wealthy) will come calling.
Yes, it's a gamble on Obama's part, but he's so far ahead, the only way Clinton can win is to use her scorched earth tactic.
West Virginia is probably a state that enjoys the status quo of the political environment in Washington.
Not sure why some people don't think slander, pander, and lies are ok for a presidential candidate.
The Clintons have their sights set. They are a powerhouse in their own right. Any action, appointment, or position will be used by her to attain her true goal.
Posted by: ToySoldier | May 14, 2008 at 02:27 AM
I AM NOT AMERICAN AND THEREFORE REALLY HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT ON AMERICAN DOMESTIC POLITICS. HOWEVER, AS AMERICA AND ITS LEADERS FROM EITHER END OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM PRESUMED TO LEAD THE WORLD IN POLITICAL AND SOCIAL IDEOLOGY, I BELIEVE MY THOUGHTS EXPRESSED HERE ARE PERTINENT.
HILARY ASPIRES TO BE PRESIDENT AND THEREFORE LEADER OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. RECENT RESULTS HAVE SHOWN THAT HER MAJORITY SUPPORT COMES FROM ELECTORATE WHO HAVE DEEP-SEATED RACIAL PREJUDICES AND SENTIMENTS.
I AM ONE OF THE BILLIONS OF NON-AMERICAN ASIANS, WITH KITH AND KIN WHO ARE MUSLIMS WHOSE VERY EXISTENCE ARE HATED (TO PUT IN MILDLY) BY THE PEOPLE ARE NOW OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTING HILARY. NOW, HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME FEEL? DON'T FORGET, SHE SUPPORTED THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ! HOW MANY INNOCENT IRAQIS HAVE BEEN MADE ORPHANS AND WIDOWS?
Posted by: JUST HARY | May 14, 2008 at 02:33 AM
What a bunch of crock. Hillary is running on the idea that her 'internship' for the presidency was enough to make her ready, when in reality, all she's doing is breaking the party. If she somehow manages to win the nomination, there is almost no way she can beat McCain - she's alienated too many Obama supporters for them to want to support her.
Capt. C. Price, USAF
Posted by: C. Price | May 14, 2008 at 02:34 AM
I am an Obama supporter and respect Sen Clinton decision. I am just not happy and disappointed by Sen Clinoton when she tries to change rules.
1) she knew MI and FL won't count and changing position when everything is against her
2) Magin number was 2025 and Last night on the WV win speech changed it to 2209......
Come'on...
Let Sen Clinton continue to campaigh but don't try to change the rules that could disintegrate the democratic party.
Cheers,
Sam
Posted by: Sam Ted | May 14, 2008 at 02:38 AM
STAY IN THE RACE. YOU DESERVE TO WIN THE NOMINATION. OBAMA IS NOT READY TO BE THE PRESIDENT. I DON'T LIKE THIS GUY AND I THINK HE IS VERY SCARY. BIG NEGATIVES WITH ME. THE SHOE IS GOING TO DROP AND HE WILL BE OUT.
Posted by: peggy magee | May 14, 2008 at 02:48 AM
perhaps clinton was referring to the only worthy candidate for PRESIDENT: RON PAUL, when she announced to continue her campaign until everyone had been heard. to date, this has clearly not been the case, and there's massive evidence of systematically instrumentalized media to manipulate the elections. (e.g. youtube, 'media caught lying' - jerry day)
Posted by: dave | May 14, 2008 at 02:49 AM
The pundits and nay sayers have been pronouncing her campaign dead almost since it began; but as Mark Twain might have put it,, "The reports of her [campaign‘s] death are greatly exaggerated.“ Here she is, still campaigning strongly and winning key states. Why? Along with being smart, tough, experienced and well prepared for the responsibilities of the oval office, Clinton has worked throughout her adult life to help the middle class and less privileged, and will continue so. She promises changes, and folks know her changes will be for the better.
Based on Obama’s achievements and experience to date, there’s little reason to believe he could or would be the leader we need. His scarcity of valid presidency qualifications--prepared plans/programs, experience, any bona fide accomplishments--along with his history, basic philosophy per his autobiography, his "selective" memory, and close ties to people like William Ayers, Louis Faraquan, el-slsl, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko cause deep concern about his qualifications, who he would choose as his advisers and cabinet, and where he would lead us.
As the campaigns progress and more of Obama's true character, history, etc., emerges, many voters have already had second thoughts about his self- proclaimed honesty, transparency & accountability (and also about his shortage of qualifications) and decided that Clinton is the better candidate. and many more voters will have second, & third, thoughts as they learn more. This is verified by the exit polls. The voters are opting for Clinton.
Posted by: Patrick Knif | May 14, 2008 at 02:50 AM
The pundits and nay sayers have been pronouncing her campaign dead almost since it began; but as Mark Twain might have said, “The reports of her [campaign‘s] death are greatly exaggerated.“ Here she is, still campaigning strongly and winning key states. Why? Along with being smart, tough, experienced and well prepared for the responsibilities of the oval office, Clinton has worked throughout her adult life to help the middle class and less privileged, and will continue so. She promises changes, and folks know her changes will be for the better.
Based on Obama’s achievements and experience to date, there’s little reason to believe he could or would be the leader we need. His scarcity of valid presidency qualifications--prepared plans/programs, experience, any bona fide accomplishments--along with his history, basic philosophy per his autobiography, his "selective" memory, and close ties to people like William Ayers, Louis Faraquan, el-slsl, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko cause deep concern about his qualifications, who he would choose as his advisers and cabinet, and where he would lead us.
As the campaigns progress and more of Obama's true character, history, etc., emerges, many voters have already had second thoughts about his self- proclaimed honesty, transparency & accountability (and also about his shortage of qualifications) and decided that Clinton is the better candidate. and many more voters will have second, & third, thoughts as they learn more. This is verified by the exit polls. The voters are opting for Clinton.
Posted by: Patrick Knif | May 14, 2008 at 02:53 AM
I have listened to negative press on Hillary for a year and a half while Obama has been given rave reviews. Count Michigan and Florida and you will find who American's really want as their president. West Virginia shows how well Obama will do in a general election. Experience counts!
Posted by: carlie | May 14, 2008 at 03:53 AM
What scares me, is that so few people recognize a dynasty in the making. Throughout history, dynasties have served the dynasty. They never serve the nation, or the people.
I disliked George Bush as pres, initially for little more reason than his father had been pres.
If I had no other reason to vote against Hillary, the fact that her husband had been the president would be enough.
IF she were to win, we could certainly count on her daughter running in about 20 years.
NO DYNASTY is my answer. The best reason to vote Obama, is that he is a new face.
That said, unless Obama actually starts TALKING about where he will lead this country, I'll probably vote McCain. We already know that McCain gave a lot to his country, only to sit in a POW camp for years. McCain will continue to give to his country.
Hillary will only take, and Obama is still a question mark. What DOES he have to give?
Posted by: Paul | May 14, 2008 at 04:04 AM
Well, even a 40-0 scoring football game in the 4th quarter with 10 seconds remaining is played out. She's a good sport.
Posted by: mandrake | May 14, 2008 at 04:17 AM
I cannot belive the people in west va are so blind that they follow the judis goat up the ramp to be behind ihe power hungry raitings of a women that has been used as a throwrug by her husband because she had to have what little power she got from the man that was suposed to love her and not anything that wore a skirt and was to blind to see thru him and his sick idear of what is and what is not sex but you people have made your choice now you will have to live with it. God help you.
Posted by: kenneth lavigne | May 14, 2008 at 04:19 AM
thats the problem white vote for Clinton and blacks vote for Obama thats ridiculous and thats what I was afraid of.
People in America chose their president on the base of color black or white?!
when do this country grow up.....
Posted by: bob | May 14, 2008 at 04:26 AM
Nice photo indeed. Hillary is utterly pathetic. Have any of her minions dared to break the news to their Mistress that de nile is something other than a river in egypt?
I must admit to a cruel chuckle at the thought of Hillary bragging of her victory on TV, then once the cameras are gone venting her spleen against above-mentioned minions because it must absolutely be crushing to know that it is the blindingly ignorant and racist white trash/rednecks/hillbillies who will vote for her, and not the educated and intellectual Americans among whom she considers herself to belong.
She must be inwardly humiliated and outraged. I know I would be if that's all I could get to vote for me!! And I don't have near enough the level of anger Hillary so obviously carries around with her.
Posted by: Muse | May 14, 2008 at 04:31 AM
The Polls are speaking very loud and clear...
Democratic voters are displaying "buyers remorse"... two-thirds of voters want Hillary to stay in the race.
Denver will be the best ticket of this decade!
Posted by: Randy | May 14, 2008 at 04:35 AM
From the start I consider Obama, as I did all candidates with a cynical eye. I also know more about Hillary because I am in Upstate NY.
I had an uneasy feeling about Obama, contrary to what Ted Kennedy and the Kennedy's say, Obama is no JFK. Obama comes across as a very upper class and very sleazy pandering used car salesman.
He'll woo you with empty words because he has no track record to back them. He'll tell you what you want to hear as he sits with his "I am greater than everyone" smug attitude actually believing that is ready to lead this the Greatest Nation in the world. He's not.
He is depending upon the smoke and mirrors of his double talk to convince us he is "the one".
This election process, more that any in the past, proves P.T. Barnum was correct. "There is a sucker born every minute" the Democrats who
have blindly, without real knowledge of who Obama is, and have backed him thus far, prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now that just a little of the true Obama is coming to light, after the media finally decided to look at him for who he is,
it is clear to see just how ignorant, gullible and frankly stupid most Americans are.
That sadly says a lot about why this country is in the shape that is in.
We, as a people, need to look past the BS of Obama, to see who he is(and only a small part of that information has come out)
and then we need to pick someone else to be president, with our eyes clear of the Obama BS and his smoke screen.
Frankly, and I cringe at this thought, McCain would be a much better pick than Obama.
But Hillary is the real deal and would truly make the Best President of the United States of the three candidates.
Posted by: Ernie | May 14, 2008 at 04:35 AM
HClinton has not demonstrated to me any kind of "fighter" image. She's insulting me. She has shown only the shallowness, pettiness, and self-serving nature of her quest. HClinton has slapped the people of Michigan in the face and now pretends she has no arms... claimed 7 or 8 months ago Michigan was meaningless, and now it's "key" because it serves her purpose. Claimed this was a "27-state" race a few months back, but only now all 50 states and various territories count to HRC. She has proven she will both objectify and condescend to minorities, women and "hard-working white Americans" without education in order to "make her case". Hillary, you are no Bill. And now even Bill seems like he's off his nut.
There is a reason HRC hasn't been able to "seal the deal" (one of her favorite expressions). Frankly, if this is how Hillary Clinton runs for office, what will she do in office? This is why the superdelegates must -- Lord, please -- step up and make a reasonable choice for Barack Obama. And by the looks of the Edwards vote last night, I think we have the perfect ticket.
How on earth HRC equates her scandal-riddled career with being able to beat McCain is beyond me. The GOP has enough to make her look like a double-speaking, opportunistic witch. McCain is sending the message that he personally won't play dirty with Barack (doubtless not speaking for the GOP), but Hillary is a different story entirely.
Barack/Edwards '08
Posted by: Jez | May 14, 2008 at 04:38 AM
If you watch sports, you'll hear the comentators stir the pot whether a team is highly outclassed or not. I don't take stock in the media and their predictions. I don't trust "any" politician.
McCain is the only one of the candidates with true experience if you want to be true to the facts. No president has experience until they are president.
All politicians have flaws.
I was very interested in Hillary until her husband lied on her behalf about Ruwanda saying she tried to get him to mobilize sooner to help them but he did not to his shame. He said this to mostly black crowd gain sympathy for her by throwing himself under the bus. A great tactic......but a bear faced lie. And I lost all respect for both clintons at that point.
Obama is flawed but I believe his motives are sincere. And he is the only one of the current choices we have that has a chance in hell at unifying not only the democratic party but everyone in general if he's able to put together the right team. I'd rather give him a chance than Hillary or McCain.
His color has nothing to do with my decision. I have a lot of respect for McCain as well ,though I don't want another republican in office.
There was a time I thought they should team up, but there's been so much bloodshed in this campaign. I think it is no longer possible or wise? I'm not sure.
Posted by: Steve | May 14, 2008 at 04:41 AM
The Media does not seem to accept that there are many grass roots voters who support Hillary Clinton. I am voting for Hillary Clinton whether or not she is on the ballot. I will write her in as a protest against the vitriolic press coverage she has endured. We need Hillary Clinton more than ever at this time in history. If this costs the Democrats the election, then so be it. I am tired of voting for candidates I did not pick. Hillary's plan for universal health care is the best.
Posted by: jenna cox | May 14, 2008 at 04:42 AM
Bama supporters don't seem to follow the qualities they claim to espouse: kindness, gentleness, accectance, tolerance--He has requested his supporters to cease their vitriolic jihad against Senator Clinton--But perhaps you are republicans--
Posted by: Doug | May 14, 2008 at 04:47 AM
Sam Ted:
How is it that Obama scares you? Not since JFK has any candidate spoken with such a message of hope, love and overcoming the problems of today's world. I do not mean to jump to conclusions, but the only way I can imagine that Obama scares you would be if you were a racist. It has become very clear to me and many others that Clinton is in the race for her own benefit. She wants to win for herself. If you just look into the eyes of each candidate you can see it yourself, in Obama's eyes are compassion and caring; all I see in Hilary's eyes is deviancy. As far as I can tell, the needs of you and I are second to her want, or what has become a physiological need, to win.
Posted by: spencer | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
I believe in positive change that starts with "Yes, we HAVE" and "Yes, we WILL" (rather than "Yes, we CAN"). I believe that when possible evolutionary development is more productive for humanity than revolutionary development. Therefore, I support Hillary Clinton for President and ask that you consider objectively her candidacy as well.
I am not either a Democrat or Republican but rather an Independent. For me, the individual candidates always take precedence over the political parties. I selected one Republican and three Democrats to review further and then narrowed my choice to Clinton. I am voting for Clinton NOT because she is a Democrat, a woman, an Anglo-American, a lawyer, and/or married with Bill Clinton. Rather, I am voting for Clinton because:
(1) I believe in her as a person;
(2) I believe in her platform (see http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ );
(3) I believe in her wealth of broad and long-term life and political experience;
(4) I believe that she is the BEST candidate to be President of our USA; and
(5) I believe that she is the BEST candidate to go up against McCain and WIN!
While I am willing to consider Obama for future presidential elections, Obama needs much more experience and clearly is NOT ready to be President (see A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can't Win by Shelby Steele). Also, I am concerned about where Obama really stands as regards racism. At 50 years of age, I have spent my whole life fighting discrimination, and I want to support a candidate who has a long-term positive record against discrimination - in this regard, I feel strongly confident with Clinton.
If you decide to support Clinton, take action now to make a positive difference:
(1) Support Seating the Florida and Michigan Delegates at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August 2008
Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/flmi/ and send an e-mail.
(2) Make Phone Calls in Support of Clinton For the Upcoming Primaries:
Kentucky, Oregon- May 20; Puerto Rico - June 1; Montana, South Dakota - June 3.
Go to http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/ and start telephoning!
(3) IF your budget permits, make a financial contribution to Clinton's campaign – no contribution, even $ 1, is too small, and Hillary is truly grateful for your investment in her and in our country! Go to https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=1 to contribute.
(4) Recognize that the debate about whether unpledged delegates (superdelegates) should exercise independent judgment OR support the candidate that does best in the primaries/caucuses, whether Democrat superdelegates should make their decisions as soon as possible, and whether Hillary Rodham Clinton should quit the race as soon as possible (regardless of the fact that there are 8 more primaries/caucuses left and the DNC meets only in late August)is based upon lack of research, knowledge, and understanding. According to the DNP's "Delegation Selection Rules for the 2008 DNC" at Rule 12J, "Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them." In essence, only PLEDGED delegates (and NOT UNPLEDGED delegates) have the obligation to follow the primary/caucus vote. In addition, the term "UNPLEDGED" means "unpromised, unengaged, unattached, uncommitted", which is consistent with independent judgment. For more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate . Finally, one primary feature of a democracy is competitive elections, and it is with this important democratic tradition in mind that Clinton rightfully continues on. For more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy.
In closing, I will be glad if your intellect and heart lead you to support Clinton for President. Please feel free to circulate my letter to others and to post it at other forums.
Respectfully, A Concerned American Who Values Democracy
Posted by: A Concerned American Who Values Democracy | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
"all she's doing is breaking the party. If she somehow manages to win the nomination, there is almost no way she can beat McCain - she's alienated too many Obama supporters for them to want to support her." Same thing I was thinking about Obama, I dont dislike Obama Like you Obama supporters Hate Hillary, but I do feel that he will not get the hillary supporters if he gets the nod. I will really have to take a hard look at John, he is more of a centered Dem then Obama and when it comes right down to it all the bad stuff will come out about Obama right before the election and he will not look very good to any of you either.
Posted by: ToBad | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
Clinton and Obam have very similar stances on almost all the issues. Let's not try to get too caught up in the drama of the competition. Look forward to November...let's not have to eat our words when we are there voting for "the leader we [don't] need." Let's keep it positive people!!
Posted by: Jason Beebe | May 14, 2008 at 05:02 AM
In the beginning of this campaign I thought Hilary Clinton was more prepared to be president because she had more experience. But I realized as I listened that I was counting her time as the presidents wife as HER experience. If that is to be counted as her experience, then what kind of experience was it? Bill Clinton's presidency is best remembered for his LIES. So fast forward to Hilary's campaign. It has been full of political spin, exageration, and lies. Like her being shot at. Trust me, you don't forget being shot at or having a gun pointed at you. It remains very clear even years later. There's her experience showing.
I'm tired of pandering politicians and the guys with the most money or power having the most influence on policy. I want to feel like our president has integrity and moral values that will influence all decisions. Hilary Clinton is sneaky and telling people what she thinks they want to hear. I'm tired of politics as usual.
Posted by: Paula | May 14, 2008 at 05:09 AM
We always see how much campaing is done to let everyone knows how important is to vote. Always hear the same same motto, "vote, exercise your rights". However, Florida and Michigan states violated the voting rules by voting ahead of time and therefore the people, the citizens, the voters voices from those states are not important anymore. Help me to understand, is voting about being heard? Is voting about letting people to exercise their right to choose who they want as leaders? or Is voting about State's voting violations regarding the day the votations were supposed to happens?
Posted by: Ovi | May 14, 2008 at 05:14 AM
I like how everything the Obamabots say is directed away from reality. If Hillary Clinton is such a horrible candidate why did she wax Obama yesterday? Obamatons don't get it, Obama isn't all that. He can't win the general election because of his own mishandling of the Rev. Wright mess by heavily playing the race card. Now Obamabots call a vote for Clinton racist. That's the pot calling the kettle black, no pun intended. Michelle Obama's heavy hand has been driving this election into the splitting of black and white and calling out white Democrats about how far they'll go to support a black candidate. I saw her thesis, she was the one who polarized her view of the world as black and white, even going so far as to use those particular terms, not Euro-American, African-American, Latina/o, Asian, racially mixed, etc. It doesn't appear she has grown very much in her racially divided world since she wrote her senior thesis and most likely kept Obama in that racially divisive Rev. Wright's flock because she felt "comfortable" in that world as an elite among the people she feels are looked down upon by the rest of society.
Only recently have Michelle and Barrack even included Native Americans in their speeches. Let's not let America's original inhabitants be called by what we call ourselves, by our own individual tribal names like Apache, Kiowa, Lakota, Dakota, Seneca, Cheyenne, Navajo, Cherokee, one of the Pueblos, Tlingit, Annishinabe, Gabrielino/Tongva, etc. or more generally American Indians/Alaska Natives/Hawaiian Islanders, no let's use the terms the government and academics and white and black liberals choose as politically correct: "Native Americans." Obama is paying us lip service, that means he doens't know anything about American Indians nor will he know how to do the right thing when it comes to American Indians and how we've been treated and how to rectify the misdeeds and horrible treatment many endure to this day regarding denying our rights.
To me this is a microcosm of why Obama is the wrong candidate. He is uninformed and while he may be a quick study we really don't have time to wait until he learns on the job and have to endure his mistakes and gaffes until he becomes a more seasoned, well rounded leader. We Americans could have Hillary Clinton as our president now, someone who has been through the rigors of politics at the national level, who knows how to battle and fight for what is right for this country, someone who has paid their political dues rather than someone who has precious little experience at the national level but could become a very good leader given some time and experience in the Senate. But too many want to jump the gun and hand Obama the presidency without his having gone through the trials and tribulations that it takes to lead effectively in our nation's highest office.
If Obama get's the nomination I believe the strategy he and his people have employed will have effectively scared off and turned off many of the people needed to be victorious in a nationwide general election, the people Obama concedes won't vote for him and who he doesn't even bother trying to mend fences with, discarding them the way he and his followers claim Black Americans have been discarded by the so-called white run establishment (that's the kind of "loaded" terms, pejoratively connotated words, Michelle Obama used in her thesis, it came off as very sophomoric and quite frankly her saying "I'm proud of my country for the first time," sounded like someone who would have nodded her head while Rev. Wright hollered "G__ D__ America") . Many of those people have heard Obama's "say what is politically expedient at the moment" cliches and throwaway lines pandering to those he is front of at that particular moment, discourse that is racially divisive and expose his inexperience and lack of knowlege regarding what this country and its people are truly about. That is precisely why he can't win in November, regardless of what his immature neophyte supporters seem to only be willing to learn the hard way through a bitter defeat which will set this country back decades regarding race relations, throwing away what now seem like small gains we older people thought we had won over the last fifty years. And come Novermber thanks for giving the election to the Republicans, again, unthinking Obama supporters. So go ahead and flame and insult away at my post Obama minions, that seems to be the only thing you know how to do. So much for keeping it positive. You Obama folks only care about shoving Obama down the rest of our collective throats as some kind of payback for slights real and imagined. If Obama truly cared at all about this country, more than his own and his wife's egos, he would have been the one to withdraw from this race, deferring to a future time, or at least not played the race card so heavily, so early on in the campaign.
Posted by: Joe | May 14, 2008 at 05:14 AM
As a conservative I will be honest, I love what I am seeing. Please Hillary stay in the race till the bitter end, fight amongst yourselves and use legal trickery to change the rules and steal the nomination. The longer you prevent the Democrats from forming a unified front for the Presidential election the greater the chance the Republicans will have. If you look at the big picture, just the fact that the Republicans have a chance to win the election after eight years of the most unpopular president in American history says a whole lot about what the Democrats are offering. So by all means Hillary fight on!
Posted by: David | May 14, 2008 at 05:36 AM
African Americans or Blacks account for 13.4% of the US population and over 44% of the prison population who are disenfranchised.
I think that to say that Obama is being elected because he has the overwhelming support of the Black vote is ludicrous! That would mean that 100% of blacks of voting age or not would have to be registered and voting. If this is true then it is truly a proud time to be an African American in this country because that would mean that we as a race are 100% politically conscious.
This is simply a tactic by the Clinton camp to marginalize the fact that Obama is uniting and electrifying a lot more than just the Black constituency. Meanwhile statements like "we need hard-working white workers to win in November" is supposed to be unifying and says nothing to the countless Blacks who have supported Bill and still support her - but for how much longer now.
Posted by: F Evans (USN Retired) | May 14, 2008 at 05:59 AM
Yes, Stay in the race, Mrs Clinton! You still have some dignity left!
Posted by: Shiv | May 14, 2008 at 06:31 AM
I mean come on! Her campaign debt, and the added security detail? How can she say she's still in the race for the waitress on her feet and the health care worker when it will ultimately those people who will pay down the debt for this ego trip she is on. She's not going to win, she's still way far behind, and the only reason she is in this race is for herself.
Posted by: amb | May 14, 2008 at 06:35 AM
"More determined than ever...." well, she can be determined but she can't change the math or the losing results over the past 43+ elections. She will lose, and being more determined than ever doesn't change the idiotic nature of her continuation of the race.
Terry McAuliffe and Howard Wolfson and most of all Hillary Clinton are sounding like idiots on the air these days. It's consistent with the "I don't listen to the experts" policy of her campaign, with the gas tax holiday sham and now even the irrefutable and simple mathematics of delegate count is not to be believed.
Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 at 06:43 AM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1 | May 14, 2008 at 06:49 AM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1 | May 14, 2008 at 06:57 AM
Obama, Clinton, McCAin they're all from the same mould. 6 of one ,etc. Mainstream candidacy represents a prolonged stay in Iraq, an invasion of Iran and a further decline in our economy helping to ensure a negative ending to democracy and a positive step toward our place as a 3rd world dictatorship. Our loss of freedoms will only double under any one of these candidates. Congress is made up of corporate puppets and the man or woman in charge is no exception. All freedoms are maintained by disciplines and constraints but not necessarily to satisfy governments need to stay
in power. We are slowly but inevitably moving toward a Socialist dictatorship and it is being exacerbated by our leaders ignoring the Constitution and " ameliorating " the bill of rights to suit their own purposes. If there is a God, may he help us all when one of these appointed demigods take the helm of a ship that is already sinking with democracy as it's passenger.
Posted by: puciret | May 14, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Thank you Patrick Knif. ----------------- I agree with everything you said. Also, I notice the reality of facts and the respectful and intelligent comments Hillary supporters make on these blogs, a reflection of her good leadership. The Obama supporters statements read angry, out of focus and filled with hate. This might be a true reflection of their candidate Obama.
Posted by: Seni | May 14, 2008 at 09:03 AM
It's time for Obama to get out of the race. It's time for people like the above blogger "Sam Ted" to pay attention to the facts and not how the media twists it. Hillary's campaign didn't suddenly change the number from 2025 to 2209. IT WAS ALWAYS 2209. Obama was the one who pulled himself out of the Michigan race. Obama was the one who decided not to campaign in Florida. Those millions of voters DID NOT put up a fuss because he wasn't fully participating in their states because they wanted Hillary all along. They are Americans and their votes must be counted. They knew something all along that the rest of the country is just finding out. Face it, if the rest of the primaries were held now Obama would win very few of them. We didn't know much about this guy and what we are learning isn't pretty. It 's a wonder and frightening that he was voted into the Senate. If we knew then what we know now we'd have all voted for Hillary. I want to change my primary vote to her. I wish I could. I pray we can vote for her in the General. If not, I'm voting McCain.
Posted by: D. Lynn | May 14, 2008 at 09:12 AM
From this pic, it sure looks like this fat-headed lady is singing.
Posted by: Franky | May 14, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Hillary has shown herself to be a ruthless politician and a racist. She will say anything, do anything and attack anyone regardless of the damage to get ahead.
She like her husband lack a moral compass and only play by their rules.
As a lifetime democrat it hurts to watch the damage she is doing to the party. I for one will either sit out the November election if she is nominated or vote for McCain.
Posted by: glenn | May 14, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Like a bad poker player-doesn't know when to get out, but hurts everyone around them playing. As far as her debt, Obama should not pay back one dime for her...........AS she may have told Bill in the past, she made this bed and she must lay in it.....
Posted by: jay | May 14, 2008 at 09:55 AM
I agree with you Patrick Knif.
The Obama campaign has wanted to stop Hillary in her tracks 3 times now... probably because they are worried that more will be discovered about his past.
And Hillary has earned the right to forge her campaign forward! She has battled the press, media, and even her own Democratic Party, who has treated her shabbily trhoughout this process! Not to mention Obama's hypocritical campaign methods of bait and switch.
Posted by: BJ | May 14, 2008 at 10:18 AM
What does the woomans feels about HRC still fighting, in a world where that genre is left with just what the male world leave to them? Is it a real missing oportunity when a good HRC president would leave a red carpet for BO on the next presidential race? It is sad but 30%-40% of her genre choose to give their back to her and years of male/man history. Once againg they digg their own hole and buried with them once in a life oportunity.
Posted by: dennis urbano | May 14, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Keep on going Hillary! If this were a man competing we would not be hearing the patronizing and veiled sexist comments that the news, pundits, super delegates and good ole boys club continually put out there. Chris Matthews "if she would JUST go quietly" says it all. As a woman, and not just any woman, but one running for the highest office of the land, Hillary should be treated with the dignity and respect due the nominee. Instead she has been mocked, put down, made fun of and more while Obama gets mostly a free ride. Is it any wonder that women are supporting Hillary in large numbers? and will continue to do so to the end. I call on all women to support Hillary because we deserve a REAL CHANGE
and a voice to be heard. I suggest that Hillary is the ONE making change even now by not bowing to the two- party system that usually ends the nominating process in the first few primaries. Witness the call for Hillary to drop out before the New Hampshire primary. Hillary has been the spear of change by allowing ALL the states to have a voice. She did not remove her name from the Michigan ballot or skip West Virginia. Obama says he wants to do things differently but uses establishment support (a la Ted Kennedy and others), has taken an elitist stance, and is very much in favor of the old way. Hillary has become the EVITA PERON of the United States, fighting for the laborers, and going to the people. She has truly started CHANGE and a new way of doing business. Hillary is living and exhibiting the CHANGE that Obama is purporting. If not President, she should be Vice Pres. Obama's choice of McCaskill or any other woman as running mate as a means of throwing a bone to Hillary supporters will surely be the most incendiary thing he could do. Hillary deserves to be first woman VP and
it will fuel the fire for women to see a random choice replace her and have this other person gain recognition in history. So, beware of what you wish for. Women will
start voting men out of office that don't support their efforts. Senator Dodd and others, you have been put on notice. We deserve to be treated with respect and the buck stops here. Hillary, KEEP ON GOING.
Posted by: colette in Farmington | May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM
What is wrong with this woman?now that the the election has been decided(true it's not over just decided). She owes an explanation for this bizarre behavior.What about simple math does she not understand. You cannot call your competition unelectable when he has come from nowhere to kick your butt in 30 elections.You cannot call your competition inexperienced when he has held elected office longer than you.(your only older) and the list of implusible arguments goes on and on. So Hillary, please come clean and tell us whats up this is the last time anyone will listen.
Posted by: whitey | May 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Apparently she needs a hearing aid because everyone else is hearing one thing and she's hearing another!!
Posted by: Winn | May 14, 2008 at 11:18 AM
We can be heard if you listen Hillary.We're saying go away you creep!
Posted by: jose lopez | May 14, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Honestly, Cacuses are the most undemocratic thing I have ever seen besides Jebb Bush stealing Flordia. To say Obama won more RED states that will go republican, with moveon.org and that was fair ? is why democrats lose every time or are one termers except FRD and Bill Clinton.
Pelosi, Reid had excuses when they were minority party, now majority -still weak, Gore Kerry, Dean, Carter, Dukakis, Mondale, Humphrey, even Liberman switched sides almost; Mc Govern, Stevenason need I go on? Obama will lose. The longer she stays the more I believe in a stronger perosn Hillary. Meida is so Obama liberal biased more than ever and they will drop one like a hot potato when the facts come in for the empty suit Obama who hasn't held one meeting on Afganistan, now wears a flagpin and ,finally, salutes flag -from humble Muslim beginings-father-grandfather, etc. and Wright, Ayers, Rezko -well 0we will see. On Bil Clinton and FDR got re-elected what can the rest say?
Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Stay in the race Hillary until the August convention. Then whip them all into shape. You can do it. Let's keep them from nominating an inexperienced, naive individual that the media has created as a holy comic book character. Obama has no substance, unless you care to call the reverend wright his substance advisor? Go Hillary.
The DNC is just a crock of you know what, that Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi are working hard to destroy based on their love of obama.
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, my vote is going to John McCain - never to the obama/wright duo.
Posted by: CalifLady36 | May 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Hillary=the devil we know
McCain=the Republican devil we're not sure about
Obama=the Devil we don't know
You be the judge and pick which one . . .
Each has already sold their soul to the devil now, they want us to pick so they can sell ours!!
Posted by: Apres Ski | May 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I have a suggestion for all you Buffies that think anyone voting for Clinton is racist.
Go get Nig-nog and your friend Afro-Saxon and tell Mustard seed that the rest of white america will probably start voting racist (identity voting if your white and describing blacks doing the same thing at 92%).
Then go get a life and stop being a bunch of black racists.
It's becomming extremely clear that blacks are the reason racism still exists in America.
Posted by: Honest Voice | May 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM
A really great lady,indeed.She is reviled by the American media,but she happens to be an outstanding role model for many women in the third world.She has also exposed American hypocrisy.Though the country shouts from rooftops about the empowerment of Islamic women it does not want a woman to be its President.Shame on you,America.
Posted by: Jabli Izvesti | May 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM
If a male were in the same position as Hillary Clinton is right now, the media wouldn't give him five minutes of air time; they would have written him off weeks ago and spent their time discussing Obama vs. McCain.
"Hillary's a fighter," is the oft-repeated phrase of the day. If a male were in the same position as she is now, the pundits would call him "a megalomaniac who refuses to lose and will do anything to win."
But, hey, she's a woman. Let's be politically correct and come to her rescue. What a strange country this is.
Posted by: Rick Lombardo | May 14, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Hillary, everybody is saying GO AWAY!!!! You just don't seem to be listening.
Posted by: N.E. BodybutHillary | May 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
"The pundits and nay sayers have been pronouncing her campaign dead almost since it began..." says Patrick Knif.
On the contrary, when her campaign began she was the front runner and the heir presumptive to the Democratic throne. Then along came this johnny-come-lately Barack Obama to spoil her party. And that's when we started to see the real Hillary Clinton - vicious, vindictive, and willing to stop at nothing, including the possible destruction of her own party, to cling onto what she always thought was her god-given right.
Wake up pantsuit princess, the train's left the station - and you missed it!
Posted by: John Bard | May 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I too think she should stay in the race-this nonsensse "that the fight is breaking up the Dems" is just silly.
FDR was nominated 5 days into the 1932 convention-JFK was nominated at the convention as well-Why are so many pundits, Obama supporters saying "drop out NOW"?-What is everyone sooooo afraid of--go for it Hillary! If Obama gets the nom-he's lost my vote-I WILL NOT vote for a novice to live at 1600 Penn. Ave-We've had that for the past 8 years-Let's try something new!
Posted by: John from LA | May 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM
The question for Democrats and others concerned with the Democratic Party primary is then this — do you really want to let the worst-educated, least-knowledgeable and most bigotry-prone components of the voting pool (including those who stubbornly insist that Obama is a Muslim) control the direction of the party to the point of overriding the outcome in pledged delegates? Do you really want to give Hillary Clinton a pass in regards to her ignorantly racist supporters that you would never give to Obama in regards to Rev. Wright? And do you really want to say, as Hillary media proxy Paul Begala did, that a coalition that includes well-educated “eggheads” is somehow a bad thing?
Democrats used to promote education as a virtue to the point even of wanting to overspend government dollars on it at every opportunity. But now a large part of the party obstinately insists that the educated are those that should be sneered at and ignored. In short, they have embraced the anti-intellectualism long present on the far right. And none of Hillary’s supporters seem to mind.
And by the way, how do you explain Senator Obama's double-digit victories in overwhelmingly white states like Iowa (8 points over Clinton), Alaska (51 points), Colorado (34 points), Delaware (11 points), Idaho (62 points), Kansas (48 points), Minnesota (34 points), North Dakota (25 points) and Utah (18 points)?
Posted by: SMS | May 14, 2008 at 01:03 PM
The question for Democrats and others concerned with the Democratic Party primary is then this — do you really want to let the worst-educated, least-knowledgeable and most bigotry-prone components of the voting pool (including those who stubbornly insist that Obama is a Muslim) control the direction of the party to the point of overriding the outcome in pledged delegates? Do you really want to give Hillary Clinton a pass in regards to her ignorantly racist supporters that you would never give to Obama in regards to Rev. Wright? And do you really want to say, as Hillary media proxy Paul Begala did, that a coalition that includes well-educated “eggheads” is somehow a bad thing?
Democrats used to promote education as a virtue to the point even of wanting to overspend government dollars on it at every opportunity. But now a large part of the party obstinately insists that the educated are those that should be sneered at and ignored. In short, they have embraced the anti-intellectualism long present on the far right. And none of Hillary’s supporters seem to mind.
And by the way, how do you explain Senator Obama's double-digit victories in overwhelmingly white states like Iowa (8 points over Clinton), Alaska (51 points), Colorado (34 points), Delaware (11 points), Idaho (62 points), Kansas (48 points), Minnesota (34 points), North Dakota (25 points) and Utah (18 points)?
Posted by: SMS | May 14, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Of what use is a post menopausal, stumpy legged hausfrau who can't do laundry. She dosen't even have grandchildren to babysit...
Posted by: markhas | May 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM
What a bunch of crock. Hillary is running on the idea that her 'internship' for the presidency was enough to make her ready, when in reality, all she's doing is breaking the party. If she somehow manages to win the nomination, there is almost no way she can beat McCain - she's alienated too many Obama supporters for them to want to support her.
Capt. C. Price, USAF
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Capt Price, well said! I would like to add Hilliary's fraudulant claims to landing under sniperfire in Bosnia, putting their heads down, and running to their cars. As a vet, I am totally appalled at her concocting such fraud and insulting our servicemen and servicewomen who have servied our county in ALL wars, spitting the hunderds of thousands who have paid the ultimate price fighting in all past and present wars, and to the hundreds of thousands who have returned severely maimed, injured, brained damaged, and suffering from Post Traumatic Stress and the many other horrors of war. She added scorn to the insult by going on the Jay Leno Show, laughing and joking about being late "because I came under sniperfire." In my opinion, any candidate who thinks so poorly of our military forces is NOT fit to be Commander and Chief! Any candidate who uses fraudulant claims of landing under sniperfire and then joking and laughing about running into sniperfire is NOT fit to be CIC!
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 01:09 PM
It funny how Obama supporters complain that race is too much of an issue in this election. Then they turn around and call anyone who doesn't like Obama, a racist.
Obama is some one do-gooder white people use to feel good about themselves. He's also for silly people prone to fads. Everyone wants to be an Obama supporter cause it's like, really cool.
Call the people of West Virginia racists, but the truth of the matter is, we're not real fond of pussies whose wives keep thier peckers in a mason jar under the kitchen sink. We tend not to be taken in by bull shi**ers either.
So take Obama and your cuisinarts and be sure and tell everyone you really dig on Obama so they will be impressed by your intellect and your tolerance,.
You all think you are original but you're really all alike - pretenious and phoney. And what's really funny about all this is that the Obama people are doing just what the RePubs did by electing George Bush. Suppose this country hasn't learned a thing from electing an inexperienced neophyte have they?
Posted by: kat | May 14, 2008 at 01:12 PM
I cannot belive the people in west va are so blind that they follow the judis goat up the ramp to be behind ihe power hungry raitings of a women that has been used as a throwrug by her husband because she had to have what little power she got from the man that was suposed to love her and not anything that wore a skirt and was to blind to see thru him and his sick idear of what is and what is not sex but you people have made your choice now you will have to live with it. God help you.
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Kenneth. very true! Also, I believe the majority of Americans recognize that Hilliairy has been pandering to the poor, uneducated, bigots, and racists in our society. In West Virginia she was still pandering her gas tax holiday and people there bought that crapola. It is evident West Virginia is still living in the era of segregation of slavehood.....as many said when interviewed, "I cannot vote for a......long pause......'a man of color'." How racist and bigotted is that? What irks me is the news media and the Hilliary camp are saying this small state with 39 delegates is a "swing" state and will determine the Presidency. That' s mere propaganda! Since when did Hilliary change her mind that SMALL states with SMALL delegates count? She threw several states, like Washington and Iowa (caucus states and the voters) under the bus by saying we were not important, did not count and were undemocratic! She also said SMALL states w/SMALL delegates (Primary states) did not count and did not matter. Suddenly, NOW, she's said WV is CRUCIAL! Talk about being a hypocrite!!
By the way, she told WV folks that no candidate had won the White House without winning WV since 1916!! When, in fact, her own husband, Bill, won that state in 2002 and again 2006. Unbelievable!! More fraudulant claims!! Wonder how Billy feels about Hilliary throwing HIM under the bus??
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 01:29 PM
her dog is dead.
Posted by: RR | May 14, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Looking at Hilliary's photo, she looks like she is yelling at someone quite angryily with her eyes popping out like that and her arm as if she is ready to clobber someone!! Some of her supporters have criticised the media .......which I think is uncalled for----for printing such pictures. Hey, she presents herself in unfavorable poses, it's not the media's fault!! She's scarey!!
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 01:38 PM
When this race started, I favored Edwards. After he dropped out, I took a hard look at the two remaining candidates. I became very distressed at the conduct of HRC over the course of this campaign and I believe she cannot beat McCain because her actions have caused her to be perceived by the majority of Americans as a dishonest panderer who will say anything and stoop to any low to get elected. Meanwhile, McCain projects an aura of integrity and honesty (regardless of what you think of his policies). Many people vote on character rather than issues, and she simply cannot compete with McCain on that front.
Here are some of HRC's self-inflicted wounds that turned me off to her:
-- "change you can Xerox"
-- referring to the SNL sketch during a debate and saying "maybe we should ask Senator Obama if he needs another pillow"
-- ridiculous unconstitutional proposal to freeze mortgage interest rates & place moratorium on foreclosures, which is just going to keep real estate prices in here in CA artificially inflated
-- Bosnia sniper lie
-- NAFTA flip-flops; role of Mark Penn & Bill Clinton in Columbia free trade agreement suggests Clinton is not against it as she claims to be
-- opportunistic reversal of her position regarding Michigan & Florida votes; first she said they wouldn't count and now she claims to be deeply concerned about people's voices being heard
-- "hardworking white American" comment
-- negative campaigning focused on turning many other Democrats off to the candidate who is likely to win this primary
As a woman, I am saddened that the first major female presidential candidate is stooping this low and fighting this dirty.
For those of you who don't like Obama, why not? I think the criticism about his alleged lack of experience is valid, but I just don't understand the rest of the negativity. For those of you who claim he plays the race card -- how is that? When has Obama (NOT the media or people on the blogs, but Obama or spokespeople of his campaign) ever tried to divide people by race? For those of you who claim he lacks substance, have you even reviewed his proposals at barackobama.com? Did you hear his economy speech back in March? I am just at a loss as to what appears to be irrational hatred of him by people who claim to be Democrats, especially since many of his proposals are similar to HRC's.
Posted by: Tex | May 14, 2008 at 01:43 PM
The long nightmare is nearly over. Obama is our nominee. Better get over it and get used to it.
Posted by: dennis | May 14, 2008 at 02:19 PM
MODERATOR: Please bump "Honest Voice's" racial slurs off this blog. His comments are right out of a Klan meeting. Literally. (his note is stamped 11:54 a.m.)
Posted by: dennis | May 14, 2008 at 02:22 PM
The Media does not seem to accept that there are many grass roots voters who support Hillary Clinton. I am voting for Hillary Clinton whether or not she is on the ballot. I will write her in as a protest against the vitriolic press coverage she has endured. We need Hillary Clinton more than ever at this time in history. If this costs the Democrats the election, then so be it. I am tired of voting for candidates I did not pick. Hillary's plan for universal health care is the best.
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YOU are tired of voting for candidates YOU did not pick? Oh, so YOUR vote is the ONLY ONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COUNT? How about the milions and millions other voters? Don't their votes count? In this race, the MAJORITY of Americans have spoken but Hilliary refuses to hear them. Are you a Democrat or are you JUST a Hilliary fanatic?? Do you have the interest of country at heart or do you have Hilliary's egotistical interest at heart? Why don't you wake up from your clintonion stupor and see her for what she really is, what she does, and what she says. It is not pretty!! You'd rather have thousands more of our military men and women die in Iraq the next four years than to vote for Senator Obama? McCain will not change anything for the US, he is a clone to the current President. My goodness, McCain even said the government should not help people facing foreclosures on their homes because they made bad decisions. When actually it was the lenders telling people they could indeed afford these houses when in fact they could not.....!! Yes, McCain cares about the middleclass and the poor, doesn't he?? He (and Hilliary) also cares very much about our military men and women; he'lkl continue sending them to Iraq to fight and get killed and severely injured for a war that not should not have been!! How do YOU feel about that?? Do you and others like you want to be responsible for our brave men and women dying in this war???? If so, by all means, vote for McCain and not Senator Obama!!
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 02:25 PM
May, Hilliary won West Virginia because it is predominantly poor, uindeducated WHITE people who are also racists and bigots. That is WHY she won!!! She was still pandering her "gas tax holiday" in WV and they bought into it ! Funny, isn't it? Indiana and North Carolina were smart, they REJECTED Hilliary's outrageous pandering!! West Virginia is a small state with only 39 delegates......Hilliary threw states (and the voters) like Washington, Colorado, Wisconsin, Illinois, and many, many more under the bus when she declared these states were not important, did not matter, did not count and, in the case of caucus states, were undemocratic. NOW she's proclaiming the small state of West Virgiinia with only 39 delegates has been CRUCIAL to her campaign and how iimportant those undeducated, bigotted, racists White voters are to her and to the campaign!! I would be very ashamed and embarrassed to declare these voters as MY base!! She has pandered to the dark side of voters, those with racial hatred and bigotry in their souls, hearts, and minds!! Not surprising, as she, her campaign, Bill, campaign managers and advisors, and surroages ALL PLAYED THE RACE CARD since New Hampshire!!! Racists and bigots stick together!!!
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1
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Lauren, if Colin Powell was running for President, YOU would not vote for him either, so, who are you trying to kid? Your comments about Hillary are funny! :) Hilliary is 60 years old, she is a whole 14 years older than Senator Obama!! So she is wo wonderful, why didn't she run for President MUCH earlier?? Why has she waited until age 60 to do it??? And if she is so electible, why is she so far behind in states won, popular votes, delegates, and now superdelegates??? Senator Obama is a great man of integrity, honesty, wisdom, great judgement, terrific leadership and managerial skills (just look at his campaign which has been identified as the BEST IN U.S. HISTORY!), good character, a superb orator who gets his message across with inspiration, sincerity and honesty, a uniter as proven by the HUGE numbers he, his campaign, volunteers, and supporters have registered to vote. He is an expert on raising money and spending it wisely. He has raised more campaign funds than any candidate in history!
As for Hilliary - well, let's see, she has run a chaotic and disconnected campaign with months of infighting, firing of aides and managers alike, firing Penn but not firing him, extremely poor management of campaine funds, owest $10 Million to MIDDLE-CLASS vendors and business people who provided her and her campaign with such things as stage setups, hotel rooms, and food and whatever else the Clintons wanted. These are the very people she claimed to be for, yet she lives these people hanging and refuses to pay them. Her debts date back to the days in Iowa!!! She has proven she is divisive and destructive, changes personas and her message about as often as she changes her pantsuits. In short, she has proven she is NOT trustworthy and is not fit to be President and Commander-in-Chief. Her fraudulant claims of "I remember ....landing in Bosnia under sniperfire, putting their heads down, and running to our cars.......and that is what happened" and her subsequent visit to the Jay Leno show laughing and joking about being late "because I ran into sniperfire" are a big slap in the face to our military men and women who in fact deal with sniper fire and all kinds of deadly attacks in Iraq, the war she helped propel, DEFINITELY DISQUALIFIES HER FROM THE OFFICE OF COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. Any candidate who concocts fraudulant claims regarding deadly weapons/situations and then thinks it is funny to joke and laugh about running into such weapons/situations is NOT WORTHY OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOR IS THAT CANDIDATE WORTHY OF BEING THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF OUR MILITARY FORCES.
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Her facial expressions always amuse me, but this one in particular appears as though someone just shoved something somewhere.
Posted by: N.E. BodybutHillary | May 14, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1
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Lauren, if Colin Powell was running for President, YOU would not vote for him either, so, who are you trying to kid? Your comments about Hillary are funny! :) Hilliary is 60 years old, she is a whole 14 years older than Senator Obama!! So she is wo wonderful, why didn't she run for President MUCH earlier?? Why has she waited until age 60 to do it??? And if she is so electible, why is she so far behind in states won, popular votes, delegates, and now superdelegates??? Senator Obama is a great man of integrity, honesty, wisdom, great judgement, terrific leadership and managerial skills (just look at his campaign which has been identified as the BEST IN U.S. HISTORY!), good character, a superb orator who gets his message across with inspiration, sincerity and honesty, a uniter as proven by the HUGE numbers he, his campaign, volunteers, and supporters have registered to vote. He is an expert on raising money and spending it wisely. He has raised more campaign funds than any candidate in history!
As for Hilliary - well, let's see, she has run a chaotic and disconnected campaign with months of infighting, firing of aides and managers alike, firing Penn but not firing him, extremely poor management of campaine funds, owest $10 Million to MIDDLE-CLASS vendors and business people who provided her and her campaign with such things as stage setups, hotel rooms, and food and whatever else the Clintons wanted. These are the very people she claimed to be for, yet she lives these people hanging and refuses to pay them. Her debts date back to the days in Iowa!!! She has proven she is divisive and destructive, changes personas and her message about as often as she changes her pantsuits. In short, she has proven she is NOT trustworthy and is not fit to be President and Commander-in-Chief. Her fraudulant claims of "I remember ....landing in Bosnia under sniperfire, putting their heads down, and running to our cars.......and that is what happened" and her subsequent visit to the Jay Leno show laughing and joking about being late "because I ran into sniperfire" are a big slap in the face to our military men and women who in fact deal with sniper fire and all kinds of deadly attacks in Iraq, the war she helped propel, DEFINITELY DISQUALIFIES HER FROM THE OFFICE OF COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. Any candidate who concocts fraudulant claims regarding deadly weapons/situations and then thinks it is funny to joke and laugh about running into such weapons/situations is NOT WORTHY OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOR IS THAT CANDIDATE WORTHY OF BEING THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF OUR MILITARY FORCES.
Posted by: NinaK | May 14, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Hey ninaK I notice you didn't take a shot at my posting, why not? You seem like the typical know-nothing Obama follower, don't tell me you were one of the ones that Obama was referring to when he would start off his campaign rallys with, "I think someone just fainted over there." What a great candidate, has to bring up the fact that he has semi-conscious attendees at his rallys. Obama is a joke, a bad joke being foisted upon the American electorate by people in a smoke filled room at the DNC. Keep trying to trick and badger people into believing he is the only one who can lead us back to a sound economy like the one Bill Clinton presided over while the Republicans were trying to railroad him, first with Whitewater then with Monica. While Mr. empty suit Barracks was saying things like his associate Weather Underground member Bill Ayers was bombing our citizens while Obama was eight years old, forty years ago (BTW Obama is 45). Obama's inexperience is all we need according to people like you while experience seems to count for nothing. Remember that the next time your car or home requires repairs and the inexperienced mechanic or repair man botches the job, the analogy is obvious. Wonder why people would rather vote for McCain than Obama, if Senator Clinton is not the Democratic nominee? NO, NO, NO, not racism, HE HAS EXPERIENCE! Duh? No wonder you liberals can't win, you're all frothing at the mouth that you have a dimwit Ivy League frat boy who speaks well as a poster boy, he's George W. Bush with a tan and better speaking skills.
Posted by: Joe | May 17, 2008 at 06:50 AM
According to Obama's supporters:
1. People in West Virginia are "uindeducated WHITE people who are also racists and bigots" (stereotiping)
2. Hilliary is 60 years old, she is a whole 14 years older than Senator Obama!! (Age discriminaton)
3. "Of what use is a post menopausal, stumpy legged hausfrau who can't do laundry. She dosen't even have grandchildren to babysit..." (Gender discrimination)
I like Obama, I do not like his supporters.
Posted by: Tammy | May 19, 2008 at 03:35 PM