Victorious Clinton vows to fight until 'everyone' is heard
Tuesday night, Barack Obama conceded West Virginia to Hillary Clinton in a cellphone voicemail from the runway in Cape Girardeau, Mo., to the phone of the New York senator's assistant, after an appearance aimed at
the general election against the Republican dude from Arizona.
A little PR payback perhaps for the private concessions Clinton has delivered after her previous defeats to Obama that deny the victor any TV footage of the loser talking defeat?
So this morning the Clinton-Obama wrestling match continues unabated and the New Yorker gave no sign in her public remarks of relenting in her campaign, although the delegate math seems so fully stacked against her.
"I am," Clinton told the crowd of West Virginia supporters, although she was really warning a couple hundred uncommitted Democratic superdelegates not to jump yet, "more determined than ever to carry on this campaign until everyone has had their voices heard."
Let's see, "everyone" means then at least all the way through June 3 and Montana where, coincidentally, another Clinton, named Bill, was speaking outdoors at the same moment as a mountain spring rain began to fall. So, no quitting after another Clinton win next week in Kentucky? Until all the ...
...voices are heard could also mean until all the currently discounted Florida and Michigan votes are counted too. Could that mean Denver in late August?
It was a big win for Clinton, who got about 67% of the vote. And a real thumping for Obama, who got only 26 points, fewer even than his crummy bowling score a while back in Pennsylvania. His camp saw the L coming, given his token campaign appearance there Monday. With most of the West Virginia results in, the Illinois senator had not won one single county in a state that, since 1916, Democratic presidential candidates must win in order to reach the White House.
Clinton was clearly delighted in her nationally televised remarks when she delivered an early and urgent plea for money. "Tonight," she said, "I need your help to continue this journey. We are in the homestretch -- only three weeks left. Your support can make the difference between winning and losing."
Standing alone on the stage with the full focus on her, Clinton wanted to project an image of strength and fuel the doubts in the superdelegates' minds about Obama's ability to win crucial states. The absence of Obama on camera provided no video contradiction that evening.
"This race isn't over yet," Clinton said, reading her prepared remarks that called her win "an overwhelming victory." "Neither of us have the total delegates needed to win."
"I am in this race because I believe I am the strongest candidate to lead our party in November 2008," she said, plowing through even prolonged applause. "And the strongest president to lead our nation in 2009. I deeply admire Sen. Obama. But I believe our case is stronger."
"The White House is won in the swing states," Clinton claimed. "And I am winning the swing states."
"You know," she said, "I'll never give up and I'll stand with you as long as you stand with me."
During her remarks Clinton pointed to one supporter in the crowd waving a sign, "Until the last dog dies."
A reference, no doubt, to the Michael Vick dog-fighting scandal.
Not.
--Andrew Malcolm
Photo: Hillary Clinton (Associated Press/Elise Amendola)
Johanna Neuman is a veteran Washington correspondent for both The Los Angeles Times and USA Today, having covered presidents and politics as far back as Ronald Reagan. A former president of the White House Correspondents Assn., she authored a book on media and foreign policy, “Lights, Camera, Wars.” Most recently she was co-author of the
nice picture
Posted by: MaryJosephine | May 14, 2008 at 01:54 AM
She's not in the race to hear what everyone has to say, for if she were she'd admit the voices of common sense and decency into her head that are telling her to drop out of the race since she has no real chance of winning, not only by virtue of the numbers, but also because of Obama's superdelegate inertia.
If she were in it to hear what everyone has to say, then a major thrust of her campaigning would be to register new voters. Is it?
If she were in it to hear what everyone has to say, then why would she pander to the fears and prejudices of low-income white Americans, call them the only hard-working Americans, and disregard those who have made their vote in favor of Obama already?
She cloaks her ego and greed in a veil of altruism. She takes good words and spoils them. I can't believe people are still buying this "everyone should be heard" crap. Everyone SHOULD be heard, but you don't care about everyone. You only want to win!
Posted by: WA | May 14, 2008 at 02:19 AM
Obama needs to ease Hillary's exit. A good way to do that is to not get in the way of her having a big win. This allows her to raise funds to help retire her $20,000,000 debt. If she gets in, her creditors (special interest & wealthy) will come calling.
Yes, it's a gamble on Obama's part, but he's so far ahead, the only way Clinton can win is to use her scorched earth tactic.
West Virginia is probably a state that enjoys the status quo of the political environment in Washington.
Not sure why some people don't think slander, pander, and lies are ok for a presidential candidate.
The Clintons have their sights set. They are a powerhouse in their own right. Any action, appointment, or position will be used by her to attain her true goal.
Posted by: ToySoldier | May 14, 2008 at 02:27 AM
I AM NOT AMERICAN AND THEREFORE REALLY HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT ON AMERICAN DOMESTIC POLITICS. HOWEVER, AS AMERICA AND ITS LEADERS FROM EITHER END OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM PRESUMED TO LEAD THE WORLD IN POLITICAL AND SOCIAL IDEOLOGY, I BELIEVE MY THOUGHTS EXPRESSED HERE ARE PERTINENT.
HILARY ASPIRES TO BE PRESIDENT AND THEREFORE LEADER OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. RECENT RESULTS HAVE SHOWN THAT HER MAJORITY SUPPORT COMES FROM ELECTORATE WHO HAVE DEEP-SEATED RACIAL PREJUDICES AND SENTIMENTS.
I AM ONE OF THE BILLIONS OF NON-AMERICAN ASIANS, WITH KITH AND KIN WHO ARE MUSLIMS WHOSE VERY EXISTENCE ARE HATED (TO PUT IN MILDLY) BY THE PEOPLE ARE NOW OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTING HILARY. NOW, HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME FEEL? DON'T FORGET, SHE SUPPORTED THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ! HOW MANY INNOCENT IRAQIS HAVE BEEN MADE ORPHANS AND WIDOWS?
Posted by: JUST HARY | May 14, 2008 at 02:33 AM
What a bunch of crock. Hillary is running on the idea that her 'internship' for the presidency was enough to make her ready, when in reality, all she's doing is breaking the party. If she somehow manages to win the nomination, there is almost no way she can beat McCain - she's alienated too many Obama supporters for them to want to support her.
Capt. C. Price, USAF
Posted by: C. Price | May 14, 2008 at 02:34 AM
I am an Obama supporter and respect Sen Clinton decision. I am just not happy and disappointed by Sen Clinoton when she tries to change rules.
1) she knew MI and FL won't count and changing position when everything is against her
2) Magin number was 2025 and Last night on the WV win speech changed it to 2209......
Come'on...
Let Sen Clinton continue to campaigh but don't try to change the rules that could disintegrate the democratic party.
Cheers,
Sam
Posted by: Sam Ted | May 14, 2008 at 02:38 AM
STAY IN THE RACE. YOU DESERVE TO WIN THE NOMINATION. OBAMA IS NOT READY TO BE THE PRESIDENT. I DON'T LIKE THIS GUY AND I THINK HE IS VERY SCARY. BIG NEGATIVES WITH ME. THE SHOE IS GOING TO DROP AND HE WILL BE OUT.
Posted by: peggy magee | May 14, 2008 at 02:48 AM
perhaps clinton was referring to the only worthy candidate for PRESIDENT: RON PAUL, when she announced to continue her campaign until everyone had been heard. to date, this has clearly not been the case, and there's massive evidence of systematically instrumentalized media to manipulate the elections. (e.g. youtube, 'media caught lying' - jerry day)
Posted by: dave | May 14, 2008 at 02:49 AM
The pundits and nay sayers have been pronouncing her campaign dead almost since it began; but as Mark Twain might have put it,, "The reports of her [campaign‘s] death are greatly exaggerated.“ Here she is, still campaigning strongly and winning key states. Why? Along with being smart, tough, experienced and well prepared for the responsibilities of the oval office, Clinton has worked throughout her adult life to help the middle class and less privileged, and will continue so. She promises changes, and folks know her changes will be for the better.
Based on Obama’s achievements and experience to date, there’s little reason to believe he could or would be the leader we need. His scarcity of valid presidency qualifications--prepared plans/programs, experience, any bona fide accomplishments--along with his history, basic philosophy per his autobiography, his "selective" memory, and close ties to people like William Ayers, Louis Faraquan, el-slsl, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko cause deep concern about his qualifications, who he would choose as his advisers and cabinet, and where he would lead us.
As the campaigns progress and more of Obama's true character, history, etc., emerges, many voters have already had second thoughts about his self- proclaimed honesty, transparency & accountability (and also about his shortage of qualifications) and decided that Clinton is the better candidate. and many more voters will have second, & third, thoughts as they learn more. This is verified by the exit polls. The voters are opting for Clinton.
Posted by: Patrick Knif | May 14, 2008 at 02:50 AM
The pundits and nay sayers have been pronouncing her campaign dead almost since it began; but as Mark Twain might have said, “The reports of her [campaign‘s] death are greatly exaggerated.“ Here she is, still campaigning strongly and winning key states. Why? Along with being smart, tough, experienced and well prepared for the responsibilities of the oval office, Clinton has worked throughout her adult life to help the middle class and less privileged, and will continue so. She promises changes, and folks know her changes will be for the better.
Based on Obama’s achievements and experience to date, there’s little reason to believe he could or would be the leader we need. His scarcity of valid presidency qualifications--prepared plans/programs, experience, any bona fide accomplishments--along with his history, basic philosophy per his autobiography, his "selective" memory, and close ties to people like William Ayers, Louis Faraquan, el-slsl, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko cause deep concern about his qualifications, who he would choose as his advisers and cabinet, and where he would lead us.
As the campaigns progress and more of Obama's true character, history, etc., emerges, many voters have already had second thoughts about his self- proclaimed honesty, transparency & accountability (and also about his shortage of qualifications) and decided that Clinton is the better candidate. and many more voters will have second, & third, thoughts as they learn more. This is verified by the exit polls. The voters are opting for Clinton.
Posted by: Patrick Knif | May 14, 2008 at 02:53 AM
I have listened to negative press on Hillary for a year and a half while Obama has been given rave reviews. Count Michigan and Florida and you will find who American's really want as their president. West Virginia shows how well Obama will do in a general election. Experience counts!
Posted by: carlie | May 14, 2008 at 03:53 AM
What scares me, is that so few people recognize a dynasty in the making. Throughout history, dynasties have served the dynasty. They never serve the nation, or the people.
I disliked George Bush as pres, initially for little more reason than his father had been pres.
If I had no other reason to vote against Hillary, the fact that her husband had been the president would be enough.
IF she were to win, we could certainly count on her daughter running in about 20 years.
NO DYNASTY is my answer. The best reason to vote Obama, is that he is a new face.
That said, unless Obama actually starts TALKING about where he will lead this country, I'll probably vote McCain. We already know that McCain gave a lot to his country, only to sit in a POW camp for years. McCain will continue to give to his country.
Hillary will only take, and Obama is still a question mark. What DOES he have to give?
Posted by: Paul | May 14, 2008 at 04:04 AM
Well, even a 40-0 scoring football game in the 4th quarter with 10 seconds remaining is played out. She's a good sport.
Posted by: mandrake | May 14, 2008 at 04:17 AM
I cannot belive the people in west va are so blind that they follow the judis goat up the ramp to be behind ihe power hungry raitings of a women that has been used as a throwrug by her husband because she had to have what little power she got from the man that was suposed to love her and not anything that wore a skirt and was to blind to see thru him and his sick idear of what is and what is not sex but you people have made your choice now you will have to live with it. God help you.
Posted by: kenneth lavigne | May 14, 2008 at 04:19 AM
thats the problem white vote for Clinton and blacks vote for Obama thats ridiculous and thats what I was afraid of.
People in America chose their president on the base of color black or white?!
when do this country grow up.....
Posted by: bob | May 14, 2008 at 04:26 AM
Nice photo indeed. Hillary is utterly pathetic. Have any of her minions dared to break the news to their Mistress that de nile is something other than a river in egypt?
I must admit to a cruel chuckle at the thought of Hillary bragging of her victory on TV, then once the cameras are gone venting her spleen against above-mentioned minions because it must absolutely be crushing to know that it is the blindingly ignorant and racist white trash/rednecks/hillbillies who will vote for her, and not the educated and intellectual Americans among whom she considers herself to belong.
She must be inwardly humiliated and outraged. I know I would be if that's all I could get to vote for me!! And I don't have near enough the level of anger Hillary so obviously carries around with her.
Posted by: Muse | May 14, 2008 at 04:31 AM
The Polls are speaking very loud and clear...
Democratic voters are displaying "buyers remorse"... two-thirds of voters want Hillary to stay in the race.
Denver will be the best ticket of this decade!
Posted by: Randy | May 14, 2008 at 04:35 AM
From the start I consider Obama, as I did all candidates with a cynical eye. I also know more about Hillary because I am in Upstate NY.
I had an uneasy feeling about Obama, contrary to what Ted Kennedy and the Kennedy's say, Obama is no JFK. Obama comes across as a very upper class and very sleazy pandering used car salesman.
He'll woo you with empty words because he has no track record to back them. He'll tell you what you want to hear as he sits with his "I am greater than everyone" smug attitude actually believing that is ready to lead this the Greatest Nation in the world. He's not.
He is depending upon the smoke and mirrors of his double talk to convince us he is "the one".
This election process, more that any in the past, proves P.T. Barnum was correct. "There is a sucker born every minute" the Democrats who
have blindly, without real knowledge of who Obama is, and have backed him thus far, prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now that just a little of the true Obama is coming to light, after the media finally decided to look at him for who he is,
it is clear to see just how ignorant, gullible and frankly stupid most Americans are.
That sadly says a lot about why this country is in the shape that is in.
We, as a people, need to look past the BS of Obama, to see who he is(and only a small part of that information has come out)
and then we need to pick someone else to be president, with our eyes clear of the Obama BS and his smoke screen.
Frankly, and I cringe at this thought, McCain would be a much better pick than Obama.
But Hillary is the real deal and would truly make the Best President of the United States of the three candidates.
Posted by: Ernie | May 14, 2008 at 04:35 AM
HClinton has not demonstrated to me any kind of "fighter" image. She's insulting me. She has shown only the shallowness, pettiness, and self-serving nature of her quest. HClinton has slapped the people of Michigan in the face and now pretends she has no arms... claimed 7 or 8 months ago Michigan was meaningless, and now it's "key" because it serves her purpose. Claimed this was a "27-state" race a few months back, but only now all 50 states and various territories count to HRC. She has proven she will both objectify and condescend to minorities, women and "hard-working white Americans" without education in order to "make her case". Hillary, you are no Bill. And now even Bill seems like he's off his nut.
There is a reason HRC hasn't been able to "seal the deal" (one of her favorite expressions). Frankly, if this is how Hillary Clinton runs for office, what will she do in office? This is why the superdelegates must -- Lord, please -- step up and make a reasonable choice for Barack Obama. And by the looks of the Edwards vote last night, I think we have the perfect ticket.
How on earth HRC equates her scandal-riddled career with being able to beat McCain is beyond me. The GOP has enough to make her look like a double-speaking, opportunistic witch. McCain is sending the message that he personally won't play dirty with Barack (doubtless not speaking for the GOP), but Hillary is a different story entirely.
Barack/Edwards '08
Posted by: Jez | May 14, 2008 at 04:38 AM
If you watch sports, you'll hear the comentators stir the pot whether a team is highly outclassed or not. I don't take stock in the media and their predictions. I don't trust "any" politician.
McCain is the only one of the candidates with true experience if you want to be true to the facts. No president has experience until they are president.
All politicians have flaws.
I was very interested in Hillary until her husband lied on her behalf about Ruwanda saying she tried to get him to mobilize sooner to help them but he did not to his shame. He said this to mostly black crowd gain sympathy for her by throwing himself under the bus. A great tactic......but a bear faced lie. And I lost all respect for both clintons at that point.
Obama is flawed but I believe his motives are sincere. And he is the only one of the current choices we have that has a chance in hell at unifying not only the democratic party but everyone in general if he's able to put together the right team. I'd rather give him a chance than Hillary or McCain.
His color has nothing to do with my decision. I have a lot of respect for McCain as well ,though I don't want another republican in office.
There was a time I thought they should team up, but there's been so much bloodshed in this campaign. I think it is no longer possible or wise? I'm not sure.
Posted by: Steve | May 14, 2008 at 04:41 AM
The Media does not seem to accept that there are many grass roots voters who support Hillary Clinton. I am voting for Hillary Clinton whether or not she is on the ballot. I will write her in as a protest against the vitriolic press coverage she has endured. We need Hillary Clinton more than ever at this time in history. If this costs the Democrats the election, then so be it. I am tired of voting for candidates I did not pick. Hillary's plan for universal health care is the best.
Posted by: jenna cox | May 14, 2008 at 04:42 AM
Bama supporters don't seem to follow the qualities they claim to espouse: kindness, gentleness, accectance, tolerance--He has requested his supporters to cease their vitriolic jihad against Senator Clinton--But perhaps you are republicans--
Posted by: Doug | May 14, 2008 at 04:47 AM
Sam Ted:
How is it that Obama scares you? Not since JFK has any candidate spoken with such a message of hope, love and overcoming the problems of today's world. I do not mean to jump to conclusions, but the only way I can imagine that Obama scares you would be if you were a racist. It has become very clear to me and many others that Clinton is in the race for her own benefit. She wants to win for herself. If you just look into the eyes of each candidate you can see it yourself, in Obama's eyes are compassion and caring; all I see in Hilary's eyes is deviancy. As far as I can tell, the needs of you and I are second to her want, or what has become a physiological need, to win.
Posted by: spencer | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
I believe in positive change that starts with "Yes, we HAVE" and "Yes, we WILL" (rather than "Yes, we CAN"). I believe that when possible evolutionary development is more productive for humanity than revolutionary development. Therefore, I support Hillary Clinton for President and ask that you consider objectively her candidacy as well.
I am not either a Democrat or Republican but rather an Independent. For me, the individual candidates always take precedence over the political parties. I selected one Republican and three Democrats to review further and then narrowed my choice to Clinton. I am voting for Clinton NOT because she is a Democrat, a woman, an Anglo-American, a lawyer, and/or married with Bill Clinton. Rather, I am voting for Clinton because:
(1) I believe in her as a person;
(2) I believe in her platform (see http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ );
(3) I believe in her wealth of broad and long-term life and political experience;
(4) I believe that she is the BEST candidate to be President of our USA; and
(5) I believe that she is the BEST candidate to go up against McCain and WIN!
While I am willing to consider Obama for future presidential elections, Obama needs much more experience and clearly is NOT ready to be President (see A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can't Win by Shelby Steele). Also, I am concerned about where Obama really stands as regards racism. At 50 years of age, I have spent my whole life fighting discrimination, and I want to support a candidate who has a long-term positive record against discrimination - in this regard, I feel strongly confident with Clinton.
If you decide to support Clinton, take action now to make a positive difference:
(1) Support Seating the Florida and Michigan Delegates at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August 2008
Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/flmi/ and send an e-mail.
(2) Make Phone Calls in Support of Clinton For the Upcoming Primaries:
Kentucky, Oregon- May 20; Puerto Rico - June 1; Montana, South Dakota - June 3.
Go to http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/ and start telephoning!
(3) IF your budget permits, make a financial contribution to Clinton's campaign – no contribution, even $ 1, is too small, and Hillary is truly grateful for your investment in her and in our country! Go to https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=1 to contribute.
(4) Recognize that the debate about whether unpledged delegates (superdelegates) should exercise independent judgment OR support the candidate that does best in the primaries/caucuses, whether Democrat superdelegates should make their decisions as soon as possible, and whether Hillary Rodham Clinton should quit the race as soon as possible (regardless of the fact that there are 8 more primaries/caucuses left and the DNC meets only in late August)is based upon lack of research, knowledge, and understanding. According to the DNP's "Delegation Selection Rules for the 2008 DNC" at Rule 12J, "Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them." In essence, only PLEDGED delegates (and NOT UNPLEDGED delegates) have the obligation to follow the primary/caucus vote. In addition, the term "UNPLEDGED" means "unpromised, unengaged, unattached, uncommitted", which is consistent with independent judgment. For more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate . Finally, one primary feature of a democracy is competitive elections, and it is with this important democratic tradition in mind that Clinton rightfully continues on. For more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy.
In closing, I will be glad if your intellect and heart lead you to support Clinton for President. Please feel free to circulate my letter to others and to post it at other forums.
Respectfully, A Concerned American Who Values Democracy
Posted by: A Concerned American Who Values Democracy | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
"all she's doing is breaking the party. If she somehow manages to win the nomination, there is almost no way she can beat McCain - she's alienated too many Obama supporters for them to want to support her." Same thing I was thinking about Obama, I dont dislike Obama Like you Obama supporters Hate Hillary, but I do feel that he will not get the hillary supporters if he gets the nod. I will really have to take a hard look at John, he is more of a centered Dem then Obama and when it comes right down to it all the bad stuff will come out about Obama right before the election and he will not look very good to any of you either.
Posted by: ToBad | May 14, 2008 at 04:59 AM
Clinton and Obam have very similar stances on almost all the issues. Let's not try to get too caught up in the drama of the competition. Look forward to November...let's not have to eat our words when we are there voting for "the leader we [don't] need." Let's keep it positive people!!
Posted by: Jason Beebe | May 14, 2008 at 05:02 AM
In the beginning of this campaign I thought Hilary Clinton was more prepared to be president because she had more experience. But I realized as I listened that I was counting her time as the presidents wife as HER experience. If that is to be counted as her experience, then what kind of experience was it? Bill Clinton's presidency is best remembered for his LIES. So fast forward to Hilary's campaign. It has been full of political spin, exageration, and lies. Like her being shot at. Trust me, you don't forget being shot at or having a gun pointed at you. It remains very clear even years later. There's her experience showing.
I'm tired of pandering politicians and the guys with the most money or power having the most influence on policy. I want to feel like our president has integrity and moral values that will influence all decisions. Hilary Clinton is sneaky and telling people what she thinks they want to hear. I'm tired of politics as usual.
Posted by: Paula | May 14, 2008 at 05:09 AM
We always see how much campaing is done to let everyone knows how important is to vote. Always hear the same same motto, "vote, exercise your rights". However, Florida and Michigan states violated the voting rules by voting ahead of time and therefore the people, the citizens, the voters voices from those states are not important anymore. Help me to understand, is voting about being heard? Is voting about letting people to exercise their right to choose who they want as leaders? or Is voting about State's voting violations regarding the day the votations were supposed to happens?
Posted by: Ovi | May 14, 2008 at 05:14 AM
I like how everything the Obamabots say is directed away from reality. If Hillary Clinton is such a horrible candidate why did she wax Obama yesterday? Obamatons don't get it, Obama isn't all that. He can't win the general election because of his own mishandling of the Rev. Wright mess by heavily playing the race card. Now Obamabots call a vote for Clinton racist. That's the pot calling the kettle black, no pun intended. Michelle Obama's heavy hand has been driving this election into the splitting of black and white and calling out white Democrats about how far they'll go to support a black candidate. I saw her thesis, she was the one who polarized her view of the world as black and white, even going so far as to use those particular terms, not Euro-American, African-American, Latina/o, Asian, racially mixed, etc. It doesn't appear she has grown very much in her racially divided world since she wrote her senior thesis and most likely kept Obama in that racially divisive Rev. Wright's flock because she felt "comfortable" in that world as an elite among the people she feels are looked down upon by the rest of society.
Only recently have Michelle and Barrack even included Native Americans in their speeches. Let's not let America's original inhabitants be called by what we call ourselves, by our own individual tribal names like Apache, Kiowa, Lakota, Dakota, Seneca, Cheyenne, Navajo, Cherokee, one of the Pueblos, Tlingit, Annishinabe, Gabrielino/Tongva, etc. or more generally American Indians/Alaska Natives/Hawaiian Islanders, no let's use the terms the government and academics and white and black liberals choose as politically correct: "Native Americans." Obama is paying us lip service, that means he doens't know anything about American Indians nor will he know how to do the right thing when it comes to American Indians and how we've been treated and how to rectify the misdeeds and horrible treatment many endure to this day regarding denying our rights.
To me this is a microcosm of why Obama is the wrong candidate. He is uninformed and while he may be a quick study we really don't have time to wait until he learns on the job and have to endure his mistakes and gaffes until he becomes a more seasoned, well rounded leader. We Americans could have Hillary Clinton as our president now, someone who has been through the rigors of politics at the national level, who knows how to battle and fight for what is right for this country, someone who has paid their political dues rather than someone who has precious little experience at the national level but could become a very good leader given some time and experience in the Senate. But too many want to jump the gun and hand Obama the presidency without his having gone through the trials and tribulations that it takes to lead effectively in our nation's highest office.
If Obama get's the nomination I believe the strategy he and his people have employed will have effectively scared off and turned off many of the people needed to be victorious in a nationwide general election, the people Obama concedes won't vote for him and who he doesn't even bother trying to mend fences with, discarding them the way he and his followers claim Black Americans have been discarded by the so-called white run establishment (that's the kind of "loaded" terms, pejoratively connotated words, Michelle Obama used in her thesis, it came off as very sophomoric and quite frankly her saying "I'm proud of my country for the first time," sounded like someone who would have nodded her head while Rev. Wright hollered "G__ D__ America") . Many of those people have heard Obama's "say what is politically expedient at the moment" cliches and throwaway lines pandering to those he is front of at that particular moment, discourse that is racially divisive and expose his inexperience and lack of knowlege regarding what this country and its people are truly about. That is precisely why he can't win in November, regardless of what his immature neophyte supporters seem to only be willing to learn the hard way through a bitter defeat which will set this country back decades regarding race relations, throwing away what now seem like small gains we older people thought we had won over the last fifty years. And come Novermber thanks for giving the election to the Republicans, again, unthinking Obama supporters. So go ahead and flame and insult away at my post Obama minions, that seems to be the only thing you know how to do. So much for keeping it positive. You Obama folks only care about shoving Obama down the rest of our collective throats as some kind of payback for slights real and imagined. If Obama truly cared at all about this country, more than his own and his wife's egos, he would have been the one to withdraw from this race, deferring to a future time, or at least not played the race card so heavily, so early on in the campaign.
Posted by: Joe | May 14, 2008 at 05:14 AM
As a conservative I will be honest, I love what I am seeing. Please Hillary stay in the race till the bitter end, fight amongst yourselves and use legal trickery to change the rules and steal the nomination. The longer you prevent the Democrats from forming a unified front for the Presidential election the greater the chance the Republicans will have. If you look at the big picture, just the fact that the Republicans have a chance to win the election after eight years of the most unpopular president in American history says a whole lot about what the Democrats are offering. So by all means Hillary fight on!
Posted by: David | May 14, 2008 at 05:36 AM
African Americans or Blacks account for 13.4% of the US population and over 44% of the prison population who are disenfranchised.
I think that to say that Obama is being elected because he has the overwhelming support of the Black vote is ludicrous! That would mean that 100% of blacks of voting age or not would have to be registered and voting. If this is true then it is truly a proud time to be an African American in this country because that would mean that we as a race are 100% politically conscious.
This is simply a tactic by the Clinton camp to marginalize the fact that Obama is uniting and electrifying a lot more than just the Black constituency. Meanwhile statements like "we need hard-working white workers to win in November" is supposed to be unifying and says nothing to the countless Blacks who have supported Bill and still support her - but for how much longer now.
Posted by: F Evans (USN Retired) | May 14, 2008 at 05:59 AM
Yes, Stay in the race, Mrs Clinton! You still have some dignity left!
Posted by: Shiv | May 14, 2008 at 06:31 AM
I mean come on! Her campaign debt, and the added security detail? How can she say she's still in the race for the waitress on her feet and the health care worker when it will ultimately those people who will pay down the debt for this ego trip she is on. She's not going to win, she's still way far behind, and the only reason she is in this race is for herself.
Posted by: amb | May 14, 2008 at 06:35 AM
"More determined than ever...." well, she can be determined but she can't change the math or the losing results over the past 43+ elections. She will lose, and being more determined than ever doesn't change the idiotic nature of her continuation of the race.
Terry McAuliffe and Howard Wolfson and most of all Hillary Clinton are sounding like idiots on the air these days. It's consistent with the "I don't listen to the experts" policy of her campaign, with the gas tax holiday sham and now even the irrefutable and simple mathematics of delegate count is not to be believed.
Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 at 06:43 AM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1 | May 14, 2008 at 06:49 AM
Obama does not have core Democrats because he has a short resume and doesn't seem to have worked very hard. Hillary has always worked harder, because she is professional a woman! ( I know from personal experience as well..women have to worker harder to be recognized! )..she does her homework and she has a track record. Obama is all talk. If he had credentials like Colin Powell, their would be no issue. I cannot/won't vote for Obama.
Posted by: LaurenR1 | May 14, 2008 at 06:57 AM
Obama, Clinton, McCAin they're all from the same mould. 6 of one ,etc. Mainstream candidacy represents a prolonged stay in Iraq, an invasion of Iran and a further decline in our economy helping to ensure a negative ending to democracy and a positive step toward our place as a 3rd world dictatorship. Our loss of freedoms will only double under any one of these candidates. Congress is made up of corporate puppets and the man or woman in charge is no exception. All freedoms are maintained by disciplines and constraints but not necessarily to satisfy governments need to stay
in power. We are slowly but inevitably moving toward a Socialist dictatorship and it is being exacerbated by our leaders ignoring the Constitution and " ameliorating " the bill of rights to suit their own purposes. If there is a God, may he help us all when one of these appointed demigods take the helm of a ship that is already sinking with democracy as it's passenger.
Posted by: puciret | May 14, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Thank you Patrick Knif. ----------------- I agree with everything you said. Also, I notice the reality of facts and the respectful and intelligent comments Hillary supporters make on these blogs, a reflection of her good leadership. The Obama supporters statements read angry, out of focus and filled with hate. This might be a true reflection of their candidate Obama.
Posted by: Seni | May 14, 2008 at 09:03 AM
It's time for Obama to get out of the race. It's time for people like the above blogger "Sam Ted" to pay attention to the facts and not how the media twists it. Hillary's campaign didn't suddenly change the number from 2025 to 2209. IT WAS ALWAYS 2209. Obama was the one who pulled himself out of the Michigan race. Obama was the one who decided not to campaign in Florida. Those millions of voters DID NOT put up a fuss because he wasn't fully participating in their states because they wanted Hillary all along. They are Americans and their votes must be counted. They knew something all along that the rest of the country is just finding out. Face it, if the rest of the primaries were held now Obama would win very few of them. We didn't know much about this guy and what we are learning isn't pretty. It 's a wonder and frightening that he was voted into the Senate. If we knew then what we know now we'd have all voted for Hillary. I want to change my primary vote to her. I wish I could. I pray we can vote for her in the General. If not, I'm voting McCain.
Posted by: D. Lynn | May 14, 2008 at 09:12 AM
From this pic, it sure looks like this fat-headed lady is singing.
Posted by: Franky | May 14, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Hillary has shown herself to be a ruthless politician and a racist. She will say anything, do anything and attack anyone regardless of the damage to get ahead.
She like her husband lack a moral compass and only play by their rules.
As a lifetime democrat it hurts to watch the damage she is doing to the party. I for one will either sit out the November election if she is nominated or vote for McCain.
Posted by: glenn | May 14, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Like a bad poker player-doesn't know when to get out, but hurts everyone around them playing. As far as her debt, Obama should not pay back one dime for her...........AS she may have told Bill in the past, she made this bed and she must lay in it.....
Posted by: jay | May 14, 2008 at 09:55 AM
I agree with you Patrick Knif.
The Obama campaign has wanted to stop Hillary in her tracks 3 times now... probably because they are worried that more will be discovered about his past.
And Hillary has earned the right to forge her campaign forward! She has battled the press, media, and even her own Democratic Party, who has treated her shabbily trhoughout this process! Not to mention Obama's hypocritical campaign methods of bait and switch.
Posted by: BJ | May 14, 2008 at 10:18 AM
What does the woomans feels about HRC still fighting, in a world where that genre is left with just what the male world leave to them? Is it a real missing oportunity when a good HRC president would leave a red carpet for BO on the next presidential race? It is sad but 30%-40% of her genre choose to give their back to her and years of male/man history. Once againg they digg their own hole and buried with them once in a life oportunity.
Posted by: dennis urbano | May 14, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Keep on going Hillary! If this were a man competing we would not be hearing the patronizing and veiled sexist comments that the news, pundits, super delegates and good ole boys club continually put out there. Chris Matthews "if she would JUST go quietly" says it all. As a woman, and not just any woman, but one running for the highest office of the land, Hillary should be treated with the dignity and respect due the nominee. Instead she has been mocked, put down, made fun of and more while Obama gets mostly a free ride. Is it any wonder that women are supporting Hillary in large numbers? and will continue to do so to the end. I call on all women to support Hillary because we deserve a REAL CHANGE
and a voice to be heard. I suggest that Hillary is the ONE making change even now by not bowing to the two- party system that usually ends the nominating process in the first few primaries. Witness the call for Hillary to drop out before the New Hampshire primary. Hillary has been the spear of change by allowing ALL the states to have a voice. She did not remove her name from the Michigan ballot or skip West Virginia. Obama says he wants to do things differently but uses establishment support (a la Ted Kennedy and others), has taken an elitist stance, and is very much in favor of the old way. Hillary has become the EVITA PERON of the United States, fighting for the laborers, and going to the people. She has truly started CHANGE and a new way of doing business. Hillary is living and exhibiting the CHANGE that Obama is purporting. If not President, she should be Vice Pres. Obama's choice of McCaskill or any other woman as running mate as a means of throwing a bone to Hillary supporters will surely be the most incendiary thing he could do. Hillary deserves to be first woman VP and
it will fuel the fire for women to see a random choice replace her and have this other person gain recognition in history. So, beware of what you wish for. Women will
start voting men out of office that don't support their efforts. Senator Dodd and others, you have been put on notice. We deserve to be treated with respect and the buck stops here. Hillary, KEEP ON GOING.
Posted by: colette in Farmington | May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM
What is wrong with this woman?now that the the election has been decided(true it's not over just decided). She owes an explanation for this bizarre behavior.What about simple math does she not understand. You cannot call your competition unelectable when he has come from nowhere to kick your butt in 30 elections.You cannot call your competition inexperienced when he has held elected office longer than you.(your only older) and the list of implusible arguments goes on and on. So Hillary, please come clean and tell us whats up this is the last time anyone will listen.
Posted by: whitey | May 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Apparently she needs a hearing aid because everyone else is hearing one thing and she's hearing another!!
Posted by: Winn | May 14, 2008 at 11:18 AM
We can be heard if you listen Hillary.We're saying go away you creep!
Posted by: jose lopez | May 14, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Honestly, Cacuses are the most undemocratic thing I have ever seen besides Jebb Bush stealing Flordia. To say Obama won more RED states that will go republican, with moveon.org and that was fair ? is why democrats lose every time or are one termers except FRD and Bill Clinton.
Pelosi, Reid had excuses when they were minority party, now majority -still weak, Gore Kerry, Dean, Carter, Dukakis, Mondale, Humphrey, even Liberman switched sides almost; Mc Govern, Stevenason need I go on? Obama will lose. The longer she stays the more I believe in a stronger perosn Hillary. Meida is so Obama liberal biased more than ever and they will drop one like a hot potato when the facts come in for the empty suit Obama who hasn't held one meeting on Afganistan, now wears a flagpin and ,finally, salutes flag -from humble Muslim beginings-father-grandfather, etc. and Wright, Ayers, Rezko -well 0we will see. On Bil Clinton and FDR got re-elected what can the rest say?
Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Stay in the race Hillary until the August convention. Then whip them all into shape. You can do it. Let's keep them from nominating an inexperienced, naive individual that the media has created as a holy comic book character. Obama has no substance, unless you care to call the reverend wright his substance advisor? Go Hillary.
The DNC is just a crock of you know what, that Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi are working hard to destroy based on their love of obama.
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, my vote is going to John McCain - never to the obama/wright duo.
Posted by: CalifLady36 | May 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM