Hillary Clinton apologizes to Kennedys

In a talk with the Argus Leader in South Dakota earlier today, Hillary Clinton  took a walk through political history -- and stepped on a figurative land mine. Asked about her continuing campaign against increasingly long odds, she invoked 1968 and the assassination of Bobby Kennedy fairly late in the primary calendar. Her intent seemed to be to point out that anything can happen.

But with Ted Kennedy gravely ill, and an undercurrent in the election of the risks Barack Obama faces, well, the reaction was not quite what she expected. Which led the campaign to release this statement a few minutes ago:

"Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."

Gaffes like that don't help you play catch up with the SuperDs.

-- Scott Martelle

Comments

[Destini]

Her intent was not to poit out that "anything can happen">

It was to point out that there is historical precidence for campaigns going well into the summer undecided. That is why she mention her husband's campaign as well as RFK's. If tragedy had not struck RFK when it did the campaign would have gone on much, much longewr.

[Bob Kholos]

No wonder why Hillary Clinton has a 50% negative rating.

[brandy]

What about Obama's gaffes, which get almost no media exposure?

--57 or is it 58 states in the US?

--The Great Lakes of Oregon?

--Iran is small threat? Or grave threat? Depends on the day that you ask Obama.

--They speak Arabic in Afghanistan?

--There's a President in Canada?

--What about the fact that he was born 4 years before the event that precipitated his birth?

His campaign said that he was "metaphorically" speaking.

--Kentucky is closer to Arkansas than Illinois even though Kentucky BORDERS ILLINOIS AND ARKANSAS DOES NOT.

--He does not know about Hanford even though Hanford is the most toxic site in the US, a security risk, and poses environmental and human health dangers.

AND HE VOTED ON A BILL REGARDING HANFORD JUST THREE YEARS AGO.

Let's start counting Obama's gaffes, especially since they appear to be growing exponentially by the day.

[N.E. BodybutHillary]

I just read on MSNBC that Hillary has referenced the Robert Kennedy assassination as a reason to stay in the race. Everybody MUST STOP supporting this sick twisted psychopath.

[Tex]

Brandy, there is a different between harmless gaffes where someone mis-states a fact and everyone knows it was an accident (e.g. Obama saying 57 states instead of 47 states) and making a remark suggesting she's staying in the race in case Obama gets assassinated in June like RFK.

In fairness to Clinton: when I first heard the reports of what she said, I was outraged, but when I listened to the interview it seemed she was inarticulately trying to make the point that nominating contests sometimes go until June. Nevertheless, it was in extremely poor taste for her to say it that way -- why couldn't she just say Bobby Kennedy didn't win the nomination until June? This is not a "57-state" caliber gaffe, this is a "bitter-gate" caliber gaffe, and she needs to make an appropriate apology (which she has yet to do). Whether HRC likes it or not, the implication of her comment (whether intended or not) was that she is sticking around in case Obama gets assassinated.

Even Mike Huckabee had enough sense to immediately apologize for his dumb joke about someone pointing a gun at Obama.

[robinia]

Hillary,

The media is getting ridiculous. I dislike Hillary just as much the next person, and I sincerely did not think she intended to be offensively shallow. The Kennedy's know that, and most sensible people know that. Hillary is not that twisted...is she?

[marla OC, Ca.]

When I heard this, I immediately thought, how apropos. Obama's campaign is now trouncing on 'much to do about nothing' the way Clinton has trounced since his Iowa win. Turnabout is fair play.

[Mark]

To think that I actually considered voting for HRC early in the campaign. Her comments and intractability in the face of insurmountable odds speak of sheer desperation. She is embarassing herself and possibly harming a potential future run for the presidency. And frankly at this juncture, she would make a lousy running mate for Sen. Obama. She thinks she is somehow special and entitled to continue this charade and refuses to recognize the inevitablility of the process. This is the most selfish display by a candidate I can recall in recent presidential elections.

[Ezes]

Last i checked, the Democratic Party convention in 1968 was one of the most violent, tumultuous political events in modern US history, and that was in the midst of a social revolution, AND it signaled the ascendance of the conservative movement on a nationwide scale. Maybe Hillary longs for a return to that chaos... when she was a true progressive btw, not the triangulating chameleon she's become.

[Robert]

Funny how the media ignored Hillary after she won WV by 41 points and KY by 36 votes. Now she makes a silly comment and all of a sudden the media remembers who she is. I dont care about Hillary's gaffes. I am loyal and will thus support her until the end. HIllary is the best candidate running for president. PERIOD

[jamesincalifornia]

Of course Hillary Clinton is trying to squirm her way out of this gaffe and make it appear she was just misunderstood. It won't work. The implications of her remarks were all too clear. Clinton needs to apologize not only to the Kennedy family but also to Barack Obama and the American people. She should be ashamed ... thoroughly ashamed.

[San Ying]

Hillary Clinton has made too many statements for which she 'apologized'. Apologies only accentuate the blunder or lie. So she had better be careful not to 'misspeak' again. Are these 'misspoken' statements signs of a disquieting mental state or condition which disqualifies her candidacy for the world's most demanding and important job? Her 'sell-by' date is not that distant.

[Harry Grace]

Actually, if you listen to the apology from her campaign, they're saying, essentially, "we're sorry you guys didn't understand us". Another classic HRC refusal to just say "I'm sorry, I was wrong". It's pathological with this woman, just like it's pathological with Bush. Probably why they both wanted the Iraq War.

[abdul rahim]

Hillary will never leave the stage. And she would like someone to help her out by eliminating Obama. But she didn't "mean it that way." Of course she didn't. Right.

[BRFK]

Swift and absolute action is required on behalf of all Democrats, all Americans and all People to denounce such hideous analogies. This is not the first time Senator Clinton has used the specter of death as a call to action in her campaign, and it is certainly not the worst (showing a willingness to obliterate an entire nation certainly wins the award for most awful). We cannot stand for politics that play on fear, we cannot stand for politics that play such overt games with the psyche of a nation. We cannot stand for a candidate who raises the issue of the destruction of lives as the reason to support their candidacy, and worse, the reason for their own hopes for the future.

Support Senator Obama, denounce the comments and tactics of Senator Clinton and send a message to the people of this great nation and the world that we see a future of Promise, Hope and Peace.

[Stop Hillary]

CNN reports that this is the second time she made the very same assertion. Last time it was in a Time interview. She is indeed one sick puppy. This is beyond bad taste. This now bespeaks the lack of ethics for those those who would continue to cast a blind eye to her vile tactics. She is essentially saying let's wait and see if Barack lives to become the nominee. Nobody, absolutely nobody should condone her actions or put any spin on them.

[Benny]

This election is some sort of Battle of the Outrage All-Stars. Obama - Rev. Wright, Hillary - Bosnian fire, Obama - Michelle's patriotism, Hillary - Bill, Obama - bitter white people with guns and religion, Hillary - RFK's assassination late in the primary season.... So, does the candidate who has inspired the least outrage win? What an insightful way to choose a presidential candidate...!

[Dennis]

Come one folks, even as a non-supporter, I know what she meant and she didn't mean what people are criticizing her for. I think it was just a stupid mistake and of course, it just makes her look bad. Why didn't she just that both her husband and RFK campaigned into June?why would you invoke the memory of someone getting assasinated--regardless of what your point is?

I am critical however of all the new ways she's trying to justify why she should stay in the race. First, it's because of the super delegates. Then, it's because i will do better against McCain. Then it's because i won the bigger states. Then, it's making sure Florida and Michigan are represented. Then, it's because i can get the racist white vote. Then, it's the popular vote. Now it's because other candidates have done so in the past? What's next?

Her story changes each time Obama proves her wrong. Of course, God forbid, we actually go with whomever wins the delegate count.

[Dennis]

To brandy: "Let's start counting Obama's gaffes, especially since they appear to be growing exponentially by the day."

Clinton voted in support of the Iraq war. Oops.

[Scott]

Ouch. Some things you just don't incite. She is done. Unforgivable.

[Andi]

Clinton is beyond vile.

Please contact Howard Dean (deanh@dnc.org) and Nancy Pelosi (http://speaker.house.gov/) to let them know how you feel. You can also go to this website and lobby the Uncommitted Superdelegates in each state (https://www.lobbydelegates.com/)

Please take action.

[Joe American]

Who gives a rip? Anybody remember Chappaquiddick? Kennedy is a slime ball not fit to lick Hillary's boot!

[annie]

Hilary has NOTHING to apologize for.

This is another example of OBAMAS DIRTY POLITICS, DIVISIVE POLITICS and RACE BAITING.

Obama is willing to hurt this nation for his own self interests.

This has only done one thing....helped me MAKE UP MY MIND ....I will NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.....even if I have to vote Republican.

I cannot in good conscious vote for a person who sat in a racist church for 20 years and applauded, cheered, supported and funded RACISM and ANTI-AMERICAN propoganda.

Yet this is the same man that is willing to TRASH a former First Lady and make ridiculous insinuations in order to win this election.

This latest action by Obama was the LAST STRAW ....

I will NO LONGER be able to Vote for Obama

[Justice]

I agree with Brandy.

Obama gets more free passes than Hillary, and the big to-do about the "Bosnia" remarks were about as harmless as Obama's gaffes. It's not like she lied about Bosnia having a war.

Obama gets to "joke away" his gaffes, but Hillary has to apologize profusely for hers.

But overall, this contest has been more about non-issues than the real problems that are facing our nation. It's kind of silly when "mis speaks" garner more coverage between supporters than what is going on in the world... such as, the earthquake in China, the cyclone in Myanmar, the war in Irag, etc.

I understand this presidential election is one of the most important ones we will have in the history of the US, so it's really sad that so many of us are saying so many nasty things to each other. Let us just agree to disagree, without using profane language against each other, or the candidates we support. They are both good people, with good intentions.

[KYJurisDoctor]

A new LOW in politics has been descended into by the AWFUL Clintons.

Now, if you can't beat your opponent with ideas and BOGUS "experience" and you CANNOT incite racial hatred against your opponent, you speak of a wish that your opponent be off'ed in June before the primary!

SHAME on BILLARY. You ARE UNFIT to be President!!

[KYJurisDoctor]

A new LOW in politics has been descended into by the AWFUL Clintons.

Now, if you can't beat your opponent with ideas and BOGUS "experience" and you CANNOT incite racial hatred against your opponent, you speak of a wish that your opponent be off'ed in June before the primary!

SHAME on BILLARY. You ARE UNFIT to be President!!

[Barbara]

So why didn't she apologize to Obama? She was implying that HE could be assassinated. Disgusting. Hillary, go home, your done. No VP slot for you.

[LCSusan]

Damn, like a blow to the gut...so, so sad.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com/2008/05/23/when-really-smart-women-say-really-stupid-things.aspx

[Majadi]

You know what, let's just stop playing games. Hillary Clinton meant her statement just how it sounds. She is hoping that Obama gets killed so she can ascend her thrown. She has been pissed that this black guy has somehow stolen it from her. She is from the old school, and in the old school it was always thought that it would be a white women before any black. She is mad as hell that Barack Obama has smashed that notation and didn't wait his turn like a good little black boy would do. Her supporters feel the same way. You can keep making all the excuses you want, but we all know the real truth laying deep within. White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Arab, etc. RACISM is alive aand real. Hillary Clinton is far too intelligent to have just made a gaffe...get real people.

[MaoTseClinton]

Yknow, I can tolerate a certain level of lies, non-promises, gaffes.... but she's gone beyond the pale again and again.

I didn't think she could top the bizarre convoluted math to win, I didn't think she could top the "Whites Luve Me!!!" argument.

But this.... It's as if she's thinking aloud that "HEY! If someone kills Obama, I'll be the front runner". It doesn't matter if she's male or female, white or black. And her excuse was "Oh, I've been thinking of all the dead Kennedys". What???

Maybe that's the logic behind Clinton (Bill) trying to fight for her to be the VP. They may honestly believe Obama won't make it past the election, and then she'd be president for *almost* two terms.

They both scare me, possibly as much as Bush and Cheney do.

[Phil Doggy]

I just got off the phone with a Kennedy family member, and I want all to know that the family is not miffed at Hillary for her comments on Bobby. Although the family does stress that Hillary is no Kennedy, and never will be. Lets all pray that Uncle Ted gets better. I told him years ago to put the bottle down, and well, here we are with a liquored up tumor, the poor basttard. Anyways the family wants you all to know they appreciate your prayers, and wants you all to vote McCain in November.

In Christian Love, Phil

[Rdav]

There is a list circulating the e-mail about how people who got in Hillary and Bill's way mysteriously wound up dead. Now coupled with Hillary's vengeance towards the Kennedy's for supporting Obama, and her losing the Democratic nomination it may be a resonable deduction to believe she was hinting at Obama's untimely death.

For those of you who claim to be loyal, are you loyal because of gender, sex, or race, or are you able to discern that we need a President who can fulfill the job requirements of presidency...my mistake, there seem to be no rules beyond being a US citizen, being at least 35 years of age and having lived in America for 14 years... a person going for a job at a 7-11 or mini-mart has more requirements.

Let's us use intelligence this time and get a candidate who can actually do something right and get our military folks home with their loved ones, get healthcare, make better environments for us and our progeny and better education for our kids.

Loyalty can be blinding and blind loyalty is foolish!

[WTL]

There seems to be a pattern. As Stop Hillary said above, Clinton has done this before, and she used almost exactly the same words in explaining why she shouldn't stop campaigning. Since there are so many ways for her to make her case without such references, that's no accident; it's calculated. Clinton doesn't make that kind of egregious, nightmarish mistake (if she does, she's automatically disqualified to be president). There's no other way to put it: It’s as if she’s subconsciously calling for Obama’s assassination. Having lived through all three '60s assassinations, which marked me for life in a very bad way, I think he’s already in danger because of what he represents – some people love to be the one to destroy other people’s hopes and dreams – and I hate even to talk about it, it makes me sick. But Obama brings JFK and RFK – especially JFK – to mind just because he’s so new and fresh and different, and now Clinton has said this at least twice, in the same language, and Huckabee has said it once. It's what many people are beginning to associate with Obama, and that’s not only bad for the campaign but it actually increases the danger to Obama as people like Sirhan Sirhan pick up on this meme and take it upon themselves to be the one to do it. For whatever reason. And as we all know, the Secret Service can’t always save a president’s or candidate’s life. This is a horrible situation, and I'm appalled that Clinton could do this, and seem so unaware of how awful it is.

[BobbyG]

The Hardworking White American Woman Candidate dog whistles "Put the Asset on Standby."

In the wake of Hillary's "gaffe" today mentioning the murder of Robert F. Kennedy as one tangential rationale for her staying in the primary race, it occurs that, well, nothing whispers "psst- hey, I want to be your running mate" as effectively as does reminding the electorate of prior Presidential candidate assassinations.

[Steve]

For crying out loud , what is it with you people ? Get all cranked up about nothing other than a comment . You seem to base who is going to be President on who has a big nose , which baseball team they support , fashion sense ,anything other than the ability to govern a nation and reinstate the USA as a world leader . Maybe thats why you got Bush twice !

[Anne]

And this person is applying for a job that requires DIPLOMACY?

[Charles]

Both candidates make mistakes. But in this instance, just like the Bosnia case, this statement also has a track history. She made the same statement in March.

As for the length of the Primary season, her husband for all intents and purposes, had his nomination locked up by the end of March. Paul Tsongas, the last real threat, withdrew in mid-March.

The season in which Bobbie Kennedy participated in was thrown into chaos when Johnson withdrew after losing in New Hampshire on MARCH 12, 1968 and Kennedy announced his candadicy. Note the date: MARCH 12. The beginning of the primary. Only 13 states had primaries (how far we have come in only 40 years....). Humphrey had 561 delegates, Kennedy 393, and McCarthy had 258.

This is a history she knows, she was politically active already. This is just a continuance of Bosnia.....if she can get away with it once, why not twice?

[On the Clock]

She apologizes to the Kennedys, without mentioning Obama.

Nice try, Hill. Thanks for the peak into your dreamscape. See you in the funny papers.

[jh]

A question for annie...
From your comments you seem to think it is Barack Obama's fault that Hillary Clinton made a gaffe in invoking (for the second time) Robert Kennedy's asassination? Why are you seeming to blame him for Mrs. Clinton's unfortunate choice of words?

[Dee]

Robert Kennedy Jr. issued the following statement this evening:

"It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

The Argus editorial board also confirmed what Hillary Clinton said was about June primaries, not about assassinations.

I'm sure the truth won't stop the criticism, but the LA Times should report the news, not make up the news. Even blogs should have integrity. And the bloggers on this site who spew hatred toward Hillary should take a deep breath. Get a life. If you hate your mom, find a therapist.

[El]

Inciting murder is not a "gaffe" nor is it a "joke". Those who think so are in serious denial. Neither Clintor nor Huckabee said those things "out of the blue". Obama scares the corporate maniacs who pull the Old School strings. Can we trust the Secret Service to protect Obama from these people?

[lebecka]

to annie--
doesn't sound like you were gonna vote for Obama anyway.

Hillary and her supporters- what a class act. Glad she won't be representing my country.

[joe]

No Bama, the landslide against him will be worse than McGovern, Dukaksis and Mondale combined.

People are so gullible to believe the empty rhetoric of the DNC's mouthpiece.

[DavidB]

Fist it was Mike Huckabee; now it's Hillary Clinton. In both cases, the suggestion and seed planting are clear.

[Slim]

I'm now hoping that she stays in the race as long as possible. Give her lots of rope, and watch her hang herself. I can't wait to see what she comes up with next.

As far as I'm aware she's continuing only to garner enough donations to recoup the multimillion dollar loan she made to her campaign. Anyone still in her camp is either (a) pretty stupid and willing to be used and discarded, or (b) a cornered racist with nowhere to go if she drops out. Going by the support she still has, there's lots of both out there.

[Bill]

The problem with Hillary's explanation is that Bill Clinton had the nomination to himself in March of 1992. Not June. When Tsongas dropped out, only Edmund G Brown was left, and Bill had a 7-1 lead over him. It was over.

So the "June" coincidence and thus the analogy she says she was making is another "sniper fire" mistake, no?

[ROBERT MANN]

She acts as though the Obamas do not exist -- as though they are not worthy of consideration. Her "apology" to the Kennedy family is a bit bizarre. Only they are worthy of her concern. But, of course, they suffered no injury. Her "apology" is displaced from those whom she actually injured.

[LAShores]

Hillary is a dangerously insane person and should not be let out of the house.
P.S.
Keith Olberman speaks for me!

[Mark]

To parody Hillary - "As far as I know" she has never had an opponent assassinated.

[mona]

If journalists did report factual based news reports and actually did some research instead of always sprinting to the SPIN cycle, you would find she has said this sooo many times throughout this campaign. However, because it's all about making sure Obama is pampered and powdered the media prefers to SPIN this and make him the victim. The longer this process continues the more I realize just how ridiculous the American media has become. Journalists have become so pathetic you should all be writing and reporting for the National Enquirer.

[Kristina Thorpe]

Clinton did NOT apologize to anyone for anything. If one reads the statement above they will see "regret ...if referencing ...was offensive." There is no apology anywhere in this statement. And, in fact, the "regret" is only expressed "IF it was offensive" (my italics). This is NOT an apology.

[suzyku]

She did NOT apologize! She said she regretted if she offended the Kennedy's! That is not an apology. She doesn't even have the class or smarts to apologize to Obama! She's so blinded by her own selfish ambition that she can't see the forest for the trees. She has lost it and it's time for the superdelegates to show some courage and stop her by giving their support to Obama! I don't want her answering the phone at 3a.m., she'd pull the trigger without thinking first, she's dangerous.

[George Allen]

Just having her Henry II moment: "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest . . ."

The word is the mother of the deed.

She and her reckless campaign nurture bigotry.

Threats to obliterate Iran, with its 70 million population, at least 3/4 of whom want to get along with us.

Multiple mentions of assassination, referencing JFK in January of this year and then Bobby Kennedy in March and again today.

Incitement to violence is a common law crime and a statutory crime in almost every jurisdiction. What she has said is good enough reason for the Secret Service to add her name to those whom they watch very carefully because of histories of past threats.

George M. Allen
Telluride, Colorado

[Venita]

Mona -
Don't you think it's the least bit outrageous that Hillary has repeatedly mentioned the RFK assassination as a reason to stay in the campaign?

If that's all she's got, then she really DOES need to get out, because it means even SHE believes she can only win by default.

I'm old enough to remember MLK and RFK being assassinated, and even JFK!

ASSASSINATIONS ARE NOT SOMETHING TO MENTION EVEN AS A REMOTE POSSIBILITY!

Many people have been worried about this for Senator Obama since the start, and praying the whole time that all would be safe.

But we certainly DO NOT need Senator Clinton saying that she's staying in the race for the nomination JUST IN CASE.....!!!!

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[Kevin]

Keep fighting, Hillary!

-McCain Supporter

[catedratica]

give me a stinking break, and get over your rhetoric induced haze, most shocked obama followers. clinton's comments had less to do with obama, or kennedy for that matter, than with the fact that there was campaigning in june during a presidential election year. what obviously distinguished '68 from '92 was the rfk assassination, and one cannot adequately discuss the earlier campaign without acknowledging this tragedy. and you're supposed to be the highly educated ones? oh, that's right, historical accuracy has no place in public discourse. might conflict with the message of hope and change.

[clarity]

Not her first time saying this.... PLEASE READ
according to TIME

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hillarys_bizarre_rfk_comment.html

Though she has now apologized for that very strange and tasteless comment to the Argus-Leader, this was not the first time she's said it. This from her interview with TIME Managing Editor Richard Stengel, published March 6:

TIME: Can you envision a point at which--if the race stays this close--Democratic Party elders would step in and say, "This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall"?

CLINTON: No, I really can't. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual.

Her excuse now is that the Kennedys have been "much on my mind these days" with the illness of Senator Edward Kennedy, but that doesn't explain what brought it to mind more than two months ago.

UPDATE: H/T to commenter Elvis Elvisberg, who notes that even the reference to her own husband's campaign was wrong. Bill Clinton's primary race was effectively over in March.

[Valoriek]

Look,

I've enjoyed these blogs for some time, but in the interest
of getting this country on a good course, I think it's time to stop being so divisive and accept that some of us are not going to have our #1 choice for the Democratic nominee, but isn't defeating the Republican candidate most important thing? Let's stop arguing Clinton vs. Obama and support who we get, plesase I beg you, we cannot afford four more years, it will destroy us. As it whichever democrat becomes President, it will take at least 8 years to clean up the huge mess left over from the disaster we have had in power for the past eight.
The new President will need our passion then, let's save it and move on! I just hope all of you will be there for the new Pres. God Bless

[Steve]

HRC seems to be feeling exhausted, depressed, feeling rejected, and angry. She blew a line. Like this: The RFK assassination meme has been trotted out before. Huckabee joked about it. So she had the historical anecdote ready. But the cue was not supposed to be "why stay in?". The cue was supposed to be "aren't you woprried that Dems will not have enoungh time to campaign..?" Did HRC miss the cue intentionally? Pr'ly not. Did the idea of murder come up when discussing those who want her to concede. Well, yes. And that's not leadership.

[Miri NY]

We all must denounce and disown Hillary Rodham Clinton for her shocking remarks about the RFK assassination. In the context of her prior racial appeals & allegations of extremist ties by Sen. Obama & her calims that his victory over her is due sexism by Sen. Obama the unbalanced could very well take this as an invitation. She should withdraw not only from the campaign but from public life.

[mona]

Oh Venita, you too should work for the National Enquirer or better yet why not Wheel of Fortune? You have a 50% chance of winning with the right SPIN.

[J. Murphy]

Well, first hurtle cleared! She's apologized to the family of the national hero whose name she disgraced and whose tragic death she callously exploited.

Wouldn't a nice second step be, oh, I don't know, apologizing to Obama for calling for his assassination?

This atrocity should:

a. Convince all but the most cowardly superdelegates to move, immediately and en masse, to Obama, and settle this debacle right now. Today.

b. Rule her out, totally, for any consideration as a VP candidate. To put it mildly, it would be an unacceptable security risk to have a VP who's waiting for a member of her Faithful to step forward and do what it takes to move her up to the top spot.

c. Finish her career in the Senate. I can't imagine how or why the career of any politician on the national level would survive their saying something this horrifying.

This is not a gaffe. This is not a slip-up. This is not a factual error. This is calling for the assassination of the presumed nominee for president. She spends time courting racist voters, then we're supposed to believe she was just musing aloud about the death of RFK--the politcal figure, by the way, to whom Obama is most often compared?

There've been times, over the last few weeks, when, watching her campaign tactics, I've thought I'd rather see McCain as president than her. Then I thought, "no--that would be like a third Bush term." Now--and I truly can't believe I'm saying this--I think I would LITERALLY rather see a third Bush term. Not even just McCain. Bush himself. She now disgusts me that much.

[Jack]

I'm sorry if anyone has misinterpreted anything I have ever done as being wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth, even saying those campaigns were 6 months when they were actually 4.

[longtimewatcher]

Mona, this is the first time she mentioned this as a reason to stay in the race. I think she needs a better reason, like, maybe, that she has a chance to win.

[Spot]

Can you imagine America being run by Hillary AND Bill Clinton? That's what you'll get if you vote for Hillary. Bill was busy playing 'who has the cigar'.Who ran the government then? I've read that Hillary is a bully to her underlings.We need Obama who is a diplomat, not a bully, respects underlings and those with power.GWB has alienated the world against America w/war games & doing his King of America act.Hillary wants to do her Queen of America act. No. I'd vote for a dog before I'd vote for her. btw, Has anyone noticed her expression when she thinks she's not being observed?? Spot

[Jack McGrath]

This woman will say or do anything to try to rest the nomination from Obama. She cannot accept the fact that she is finished this year.

If she continues her desperate moves, she will start to hurt herself for her US Senate seat. She needs to quit her race on Memorial Day, and go home to NY with Bill.

[DK]

Why are folks mad at Obama? This is all about the media blowing things out of proportion. Obama had nothing to do with this. Of course, Clinton made a stupid mistake.

Are you kidding? Obama doesn't get slack for his gaffes. What about his comment about poor whites? And aren't folks still thinking about his relationship with Rev. Wright?

And folks are right, that was not an apology. That was a politician's apology: I didn't do anything wrong, but I'm sorry if I offended you. Please.

[DaveT]

Sen. Clinton has bottomed out. By invoking the assassination of Robert Kennedy speaks volumes of her insensitivity in a highly charged political race. Clinton inadvertently invites the spector of assassination. Or "something bad happening" to Obama. She already embraces the racism of rural White Appalachia. She stood silent as attack ads tried to link Osama Bin Laden with Obama. She embraced remarks by McCain against Obama without realizing that such comments are targeted against her own party. Clinton raises the "sex card" while nothing of the sort has taken place. Yet she remains silent when white voters declare their intolerance of a potential black president. Clinton voted for the war in Iraq. But calls for peace. Yet she remarked recently that she would obliterate Iran. But tonight's remarks about RFK and assassination is the last straw. Her campaign staff has blantantly said that they hope for the perfect storm and that the wheels would fall off the Obama's campaign wagon. A gaff. A horrible skeleton in his closet. Or perhaps assassination? Oh, no. She never directly implied that. But by mentioning the word, she has opened the door to evil. What would it take for Hillary to win the nomination? Anything and everything. If the Devil himself offered the opportunity she would take it. For Clinton, it's all about winning. And to sate her giant ego. After tonight, in the cold hard light of truth, she has become very ugly. A reminder to the world that this Nation has not, and may not change for the better. Hubris and arrogance. Intollerance and ignorance. That is America.

[Paula TX]

Statement from Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton issued the following statement today in Brandon, SD:
"Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June.

That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys' have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."

Transcript from the Argus-Leader's editorial board meeting:
HRC: People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.

Q: Why?
HRC: I don't know. I don't know. I find it curious. Because it is unprecedented in history. I don’t understand it. Between my opponent and his camp and some in the media there has been this urgency to end this. And historically, that makes no sense. So I find it a bit of a mystery.

Q: So you don't buy the party unity argument?
HRC: I don’t because again I've been around long enough. My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? ***We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it. There's lots of speculation about why it is.****

Q: What is your speculation?
HRC: I don't know. I find it curious. And I don't want to attribute motives or strategies to people because I don't really know, but it's a historical curiosity to me.

Statement from the Argus Leader

The Argus Leader’s Executive Editor Randell Beck issued the following statement today:

"The context of the question and answer with Sen. Clinton was whether her continued candidacy jeopardized party unity this close to the Democratic convention. Her reference to Mr. Kennedy's assassination appeared to focus on the timeline of his primary candidacy and not the assassination itself."

There you have it! People wake-up! Stop acting like an "i-robot", automatically excepting every single word the media programs into your little bitty brains about any of the candidates. obama is popular today, because of the "rock star" image painted by the media. That's there power over you…gees!

I bet there isn't a single person in this blog that understands why the media supports obama today, that they will turn on him during the general election; what's at stake with the FCC; the major media outlets, and why it's important to have a republican back in office.

So, as we squabble among democratic-selves, the media, shaper of opinions and minds, makes you believe that the best candidate for the presidency is the one with the least amount of expertise and experience. The "Media", "the Great King Maker", sold you a bag of goods on George Bush for the last two (2) elections (look where that's gotten us)…and they're doing it all over again in 2008 with obama for now. Well, that's so John McCain will have a less formidable opponent this fall.

Yes, God Bless America! The land of "flip-floppers", backstabbers, and manipulators (well that is why "Survivor", "Big Brother", etc. are so popular); where it's ok for one group of people (my people) to be racist and vote for a man based strictly on his color and his motivating "star-like" qualities (sic); and where it's ok to hate a woman because of an ugly picture painted by a male dominated misogynistic media.

Yes, God Bless this country…a country where it's ok to call this woman, a US Senator, a mother, a daughter, a wife, a former First Lady, a servant of people, a "B**CH" during prime time on national TV (CNN) and in the NY Times and no one says a word.

Well, unlike Michelle, because she has rephrased that slip of the tongue on the first time she became a proud American, I am ashamed of this country!

We Need HIS BLESSINGS more than ever. We also need to pray for ourselves to heal this great divide.

[Tomm Thorsen]

If you watch the video (with more footage included to be fair) she is very alert, energetic and CLEAR about what she is saying all up to the point where she speaks of the assassination. It is this point when she averts her eyes, lowers her shoulders, speaks without focus, and has nothing to say. She is caught. Speaking what she feels, but realizing she has said too much. You can see it in her poise and her body language.

Search for video v=E0QAewVrR28 on Youtube to see it

Saying it at least brings what she is thinking out into the open. It only proves her reasons for staying in the race are of another variety entirely. I guess the guilt finally squeezed it out of her.

Or could it be she is trying to sabotage and split the Democratic Party in hopes that she can run independently, and try to split America.

When someone wants to win as bad as that, do they really deserve the position? It is supposed to be about the country, not her.

[melissa]

She hasn't apologized to the right person yet. I'm guessing she's not going to. Her "apology" was pretty lame to begin with.

[John B Sheffield]

Hillary is just becoming a disaster, another day, another serious error of judgement, it seems she too often opens her mouth without thinking! is this the behavior of someone running for the Highest Office in Our Country?

This morning TV viewers in the UK and Europe woke to see the video of Hillary on every major channel, what message does this send out?

Hillary is becoming an embarrassment to her family, Our Country, her Party and herself! - it is well past time she stood aside, but first issue a Proper Apology to the Kennedy and Obama Families!

[DaveT]

Clinton supporters are the saddest people. Their hatred for Obama is clear. And their excuses are childish. The claim that Obama is playing the race card. Nothing of the sort. Hillary has. By openly embracing uneducated, rural white America and their outright bigotry. Clinton supporters childishly say that they would rather vote for McCain than Obama. What kind of Democrat is that? What kind of American is that? To support a candidate that calls for a 100 years of American occupation in Iraq. A candidate who's domestic policy is a mirror image of GW Bush. A candidate that reinforces the status quo rather than hope and change. How foolish is that? How childish. How racist. And that what it really boils down. Is America ready for a non-white President. Not according to Clinton supporters. And now Clinton raises the specter of assassination with her comment on RFK. A gaff? Yes. But a horrible, unspeakable one. What would it take to keep a black man out of the White House. Who knows now. A vote for McCain I suppose. And that's being responsible? Logical? There are detractors and enemies for all the nominees. Are we open to "offing" any one of them? There is enough hatred in this world. And plenty of it right here in our own neighborhood. Are these nominees the best America can offer? Yes. Because we voted them there. Bozos. Clowns. Plenty of name calling. Pundits abound. There's no perfect candidate. No super hero to save us all. But because this a nation governed by democracy, life here is judged on a bell curve. And all that is bad about our country– xenophobia, jingoism, racial bigotry, ignorance, poverty, crime and corruption are all factored in. And somehow, being highly educated and racially tolerant is considered elitist speaks volumes how mediocre this country is. We can't stand tall as a Nation because we have no legs to stand on. We are our worst enemy. We deserve what we get. We deserve to fail. We accept failure. Yet we complain of failure. Clinton supporters: please vote for McCain. And confirm your affirmation that "change and hope" are empty words. And that hatred and intolerance are endemic.

[Dr. Jesse Kally-Williams]

Americans, wake up! Here I am far away in the Swiss Alps. Yet I told my wife several weeks ago that Clinton is still in the race, contrary to the general views of the American media and her supporters, not because she hopes that Florida can change things, but because SHE IS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY (SOME "WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICAN") WILL ASSISSANATE OBAMA! Wake up! Abraham Lincoln, the greatest American president ever, John Kennedy, Rev. Dr. Martin Luther-King, Robert Kennedy and many more were gunned down by Assassin’s bullet! I told my wife some months ago, now the demons in her have revealed clearly the feelings she has been harbouring since February! No, THIS APOLOGY WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED. Edward Kennedy is presently fighting to survive, and this is your gift! Clinton has not only joined Karl Rove, she has also joined Huckabee, praying in her heart for an assassin’s bullet to move. By God's grace, nobody will kill Obama. Hilary Clinton has killed herself politically forever. There is no political resurrection for this woman. No! Her female supporters must search for a better and nobler female model – there are many in American politics (Pelosi, Sebelius and many others). HILARY CLINTON IS NOT ONE OF THEM!

[Patrick]

She could have referenced the long primary in 1968 by year without mentioning assasination. She could have also mentioned the years of other lengthy primaries or even a couple of brokered conventions.

It seems her choice was to plant a little germ of fear and uncertainty. And mention her sainted husband, who as noted above had tied the nomination down by April although technically he needed the delegates from additional primaries. Much as Obama tied this nomination down a couple months ago with his delegate run of the unimportant states, but must play this hand out.

I have never heard her apologize for anything, although she admits having mispoke and being misunderstood. She intentionally made a gambit and it backfired. The real issue is and always has been her lack of character and determination to win at all cost..

[Gary]

After actually hearing the audio of her making the statement, it does sound like she really meant it in historical context and not as a veiled threat or wish, although one has to wonder on the issue of her judgment. But to me the more stunning thing is that with all of the immediate outrage and the immediate public interpretation that it WAS a veiled threat, that her campaign people were either too clueless or intentionally did not have her apologize to Obama or acknowledge that the remark could have been misinterpreted that way, but focused instead on the Kennedys. This compounds the problem. It reinforces the notion that she (and her media people) don't even understand what was wrong with the statement.

[frenchreader]

She was mispelling (i.e. lying) about being under fire in Bosnia. She just confessed she has no chance of winning the nomination unless the not as electable candidate as she pretends to be is, understated because of race in the country of Mr Limbaugh, is assassinated preferably not too late, i.e. in June for exemple.

[Larry]

Stick a fork in her. She's done.

[Olaf]

Its curious nobody has commented on HRC's remark My that her husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June.

Because its plainly wrong - Bill Clinton effectively wrapped up the nomination as early as in April that year.

[Steve Wimer]

Clinton blurts out stupid things sometimes. She's right, though. I wouldn't be surprised if the far right had Obama shot.

[Sharon Toji]

Three panelists on CNN lsst night all said what was true: If you listened to the comment and to the earlier comment, you could easily tell that Hillary Clinton meant only to make a historical allusion to the fact that campaigns, including the historic campaign of Robert Kennedy, had gone into June. They said she had absoluteoly nothing to gain by meaning anything else, and as a savvy politician, would not deliberately make a comment where she had nothing to gain and everything to lose. They all said, including Edwards former campaign manager, that at this stage of a campaign everyone is so exhausted and sleep deprived that these kinds of verbal gaffes are alomost a given. They also mentioned how stricken she appeared during her apology.

As far as I know, the subject of Barack Obama's possible assassination has been chiefly raised by one group, and that is African Americans. During the early part of the campaign, many gave their reason for not supporting him as a fear that he would be assassinated. He had Secret Service protection earlier than any other candidate (other than perhaps Clinton, who probably may still have it as a former first lady -- I'm not sure about that.)

However, I don't believe that Hillary Clinton meant to imply that Obama could be assassinated and that she was waiting out that possibility. I think she was clearly saying that campaigns go to June, and mentioned Kennedy's campaign because Americans would surely remember that it went to June because of his assassination. I doubt that otherwise, most people would remember how late various campaigns went.

When I hear comments and misstatements, I like to hear or read the whole thing, and get some context. Anyone who read the earlier Time Magazine comments and got this mistaken notion from it is deliberately smearing Hillary Clinton, and I fail to see how the fact that she has used the same historical reference twice to make her point somehow makes it evil.

Hillary Clinton is staying in the campaign for many reasons. Undoubtedly she is an ambitious woman, just as Barack Obama is an ambitious man. However, I am quite sure that she is also aware that she carries the hopes of many older women (and some younger ones, who have an awareness of history, as well) for a woman president. There are many people who do not want to give up the dream of a woman president, just as there are many African Americans who would not want to give up the dream of an African American president.

And, I think that Hillary Clinton really thinks that she would make a better president than Obama -- and many people share that belief as well. I happen to thank that women and men are different and would lead differently, and that we need what a woman would bring to the office. It's long overdue. I think that Obama should have campaigned for the second spot on the ticket, knowing that he would go on to the presidency in 8 years, still a young man, with a much higher comfort levl on the part of the electorate about his name, his history, and his ethnic background. Now, I am very worried that racists will emerge at the polls, as well as people who are determined to call him a Muslim. I say this as the mother of four children with his exact same ethnic background who well understands the racist nature of this country, both hidden and overt.

I also know that our chance for a woman president will be unlikely to come again for many years. As always, a woman has to try twice as hard, be twice as good, be twice as well known to achieve anything. When will another woman candidate have Hillary Clinton's name recognition? When will another woman have the money raising power? Yes, there are some women governors who can list governing experience and accomplishments, but most people have never heard their names. Only Hillary Clinton came to the campaign with enough of a head start to come close. There is no one else on the horizon.

Sharon Toji

[Tobias]

Even more than by the poisonous speak by HRC I'm stunned by what some supposed HRC supporters are posting here.

Luckily, these fake and possibly paid bloggers here (males posing as women, McBushites posing at HRC or OB supporters) will also have only one vote in November. And luckily the 8 years of Bush fooling us with his rhetoric have taught the electorate a thing or two... we are not as dumb anymore.

[Victor]

This was no gaffe, and anyone who believes it to be so is incredibly nieve. She knows exactly what she is doing, and why she is doing it. She is practically wishing for the unspeakable so that she can get the nomination. Absolutely despicable. She's a disgrace to the human race. Anyone that continues to support her she take a very close look at their reasons why.

[EddyUdi]

to Annie

'This latest action by Obama was the LAST STRAW ....

I will NO LONGER be able to Vote for Obama'

you now blame obama for her nauseating and shocking remarks i believe her seed planting is for people like you

if you were intelligent... got help obama

[frank carter]

(Hillary Clinton apologizes to Kennedys)

Havens knows what this lady is thinking about to make such a stupid remark.....like always she is shoveling horse manure and calling it sugar!
I don't want her to quit the race, we want her to stay to the bitter end, in the words of her husband..we feel your pain Ms. Clinton

[frank carter]

A gentleman should show Ms. Clinton out the door, if she refuses to go then push her out like a gentleman!

[Cath]

It is clear to see Hillary is welcoming the assassination of Obama which many people are fearing. This woman is extremely evil and selfish. I am a republican and I thing all you democrats are just the same especially the blindfolded ones who still support her. THIS IS SICK.

[nancie]

"As far as I know, the subject of Barack Obama's possible assassination has been chiefly raised by one group, and that is African Americans."
(and several other comments along these lines...)

as an ardent and long-time "card-carrying feminist" i resent the hell out of being consistently dissed by women Clinton supporters when i use my own mind, invoke my own perspectives, reference my own values, and come to my own conclusions... like we feminists have been encouraging women to do for all these years.

whether their is more sexism or racism in this race, in the media, or in the country i don't know. (both need to be honestly addressed.) but i do know that my opinions (feminist by nature of the fact that i have been one for decades), have been repeatedly dismissed... and the sexism i feel most personally has been perpetrated in the name of voting for the first women president.

it isn't the Barak's supporters i hear dismiss my opinion -- just the women i have marched with, held signs with, organized with. it makes me very very sad.

[thisyearademocrat]

I find it ironic that this comment was made as a response to the question "Why are they calling for you to get out of the race?" Her response is "I don't know" and then this bit about RFK? REALLY?! She DOESN"T KNOW! Forget the fact that it eluded to the death of Obama! What about how distasteful it was after Kennedy's health announcement this week?
After Clinton's reckless statement sabout obliterating Iran, I was very scared to vote for Clinton, and felt she would not be ready on "day one". I understand gaffes are made, but these issues are too serious. I am a white, older woman and am tired of sexism being used as the reason pundits and media are calling for Clinton to be ousted. These comments are the reason I want her out. I want her out. I want to a Democrat to win the White House this year, and I believe she is making it more difficult for voters to feel confident in voting Democrat. P.S. I think her "apology" was pathetic!

[David]

The post below was someone's response to another article, but I believe it puts this all into proper perspective:

Hillary: I think that now that summer has arrived my campaign will thrive. You know summer, when the trees are all leafy. You know trees, like what you hand nooses from.

Oh, you hypesensitive, elite Obama people and biased media! What are you reading into my words this time!!!! I was clearly just talking about trees!!!!

I if anyone is offended, especially the Arbor Day foundation, who I admire greatly, I deeply regret that.

— Posted by tom0063

[barbara]

it truly amazes me, that in the process of politics as we have seen it over this primary season, how all of us interpret and react to news reports on the candidates based on our own bias. we have all lost any objectivity- having said that, it is so absolutely ridiculous to insinuate that clinton's assassination comment is some cooked up strategy of the obama campaign- race baiting? OMG?????
she is a desperate person who has done much to diminish the cause of women's rights in america. she not only has failed to run an above board campaign, she refuses to accept any personally responsibility. no one takes her seriously anymore and because of her, her female political constituents will have to work that much harder all over again to shatter that glass ceiling. thanks a lot hillary.

[Gizella]

California held its primary in February - why is she still talking about the "old" days when the primaries lasted so much longer. She lost this thing a long time ago and is trying to justify her staying in (and collecting more money).

She's a true spoiler.

Did you notice how, when Ted Kennedy's diagnosis was made public, she talked about all the work he did that SHE supported? She doesn't stop to seek the silver (for her) liniing in everything,

Coujldn't stand her or Bill - and that was before Barack came on the scene.

[J. Murphy]

I'll try to dwell for a moment on the good news here: the process worked. The candidate for whom, a year a go, nearly all Democrats assumed they would be voting, has, in the course of the nomination process, revealed herself to be stunningly politically, and perhaps generally, incompetent (blowing a nomination for which she possessed every conceivable advantage), astonishingly out of step with the moral center of her party (actively playing on lowest-common-denominator racism in her campaign), and, with this latest set of remarks, perhaps dangerously deranged as well.

Really: the system worked. A person once on the fast track to the White House and with her party's entire power structure behind her was weeded out of the process by being challenged by a relative newcomer with a largely grassroots movement.

What if Obama hadn't come along? What if we had just blindly passed such a dangerous demagogue on to the nomination or even the White House? It's now up to the people of New York to decide whether they want to endure the embarrassment of having Clinton as their Senator. I sure wouldn't.

We can all really breathe a sigh of relief here. And if Clinton supporters want to desert to McCain, well, all we can do is shrug sadly. Better even to lose with some honor and dignity, and to save the soul of our party, than to have someone so alarmingly amoral in serious contention for the highest office in the land.

[Murdock]

Hillary has always had a history of putting her foot in her mouth, even back to the Clinton presidency days. She's too spontaneous and over reactive. Is this somebody anybody would want in the presidency? Put your foot in your mouth, offend world leaders and then apologize, saying you were misquoted or you "mis-spoke." She's mis-spoken her entire political career. Remember the right-wing conspiracy statement? Give us a break.

[editrix]

Hillary owes an apology to the Obama family, as well as the rest of the nation. Her half-witted after-the-fact explanation, or whatever that was, addressed to the Kennedys was in no way adequate. Her lack of sensitivity to the brutality of her evoking one of the most tragic, violent legacies in American political history is absolutely an indication of her not being ready on day one--or any other day, either.

[bob]

Her assassination gaffe is one thing. The bigger problem is her lame apology, if you can even call it that. She has still not apologized to Obama, his wife and his children for discussing the possibility of his assassination in the campaign trail.

[Robert Olson, M.D.]

Sorry Hillary your Obama/RFK assassination comments exclude you from VP. Obama's only 2 criteria for VP: 1. someone(and their cronies) that do not gain by Obama's dying in office, and 2. qualified to be President


What killed Camelot? In times of great hope? Times to great promise? What went wrong?

How could the death of one man so drastically change the direction of an entire nation? Change American leadership? American politics? American history? World history? Just by the death of one man? The death of Camelot? Did JFK get his first 100 days? Will Obama get his first 100 days?

Brokered Democratic Convention? Powerful sheer forces?. Huge money interests? To be gained or lost? Conflict of cronies?
2 strong-willed strongly backed political leaders. Conflicted politics? Conflicted backers?

What set in motion the death of Camelot? Brokered Democratic Convention? Political expediency? Do political compromises have consequences?

2 leaders with different strong-willed backers? Different moneyed agendas? Different motivated cronies? Different money interests? Different powerful cronies with different goals?

What went wrong? What killed Camelot? Why? What set in motion the death of Camelot? Who had the most to gain in killing Camelot? What cronies had the most to gain? Huge dollars at stake. At risk?

How could the death of one person change the course of a nation? Change a world of hope and promise of great peace and freedom, into a world clouded by war, destruction and death? At what cost?

Yes 2 strong leaders. Sheer forces inside the White House? Different allegiances? Different goals?

One an idealist, briefly filling a divided hurting world with hope. Of a better days ahead? More united? More free? Did JFK get more than his first 100 days?

The other a pragmatist. The consummate politician. An opportunist? Strongly supported by power interests? Money interests.? Military profits? Controlled by cronyism as real as a Texas longhorn? The military industrial complex? Huge money to be gained? To be lost?

Yes sheer forces? Inside our White House. Were they set in motion at a brokered Democratic Convention? Deal making? Behind closed doors? Big league dealing? What was gained? What was lost?

Could a brokered Democratic Convention, be the ultimate destruction of Camelot? Impossible?

Robert Olson, M.D.