A few reasons why Hillary Clinton still runs

If you're wondering why Hillary Clinton hasn't packed it in yet and ceded the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, we stumbled across a few reasons Thursday night as we hovered outside two Clinton fund-raisers here in the L.A. area.

Technically, there's still a chance she can win the nomination, though the odds aren't likely to draw many bets. But as we've seen over the last 15 years or so of Clintons in the national spotlight, they tend not to quit. And Clinton's grassroots supporters don't want her to quit, at least not yet, for reasons that have less to do with political maneuvering than with history and glass ceilings and pay disparity and being dismissed with a single "sweetie."

"I run a small business and we wouldn't still be here except that I'm stubborn, and she's stubborn," Pat Schilling of Irvine said in a hallway of Newport Beach's posh Balboa Bay Club & Resort, moments after Clinton finished speaking. "I can really identify with what she's saying. Women are so used to being told, 'No, you can't do that.' Sometimes it just takes the strength to keep doing it." And no, Schilling said, the people inside the private, $250-minimum gathering weren't getting frustrated with Clinton's campaign. "That's why we're here," Schilling said. "We're paying for the next round. We want to be heard from. She speaks for me, and I've never had a president speak for me before."

And Clinton gave no hint that she was considering giving up. "She gave the analogy of the Lakers," said Stacy Brower of Newport Beach. "You're not going to get up and leave [a game] with two minutes left, are you?" 

Later, at the Hyatt Regency Century Plaza, Clinton made it clear she's staying in the race through the end of the primary season early next month -- and perhaps through the Democratic National Convention in August. "There’s something to be said for going the distance," Clinton could be heard telling the private gathering. Noting that other nomination fights have ...

... lasted to the convention, she gave a revved-up version of her familiar case for why she, rather than Obama, ought to be the Democratic nominee, based on large states won and electability in crucial general election swing states.

Both speeches were upbeat, high-energy affairs, tinged with optimism and no hints of resignation, according to people in the rooms. There were also no hints of the recent setbacks, such as the flow of crucial superdelegates to Obama, and endorsements for him by John Edwards and NARAL Pro-Choice America.

"None of that was part of the message tonight," said Elena Ong, a co-chair of the Century Plaza event and treasurer of the California Democratic Party. "There was tremendous passion and energy." Orly Halevy, a photography business owner, said it didn't sound to her like Clinton was ready to quit. "She believes that she’s the right candidate, that it’s not over yet."

Back in Newport Beach,  Julia Rappaport wasn't ready for Clinton to quit either. "She'll do great," Rappaport said as she hurried off to try to beat the crush at the valet-parking stand. "We haven't counted every vote yet."

-- Scott Martelle and Stuart Silverstein

Photo by Robyn Beck / AFP/Getty Images

Comments

[katherine]

With Obama's running list: Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Auchi, Robert Blackwell of Killerspin (as reported here at the LA Times), Bittergate, not to mention his advisers on NAFTA (adviser "misrepresented" his policy in Canada), the Mid-East (adviser admitted to meeting with Hamas) , why would ANYONE quit who is running against him in a close race? He may seem like an inevitability, but so did Clinton. This is politics. Things change all the time.

[D Major]

Clinton is STUBBORN!??

We do NOT need a female George Bush just now, thank you!

I would love to vote for an Honest female candidate, not one who makes up sniper stories to embellish her chequered past.

[Mimi]

No one wants Hillary to quit- except maybe Obama and of course the MEDIA.
I am so happy she is not listening. People should be thanking her for not giving up but instead they make it into some desperate plea.

WAKE UP she should be the nominee and not Obama she would fight every single day for all of you because she loves and cares about this country and everyone in it.

[gaypastor]

I want a candidate who cares about fighting all kinds of "isms" and forms of discrimination. All Obama, and his people, do is play the "race" card.

Hillary for '08. Democrat or Independent I'm voting for her!

[Mimi]

The NARALwill never get another penny from me. They can have Obama OK SWEETIE.

[toby]

I say, FIGHT ON.

What's the big deal? I mean, is every SO SURE that it isn't sexism? Why every guy (the two old dudes here too) aren't giving into your sexist beliefs?

Seriously? I'm having a hard time believe you guys (especially the two old dudes here).

[Mimi]

As far as John Edwards supporting Obama who cares anyway- him and his $400.00 hair cut. Mr. wonderful finally gives his support do you think maybe this could be just a little self serving?

[chrisc]

They clearly have not been to a Lakers game or else she would know and all her supporters would know fans leave early all the time when there is no question as to who is going to win the game. This is what happens when people use analogies to pander to a audience without understanding the subject.

[Audacity]

I think Clinton should stay in the race considering the fact that Obama's is now being exposed. Just take a look at:

Http://www.AudacityOfHypocrisy.com and
Http://www.AudacityOfdeception.com

There are a lot of skeletons in Obama's closet. Republican party will definitely have a field day on Obama. I hope it is not too late for the democratic leaders to wise up before they rally round Obama.

[T. Barr]

Hillary should be the top of the ticket, not second!! She's more worthy! She's a wonderful role model and a great example for anyone who has been beaten down, tromped on, and let down by friends and colleagues! She's kept her composure and dignity! That's the real test of a leader, not some new, cute, fickle kid on the block!!!!!!!!!

[Indy Pendent]

Of the three remaining candidates, I prefer Obama. Each candidate has some weaknesses and quite a few strong points.

I see absolutely no reason for Sen. Clinton to exit the competition at this point. She and Sen. Obama share
a voting record that is nearly the same, and most of their
proposals are similar. Both are substantially better than
McCain, with his advocacy of years more of the pointless Iraq war.

Both Clinton and Obama would name competent
people to the Supreme Court. Both can and should continue to tell the voters what a disaster Bush has been at home and abroad.

While she is not the candidate I most favor, I'm all for her
continued campaign.

[Hillary Should Resign]

Sorry Katherine, but as you point out in you fantasy list, if these are issues with Barack, why is he winning. Really, do you honestly think that Wolfson, Den, Stiller, Icks et al, if they had ANY dirt, any information on these so called issues, that they wouldn't have raised them now? While she is one the very edge of losing? The simple truth Katherine is that they don't. You and I both know that her surrogates would have leaked any damaging information already. It would have been done before NC and Indiana. And, you know that is true. She has lost this nomination because of very bad managerial and marketing processes and decision by he staff, and ultimately, by herself. The comment that this is a close race, well you know that's not true as well. Reality dictates otherwise. She, again, failed to plan for anything after 5 February, disregarded the small states, and hasn't made up for those errors.

[treetracker]

I am a 57 yo white woman. I would support Hillary if she wins this nomination. But I want to remind everyone that at no time in political history has the party who has taken a nomination fight to the convention has ever won the Presidency...neither Repbulican or Democrat. However this ends up, the Democratic nominee MUST be supported at all costs - McSame is NOT who we want for President in this country under ANY circumstances. His votes confirm he is willing to support torture, his votes confirm he is not willing to support the troops by updating the GI bill. His flip flops on everything - courting the evangelical right who he had previously disavowed, willingness to talk to Hamas, now he's not - and he critizes Obama - what a hypocrite! Now wanting the tax cuts permanent when he didn't want it before. On and on. His "dream" speech yesterday was a joke. 3 Supremes will be retiring in the next 4 years and he has vowed to replace them with conservative judges. His health care plan is a joke, his education plan is even dumber. He simply cannot be President. Don't sit this out - vote for the Dem regardless of who it is.

[Juan]

If you have debts for $21 MILLIONS, I have to work hard to pay back. This shows how responsible Hillary and Bill are!

[Chanaine]

I think Clinton should stay on this race until the end. People want her to drop out because they simply dont like her personally, politically she would be a lot better than Obama.

[Linda]

I have a challenge for all Obamanites. I vote you let Barak and Michelle take your children to church with them every Sunday and hear Rev Wright. Evidently they thought it was good enough for their girls to be indoctrinated, why not yours? I can't think of any Church not racially integrated so it is not about race, it is about the message. As adults they had the ability to 'weed' out the racist hatred he spewed, but how about the kids? It will live with them a life time. These two are not responsible enough to be White House role models for American families and children. So go ahead, get your kids their Sunday best on. The Obama's are on their way.

[Andrew Austin]

She's not running only on political ambition. She's running for the sake of the country. Obama will be a disaster and she knows this. She has to stay in until the end in case people come to their senses.

[Give it Up Already]

This is not brain surgery, she is continueing to run to try and force the Democrats to put heat on Obama to make her his running mate. She wants back into the White House so bad that she will do or say anything to get back in. Also, with all the fund raising she continues to do, who gets the money that is left over after she drops out - think about it!!!

[Dr. Jesse Kally-Williams]

Sadly, the authors of some of these comments have lost touch with political reality. Do these Democratic supporters prepared to face anoth Bush's four term? Ala, that is the problem of ideological veil. Mere ideology can block people's reasoning power. The crucial problem is not about Obama versus Clinton: it is about the Democratic Party versus the Republican Party. These Democratics must do some hard thinking.

[So tired of her]

How disingenuous of her, using women who've faced real discrimination as an excuse for her entitled, now delusional, power grab run. She thinks she owns the White House, she's a Clinton after all, and she "will demonize anyone who gets in our way" (her words, according to a former aide). This glass ceiling stuff is just her using people - in this case women - all over again.

I wish people were more clued in about this woman. They check in on politics for a few months every four years and then register their support based on a sliver of info: "She's a woman? Oh, she must represent me!"

[Roy Tech]

Go Hillary! I think BO is not an honest man. I cannot accept Barack Obama if he could not confirm that he didn't use drug in 1999 when he was 38. I think his moral standard is not suitable to be my president. I cannot explain to my kid why it is ok to use drugs and be so proud of it. His "not so serious" attatitude is the most dangerous for this country. He is not an option. Period.
McCain is actually at least a war hero with integrity.

[Madison]

WHO PAYS FOR HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN DEBT? HER SUPPORTERS? SHE NEEDS TO BOW OUT GRACEFULLY! ENOUGH ALREADY!
OBAMA 08!

[George]

Discretion is the better part of valor. Knowing when to quit is a hugely important trait in a leader; Japan and Germany refusing to quit was pointless and cost so many lives, resulting in countless widows, widowers, orphans, and dead children. Bush refusing to quit in Iraq has cost us barely conceivable amounts of money and some of our most valiant young people. Hillary not knowing when to quit because she doesn't want to be told "no" is pug-headed and stupid. Be smart, have discretion, and have the bravery to quit when your quest results in harm instead of good.

[Jerome Ware]

What you have to remember is that she is on a free ride and everyone who works for her is also on a free ride paid for by taxpayers and those she is trying to manipulate.

She is stirring around like everything is decided like what type of brand to buy or I'll be your friend. If anyone can remember she was all the evil mastermining of the 8 years of Bill's trip to Washington, She is connected to the Warren commision and has spent her life in the political system. Remeber how much money they have made since they got out of the Whitehouse and they were given a Mansion in New York so the Die Hard fools would just vote her in to office just because, she has done nothing and will do nothing except a FREE Ride as a Victim of Bill but I think He was the Victim of Her.

[brandie wilson]

Hey, if Hillary wants to continue the race then by all means let her. She's already $20 million in debt. Let her blow another $20 million. This campaign is not about gender. It is about who the person really is and what they represent. That is why I'm voting for Obama. As for Hillary, all I can say is ... defeated by your own party ... that's gotta hurt!

[Fran Taylor]

Maybe Hillary doesn't understand math? She can't balance her campaign's budget, she doesn't understand what economists do, and she cannot see from the delegate counts that she cannot win.

I say she just doesn't understand math.

When your opponent needs 124 to win and you need 309 to win, it is NOT CLOSE and it is time to bow out.

And if she let Bill off the hook for his transgressions, do you really think she is going to stop her administration from running amok?

[HC]

Ms Rodham has promised to "totally obliterate" Iran if it attacks Iran. That is 66 million men, women, and children she has vowed to murder in her genocide.
She would kill about 30 times as many people as the Turks killed in the Armenian genocide.
She would kill 4.4 times as many people as died in WW I.
She would kill ten times as many people as the Germans under Hitler killed Jews, Gypsies, and Gay people.
She would kill three times as many people as the 20 million that died under Stalin.
She would kill twice as many people as died under Mao between 1949 and 1975.
She would kill 11 million more people than the 55 million that died in WW II.
She would destroy the most important agricultural and manufacturing base in the region.
She would bankrupt our economy paying for the biggest bombing campaign in history.
The problem isn't with Obama calling a reporter a sweetie. The problem is that people have not learned the historical lessons, and they will still vote for a monster that advocates genocide.
Obama has said he will engage in discussions and diplomacy. I think that is a better approach than promising the mass murder of 66 million people. She got us into one illegal war with her vote, you better believe she will get us into another one.

[wayne duarte]

How can a everyone ignore the lies Hillary told about bullets flying over her and her daughters head??! It's unreal! She couldn't even take care of her husband, how can she possibly take care of a country?!

[Max S.]

Go for it, Hillary. Do not listen to the BS that the media and Obama are trying to throw to you. They want you to quit because they know full well that Obama could not have taken you heads-on, and want you to buckle. Obama is a weak candidate, and he won't stand any close scrutiny. Even if Obama gets all the Edwards vote, he's still behind you on the Dem core votes that we would need to win in Nov.

So, don't quit. Keep it up. I'm going to send another donation your way.

[TheMist]

PLEASE STOP BEING "MEDIA FED"" AND DO YOUR FREAKIN RESEARCH. LISTEN & PLEASE PAY ATTENTION (ASSUMING YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR DREAMS AND THE FUTURE OF YOUR CHILDREN'S DESTINIES.) Howard Wolfson is Hillary Clinton's Communications Director K? Mr. Wolfson is A PARTNER (not employee) with the Glover Park Group. THIS GROUP profits MILLIONS from Lobbyists that HIRE THEM To Advocate FOR BILLS THAT STRENGTHEN THE Credit Card Predators, THE Mortgage Lending Predators, INTERNATIONAL TRADING PROFITS, Global Warming PROFITS, the list Goes on on on on & ON? MY GOOD GOD, OPEN YOUR EYES AND DO YOUR RESEARCH. THERE'S A VERY VERY SERIOUS SUPER POWER IN THE United States THAT'S GOT THEMSELVES SO TANGLED UP INTERNATIONALY THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO FIND THEIR WAY BACK TO THEMSELVES.

On a "side note" if the Clinton Campaign wants to throw out so many questions about Obama's Camp, why don't they "question" why they're Adviser Mr. Sidney likes to endanger the lives of ALL AMERICANS BY DRIVING DRUNK (oh actually, it's an AGGRAVATED DUI BECAUSE HE WAS SPEEDING TOO.

COPY/PASTE
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/389355365/-1/news

I JUST TRY TO KEEP MYSELF INFORMED ON THE TRUTH
PLEASE FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, DO THE SAME.

[Jason]

Other than Clinton supporters saying so, Hillary is not a better leader, as evident by her documneted lies, poor policies, and poor campaign management. The fracture of the Democrats is entirely cause by here failure to conceed, which she should have done gracefully, when the match proved she cannot win. You all know this and to deny it is quite pathetic. Obama is winning for a reason, and that reason is he has no major flaws that anyone cares about. The race issue is not an Obama weakness, it is an American dysfuction, and you should be ashamed to say "Hillary gets the wgite vote" We should not be making accomodationd for racism just to win the Presidency. Obama had class and intelligence and was raised likle the rest of us....that is why we love him, support hi, and CONTINUE to give him money. You old-school politics are OVEr and dead. The new school is in...time to get educated.....

[Larry]

I'm a father of two daughters and I would love to see them grow up thinking that a woman can be president after 2 century's of male presidents. Aren't women 50% of the US population?

[Bob Zimerman]

While the positions of Hillary and Barack may be similar, what they will do once elected is more to the point.

Barack means what he says. Hillary is a NAFTA-loving Republican who mouths progressive positions with the intent of scuttling them once in office, just as she did with health care.

[john]

Ever since her ""how do you do it?crying act" I've been disgusted by her. Pat Oliphant has her pegged perfectly.I wish she would evaporate.

[Oh, come on...]

If she were running any other race, I'd say, yeah, stay in it until you win it. But this is not about her personal fulfillment. This is not about gender parity (wanna talk about race parity? No? Why?). This is about my freakin' country, people. This contest is too important to be determined by ego.

You want sports metaphors? Suppose your team (you pick the sport) is coming to the end of a losing season. Yes, they played in front of bigger houses in bigger cities; the games they won were by wide point spreads; the losses were squeakers but there were more of them. Now they're saying, "No, our season should hinge on THIS game." They lose the game. "No, the season should be determined by THIS game." Where does it end?

Clinton should look up the word 'mensch.'

[Jason Wertz]

YOu people are clueless. Get the facts right. Obama '08 .....It is sad that all your pathetic people are really bad at hiding your racism. YOu make Obama into some demon who had done less than any candidta you have ever voted for. On top of that, he is honest. Bush and Clinton both lied about drug use and you clowns elect them twice. Obama is honest and you say you won;t vote for him. Veiled RACISM at it finest. McCain's evangelical supporer makes inflammatory bigoted remasrks all the time.....but all you white racist do is focu on some black pastor. So whatm no one cares excpet you sore losers. Hillary has nothing over OBama, NOTHING...I DARE YOU to list her documneted scandals, lies and flaws. They would be 3 times as many as Obama.....You are SORE LOSERS!!!!!

Obama 08....keep lying about him, it only brings him more donations!

[JJ Gildersneeze]

As an Oregonian, I'm glad this is still going on because it means I get to participate. Every four years, we hear griping about Iowa and NH deciding the nomination. This year everybody's getting a chance and somehow that equates with chaos?

The media have upped the hyperbole so high that they now casually toss around phrases like "nuclear option" to describe a negative ad and "playing the race card" for use of the words "white" and "black" by anyone other than a news commentator.

And for what? Because people are getting to vote, and the election wasn't over by February?

If it makes you and Chris Matthews and the rest happy, this election is almost over. I'm a supporter, but here in Oregon HRC has no campaign. She's running some ads, and Bill is doing small town appearances, but they've pretty much folded the tent. Obama will have a rally in downtown Portland this Sunday, and it'll get 10,000 people, easy. Hillary snuck in and did a couple of invite-only fundraisers last week and probably won't be back.

So cool your jets, msm. You'll soon be free to do the pivot we all know is coming: from relentlessly pumping the "Obama's a saint" story to the "Obama's-an-out-of-touch dilitante" story you'll go with in the fall.

JJ

[Jason]

Hillary IS NOT a role model for my sdaughter. You must have no self-esteem to say this woman is a role model? for what? Lying and scheming and still losing? entitlement?

[HILLARY IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE USA]

OBAMA WILL BE VERY SURPRISED JUST AS THE MEDIA WHEN HILARY WINS THE RACE AND THE PRESIDENCY.
We need someone with Clintons expirience and objectivity right now obama is just too young in politics and he will be eaten by the sharks if he becomes president. and if he is not as innocent as I think then we are all screwed

[Franklin]

Hey Linda...

Yes, you're completely correct. Obviously his entire sermons must have been 'god damn america' and hatred toward whites. I mean they only came up with 2 five second clips out of all the years available, but sure... I bet they just liked those the most.

Stop making idiotic generalizations of an entire church based on 10 seconds out of years of footage. (Let alone extending those 10 seconds to be the personal beliefs of all those present.)

[Jason]

The lies people tell themselves...so sad. Note to kool-aid drinkers: Look up Hillarys gaffes. They are not "created" by anyone other than Hillary herself. SORE LOSERS!!!!!!

[dan]

roy tech; GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU TYPE. SILLY SEASON GOES ON!!!

[Michael Salino]

17 million people that have worked hard for the Democratic Party cannot be placated with a pat on the back. They are serious and will not bend with all of the false information directed at them. Obama/Kerry have divided our party, all for the wrong reasons. A vote for Obama is a sure vote for McCain. They are willing to allow McCain to win in November. We will never allow that to happen. These long time Democrats know how impossible it is to elect a supreme leftist. Leftist always fail.They know the Republicans quiver at the thought of how efficiently Hillary will correct all the Bush mistakes ensuring a Democratis win for 28 years.
Tree is patently wrong, History tells us in 1932 Roosevelt achieved his nomination at the convention. Carter beat Kennedy at the convention. Carter/Roosevelt won the election. So Hillary....we support you ,for our countries , and all the people of the world,, Take it to the convention!

[Adam]

Clearly there is an effort for the Obama campaign to claim victory - but on what???

The fact that the part is so divided only hurts him more. The fact that he and Hillary need to work together not opposed is paramount...
The concept that superdelegates will overturn the will of the people is pointless to conjecture until we get there

Let her race to the finish - let her cross the line - and if she is not the nominee then so be it - we can then back whomever we choose - but don't make an angry issue out of something that is already so volitile with both sides...

It is time to find that compassion within each of us...regardless...

Adam

[Larry the cable guy]

Despite all the rhetoric about Obama and all his so called shortcomings and skeletons in the closet they don't amount to a hill of beans, what the majority of people believe is.

The media and the other candidates are the ones that are promoting this crap.

The sign of a true leader is one who rises above the flotsam and jetsam and carries on.

What the country really needs is someone who is going rise above all the sound bites and innuendo and phony rhetoric and change the way government works, make it better, make it accountable, and most all make it representative of the people.

Senator Obama has consistently demonstrated that he is not going to be dragged into the mudslinging and phony accusations that have surround the clinton camp.

A chance for America to finally turn itself around and get back to being the true leader it was in the world.

[Jomam]

It's funny how so many try to tout Clinton as a role model, or bring up her "35 years of experience", despite the reality that she hasn't accomplished anything more than riding Bill's coattails.

Hillary isn't fighting for anyone, but herself. Anyone who believes she cares about the common people probably has fewer teeth than years of education...

[zelaphant]

I am so sick of the Obama-obsessed media. Most of them are just looking for their next story and their next pay check.....like they really care what happens to the rest of the people in this country. As I remember the media did the same hatchet job to Al Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 and we all know how that turned out. The best part of this race is that the Liberal media heads and their spokespeople are helping the cause by dissing Hillary ( as well as Bill) and then when the presidency stays in the hand of a republican they are going to try to explain it away by saying that Hillary damaging Obama. OH, Please!
I have worked for Hillary since before Super Tuesday and I continue to support her and I want her to continue until every voters has "their say." Besides, it is only the media and the political pundits who seem to have forgotten that in the past the purpose of the conventions were to elect a candidate....not have the decision made months in advance. This is a democracy....( I know technically a republic) and every citizen in every state should have a chance to vote. PERIOD!
How is Obama any different than anyone other male who has served as president? His skin is darker? An excellent communicator doesn't make a good decision maker. The Usurper! Americans are so stupid to be fool by style....what about the substance? As for the post by the person who mentioned the Bosnia flab? You really are gullible...you believe all the media spin? Guess you never forgot something in your life?
Regardless of how this race and election turns out, I will never ever trust the main stream media again! All the pundits......can go "you know where."

[ripgrip]

It's smart for her to take it to the bitter end. She surely is not delusional about her chances for the nomination being extremely low, and therefore she is likely positioning herself to keep improving her political strength as much as possible among the populace, and thus her future options:
1. She may be trying to making as strong a case as possible for the veep nomination.
2. If she does get 1. , and if Obama and she win, she is in great position for going for the pres. nomination in 2016, assuming they go 2 terms.
3. If she does or does not get 1. , and the Obama ticket loses, she can get back on the "I would have been the better pres. nominee" train and run for pres. again in 2012.
4. If she does get 1. and Obama and she win this year but lose in 2012, she can still try for the pres. nomination in 2016.
5. If she is not offered (or for some reason decides against) 1. , and Obama wins, she still may deal for Sec. of State or other high position that is a springboard or at least a stepping stone for going for the pres. or veep in the future.

I think she will stay in the race as far as she possibly can this summer in support of the above options or other options, to the point where she, Bill , and their advisors see the right place to bow out.

[Alison McKenzie]

Pretty funny that a person would NOT allow their daughter or son to date or go to any event with Oboma when he was a teenager because of his drunkiness and drugs, yet they would vote for this impaired person for the highest office in the land because Kerry/Kennedy say so.
No thank you.

[bill]

Please Hillary fans, it's time to give up and move on.She will not be the candidate no matter how much you wish it so.By continuing to carry on this charade, both Hillary and her many female fans are ensuring that the race this fall will be much closer than it should be.For once, think about the good of the country and not your own selfish needs.

[Light]

If Hilary had what it takes to win the Presidency, she'd be winning the democratic race right now. Obama was never expected to do as well as he did . People didn't even think he had a chance. But now look at him. It's time for Clinton to stop wasting money and let the best candidate win. She'd help the whole party, if she'd stop being selfish.

[tom]

Maybe she hasn't provided McCain enough sound bites and video clips of herself making Obama unelectible. How else is she going to have a shot at 2012? When she told Richardson Obama "can't be elected", that was not a statement. It was an exclamation.

[Kimmy]

Linda,

I have never seen an integrated church, but I'd be glad to send my sons and daughters to Rev. Wrights. Pity I don't live close.

Any religion is indoctrination, but at least his speaks to the message of the prophets.

If you're sick of Jeremiads, stay out of the church!

[BD]

"NO ONE" wants Hillary to quit.

Right except that MORE PEOPLE HAVE VOTED FOR OBAMA THAN HILLARY.
SO IN REALITY MORE PEOPLE WANT HER TO QUIT THAN WANT HER TO STAY IN THE RACE YOU IDIOT!

I quess we are all just stupid.
I guess all the people voting for Hillary are just suffering from short term memory loss and are forgetting Whitewater, The Rose Law Firm, Noman Hsu, Actual Weather Underground pardons, Marc Rich, Sniper Fire,
SEX SCANDALS WITH SEVERAL WOMEN AND A TOTAL DISCRACE OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.
THE CLINTONS HAVE NO SHAME!!
Failures halting the genocide in Ruwanda, After the USS COLE was attacked, Missed any kind of pre-emptive strike against Bin Laden. Nafta Agreements, 500,000 dead children as a result of our embargo against Iraq.
BlackHawk down, Bill's dealings with Canadien businessmen Kakajickastan Plutonium netting him and Hillary MILLIONS!!!
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT:
Bill Clinton became President in 1992 with only 43% of the popular vote. That’s because Bush Sr. drove conservatives away from the party by appeasing leftists during his first term, just as Bush Jr. has done during his second term, and in 1992 conservatives revolted in anger. 19% of the popular vote went to 3rd Party candidate Ross Perot, most of them protest conservatives, and Bill Clinton spent the next eight years destroying America from the Oval Office with the support of only 43% of the nation.
A reality the nation has never recovered from…
SO I GUESS AMNESIA IS THE BEST YOU COULD COME UP WITH!!

NOW WE HAVE HILLARY TO DEAL WITH.
Oh but don't worry!!
Hillary has,
Visited over 80 Countries and negotiated peace treaties.
Ducked Sniper Fire.
Has been our wonderful New York Senator with the only pretense as a stepping stone to the White House.
Says "Vote For me because more white people, HARD WORKING WHITE PEOPLE vote for me
Last October she was beating all other candidates by 20%
This was her campaign to lose and SHE, alone, lost it by NOT running an efficient campaign, arrognatly thinking she was "entitled", her endless lies, and her kitchen-sink Republican strategy that came back to bite her in the butt.

Just a few of Hillay's WHOPPERS!
• She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

ARE YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS LOBOTOMIZED!!!

I'm just a kid from Brooklyn but thank god for CHANGE.
It won't be Hillary,
I hope and pray it wont be McCain
For Better or worse I will vote OBAMA
and YOU BETTER LIVE UP TO THE HYPE BUDDY!!
Peace on Earth for ALL people.

BD

[DG]

Hillary shouldn't quit. We in Oregon deserved to be heard. We have the right as those people in Iowa to vote and be counted. We have a failed demoracy where we force candidates to quit when many of us are left behind. I am voting for Hillary because she is the best candidate with the experience to run this country. Obama is just a good speaker with charisma.

[Aaron M]

Mimi wrote: "WAKE UP she should be the nominee and not Obama she would fight every single day for all of you because she loves and cares about this country and everyone in it."

Wow, Mimi, do you think that's just a little bit of a blubbering overstatement? I certainly appreciate that many women find a hero in Hillary as a woman, but come on, you might at least pay some attention to Hill's "I'll do for you if you did for me" attitudes.

I think you might want to rub some of the rosey color off those glasses and just look at the candidates for what they are truly, not the way you do or do not idolize them. That's just the truth, Mimi, and I mean no disrespect.

[Joshua]

I am voting for John Mccain but if he loses I hope he loses to Clinton because I like her alot more than Obama and I trust her more on policy and she loves America unlike Obama and his wife.

[Manolete]

The reason why Obama is winning the democratic race is because in the early primaries all the voters who disliked Hillary's strength, demonstrated their anti-Hillary sentiment by voting for Obama, before they knew who the real Barack Hussein Obama is, and of his close relaltionships with black supremacist and extremist groups that hate America.

Now that the anti-Hillary voters know who the real Obama is, they wish they had voted for Hilary and they are no longer willing to vote for Obama in the general election if he is indeed the democratic candidate.

The reason why Hillary is getting the incredible support she's been getting in the latest primaries is because when they compare Hillary with Obama, Hillary looks like a saint. The only supporters Obama has left are blacks that vote for him for the one and only reason that he is black and the eggheads that are young, naive and idealistic.

This is why americans that still have a chance to vote in the primaries will continue to support Hillary for President of the United States for America, because they know she is the most qualified, has the most experience and most of all, because she Loves America.

Hillary for President!
or else...........John McCain.

[Jom]

Of course she is not quitting. It is all about money. HILLARY NOT QUITTING = MONEY. Every day she stays in means that supporters, rich and poor alike, scrape together more money to pay for the campaign. This will enable her to retrieve the money she lent to her campaign. Hillary is poor (never mind the personal wealth of tens of millions left). Healp the Clintons accumulate wealth. Save up your money and PLEASE GIVE HILLARY MORE MONEY NOW!

[LonghornMama]

The day the media finally succeeds in knocking the really brilliant candidate for President out of the race, there will be a quiet riot carried out by millions and millions of women across this country. Women who are fed up with being told what to do and when to do it. Women who share memories of the blue-stained dress in their own lives. This is not your usual political "they will be back" year. This is "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore." An inexperienced man with a ton of flaws is still better than a women at any cost? Look out. Here comes the quiet riot.

[Lee Larson]

AH, IT NEVER STOPS. *DO ALL OF YOU FOOLS OUT THERE STILL THINK THAT ALL OF THIS IS ON THE LEVEL? US POLITICS ARE AS HONEST AS CHARLES MANSON SAYING 'I DIDN'T DO IT!'

[happyitsarealelection]

I am glad we are still in the throws of this election process. I'm ecstatic that the democrats are still engaged in a real process instead of the inevitible anointment of the chosen one.....this is why I am a democrat!

That said....I believe that John Edwards layed low in order to swoop in and create a debt to himself that might result in the vp spot. This reeks of the regular boys club bs and is no better than any other kind of "ism"

IF Hillary does not win the nominiation, and I haven't counted her out yet, I believe she has more than EARNED the vp nod and Obama should extend that offer to her with that sentiment. It would do a lot to ensure a democrat in the whitehouse come November and that, afterall, is what the whole point is!

[TheTruth]

hillary - can't take care of her man, can't take care of our country

[kaveman]

Go Operation Chaos!! The DEMs will loose. Yes, keep going (HRC), you're being discriminated against. You're under paid. Keep going!!! We love the poly pant suit thing and the canary yellow shirts. Go Granny Go! Chaos for all you DEMs, they don't call you DIM for nothing.

[N.E. BodybutHillary]

Hillary should be campaigning for Barack Obama now that her candicacy is finished. she chooses not to. Her thoughts and concerns have nothing to do with benefiting the DNC. Stubbornness is a flawed trait when it obstructs you from achieving the goals that you and your party are working to attain. Step Up Hillary.

[CC in GA]

Now that it has been said that the nomination is out of her grip her campaign cries sexism. In my opinion this is why men don't take women seriously. When some women lose something they can't just say I lost they have to come up with an excuse. You can't try to run with the big boys then cry when you get trampled like the rest of the big boys. She needs to suck it up & stop making excuses.

I thought Hillary supporters said if Obama lost it wouldn't be because of racism so how can she lose because of sexism? If Obama can't cry racism then she can't cry sexism. How many polls have said that they wouldn't vote for Hillary just because she's a woman? Racism trumps sexism everyday. If Hillary's glass ceiling is 100 ft up then Obama's us 50 ft. or maybe because she's a white woman the sky's the limit but since he's a black man the limits the sky.

[Randy]

Message to America...

'It's over when it's over."

[sunny florida]

The DNC hasn't figured out yet that many democrats are poised to leave the "party" in droves if Obama gets the nomination. He is too inexperienced, elitist, far left and frankly lacks good judgment to lead this country in these very, very scary times. In the DNC's eyes, the voters really don't matter (see FL and MI - even though some other states moved up their primaries as well) and regard the media's support as somehowthe same as the public's support for their anointed candidate (NOT!). DNC and media push for her to end the race and every single poll shows a strong difference of opinion with the public: let it play out.
Any objective, unbiased observer will tell you the push has been on since before January to "get behind" Obama and Hillary went on to win each time they counted her out. New Hampshire, OH, TX, PA, IN, each time "this is it", and she wins. Sometimes BY HUGE margins, like in West Virginia.
I personally will NOT vote in the GE for Obama, and will write in her name instead. I can no more, in good conscience, vote for an inexperienced, racist (contrary to what he and his supporters would have you believe, the signs, words and associations are all there), politician then I could vote for a Republican. Being from FL, I am not alone in my stance that not counting my vote now, as it stands, means forget me in the GE. Good luck.
Hillary, my humble message to you is this: If the "boys club" in Washington can't take your strength, poise, intelligence and perseverance and the DNC chooses instead to nominate an inexperienced, slick, elitist politician, then PLEASE run as an Independent. Your 17 million supporters, to date, are behind you and we want YOU as our next President. Period

[Brad Edwards]

I'm sick and tired of hearing pro-Hillary people praise her vow to "see this thing to the end" and "this thing's not over." Common sense and logic should enter in here somewhere, but Clinton has deaf ears. Even if I were a Clinton supporter, she would have blown my future support with this insane refusal to see the handwriting on the wall. She doesn't know the meaning of party unity -- just the term "sore loser."

[BeerBubba]

CHURCHES WOULD BE EMPTY IF PEOPLE LEFT WHEN THE PREACHER SAID THE FIRST IRRATIONAL THING.

Let us pray that any politician found in a church is pandering to the ignorant American voters. Especially the republicans who'd preachers are *really* scary.

[unregistered user]

If there's an afterlife I would imagine Vince Foster is yucking it up right about now.

[JTomorrow]

A Black woman told me that Black men call a woman "sweetie" if they think she's ugly.

[Anne in TX]

She may want to stop using sporting analogies. Remember what happened to Eight Belles after Hillary compared herself to the filly? Sorry, Lakers!

[Dan McClain]

60% of the American people do not trust Hillary to be truthful. I guess being caught red handed in an out right lie means nothing to you supporters of hers. Oh wait, she 'mis-spoke', it wasn't a lie! Keep making excuses for 'nurse rachet' and keep voting for chromosomes, you 'Billary' supporters. One more thing. There is NO WAY this woman would have ever made it this far on her own if it were not for all the years she was President of the US of A. Oh wait...that was her alter ego that was President. My bad.
She would sell her very soul to be President. Makes me sick to see her face now. Liars do that to me.

[Don H]

Obama will wither in the glare of a general election. Then, Hillary will look pretty good to the party in 2012 when it needs somebody to put together the pieces from the debacle that is shaping up now.

[Swannie]

TOP 10 reasons Hillary is still running ..

10. Because SHE CAN
9. Wants to really really tick Michelle off before Michelle becomes too wealthy and loses touch to get it.
8. Wants to see Anderson Cooper cry (because he doesn't when the planet is in peril, just anytime Obama loses )
7. To give Campbell Brown a reason to make her nasty face in slow motion
6. Has a bet with Bill that if Keith Olberman spews chunks on air he will count them and somehow blame O'Reilly
5. Owes Anne Coulter a favor
4. It is the only way to keep Wolf Blitzer from swinging from the chandeliers in the situation room
3. To magnanimously provide Jon Stuart with some of the material he so desperately needs
2. Wants to stay in the race long enough for obama to actually hear what she said
1 Waiting to see how many other loser candidates will make their last grasp for power

[dave]

Do you think Obama would consider Romney as a Veep. We need someone to fix the economy!

[jjp]

HRC should get nominated. If the dems want to give the GOP another 4 years they will choose BHO.
Are the BHO supporters forgetting about the good economic times had during the first 2 Clinton Administration? I don't know about you but I made more money with Bill in office than with George.
Clinton over Obama anyday!!!

[lcc]

she still in it to raise money for her approximately 20 million dollar debt. That and the longer she stays in it helps McCain so that he will win the general and she can run again in 2012. And she and Bill will do little to support Obama just like they did not really support Kerry because they wanted him to loose so she could make this run. The Clintons are in it for the Clintons and no one else.

[Nick Abels]

Obama and Hillary are both the same candidates. Stop arguing over nothing - as long as we have a Democratic president, whether it be Richardson, Dodd, Edwards, Clinton, or Obama... exactly the same things get accomplished.

This is stupid and useless bickering.

[Mandy]

What really gets me . . . why should ANYONE quit the race? Aren't we supposed to vote for the candidate that we believe is best for the COUNTRY, and not the one that's best for the PARTY?

I couldn't give two hoots about the Dem/Rep parties. I want a candidate who, in my opinion, will get this country back on track. And that candidate is SENATOR Clinton (NOT "Hillary", people - show some respect).

Frankly, even if she loses the nomination or chooses to drop out, I'd still write her in on the November ballot. I'm voting my conscience, and I would hope all other responsible citizens could do the same.

[Jane]

Will everyone please calm down. She's already said she's going to stop after all the contests are over; she's not going to take it to convention. She'll probably be the only female in the history books to even come close to be elected president for the next 50 years. The books will say how many states she won. Let women have that at least.

Everyone always asks about racism in the exist polls, but no questions about sexism; like it doesn't exist...

[earl]

Please! folks wake up this country is in deep doo doo.
H.R.C.&B.H.O. are both socialest left wing nuts that will bankrupt this country in no time ,and if you say they will pay for all this stuff by taxing yhe rich.
Well suprise if you work for a living you are now rich under there new way of looking at things.
Don't think i'm right just elect one of these two fools and kiss your wallet good bye.

[unknown soldier]

If people would spend even 1/10th the time and effort they do on the presidential election, on congressional and senate elections we might actually do something to change the Country for the better. The presidential election wastes millions of dollars we should be using to fix problems, not for posturing and smear adds. Politics in America is nothing more than a scam popularity contest. The people posting so aggressively on one side or the other would do more to change things if they would spend some time on the other elections. America needs to start holding its officials accountable (truly). We have the power, quit letting the media dumb you down with facts and figures that have little to do with any actual possibility of change.

This country needs more than a two party system, only then can someone actually take the high ground and discuss what matters. While we are at it, do away with the two term presidency. Make it one 6 yr term and more time could be spent changing things for the better, wasting less on re-election posturing.

For a country with one of the greatest Govt's of all times, we sure are good at making it a inefficient mess while losing sight of making changes for the better.

If you want to be a true patriot, question your Govt. and vote (in all the elections).

[cb]

Why should she quit? Senator Obama's candidacy has been a walk in the park with the media. She has been slammed at every turn. It's shameful. Although she would love to see us unite as democrats, there are a growing number that realize the Democratic Party has been very favorable toward Senator Obama. That will translate into my voting for Senator McCain.

[pbrady]

Thank God Someone is Finally Standing Up For Clinton,

I can't say how excited I am she's staying in the race, the prospect of the Democratic Party being reinvigorated by party insiders voting against the popular vote is very refreshing. Standing up against popular opinion is what this democracy needs. It worked in '84.

Also I'd love to see a candidate who took sniper fire in Bosnia, negotiated peace in N. Ireland.

I truly think Hillary will stand up for the little (wo)man, being the second highest recipient of donations from the HealthCare industry (after GW), she must obviously be the candidate who cares the most about health care.

While this list could go on for sometime, I think what makes me most giddy is how our democratic institutions would greatly benefit from is the possibility of two families running the country for what could be 28-32 years. From a humble VP George Herbet Walker, looking after Reagan in his later years, to the second term of Hillrod.

So, take a minute and slow down & smell the freedom.

[Darrell]

Hillary should never cocede to this inxeperienced Senator, Hilary, make Obama work for the nomination, so far the gender-biased media has given it to their love child Obama, he's no fighter, can't debate or think fast on his feet, or have a plan to fix America's ills, he's just all eloquent talk with no solid substance to his message, This Black American male will not support this party or Obama if he becomes the nominee over Hillary, even if Hillary is offered the VP position, campaigns for Obama, he will not get my vote, Obama does not derserve this position due to his lack of experience and qualification to efectively due the job he would be elected to do.

No Obama, No Democratic Party for me, I now consider myself an Independent since this party threw Hillary under the bus for an inexperienced Senator who just came on the scene preaching false hope and change.

[Getahun Leta]

Hillary will fight to the last and she is not the type of person who collupses under pressure. Despite all odds against her, she has demonstrated tougheness, reselience and determination to prove that women is equally qualified for the the high office. In this regard, she has already made a history and opened the eyes of women in this country.

[Evelyn]

The race is a virtual tie- a dead heat with the pledged delegates-- or else why do the candidates need the super delegate vote?
Hillary should stay in the race and MI and FL should have a revote or the votes need to be counted as cast. Or else the nominee is not really valid because the contest is so close and supers are needed.

Why are many women so angry? Because it seems that the Male Jr. Executive will less experience is getting the CEO position over the Femaile Sr. Executive with more experience before all the votes are even counted.

Sexism is alive and well.

[raj town]

Nice to see all the hate still coming from the Clintonites. Maybe if you people can let it go she will be asked to run on the ticket, or maybe not. You can hate all you want folks, but Obama's campaign is NOT for haters-- I hope after a few years you people will get the news- YOUR SWEETIE LOST!!!!

[Jeff B]

The division of Democrats is par for the course -- "I don't belong to an organized political party, I'm a democrat!". The negative comments that one or another candidate or campaign has made about the other is politics as usual -- at times the 'truth' is the least important thing, all that matters is (apparently) winning.

HRC is a very intelligent woman, an asset to the party and the country, and I think among the most capable senators currently holding office. Undeniably, she has misspoken at times, and one has to wonder why? Bullets from snipers? I have trouble believing she didn't know the truth as she repeated this story for effect, and I find that troubling. Moreover I honestly wish she had made other choices, and run a positive campaign rather than succumbing to "politics as usual". Some say, "she speaks for me", but I now know she doesn't speak for me though early on I supported her. Some say her stubborness is a virtue, but it is not always one. Look at 'W' for proof of that.

Barack Obama has also made missteps. The Wright controversy is the proverbial tempest in a teacup -- in this country, what decent person should support guilt by association, in the absence of any other evidence? We are supposed to know better in the court room, should the standard be lower in the process of electing those who govern? In particular, what democrat should condemn without proof? Obama's comments about 'bitter' were from his own mouth, he says he should have chosen his words more carefully at the end of a tiring day. No doubt, and I wish he had.

Let us not forget what's at stake here -- the economy, the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, the future of the Supreme Court, and so on. If you are a democrat, believing in progressive core principles, how could John McCain further the realization of those principles?

Senators Clinton and Obama are both good people and I am proud they are democrats. Campaigns are wearing, and the challenges they present sometimes lead candidates into gaffs and missteps -- but these are genuinely good people, both decent and capable, both intelligent and caring individuals, and I would support either against McCain. All democrats should.

[H.O.]

“Technically” Obama could be eating babies too.

[owio]

Hilary does not quit because she has spent ten years working for this nomination and has spent a lot of money and political capital in the process. In those circumstances, would you quit?

[Edward]

Look, Clinton's going to stay in. She's going to keep on fighting. By all means, it's legal and I have nothing against it. However, her chances are getting the nomination are, as of now, extremely low. Keep it realistic here.

Her chance of winning now is like being down by 25 points with 2 minutes left on the clock in a basketball game. Sure, it's technically feasible to win, but not realistically.

So by all means, support the candidate who you like, vote for whomever you like, but when Clinton doesn't get the nomination, don't be surprised.

[Rainy]

I think Hillaryshould remember how she continued to live with a man that was a cheater and a liar when she remarks that she would not have continued to go to "that church".
It was my desire in 2008 to vote for a woman but after watching and listening to Hillary's speeches I have changed my mind, to me she sounds like she is desperate to be the winner at any cost.
I also want a new start instead ot the old White House crowd .. Bush, Clinton ..Bush and another Clinton just carries on with the old ways. How about a change?
The people will decide and so far it seems like they have chosen Obama.

[Zeplin]

No worries,

Hillary will not quit, everyone needs to chill.If she quit now it would make a lot of people mad.

After she loses she needs to think about swinging all those people who believe in her over to obama.

I think more people should give credit to Obama for being gracious and patient with the election. He has maintained his integrity when tested to the fullest.

I am proud to have such a good canidate running for the presidency. Go Obama!

[Nasreen]

There are A LOT OF PEOPLE who support Clinton. Why should she quit? why? Is it because of all these sexists around the country? or because of these boys who can't stand having a woman president? Time to grow up boys! You’re going to regret it if either Obama or McBush gets elected!!

[Andy]

I have voted for Hillary Clinton in Texas primary. I am glad that Democratic party has two very good candidates. I will vote for Obama, if he's the party's nominee with out any reservations. I want to vote for him because I want Obama supporters to do the same thing iif Clinton is the nominee. It is hypocritical to suggest that some people wouldn't vote for the party's nominee, when there is not much policy difference between Clinton and Obama. I also think media just over blown this thing. In the end, all Democrats will unite, whoever is the nominee.

[Nasi Mai W Andi]

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!! NO QUESTION!

[jsnow]

Reason one for Hillary not to quit; we don't need a candidate that spouts empty rhetoric and sounds like a rerun of the youth independent party of the 60's. and we don't want a McBush.

[LH]

It's clear that Hillary certainly caters to the uneducated, emotional, self-serving cause oriented segment of our society. These are the same folks reposnible for bringing us 8 years of W and it appears they are intent on bringing on another 8 years just because their puny little egos "want to be heard". As if it really menas something to the majorityof voters!

It's been a long while since we've had a candidate with honest virutes and an ability to communicate with the majority of voters. Try as he may, Obama cannot bring those along if they are unwilling but at least he's made an attempt. Some people are truly addicted to banging their heads against a brick wall and they have quite the cheerleader in HRC.

HRC supporters also must have way too much money if they can continue to dump it into a losing battle. But of course many will expect the Dems to bail them out with a new social welfare program catered to cover stubborn fools who can't tell up from down!

[Nancy]

All this garbage spewing from the Hillary supporters is no doubt causing super delegates to endorse Obama if for no other reason than she and her crew are hurting the party and they would like to shut her and her groopies up. Fine idea!

[jp]

Hillary-its over sweeeeetie,get out of the way.

[NinaK]

I have a challenge for all Obamanites. I vote you let Barak and Michelle take your children to church with them every Sunday and hear Rev Wright. Evidently they thought it was good enough for their girls to be indoctrinated, why not yours? I can't think of any Church not racially integrated so it is not about race, it is about the message. As adults they had the ability to 'weed' out the racist hatred he spewed, but how about the kids? It will live with them a life time. These two are not responsible enough to be White House role models for American families and children. So go ahead, get your kids their Sunday best on. The Obama's are on their way.

Posted by: Linda
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Linda and others of your similar ilk who keep saying Senator Obama and Michelle took their children to their to listen to Rev Wright are absolutely lying. In HUGE churches like that, the cildren go to the church nursery where they attend Sunday School and don't attend the services at all. The Obamas are good, Christian people who practice Jesus' teachings and have the ideal family of closeness, love, and togetherness. Senator Obama has actually taken time off his campaign to be with his family at Christmas, their birthdays, Easter, and school events, even if that means only for a few hours. How many of your husbands/wives come home for a few hours from their jobs away from home to be you and your children for any or all of these things???

You people who bash the good Senator for anything and everything and add your own false stories ought to take a deep breath and evaluate yourselves and try to find why it is that you are so angry, resentful, hateful, and slanderous, racists, and bigots. I truely believe the whole problem lies within yourselves and not Senator Obama, you have made him THE TARGET for your own shortcomings and insecurities. Whether you like it or not, he has won the Democratic nomination fairly, squarely, and with a lot of hard work. He competed against the "Formidable and Mighty Clintonion Machine" and he conquered it. (Just think of David and Goliath). The Clintons do not like being beat by ANYONE, especially a man who is black. This is obvious in how they played the the race card throughout the campaign and in the many ways Bill, Hilliary, her campaign heads and aides, and surrogates belittled and slandered him, throwing the kitchen sink (their words) at him, and being downright ugly. In my book, anyone who can beat the Clintonions deserves great kudos for having done so. Senator Obama will make a great and effective President. And guess what, you, too, will be the "receipients" of the good and great things America will have become. May God bless the United States of America as we move forward toward a brighter and better future under the outstanding leadership of President and Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama!

[NinaK]

Pretty funny that a person would NOT allow their daughter or son to date or go to any event with Oboma when he was a teenager because of his drunkiness and drugs, yet they would vote for this impaired person for the highest office in the land because Kerry/Kennedy say so.
No thank you.

Posted by: Alison McKen
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More lies, more garbage. Alison, please go to your computer and google "THE CLINTON CHRONICLES" free audio. I think you might really enjoy this audio, it is a documentary of the wonderful successes of the Clintons throughout the years in Arkansas. I can understand your support for the Clintons, this audio will show you more as to why you should continue to support them. Have fun. :):)

[NinaK]

Maybe Hillary doesn't understand math? She can't balance her campaign's budget, she doesn't understand what economists do, and she cannot see from the delegate counts that she cannot win.

I say she just doesn't understand math.

When your opponent needs 124 to win and you need 309 to win, it is NOT CLOSE and it is time to bow out.

And if she let Bill off the hook for his transgressions, do you really think she is going to stop her administration from running amok?

Posted by: Fran Taylor
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Fran, well said! I would like to add that Hillary has problems with anything that has numbers in it. The day before the West Virginia primary, she was telling her audiences that NO candidate had one the White House without wining West Virginia SINCE 1916!!! Funny thing is, HER husband, Bill Clinton, won West Virginia in 1992 and again in 1996!! WOW, she can't even remember this?? Wonder how Bill feels being thrown under the bus by his own wife??

Also, George Bush won West Virginia in 2000 and in 2004. She forgot about this too!!

In other words, The two 8-year Presidents won West Virginia in the LAST FOUR consecutive Presidential Elections. And Hilliary DOES NOT KNOW this??? I would say Hilliary has a real problem with numbers of any kind and looks like she has problems with recent politiical history!!

[HC]

The media jumps all over Obama for the Jeremiah Wright thing, but gives Hillary a pass on her relationship with the shadowy group "The Family". Hillary refused to discuss (but does not deny) her involvement with a cult that has some sick fascination with Adolph Hitler and various South American nazis and right wing thugs.

I think the Hillary supporters owe it to themselves to read the Jeff Sharlet book: "The Family: The secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power". You should know something about the cult of power with which Hillary has allied herself.

"Sharlet generously attributes Clinton’s involvement to the underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define the Family’s theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the “meek.” They believe that, in mass societies, it’s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God’s “dominion” on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it’s all about power – cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or “cells.” “We work with power where we can,” Doug Coe has said, and “build new power where we can't.”"

http://ehrenreich.blogs.com/barbaras_blog/2008/03/hillarys-nasty.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/12/101438/860/493/514127
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
http://texbetsy.headonradionetwork.com/2008/03/21/hillarys-religion/
http://donkeyod.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics/

[Eric]

"at no time in political history has the party who has taken a nomination fight to the convention has ever won the Presidency"

treetracker, I don't know where you studied political history but that statement is simply wrong. There are plenty of examples where past nomination battles were only settled at the convention. Lincoln's nomination in 1860 was the result of a brokered convention. Woodrow Wilson in 1912 was nominated on the 46th convention ballot. It took four ballots in 1932 before FDR was nominated. In 1960 JFK went to the convention a few dozen votes short and barely won a first-ballot nomination.

However, I agree with your main sentiment that Democrats need to begin to work together to defeat McCain. This is not a bunch of men ganging up on Hillary Clinton. Obama will get the nomination because Clinton ran a poor campaign. She lost numerous states she should have won, including a bunch of caucus states, because presumably she should have had the stronger organization. But all along she acted as though the process should have been nothing more than ratification of her entitlement to be the nominee. Meanwhile Obama's campaign meticulously planned and executed a delegate strategy that won the actual contest.

Now, winning delegates often does not translate into success in winning the general election. But Clinton's claim to be more "electable" than Obama is highly debatable. She says Obama can't win swing states, but she and Bill have seriously offended the black voters that *she* needs to win swing states. I believe Obama has a better chance of putting together the necessary coalition of electoral votes than Clinton at this point.

In any case it would be a mistake to believe that beating McCain will be easy for either of them. The electoral map has a built-in bias for Republicans at this time, largely because the "red" states include almost all of those with low populations. Each state gets two "at-large" electoral votes (representing their Senators), and this multplies the voting power of individual voters in low-population states. If you do the math you see that every vote in Wyoming, for example, is worth a lot more electorally than every vote in California. It's a bad system for a "democracy," and it's a big advantage for the Republican candidate as was amply demonstrated in 2000.

That's why, as you say, Democrats must get behind the nominee if McCain is to be defeated. The "swing states" are indeed important, but Obama's swing states like Louisiana and Virginia are just as important Clinton's example of West Virginia.

[Hana]

To vote for Hillary just because she is FEMALE...now that's sexist.
This shouldn't be about gender or race it should be about the future of this country and the generations to come.
Try to put all your prejudices away and vote clearly and responsibly.

I'm a proud mother of two and Obama has my vote.

[NinaK]

I'm a father of two daughters and I would love to see them grow up thinking that a woman can be president after 2 century's of male presidents. Aren't women 50% of the US population?

Posted by: Larry
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First, I definitely would not cite or use Hilliary as a role model for my daughters! Lies, dishonesty, slander, uncontrolled temper tantrums, anger, condescending, fraudulant, and on and on. Poor leadership skills (look at her chaotic and disconnected campaign) and campaign financial problems, including her refusal to pay the middle-class vendors and business people who provided their services to her and her campaign dating back to Iowa; is over $20 Million in debt. She has no sense of integrity, honesty, vision, wisdom, or even kindness.

I am sure that in your daughters lifetime they will see a woman of high ideals. integrity, honesty, outstanding leadership, and good character running for President, winning the nomination, and ultimately winning the Office of the Presidency. That woman is NOT Hilliary Clinton.

[Obama will talk to Osama]

Posted by: Jason | May 16, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Hillary IS NOT a role model for my sdaughter. You must have no self-esteem to say this woman is a role model? for what? Lying and scheming and still losing? entitlement?
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Hey Jason, why don't you send your daughter to church with Barrack and Michelle? They are great role models. Your daughter can learn to be a bigot.

[John from CA]

Evelyn said:
"Why are many women so angry? Because it seems that the Male Jr. Executive will less experience is getting the CEO position over the Femaile Sr. Executive with more experience before all the votes are even counted. Sexism is alive and well."

Actually, he has MORE experience than she does, unless you count being the spouse of a President and living in the White House as experience (which I don't).

[Kerrie O'Malley]

Pesonally, as a woman I am truly disturbed by the reverse sexism that I am hearing from women. Many of the ladies on here are not saying specifically why they think Hillary would be the best President.

Usually those women just make comments like Hillary is more qualified or she deserves it or hillary really cares about me and my values, there is a glass ceiling and they don't like her because she is strong.... what they are really trying to say is that because Hillary is female, that that somehow automatically qualifies her to be the best person for the job of president. Even though I would really like to see a woman president.. I really believe their are true women trailblazers who would do a much better job.

Just to name a few... Dianne Feinstein, Oprah, Barbara Boxer, Pelosi, Condi Rice, Seibelius... and others.etc. These women are truly leaders they are self-made and have not used their husbands to get what they want... I'm so sick of people saying that Hillary is most qualified...according to who or what.. the women only has about 6 years in elected office... all her other years.. she was the wife of a politician and really didn't have a role... except maybe planning parties.. this is bull. Hillary does whatever Bill thinks she should do...and really I think she is spoiled, selfish and truly not a female role model for me. The fact that she stayed with a man who constantly cheated on her is not the sign of a true independent, courageous leader... that says to me that she will say or do anything to get what she wants.. and it makes me sick.

I must agree with Oprah that because I am a free women I can chose for myself who I think will be the next best president and when the choice is between Hillary and Barack I must chose Barack because he has proven to be a leader and based on his past does not pander to whatever people want him to say.... I think He is the better canidate and that is why women all across America, who are not drunk with the power grab are making the sobering choice to choose the best canidate Barack over Mrs.Billary. She just is not the one ladies.... maybe Sebilieus will run someday.. I will be happy to vote for her. I am so disappointed at how sexist women have shown themselves to be throughtout this election process..... GO BARACK.....WOMEN ALL OVER AMERICA LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!

[Tina]

When Senator Obama has the requisite number of delegates, he wins. Since he doesn't have that number, he's not yet the nominee. Why is this difficult to understand? There is a process, and in fact, it's a democratic process. The primaries are not over. If Obama is the certain nominee anyway, why are you worried about Senator Clinton? Senator Clinton should continue to run until the primary season is over. Too many people here don't seem to understand democracy. Senator Obama has a plurality of the delegates, but he's not at the magic number yet. The clamor for Senator Clinton to quit that I see from the media and some Obama supporters is disturbing. This is what happens in countries where democracy is not embraced.

[Eric]

A question for Hillary supporters: why does she keep lying about leading Obama in the popular vote? We all know she's counting Michigan, which every candidate agreed not to count (and do you really think none of those 40% who voted for "Uncommited" would have voted for Obama?). And besides that she is not counting Iowa, where she finished third, or Maine, both caucus states where votes are not counted but Obama won. Hillary has a real problem with the truth. The fact that she will say or try anything to win (the "kitchen sink strategy," to use her own campaign's description) has caused my opinion of her to go way down.

[lowlights]

Oh yeah - let's stick with Hillary "Stay the Course" Clinton.

Because that philosophy can do nothing but good for the country ... um ... right?

[Tina]

To all the people who continue to say they want new leadership rather than the Clintons or Bushes, I say you could have had it in 2000 and 2004. Remember, both Al Gore and John Kerry ran? Why didn't you come out big for Gore or Kerry. I did, and I remember the many self-righteous people who voted for Nader; clearly they were certainly within their rights to vote for the candidate they felt represented them, but if we wanted new leadership, we missed the boat twice. In this election, I feel Senator Clinton represents my interests, and I'm proud to be one of her supporters.

[Character Counts]

I want Hillary to quit, well because it’s over. I haven’t had much respect for the Clintons ever since Bill spilled something on a blue dress in the Oval Office and then pointed his finger and committed perjury. Hillary and Bill have worked over-time during this campaign to add to the very long list of things I don’t like about the Clintons, and they continue to work at it.

There is an additional benefit to Hillary finally acknowledging what she, her advisers, the pundits, and the rest of us already know. We will no longer see endless blog posts from Hillary supporters and from Republicans who claim to be Hillary supporters dredging up every myth that has ever been floated about Barack Obama, with a heavy dose of racism and sexism added for good measure.

[Character Counts]

Let’s talk about Hillary’s experience. She made it on Bill’s coattails. That is the sum and total of her daunted experience. She is a first term senator from NY. So, she and Obama a equals on that score. She was a high priced corporate lawyer, the wife of a philandering governor of Arkansas, and the first lady of a cheating President. Obama got lucky, he never did any of those things.

To all those Hillary Supporters consider this... (I once did support her, and wanted to support a woman for president but now am sure NOT THIS WOMAN)
1. Underestimating your opponent: Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld thought Iraq would, to quote Rumsfeld, "last 6 days or 6 weeks but not 6 months" and today we are in the 6th year of the war. Hillary underestimated Obama and thought the nomination would be over by Feb 5.
2. When the war did not end, and Iraqis did not "greet US as liberator" Bush/Cheney/Rummy had no plan B. neither did Hillary when Super Tuesday did not go her way.
3. Every few months into the war, we, the American People were told by this administration, that we have "turned a corner" in Iraq war and kept redefining "success" in the war. So did Hillary keep moving goal post, after 11 successive defeats in primary, her game changers were Texas/Ohio, then Pennsylvania, then NC/Indiana.
4. When all else failed, Bush surged in the 5th year of the war and redefined "victory" in Iraq. So did Hillary in W. Virginia. Bush's surge, apart from sending additional 30000 troops, included paying off Sunni insurgents (and dividing Iraqis from Qaeda..