Barack Obama plays a new number for V Day -- May 20
While everyone keeps running through the math of the Democratic primary battle, Barack Obama's campaign already has come up with its own bottom line: The contest effectively ends on May 20.
There are 217 pledged delegates up for grabs in the remaining six primaries, fewer than the number of as-yet-undeclared superdelegates. The Obama camp will bolster its efforts to court these votes this weekend, when it kicks off a 50-state voter registration drive.
Each of the remaining contests lines up neatly for one candidate or the other-- West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico for Clinton, and Oregon, South Dakota and Montana for Obama.
The Obama campaign is likely to start pressing for commitments from superdelegates -- if not right away, then after the May 20 primaries in Kentucky and Oregon. At that point, under any likely scenario, Obama will lock up a majority of the pledged delegates.
Hari Sevugan, an Obama campaign spokesman, said today: "We are currently 33 delegates away from clinching a majority of all pledged delegates. Looking at this conservatively, coming out of the primaries in West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon, we expect to be able to go over the top by the night of May 20th.''
CBS 2, WBBM, in Chicago picked up on this today, declaring that "Barack Obama plans to claim the Democratic presidential nomination on the evening of May 20.''
Obama strategist David Axelrod told the station ...
that on May 20, when Oregon (with its mail-in voting system) declares "the polls" closed, Obama will have 1,627 pledged delegates -- a majority of those who were up for election throughout the process.
"To my knowledge, the party has never nominated anyone other than the winner of the most elected delegates,'' Axelrod said.
"The Obama campaign is planning a big victory rally on that date, in a scope well beyond the typical rally following past primary victories,'' the station notes.
"However, the (Hillary) Clinton camp claims the majority number would be 1,784 if the party decides to include delegates from the disputed states of Florida and Michigan.''
And, of course, when superdelegates are added in, a candidate currently needs to reach the 2,025 mark at the party's convention in Denver to claim the nomination (and perhaps more, depending on how the ongoing dispute over the rogue Michigan and Florida primaries is resolved).
-- Mike Dorning and Mark Silva
Mike Dorning and Mark Silva write for the Swamp of the Chicago Tribune's Washington bureau.
Christi Parsons contributed to this report.
Obama supporters are short on "class". The don't realize how short-sighted this attitude is, and how it can impact their candidate. They typify what foreigners describe as "ugly Americans".
As a Clinton supporter, I am telling you to pls. not bother to offer her the vice-presidency, because we will never back an Obama/Clinton ticket. We will never vote for Obama.
I will vote for McCain, and gladly accept his tax breaks, thank you very much! :)
Posted by: BJ | May 08, 2008 at 08:27 PM
In response to BJ's comment. BJ, you apprently are not a democrat; nor do you care about the majority of Americans who will be negatively impacted by a McCain presidency.
Posted by: Baron Hollister | May 08, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Short on "class?" We have an election to win! John McCain has no opposition. Your candidate ran a terrible campaign and couldn't manage her money. She provided no compelling reasons for why she should be President and many why she shouldn't, including the people she surrounded herself with, her failure to pay small vendors during the campaign and her comment about "obliterating Iran" all serve to point to why she should never be President.
Posted by: Barbara | May 08, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Hillary is real classy. She fights dirty, and breaks her pleges. She also happens to be a pathological liar as well.
Posted by: Bill | May 08, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Obama should call V day already by Monday. Hillary's campaign won't listen to pundits-her campaign is over, not to Nobel WInner economists on her silly gas tax proposal and now won't listen to Michigan!
Clipped...
Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday rejected a compromise plan to seat Michigan's delegates to the national convention that would give 69 delegates to Clinton and 59 to Barack Obama.
"This proposal does not honor the 600,000 votes that were cast in Michigan's January primary. Those votes must be counted," Clinton spokesman Isaac Baker said.
The Michigan Democratic Party had approved the plan and intended to submit it to the Democratic National Committee meeting on May 31.
Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said in a statement that the plan was a "good step toward a solution that unites Democrats and ensures that our state will not face a McCain presidency."
Clinton's campaign has maintained that the delegation should be allocated according to the vote in the Jan. 15 primary (73/55) but Obama's campaign had argued the delegation should be split between the two candidates (64/64) because he was not on the ballot.
Elizabeth Kerr, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Democratic Party, said the Clinton campaign's assertion that the votes "weren't honored" was "incorrect."
"This proposal honors the result of the January 15th primary but also takes into consideration that Obama's name was not on the ballot," she said.
In Florida,
Every time Hillary Clinton is on the ropes -- as she was Wednesday after lackluster showings in Indiana and North Carolina -- her fallback is always the same: Count Florida's votes.
But even her campaign acknowledges that the state can't deliver her the Democratic nomination.
Squeezing all of the votes out of Florida's Jan. 29 primary still leaves her trailing Barack Obama -- and Florida Democrats are willing to settle for half as many.
'It's time to move on,'' said Dan Gelber of Miami Beach, the Democratic leader in the Florida House and the first of the state's superdelegates to take sides since late February. ``I want to do anything I can to get people moving toward Obama and worrying about November. We've got to end this current race as quickly as possible.''
Other undecided elected officials and party leaders in Florida were in no rush to take sides. U.S. Rep. Allen Boyd, who represents a conservative area in Florida's Panhandle, said he remains ''unpledged and uncommitted'' and plans to stay that way.
Posted by: Marks | May 08, 2008 at 09:28 PM
BJ ------- I agree with you. The Obama supporters and the media have shown so much disrespect and made dishonest verbal statements about Hillary that no matter how she might work to bring us democrats together for Obama in the november election, I will not vote for Obama. ---------- Hello McCaine.
Posted by: See You McCaine | May 08, 2008 at 09:37 PM
"They typify what foreigners describe as "ugly Americans"."
I would like to srongly object to this statement. I am a foreigner and I have never been so pumped up for a Obama presidency.
Trust me. When he wins the POTUS, people across the world will be celebrating on the streets. He kills in polls in the UK, in France, in Canada, in Japan, in Spain, in Isreal, throughout Asia and the middle east. In Africa, they will go crazy if he wins.
I am proud of my American roots today. I haven't been able to say that in a long time.
Posted by: Ryaple | May 08, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Why is there a presidential primary from PUERTO RICO?
If they can't vote for the presidential elections in November, why in tarnations are they involved in selecting a primary candidate?
It's just as confusing as Hillary's promises.
Posted by: SimpleRep | May 08, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Hillary didn't so much win that primary in Pa as ensure that the Democrats lost it. The time is long overdue for her to frankly admit
that her race is run. She cannot win the nomination from here. All she
can do is ensure that money pledged by people who want the Democrats
to win in November ends up saving a Republican from spending his money
and goodwill doing what she is doing.
So far, Obama has won
a) the popular vote
b) most states
c) most delegates
d) the fund raising campaign
And is
d) ahead in the opinion polls
e) seen by most Democrats as more electable
Hillary is seen by about 60% of the electorate as untrustworthy and
about 50% will never vote for her. Yet in a straight race with McCain,
Obama might well score as much as 60% -- he's that sort of candidate.
Any combination of circumstances that now saw Hillary get the
nomination would be an unmitigated disaster, unless you want a
Republican to win. In short, the party cannot in the end, put her
forward. The sooner she accepts that and moves on the better everyone
will be.
Democrats who want to see a Democrat win in November should write
their elected officials now, (especially those who are unpledged or
committed to Clinton), saying plainly that we will not tolerate this
contest going on any longer, and that if Clinton gets the nomination,
we will not give her campaign the time of day, much less our votes or
cash. We must make it clear to them that if the Democrats don't win in
November, those who failed to come out against Clinton must bear their
share of the blame.
We must do it in our tens of thousands and we must do it now.
PeteR
Posted by: Peter Rivers | May 09, 2008 at 12:06 AM
the fact is why has hillary clinton allowed herself to be a candidate in michigan and florida. as a senator and leader she should not allow rules and laws of the party to be flouted. in fact, if the party has been true to its principles, hillary should not even be allowed to campaign for the presidential nominee. now what is she talking about counting those votes in florida and michigan. she should know better what she should say and what she should not. at the moment, she doesnt and that's not what we want as the American president.
Posted by: john denver jr | May 09, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Hillary will win democratic nominee because her victory came to the obama doorstep state -Indiana . Obama will lose in virginia , washington state ,wisconsin, District of columbia elections if there are democratic primary election in these states now because white people from these states don't like obama now because his paster comment and his bitter comment. America never accept black democratic nominee because crimes will increase caused by black people if president is black. Clinton also won core traditional big democratic states and swing states. Super deligates will choose hillary because she won core traditional big democratic states and swing states .
Supre deligates should choose hillary because she won more electorial votes(like in general election) than obama.Obama should quit the race because he didn't win core traditional democratic states and swing states and white people.
Posted by: andrew | May 09, 2008 at 02:06 AM
Wow... really Andrew? "America never accept black democratic nominee because crimes will increase caused by black people if president is black." I've never been more proud to be a white supporter of Obama than now, after reading your blatant racist comment.
Posted by: Rebecca | May 09, 2008 at 04:10 AM
Yes. It is unlikely Clinton can do anything but further divide the party and evidently it is of no consequence to her. Although both candidates have said they will "come together" no matter who wins, Clinton's campaign has been so negative she hs rendered herself useless as a supporter should she have to do so.
She has demonstrated a self-serving streak that has ripped through the party. Should there be a coup at the national convention, I will not vote for anyone. Hillary's campaign fund sources are objectionable enough for me to question how far she can really stray from business as usual.
Posted by: Susan Fowler | May 09, 2008 at 04:11 AM
I am starting to think that these so-called democrats who say they'll vote McCain over Obama are among that baffling and self-destructive crew who voted for GW Bush...twice! Their nihilism is beyond comprehension.
I guess they all long for WW3, which their gal Hill Bill or the republican Bush-clone would promptly serve up if elected.
Posted by: Adnora | May 09, 2008 at 06:52 AM
andrew: you typify the "uneducated white american" that clinton has cast her spell over...and quite frankly, good. good for obama. your ignorance, and spelling errors, can go down in history as the reason she "lost" the nomination. Yes, so please, keep spewing your pro-hillary ignorance -- it will only spurn other to vote opposite of it
Posted by: Mary | May 09, 2008 at 06:59 AM
Please all of your who are saying "If this candidate wins I won't vote," or "If that candidate wins, I'll vote for McCain," just stop it.
Are you really so vindictive that you would settle for four more years of George Bush policies rather than vote for a solid democratic contender? Isn't the economy and slogging stock market bad enough for you yet? Aren't gasoline, heating oil, and grocery prices high enough? Do you like it that as a percentage of your earnings, you pay more taxes than the multi-millionaires and billionaires? Haven't enough young American men women died in Iraq?
Let's get real and move forward. John McCain will continue the republican's streak of worst presidents ever, starting with Bush senior. He has nothing new or helpful to offer.
P.S. I realize that many of the people who are posting these things weren't going to vote democratic anyway, but just in case one of you is a sincere democratic voter, please think about the above.
Posted by: American146 | May 09, 2008 at 07:35 AM
I dont understand short sided people who say they will never vote for Obama. If he is not the nominee I would still vote for Clinton. Is it becasue he's black?
Posted by: KB | May 09, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Hey, See You McCaine (actually, it's McCain),
I was gonna address your statement about "dishonest verbal statements about Hillary", but I was busy ducking sniper fire...
Posted by: Cynic | May 09, 2008 at 10:33 AM
The time has come for Obama to become the sole Democratic Party candidate.
This Independent will vote for him.
If you would rather vote for Jeorge McSaim, and promote a third term for George Bush's policies, I have to wonder about your commitment to your planet, your country and your future, let alone your party.
Michigan and Florida are out, and should staty out. Look to your state's governemnt and party commitee if you want to complain.
Posted by: Charlie | May 09, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Hey BJ,
You make over $250,000 a year? Otherwise don't expect a tax break for McCain. You support overturning Roe Vs. Wade, then vote for McCain. You support saying in Iraq, then vote McCain.
Oh, your mad the Clintons lost....that's good enough to forfit your values for.
$1,000.00 Cash Back. Vote Obama.
Posted by: DS | May 09, 2008 at 10:48 AM
I really love the self-righteous, indignant "Clinton supporters" crawling out of the woodwork and threatening to take their votes to McCain lest we Democrats do their bidding and help Clinton steal the election.
Note: YOU ARE REPUBLICANS AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN! And we are not going to allow Republicans in Democratic clothing to set our Party's agenda!
Posted by: RobinL | May 09, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Hillary cannot divide the party it is already divided.and it cannot win in the fall with Obama
Posted by: D GRACE | May 09, 2008 at 10:59 AM
The problem with McCain and his tax breaks is that the corporations will be the beneficiaries of his plans. What we will be the beneficiaries of will be higher inflation. Only the people in the top one per cent or less will benefit from that economic environment. 401K's will suffer.
These are tough times no matter who is president. McCain is an economic cretin. There are few who can afford him.
Posted by: Ron M | May 09, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Hillary has now loaned her campaign 11 million from her pocket. Is she trying to buy this presidency? I thought the FEC don't allow candidates to use their money to influence the election. How is she going to get this money back to pay herself back? I dont think her supporters will be that stupid to waste their money by funding her loosing campaign. I believe people that are seen in her nowadays rallies are mostly republicans who are just prolonging this primaries but will not give a penny to her camp but just their votes to tear down the Dems. It's time to bow down Billary and let the DEMs win the house come Nov.
Posted by: Keep wasting your $$$ | May 09, 2008 at 11:18 AM
The Democratic party no longer has room under its big tent for intolerant bigots and race baiters. The Republican party, despite its anti-slavery roots,these days seems to have plenty of empty seats in its anti-gay, anti-women, anti-progress, anti-secular, pro-fundamentalist, pro-Armageddon pro-theocracy wings for all those Clintonites who can't cope. We real Democrats can only hope that someday you'll choose love and compassion over hate and we will gladly welcome you back.
Posted by: John | May 09, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Obama the rookie is supposed to change Washington? Please, what an insult. And all his college educated supporters won't see the error of their ways until they are out of college working in a real job for at least 10 years. It's the economy stupid and the Clntons delivered 8 years of growth, stability and a budget surplus. Obama can change Washington no more than he could pay his parking tickets. All the people who claim that he can transcend race are illusioned. Am I supposed to believe that all Latinos and Asians will back him in the general election just because he is the Democratic nominee? What America have these people been living in for the past 30 years? Racial divisions are alive and well in this country. Anybody who claims otherwise is both ignorant and a liar, including Barack. His presidency will bring ethnic tensions in this coutry to the forefront and it will also be the end of his political career because it won't take long for his promises to fall through. A rookie politician will be a lamb to all the veterans in Washington. Hey, but we can tell the world, "Look we aren't racist, we elected a black president!". Oh yeah, and I am not racist because I have a black friend.
Posted by: Hankheckler | May 09, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Obviously if you claim to believe in what Clinton stands for you would vote for Obama over McCain because Obama is in line with Clinton on almost every issue. Voting for McCain is petty and small minded.
Posted by: Darren | May 09, 2008 at 11:46 AM
To all those making threats to vote for mccain, in the words of a great Oregon company Just Do it already, nobody cares. Your threat holds no power because it is clear that you would not have voted for any Black candidate under any circumstances so Sen. Obama should just ignore you and your vote just like he is ignoring your desperate candidate.
Posted by: chrisc | May 09, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Barak HUSSIEN Obama's going to the white house baby! - First things first - Michelle renames it to the BLACK house! Barak & Rev. Wright are RIGHT God D*** america! I want my reparations check baby!!!
Posted by: Obamamania | May 09, 2008 at 12:04 PM
> I would like to strongly object to this statement. I am a foreigner and I have never been so pumped up for a Obama presidency.
Indeed, I sincerely hope we help him win and prove that America has changed since the Bush era.
That said, I think it's reasonable to be sensitive to the Clinton supporters and let her end this with class. There's no reason not to allow Hillary every means of exiting gracefully. I know there are a few who still think she can win, but even if we give her everything she wants, it's not enough at this point. The math just isn't there.
She ran a perfectly good race, she toughened up Obama and proved that we won't abandon him when things get a little rough. At his *weakest* he's only a couple of points behind McCain. At his strongest, the lead is in the double digits.
He can and will win, but there's no reason we can't be patient enough for this to play out.
Posted by: Joe | May 09, 2008 at 12:21 PM
O goody. May 20 is Oregon and Kentucky, probably a sure split. So if that is the day Obama stops running against Clinton but Clinton doesn't stop, what's that going to look like? We shall soon see.
Posted by: Gaias Child | May 09, 2008 at 12:22 PM
it is clear that hillary is playing her last card ,a card of racism .She is clearly saying that she can have the coalition of white americans behind her and should be the nominee . How desperate this is when Obama is running ahead in the popular vote most of which is that of white Americans . Divisiveness has only one goal whcih was already witnessed in the 1940's world history . Doing anything possible to get one wants is different from doing anything for a just cause . I am afraid that the hillary we used to admire as first lady and senator is demolishing her attire and that of the clinton tag which could be a lasting one .
If all is about America ,then lets think and sort things out . From now on the campaign to get the nomination from hillary's side is a smearing one and if it is aimed for 2012 then I believe it would only confirm the doom of the clintons (sorry Bill we still love U but it is time for u to come to your senses to stop the collapse of your legacy )
Posted by: addisu | May 09, 2008 at 12:37 PM
I voted for Hillary Clinton. We expected Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee. If that is not the case, then Obama folks should care less because I and all our voting families and friends have decided just in case of Hillary's loss, we will all register as Republican and vote for John Mccain as President.
Posted by: pinoy american | May 09, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Andrew, this is about the dumbest comment I've ever heard. Hillary doesn't have a chance unless Obama goes out and robs a bank or beats up a fellow Senator...not too likely. You should probably go join the Republicans, because Obama will be our next president. It's been a long time since we've seen someone honest running for politcal office, let alone the presidency.
Posted by: eric | May 09, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Obama and all his supporters can declare victory. Osama, Syria and Iran might as well enjoy the fun too. It is time to rally behind John McCain to become the president who can stand up and fight against the enemies of the United States of America. Obama has so far pledge to sit down and shake the hands of this country's deadly enemies.
Posted by: pinoy american | May 09, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Really Andrew!
The ignorance spouted out by lower educational level people such as yourself cause me to feel extreemly ashamed to be a white male! Perhaps this is why it is so easy for Hillary to pander to those such as yourself (I'll throw down a shot so all the PA rednecks will vote for me). Or maybe you are incapable of seeing through her lies (Sniper fire? I was covertly against NAFTA? My vote to bomb Iraq was miss-used by Bush? Etc., ect., etc.) What could possibly be the next phony ruse she swill use to confuse the already confused? Let me see. I think I got it. A choked up Hillary with her photo op tears will go live to draw an analogy between the poor Philly who gave her all just so she could be easily put to death by a bunch of men for getting injured, and her similar plight in this campaign in which she was bullied by the press in the debates, betrayed by the male Super-delegates and denied her right to the illegally obtained Michigan & Florida voted . Then all the Clinton lemmings will continue to fall in line with her line. Excuse me now, I must go puke. I've had all I can stands, and can't stands no more:) Good day:)
Posted by: Timothy | May 09, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Obama/Gore '08.
Paul.
Posted by: Paul M. | May 09, 2008 at 01:02 PM
When it comes down to it...we must unite! I don't want the war to continue. How many more must die???
Posted by: Jessica | May 09, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Obama makes me puke, his supporters are sick and racist, his wife, or whatever you want to call that ugly, racist b... will never inhabit the white house, you idiots.
Obama has divided this party and the dems have no one to blame but their stupid leadership that brought us Kerry, McGovern and Gore, now add Obama to the list of losers.
Posted by: Anee | May 09, 2008 at 10:46 PM
BEWARE!! DEMOCRATS ALL THOSE OFFERING McCAIN AS THE OTHER OPTION ARE REAL McCAIN SUPPORTERS (or agents) . THEY ARE NOT DEMOCRATS. They knew that Hillary ain't going to win in NOV so they voted Hillary in many occasions to bring down Obama.
Did anyone wonder how racism is being preached here in surrogation. They are trying to evoke the racist in you.
And this Democratic Primary was more like Rep+Hillary vs. Obama.
And finally, McCain will make the worst President , he is a big liar,very ignorant, warmonger.
In short BUSH SP1.
Posted by: ronpaulfan | May 09, 2008 at 11:22 PM
the rLOVEution sweeps the flatland opening the eyes of many millions to the long lost dimension of reality; in the light of time, there's x, y, z...and then, renewed perspective brings desired change, and RON PAUL appears.
Posted by: dave | May 10, 2008 at 03:11 AM
BJ and all the other closet Republicans posting here - you are all the shame of our nation. there is nothing that McCain stands for that is cohesive with Clinton. To change your ticket would be worse than not voting if you were truly an individual with conviction. Instead, it is you who are the hateful. And just because you are a member of the Low IQ sect here in the US, dont think propoganda, spin and outright lies will work as well on others as it has on you...you are an embarrassment to this country and to the spirit of democracy and freedom.
Posted by: jason | May 11, 2008 at 08:51 AM