Obama gains support, now leads among elected superdelegates
April 17, 2008 | 6:34
am
For those of you keeping score, Barack Obama has now moved past Hillary Clinton in terms of announced support from elected superdelegates (governors, senators and representatives).
He picked up three more on Wednesday.
Obama still trails Clinton slightly in overall superdelegates, 257-234.
But in overall delegates he leads by 141, 1,650-1,509. This according to the authoritative NBC count.
Still, not enough for anyone's victory. Next stop: Pennsylvania come Tuesday.
--Andrew Malcolm



If he wins Obama will be one of the least accomplished presidents of my lifetime. Even GW, on paper, looks way more impressive.
Posted by: stone | April 17, 2008 at 08:25 AM
It is incredibly depressing to see how ABC's debate was so controlled by pro-Clinton and her Republican conservative friends. Both groups want Senator Obama out of the race. Hillary only knows how to slice and dice. She is the meat cleaver of US politics and she is cannabalizing both the Democratic Party and the American people. Her entire personailty is monstrous. No wonder Bill looked for satisfaction from loose bimbos. None of the questions in the debate took on Hillary's outright lies, the hidden off-shore shady businesses and lobbyists who give the Clinton dynastyy megebucks, her strategist Penn's and husband's Colombia free trade support, etc, Obama will change business as usual in Congress and the WH. He will change our government to take it away from the lobbyists and oligarchs. He will work openly for national security, peace and the American people. Hillary, Wolfson, and the Clinton machine seize every opportunity to smear Obama, to throw the whole dirty kitchen sink at him (flag pins, guilt by assocation, etc, etc). Where is the debate on issues crucial to our nation, economy, education, security, future? The ABC cheap take on gotcha politics proves how mainstream media is still owned and run by Clinton power brokers. Our beloved republic is well on its way to becoming a Roman dynastic empire, with the Bush-Clinton dynasties, enabled by their henchmen and women, leaching off we ordinary citizens.
Posted by: shir | April 17, 2008 at 08:31 AM
The barely qualified wife of the former impeached president will lose because voters are burned out on the clintons. We reject the politics of personal destruction that they wallow in. Mrs. Clinton's problem isn't that voters don't know her, it's that we know her too well. Apperantly, the delegates and the superdelegates feel the same way. Kudos to the superdelegates for listening to what voters are saying. Any debt the clintons think the delegates and others 'owe' them was PAID IN FULL when they rescued him from being removed from office following his impeachment/Lewinsky scandal. We would do well to remember those days and how hillary clinton handled herself then. In spite of how she was humiliated by her husband, she still managed to blame the vast right wing conspiracy. She didn't show judgement and leadership then and there were no signs of it during the Petreaus hearings. She's simply not qualified. Last night's debate was a good reminder of how negative the clintons are. We need to ask her why the clinton administration pardoned 2 FALN terrorists. Why isn't anyone asking this?
Posted by: vicky jones | April 17, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Bush more accomplished than the Junior Senator from Illinois? You sir, are on CRACK. Crack, I say.
I hope they send you to Iraq. I'm sure you'd be proud to go.
Actually, I take that back. Wishing someone to die as cannon fodder for an unjust war covering for energy industry boondoggles is un-Christian. Then again I'm just a dumb liberal, so I'm way off base.
Posted by: sam the sham | April 17, 2008 at 09:28 AM
Watching the first 50 minutes of the debate last night, it became clear to me that the only thing the moderators wanted to due was attack Barack's character through association. And they may have succeeded. The pundits couldn't possibly allow this freshman senator, the only African-American in the senate, waltz through the nomination process, filling campaign venue after venue with rock star status, and get to the Whitehouse without being dragged through the mud. No DUI, No drug convictions, only self-admitted personal usage in this youth, no extra marital affairs, no criminal record, only record of personal and profound achievement. Those attributes had to be brought down to earth, because there is no way on earth that a black man of intellect, charisma, integrity, and honesty, could be the president of this country. Every minority has had to endure the decisions made by past presidents and have been lied to just to protect their own legacies. If Obama does not win the nomination, and then the Whitehouse, we can expect the dollar to continue to fall, and world trade will be trading with every other country except the US. And at 12B a month in Iraq, we'll be broke in four more years and it'll take 100 years before American can again call itself a super power. Erosion starts from within, i.e. Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire!
Posted by: Michael Matthews | April 17, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Hey "stone," do you realize that you completely contradicted yourself there?
Posted by: Greg | April 17, 2008 at 09:31 AM
George Stephanopoulos worked for the Clinton Admin. for gosh sake. Who did you think they were going to favor?
During the "debate" last night it got so rediculus that I was making fun of Charlie Gibson's tone of questioning in a room full of folks and the folks were dieing laughing.
That wasn't a debate, it was a Saturday Night Live skit with those dumb ass questions. It was essentially a night of, "when did you stop beating your wife" type questions.
To partially quote Clinton's favorite phrase this election season: "Shame on You" ABC.
All Stephanopoulos needed was little dunce cap to go with his little corner table. He could have used a booster chair too.
Is Chelsea running for President? I saw a lot more of her then I did of the other two. And why was the room filled with purple Umpa Lumpas? Did anyone else notice that?
Are they bitter Umpa Lumpas clinging to guns and religion now that the Candy Factory is closing?
Posted by: Greg | April 17, 2008 at 09:41 AM
Re: If he wins Obama will be one of the least accomplished presidents of my lifetime. Even GW, on paper, looks way more impressive.
Posted by: stone
That alone should tell you how much weight their accomplishments should hold. Obviously, looking good on paper doesn't make a good president.
Posted by: Josh | April 17, 2008 at 09:42 AM
"If he wins Obama will be one of the least accomplished presidents of my lifetime. Even GW, on paper, looks way more impressive."
Yeah - all that coke smoking, National Guard draft dodging, failed baseball team management, and failed governorship experience really paid off for us. And it continues - was there no learning curve for him?
Less maybe be more - no accomplishments are better than failed and harmful ones.
Posted by: Eugene R | April 17, 2008 at 09:47 AM
REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS? Of HILLARY?
What have you been smoking?
Posted by: clyde | April 17, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Apparently, Hillary has experienced every adventure known to man. How long before she claims she's also been shot out of a cannon?
Posted by: Ruth Greer | April 17, 2008 at 09:48 AM
REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS? Of HILLARY?
What have you been smoking?
Posted by: clyde | April 17, 2008 at 09:49 AM
In the Philadelphia debate, both Hillary and Obama regurgitated their familiar mantra that they would veto the falsely maligned Bush taxcuts which resuscitated the U.S. economy from the inherited Clinton recession; but, which Hillary and Obama say favor only the rich. That tired old populist ploy of "soak the rich". However , a brief review of IRS statistics related to post-Bush tax cut revenues reveals exactly the opposite. Specifically, the share of individual income taxes paid by the bottom 40% of American taxpayers, as a result of expanded child tax credits and earner income tax credits, was reduced from 0% to a -4%; and, took another ten million low income Americans completely off of the tax roles. That is, a very significant four(4) % decrease. On the other end of the scale, the tax burden on the top 20% of income earners, the so-called rich, increased to a full 85% of the total tax burden. For examples on the lower end of the scale, a Single Individual making 30K paid $8400 in taxes under Clinton; under Bush $4500. A married couple making 60K: under Clinton $16,800, under Bush $9000. So Hillary/Obamaspeak, an economic strategy that left our Nation in a RECESSION on the Clinton's departure from the White House, would damage the poor more then any other group. One can summarize this quite simply by noting that IF Hillary and Obama's Marxist philosophies of soaking the rich were valid, Communist societies throughout the world would be exorbitantly wealthy, in lieu of economic basket cases a' la Castro's Cuba. The same can be said of their forced plan for Socialized Medicine. A program which is failing miserably in such Nations as Canada and the United Kingdom. Canada, as just one example, is now experiencing a dramatic shortfall in physicians. Greg Neubeck
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | April 17, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Hilliary can't even run a campaign without screwing it up. Imagine how she'll run the country for four years if she becomes President!
Posted by: Doug Wine | April 17, 2008 at 09:52 AM
If you're a Dem,it's important not to be mislead by the MSM's financial interest in portraying this election as closer than it is. It's easy to regard McCain as sitting high on the hog while these two go at each other down below. But if you think back, before the Republican primaries were settled, the stark difference in turnout numbers between the parties hasn't gone away. Republicans want to forget that fact but most Dems are likely to feel that, having had to slog through the kind of primary they're experiencing, they're sure as heck going all out for a victory in November. I don't buy the crossover vote theory either - after sitting through a Republican convention and realizing the numbers are in their favor, most Dems are going to fall into line and vote with their party. I still don't think November is going to be even close.
Posted by: Frank | April 17, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Funny that some people post tomes when people will hardly read more than 3 lines
Posted by: Bruce Johnson | April 17, 2008 at 10:06 AM
ABC prime time slot would have been better served unless they too were participants in beating up on Obama for 45 minutes. We are not interested in bashing obama we are interest in our future, which include jobs, good economy, bring our troops home and get rid of the bush administration.
Posted by: cindy | April 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM
It's ABC, did anyone expect anything else? Fox is trying to spin it, too. I honestly don't know why they agreed to a debate on ABC to begin with, rather than some other network, but what do I know?
Lest anyone believe that this is just "liberal whining" (I'm a registered Republican and always have been...), go compare the news reports via Google news and see how out of touch with reality they are.
Posted by: Joe | April 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM
sam the sham I hope they send you and your family to ground zero NYC and than send u to the next city the terrorist will blow up so as you and your family are vaporized -you just keep talking about unjust wars - and if you elect one of your liberal jerks you just might get to know how lucky you been since 911 that you had a President with BALLS in the White House-
Posted by: joeyusa | April 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM
A lot of Democrats are mad at ABC and the two moderators of last night's debates, Gibson and Stephonoupolus. because they showed the two candidates for the Democrat Party's nomination to be among the worst candidates in the last 100 years.
Posted by: howard lohmuller | April 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Perhaps someone needs to check out the number of great Presidents we have had that had less experience than Senator Obama who has been in elected office for 7 years and in public service...let's see..how does Hillary count experience?.....for 28 years..
Posted by: Deanna Foster Katy, Texas | April 17, 2008 at 10:10 AM
It will be so refreshing to have a thoughtful, gracious, classy, intelligent, respectful, honest and articulate president in the White House. Hillary is good but routine and John McCain seems a little too unprdictable in temperment. Barack Obama is solid, steady, confident, knowledgable and strong with a clear set of moral values which guide him. We would be blessed to have this man as president.
Jim White
Posted by: Jim White | April 17, 2008 at 10:10 AM
I am happy from the comments above, that the people of this republic are finally realizing how they have been taken by the Hill and Bill road show lo these many years. These are the worst of my generation and to think they rose to great power by sleaze, heavy handedness, bullying and lying just sickens me. My beautiful country is crumbling and these two are the poster children to the post-decency era that was always America. Their "Up the establishment" values, the values of the radical Sixties Left, still courses through their veins, although they lie about being middle of the road.. Nonsense! Why isn't the press talking about Mrs. Clinton's treatment of the military aides that worked for her in the White House? That in itself would sink her...but no one talks about this issue. At any rate, Mr. Obama will be a great President and his wife, while firey and outspoken, is an honest and forthright woman who will make a terric First Lady. He is the man for these times. He will inspire youth to follow him into politics as it was under JFK and RFK..a lofty ambion one can attain to through hard work, honesty and high ideals. We need him very badly. I long for the day when the Clintons will be just a distant reminder of how we, even as good peole, can be led astray by smiling, fast-talking snakeoil salesmen who feed off the public trough. I have a feeling that this may be their swan song, that good will triumpth over these two. Superdelegates: Back Obama! And Al Gore, where is your endorsement to finally push Obama over the finish line?
Posted by: faye dolan | April 17, 2008 at 10:12 AM
And the newspapers and the networks wonder why their reader and viewership is tumbling. It is because of the crap that constitues reporting and opinion in our media. Not only do we have a George W. Bush presidency but we have a George W. Bush national media - in terms of intelligence, curiosity and integrity.
Posted by: Jake | April 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM
ABC moderator: "Senator Clinton, 6 out of 10 voters believe you are DISHONEST AND UNTRUSTWORTHY, how do you respond?"
OUCH!!
Posted by: Harry Crown | April 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM