New poll shows Barack Obama tanking in Pennsylvania

The first fresh poll results from Pennsylvania are in since Barack Obama's "bitter" comments about people in small towns exploded as a news story, and the findings could hardly be worse for the Democratic presidential contender.

Intriguingly, the man in charge of the survey said interviews with voters indicate Obama's tumble in the state has more to do with what the candidate himself has said were ill-chosen words than anything else.

The new poll by American Research Group -- conducted Friday, Saturday and Sunday -- gave Clinton 57% and Obama 37% (based on interviews with 600 Democrats, the survey has an error margin of plus-or-minus 4 percentage points). The 20-point margin is all the more dramatic because, just the week before, an ARG poll found the pair in a flat-out tie in Pennsylvania, each with 45%.

The previous findings had put the race closer than any others. And perhaps the new one exaggerates the bounce Clinton has gotten from the storm over Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fund-raiser. Other pollsters are in the field in Pennsylvania, and we eagerly await their results (an L.A. Times/Bloomberg poll of Democrats in the Keystone State -- as well as in North Carolina and Indiana -- will be ready mid-week).

Regardless, the New Hamphire-based ARG poll, may have identified a tactical worry for the Obama camp above and beyond the current controversy. Dick Bennett, head of the poll, told us today that even before the furor erupted, it appeared many Pennsylvania Democrats began to turn against Obama because they are simply sick and tired of seeing and hearing his ads.

Much as campaign consultants would be loath to agree, Bennett opined that a candidate "can spend too much money" on an ad campaign, and the saturation of Obama spots ...

in Pennsylvania appear to be a classic example of "overkill" that ultimately does harm.

Bennett also reported that some of the Pennsylvanians who his company contacted went on to complain about the substance of the ubiquitous Obama ads. They are "about him, not voters or what their concerns are," Bennett said. And Obama's comment on attitudes in small towns served to reinforce that feeling.

-- Don Frederick

Comments

[hinnis]

Yes, we do know what the media is trying to do with Obama; give him a free pass on just about anything, and shove him down our throats. Even outspending Hillary Clinton 4 to 1 he is still behind. Imagine how badly he would do without all that money from the Republicans.

[Lee FU]

If you changed your mind about what you heard a candidate say or did instantly without thinking it out yourself then you may be guilty of what you think others told you or what you read. I cannot say I am backing a candidate today and change my mind tomorrow. That makes me flaky. If a presidential candidate acts as such we call him or her flip flop so think very deep before you change your mind.

[DARIAND6]

Obama has no chance at winning this Presidential Election, with that being said I am not sure Hillary could win it. I know one thing though, alot of people who claim to be educated are voting for Obama without knowing what he stands for. Affirmative action is wrong, and your beloved Obama is a strong supporter of it. If you are caucasion and voting for Obama, you may need to ask yourself why am I voting for a man whos preacher and wife, have horrible things to say about America, and white Americans.

[Osama]

Hugh Chavez polling has obama winning PA with approx. 99.7% of the vote. Hillary at 7% and various other Dems at 5%

[RD]

Grasping at straws comes to mine here; Obama is an ego maniac and very arrogant Politician. Until recently, change has turned in Words, just Words…. We in small town America have figured this out more than a month ago! His rock star status and fame just went to his head and let him show us the truth of who he really is! The whole Rev Wright issue only confirmed it. What the Obama supporters and the media don’t get or the DNC for that matter, it is not about Rev. Wright or his views, as wrong as they may be. It is about how Obama handled that issue which was so reveling. It was the same with the Canadian issue. It wasn’t the issue as much as the lies and smooth smug answers and never taking responsibility that we find unfit in a Presidential candidate.

It is the same over and over again. Under the bus, Typical white, didn’t know about statements, not there, Ok knew about but was not in church, Only 5, Ok dozens, Ok general trend, I would have left but retiring, No meeting took place, ok a meeting took place but not about NAFTA, Ok NAFTA was mentioned but no talk of campaign rhetoric, on and on it goes! Farrakhan, Avery, McCulkin, William Ayers. This list is getting rather long isn’t it? NOW WE HAVE BITTER SMALL TOWN LAZY WHITE FOLK WHO ARE GUN TOTEN RELIGION LOVING RACIST……..

We the Democratic voters will make a statement if Obama becomes the nominee; this man is losing his electability as each day goes by. We the people (the Democratic base) will vote for McCain if Obama gets the Nominee. For a year that would seem virtually impossible for the Democrats to lose an election is becoming more evident each day that goes by. I would strongly hope the DNC makes the right choice. If not, we have 2012 to look forward to. By that time maybe Florida and Michigan will not be disenfranchised. It’s a sad time in Politics for a Democratic Voter………

[Popa]

Common on, this isn't even remotely believable: from even to a 20% swing in a week!! Either these pollsters are paid Climton operatives or else they need to go back to school.

[mattD]

I think Obama made a huge mistake by suggesting that people's cultural values, whether its religion or hunting or concerns about trade, are premised solely upon their bitterness, especially when it plays to an underlying stereotype. And because he said it behind closed doors at a fund raiser in one of the richest areas in San Francisco clearly indicates that those comments he made were patronizing and demeaning.

[Gary Washburn]

Does anyone who has lived through the last 3 elections think that there is any fundamental difference in politicians anymore? Obviously Obama and Hillary are doing themselves in over issues that really don't matter.
Obviously MCcain has crossed the boundry of being irrelevant. We will be left in the cold again with choices that don't matter. We are the sheep being led to be sheered and slaughtered.
Pay no attention to the man (men) behind the green curtain.

[naksk]

One should question ARG's credibility after such divergent poll results w. no basis....maybe they goofed in their calcs. first time or the second time or both times...

go check your calcs for both polls, ARG!

[june]

Listen up people here's the real deal...this is just another attemot at the clinton camp to smears and get ahead at the poll...it aint goin to happen...And if they think that the americans people are so stupid and blind to fall for their tactics and swing her way then I need to get a ticket of this world

[Andrew Austin]

The Gallup poll does not yet reflect the fallout from the comments. Gallup does a rolling poll. You will have to wait several days to see what happens nationally. Moreover, the Gallup poll in question is the one that asks Democratic and leaning-Democratic voters what they think, and, as we have seen, a lot of Democrats are marching merrily towards political suicide on November 4, 2008. The really important polling data is what the general election voter thinks. I will be shocked if they do not now believe or do not shortly come to the conclusion that Obama is an out-of-touch elitist and an intellectual lightweight.

Now, the comment about how the media wants to do in Obama is ridiculous. The media has been pro-Obama all the way. Some want him to win so they can run the headline that racism isn't a problem in America. It's a great story, one that appeals to their elite liberal sensibilities. Others want him to be the nominee in order to hang an albatross around the neck of the Democratic Party. That's the corporate side of the mass media.

For both these reasons, the media didn't want to cover the Reverend Wright story. I know this because I know they knew about it all along but wouldn't report it in a high profile and in-depth manner. The corporate media finally had to report on it because of the viral nature of the youtube-blog-email culture. And when the media was finally forced to report it, they did so in a way to minimize the fallout, even going so far as to praise Obama's superficial speech on race as historic. They helped him get through it (in the short term) that time. I don't know how well they can help him with his latest problem. You just don't treat working people as ignoramuses.

If it were not for Clinton and her surrogates pushing the problem with Obama's crackpot sociological analysis, there would be much less press on the matter. The media has been forthright about this. They won't independently vet Obama. So it's up to Clinton and concerned Democrats to vet him.

[Angel]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!! LOOK AWAY FROM THE SPINNING GLASSES HE HAS ON AND START SEEING THE REAL WORLD!!!! The mass media has put Obama on a pedestool behind glass from the get go and you think that because he said these horrible things about small town folk that no one should give a shit. TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK ON WHO YOU ARE DEFENDING. How about the wink wink with the canadian government???? What about throwing his grandmother under a bus??? Jeeze everytime Clinton blinks they are on her. Grow up and find something real to whine about. If your candidate is so wonderful he should be able to speak up and defend himself. Hillary always has.

[Screw Obama]

Hey you leftist losers! YOUR spin is not going to work! Obama's a loser just like YOU. Oh...are you feeling "bitter" now???

[Mitch Goldstein]

This ARG poll is not scientifically valid, and is not taken seriously by anyone who understands the polling process.

Check out http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11050/271/pollvalidity.htm. You will notice that ARG does not even come close to proving their samples and questions are valid. Their web site http://americanresearchgroup.com/ does not have the sample information OR the questions OR the usual scientific data that accompanies a real poll.

[Patrick]

Pennsylvania is the first of the polls to come in showing how OBAMA's "all about ME! attitude is going to close down his race for the White House.
A recent poll in Missouri taken by Time Warner showed Clinton at 65% and OBama at 23% in popularity!
He is ALWAYS playing the VICTIM! Who wants someone leading the country that is ALWAYS crying about his EGO being bruised!
Senator Clinton will be the nominee because she has the stamina and the determination - NOT a head full of college-age "what ifs"!

[S. Freud]

A classic case of psychological projection... OBAMA IS THE BITTER ONE!!!

[Julie]

LA TIMES. Thank you for always reporting the news and all the news...unbiased.

P.S. Did you know that USA Today's commentaries are not censored and un moderated. You should, too.

[alma ludivina]

Senator Obama is placing the money we supporters provide in the campaign as he suppose to.

The reason Mrs Clinton has not placed as much advertisemnt is because she rather keep the money from her supporters to pay half million dollars per speech to her husband and daughter.

Mrs. Clintion must place the money given by her supporters in the campain instead of holding it.

[Jodi]

It is about time that people see and hear the real Obama. I am a proud San Francisco Bay Arean who supports Hillary Rodham Clinton for her integrity, intelligence and support for the American People.

[rpafundi]

Hillary is married to a disbarred attorney cause he lied under oath while President. His wife has this same trait. Liar, Liar, Liar. They are not happy with the 100million they made off schmucks like their supporters. They want a Clinton coronation and the Queen on the throne.

[Andrew Noethe]

It is amazing to me that we are going to elect our president based on misspoken comments (by all 3 candidates), rather than on what their positions are on important issues.

This is what we get for having a presidential campaign that is over 12-months long, in a system built around two parties.

[Nick]

I suppose the idiotic husband of Hillary with his lying rhetoric of Bosnia fire bodes well for the people of Pennsylvania?

Yeah, people of Pennsylvania are bitter, after being left behind by the previous 4 administrations, yeah that's right... including the Clintons, they now think some lying Clinton who can't even pay her bills for her campaign staff and that even includes the health insurance bills... these people in Pennsylvania think they'll get something from her?

Wake up Pennsylvanians... Where were the Clintons last year, last decade?

[abqcleve]

ARG is a discredited "polling" firm. Impossible to find reliable data about who funds them, but they consistently poll Republican issues and have been identified by neutral parties as consistently under-representing Obama's support (http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/american-research-group-2008-primary-grade-022308001.html)

Instead, Gallup daily tracking reports Obama's doing fine (http://www.gallup.com/poll/106504/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Numbers-Holding-Strong.aspx)

[Gaias Child]

Awful, awful. What Obama needs to do now is decide whether it is more important to win or to speak his vision authentically.

If it is more important to win then he has to, apparently, get down to the Clinton level and fight on her terms, which are truly worthy of Karl Rove and Tonya Harding.

if it is more important to speak his vision authentically, then he needs to do that, win or lose.

His vision includes bringing relief and renewal to the very people whose lives have been shattered by the manufacturing all moving offshore, That's been underway for nearly three decades. That is what he is talking about.

Now he has to pick whether to speak his vision or do combat in the Clinton zone. I'd rather he speak his vision. He's already an inspiration and a national figure much loved (perhaps not by everyone) so who cares if he's president. He's the message anyway. But he's also the president that has authenticity and vision to offer.

Says me

[JH]

Let's all accept that the words Senator Obama chose to express himself could have been better. There is a huge difference between this gaffe and the outright fabrication that Senator Clinton tried to pass off numerous times regarding her meeting on the tarmac in Bosnia. Is her memory so flawed that she really remember this taking place?

Honestly, do you feel Sen Obama is an elitist or rather Mrs. Clinton doing whatever she has to do to improve her numbers. I have never been more repulsed by a member of my own party. We are going to trust someone like this to act in our best interest .....? Not me.

[joe johnson]

This guy Frederick is so far in the tank for HRC it's embarassing...

[Olan Black]

Words are funny things, we can use them to communicate thoughts, hurt feelings, and we can also twist them into what we want them to mean.

despite the words, I look at the message and the meaning behind it. Can anyone honestly say that Barrack Obama wanted to insult the people of Pennsylvania?

Can we honestly say that Hilliary Clinton actually though she was being fired at by sniper fire? she even added conjuncture to it, by describing the plane having to do evasive maneuverers , and made this statement 3 times.

which one was a lie, and which one is being twisted?

Bottom line is this, 2 years from now which person will keep us in this same mess of an economy, war, and unemployment? (who voted for NAFTA)

Better wake up or 2 years from now, things will be uglier

[alma ludivina]

It sounds incongruent

On the compassion forum.

When Senator Clinton arrived to the forum she received only an aplause.

When Senator Obama arrived it was an ovation, everybody stand it up and turned their head and body to welcome him, while she was totally ignored.

she left silently. It was obvious, please re-play that momentum on the TV?

[Mani]

The public is finally beginning to see that Barack Obama is a hypocrite. Its true what they say about smooth talkers.... that they are always trying to con somebody. Hillary is the real deal. She may not be able to deliver a speech like Barack but she is real and does not say demeaning things to an audience of rich people behind the backs of hard working blue collar workers.

[Jeff in L.A.]

To Albert Mezetti:

What planet are you living on? The Los Angeles Times is one of the most left-wing daily newspapers in the country. How do I know? Hmmm...I've lived in L.A. for 18 years.

Saying that it is republican shows your complete ignorance.

Please, have a clue before you post.

[Peter Nanula]

The media, as directed by Hillary, are having a field day with Obama's on-target comments about why certain voters focus on social issues when economic times are bad. Hillary is up against the wall, with no way to win legitimately, and now there is no reason in the Clinton Calculus - which should be scary for voters - why NOT to try to blow this up into a campaign-changing event of some kind.

It won't work. Barack may lose a few votes in the upcoming Pennsylvania primary, from the less educated who are swayed by these media outbursts. But the transcendent nature of his campaign, its message of real change, its connection with new and young voters, and his clear difference in approach and personal philosophy from the hardball partisan Clintons, will continue to roll to victory in June - when the super-delegates confirm his nomination by the most states, the most votes, and the most delegates.

[JP32]

Please, people, THINK for a few seconds.

OK, let us suppose for the sake of discussion that Obama is actually an elitist, and this comment revealed that (nevermind the fact that after graduating Harvard Law, he went to work for community organizers instead of writing his own ticket at a high paid law firm).

In contrast, you have HRC, who is demonstrby a serial liar, and will say anything to get elected (starting with being fired at age 28 from her Watergate commission job for lying and mishandling documents, and latest with the Bosnia BS).

So, which would you rather have, a candidate that is elitist, honest, and stands by his words, or a candidate that is a serial liar and will say or do anything to get elected, so you can't tell where she actually stands?

[Charn]

Real Clear Politics and most national media outlet do not use the American Research Group's polling data.


Zogby
Quinnipiac
Susquehanna Temple Univ.
InsiderAdvantage
Public Policy Polling
Rasmussen
SurveyUSA

In the new American Research Group poll, Clinton now leads Obama 57 percent to 37 percent

[Gangwise]

OK...this has been the "BIG" news story from the Clinto Camp for the last 3 days? Talk about wringing out a washcloth non-story to the very last drop.

I can only imagine if HRC was our prresident and had a MAJOR CRISIS on her hands. Would she let the news media come to aid in developing a "strategy" to defendad this counrty.

World leaders of terrorist nations must be licking their chops, waiting for the American People to elect a "paper tiger" leader----and then have at us.

By then.......it's too late.

[sunnyside]

And you thought you heard the last from Clinton's hypocracies"?

"During the 1990s, I cannot remember being asked about immigration... Why? Because the economy was working... And average Americans didn't have to go around looking for someone to blame."
Hillary Clinton

--From Time Magazine November 28, 2007 as reprted by Joe Klein.

Blame vs cling which is worse? Blame has that whiff of xenophobia don't you think? whose the generalist now?

[LogicalThinker]

obama is all talk. jus because one can talk well does not mean one can do it.

how he will be doing things are never clearly explained.
he is so far from realities. about iraq war ( which is no war ) bout trade policies. a naive in world politics can talk like that.

he is the agent of change ? is it a good change ? how so ?

it is good to dream but one has to wake up in real life too.

[Jake]

Dream on LA Times. When you wake up get started in writing Hillary's epitaph. Obama will be the president despite your desperation.

[Harry Tichbaum]

If you actually listen to Obama's "bitter" speech (on YouTube), you will be hard-pressed to make the claim that Obama comes across as arrogant or elitist. He was simply trying to explain why rural white folks find it difficult to overcome their cynicism about and bitterness toward a government that has consistently enacted legislation (e.g. NAFTA) that has eviscerated small town and industrial America. Obama worded his ideas poorly (a few sentences out of millions spoken over the past year), but the general, underlying truth of his observations are valid, especially with regard to anti-immigrant sentiment. That is a far cry from KNOWINGLY lying about fleeing sniper fire in Bosnia. Clinton lies repeatedly yet people still vote for her; Obama states the bitter truth (as he and many other people see it) and he gets villified. I think a vast majority of Americans are ready to elect a truth-teller this time around, as difficult as it is to swallow those bitter little pills.

[Ed]

I'm a liberal democrat who consistently votes left and proud of it! But Hillary and Bill...please I don't even want to imagine that team back in the White House. Sorry, it's a personal thing. I just can't stand Bill's "aw shucks" remarks for another minute. And Hillary, you lost me at "I don't do cookies".

Funny, Obama's comments ring true to me--I believe the same thing about many Americans, but not necessarily rural, just uneducated ones. He's absolutely right, but he just named the wrong group. I know many rural Americans who work hard, have college educations, and research the issues. Many support Obama, more support McCain. None support Hillary...well not the educated ones at least.

I want Obama to win, and I can just barely stomach McCain if he gets a decent middle of the road VP who has no connection to neocons. But I can't pull the switch for Hillary.

[Jane]

"Is Clinton’s Pennsylvania Lead Really 20 Points?" - Wall Street Journal

[Percy11]

Wow. . the hate spewing over based on a poll result. Sounds like many people vying to be a speech writer for Obama.... you are on your way because many of you sound alot llike him!

[tommy jonq]

well, he's right, but that's the problem. a lot of us working class people really are more proud of our nascar beer coolers than we are of our children's futures. that's why so many of us vote for so-called conservatives who make phony baloney promises about gay marriage and abortion, regardless of whether or not they actually DOanything about those issues (or should.) and, of course, although no one on tv will say it, it's just one more convenient excuse not to vote for a black person, regardless of whether he or she would make a better president.

[earnest]

Let me get this straight. Rural voters who esteem God and guns have twice elected a rich, East Coast establishment pampered cheerleader with a trust fund and a toy Texas ranch, and we're supposed to believe they don't like OBAMA because he's ELITE? What a desperate piece of spin! And let's get real - whether they are BLACK or WHITE, folks having it tough and being passed by ARE bitter, do look to God, and hold onto their guns, and what's wrong with that? It's the elite who put their noses up and whine, because it's not PC to acknowledge THAT America. And for all you knuckleheads scared about communistst, just remember the first thing Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao and all the other Red butchers did was put guns in the hands of the peasants and hunt down and kill the intellectuals and elitists. Study some history before you compare Obama to Engles and Marx.

[Ron]

ok.. First of all shame on HIlary Clinton for helpiong John McCain tear down another Democratic Candidate. This is twice that I can recall where she has done this, She is making it hard to support her if she is the nominee.

Second, Senator Obama said nothing wrong or out of place. The American People need to wake up. People are bitter about what is going on, People do cling to their guns in trying times and to their religion. Those are FACTS. It happens in Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, etc., etc. etc. The ONLY reason he referenced Pennsylvania is because that is the upcoming primary.

Third, Hilary in her attack on what Obama said basically said the same thing, but put a positive spin on it. Maybe because the Clinton administration failed to truly do anything the first time at bat.

Fourth, Lets stay focused on the issues at hand. The only reason Pastor Wright is on blast is because Obama is winning. His church affiliation has nothing to do with his views on America. That type of belief on solidifies the fact that Americans have cog mentality where people have no ability to think on their own, or create their on beliefs and views.

Pound for pound if you lay out Senator Obama's political plan and compare it to Senator Clintons, Obama would win, I admit it would be close, but he would win. Then lay that in comparison to Sen. McCain.. Oh boy.. Talk about blowout favoring Obama.

Come on people lets focus on picking the right candidate based on their views and position, not the one who has the most favorable sound bites

[reason]

What we need is Colin Powell. He would be the true uniter. Obama is just a charlatan. He fooled the dems long enough to get the nomination but he is going to lose big in November.

Why do the dems do this to themselves every 4 years?

[Carolyn Barnes]

I, too, do not believe your poll. If people are so ready to pounce on Obama's comment that some are calling "elitist", have they not had any regard for his upbringing? I bet he doesn't have $110 million. AND, what about the BLATANT lies both Hillary and Bill have told about her landing in Bosnia, and he says her comments were at night (when she was tired), but in fact, they were early morning comments. The Clintons will do WHATEVER it takes to win, including selling their souls.

[Matt]

Hillary misleads voters. Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA." Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress. On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region." The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement." In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

Who is the elitist? Hillary cares more about the health care industry than the health of people. Nobody can argue that the biggest problem with health care in the United States are pharmaceuticals and insurers. Hillary Clinton became the second largest recipient in the Senate of health care industry contributions. "As she runs for re-election to the Senate from New York this year and lays the groundwork for a possible presidential bid in 2008, Mrs. Clinton is receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers and insurers. Nationwide, she is the No. 2 recipient of donations from the industry, trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership." Raymond Hernandez and Robert Pear, "Once an Enemy, Health Industry Warms to Clinton," New York Times, July 12, 2006. Lastly, her vote for the Iraq war was the greatest error in judgement for the health of thousands of U.S. men and women in uniform. Not to mention the health of millions of Iraqis.

[Ken]

If you are the voters who are going to decide what direction our country heads in the future, than Heaven help us! You liberal people are so idealistic and can't see the real world for what it is and who is in it. Most of you haven't fought for a true cause in your whole life, so you have to pick some issue and think you know about it. Wake up and realize the world is full of people who want to hurt us and they are just licking their chops hoping that Hussein Obama gets elected. I never thought I would say that I would rather see another Clinton, especially Hillary, get elected, but I would over this food Obama. The whole reason we are in the mess we are in now is because of the eight years of stick my head in the sand, or a girls vagina, and not recognize the danger in the world. Lord knows you wouldn't want to have some courage and stand up for what is right, even if there is a cost.

[Christopher Xaphakdy]

As an Asian American person, it is so laughable how Sen. Clinton and Sen. MacCain characterized him as "elitist and out of touch". If you read both Senators' biographies what sort of backgrounds they both grew up with? You will be amazed. Both were from very priviledged background politically, socially and economically with well-connected to the upper social class in the United States. Who is really elitist and out of touch? Give me a break as an Asian American's point of view. I don't think Sen. Obama actually fit into that description at all. I think Sen. Obama is much better in touch with common peoples than Sen. Clinton and McCain.

What Sen. Obama said about " bitterness" is so true and factual. It is undeniable to many peoples in state of Penn who had lost their jobs, which were only source of income to pay for their bills and food on the table. If you were not bitter, you had to be a millionaire like both Sen. Clinton earned 109 millions. If I were bitter with having earned $109 millions , I had to be a crazy person. I believe in my whole life time, I will even not be able to earn even one million. If Sen. Clinton can not recognize the existence of the working class peoples' bitterness only optimism and hope, she must represent for the specifical interest groups who have funded her campaign.

The urgent issues of primary election in State of Pen should be more than just one dramatized word of "bitterness". Why has she spent so much time to capitalize the "bitterness"? It is so irrelevant topics for ordinary citizens who have been struggling so economically to meet daily end needs--food on table and ability to pay your bills.

I guess maybe a bitterness of economic inequality or hardship that people in the State of Penn have been faced with that she has tried to help as part of her proposed policy can be accommodated with another free trade like the one passed under her husband presidency with her strong support as well as another initiative under her senior strategist that has been fighting for in the back door. Give me a break! how Sen. Clinton and McCain considered him as an elitist and out of touch? Just give me a break from an Asian American person's point of view. People should look at their last year's W2 forms and conclude with that how many digit numbers contain in their W2 that is my conclusion who is really elitist and out of touch? You did not need to offer your apology. What you had said it is so so factual and true--undeniable.

[freedom_diva]

M I C H E L E O B A M A . . . F I R S T L A D Y ?

In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack
Obama stated that America was a nation founded on “crime and hatred”.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were “ineradicably racist”.
The 1985 thesis, titled 'Princeton Educated Blacks and the Black
Community' was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.

Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to 'Whites at Princeton , it
often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first...' However,
it was reported by a fellow black classmate, “If those 'Whites at
Princeton' really saw Michelle as one who always would 'be Black first,'
it seems that she gave them that impression”.

Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms “separationist” and
“integrationist” when describing the views of black people.

Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a “separationist” view of
race. “By actually working with the Black lower class or within their
communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better
understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless
about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to
their plight.” Obama writes that the path she chose by attending
Princeton would likely lead to her 'further integration and/or
assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only
allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full
participant.' Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.

Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America ,
but she elevates black over white in her world. Here is another passage
that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:

“There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community,
I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and
future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. “
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s
first lady that will elevate black over white in America ?

The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative
action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.

“Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and
academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students
comprising the bulk of their enrollments.” The conclusion of her thesis
is alarming.

Michelle Obama’s poll of black alumni concludes that other black
students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But
rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with
our common American culture more than they value the color of their
skin. “I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite
the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the
educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow,
the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with
the black community. However, these findings do not support this
possibility.” Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist
questionnaire? Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for
input.

Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see
Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted
with one another. The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts
and world view seen through a race-based prism.

This is a very divisive view for a potential first lady that would do
untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama
administration. Michelle Obama’s intellectually refined racism should
give all Americans pause for deep concern.

Now maybe she’s changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to
grind with America. Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over
her obviously racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it
will. But it shouldn't.