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Clinton and Obama bring their big fight to Big Sky Country tonight

Montana is a very large place, only slightly smaller than California with fewer residents than Bakersfield and San Francisco combined. High school football teams charter planes to reach playoff games there.

And, as a first lady named Hillary Clinton was told during a Montana hearing for her dJust another ordinary stunning sight in the immense state of Montana where New York Senator Hillary Clinton and Illinois Senator Barack Obama struggle against each other today for delegates toward the Democratic presidential nomination at the National Convention in Denver in Augustisastrous health care reform initiative in the early '90s, the state has three times as many bovine residents as human ones.

It also has some of the most stunning scenery, nicest neighbors and purest air anywhere. And it's a cliche for Montanans to hear first-time visitors who think an hour's drive is a long one get off the airplane, look around and say, 'wow, what a pretty place.'

“This is some pretty country out here," Barack Obama said today. He's leading in the polls in Montana and campaigning there for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination come August down the West's Rocky Mountain spine a ways in Denver.

There are just 17 pledged delegates at stake in Montana, one of the last two states holding Democratic primaries, on June 3. There are nine superdelegates, each of them highly coveted by these two cityfolks who've come a-calling on a Saturday that would be spring anywhere else. But every breathing Democratic delegate counts these days.

Montanans alike -- Republican, Democrat, Libertarian and to-hell-with-them-all -- are....

unaccustomed to the nation thinking of them as consequential in any way except for sharing coincidental names with a pop singer named Hannah.

Fact is, the Treasure State, besides being the get-away home for countless celebrities like Mary Hart, Tom Brokaw and Andie MacDowell, also produced natives like statesman Mike MaHannah Montana is no relation to the state of Montana where Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama battled April 5, 2008 for delegates for the Democratic presidential nomination, though both Montanas are rather prettynsfield, broadcaster Chet Huntley, author Ivan Doig, actress Myrna Loy and stoic hero Gary Cooper.

Montana voters have not seemed to matter much in national elections. The reality, however, is that without little old Montana's three electoral votes going for George W. Bush in 2000, it would have been some two-bit swamp like Florida that would not have mattered.

“One thing I hope you know about me is that I don’t quit," Clinton today told an audience of Montanans, who like that kind of message. “I don’t quit on you, and I don’t quit on us." The state certainly liked her husband through two presidential elections until the total political destruction there of Hurricane Monica.

(UPDATE: Loyal Ticket reader Don correctly points out that Bill did not eke out a win in 1996, losing to Dole-Kemp by a narrow 11,730 votes.)

The stakes this year for Democrats have drawn them out in droves even in Montana before the spring thaw. The state’s annual Democratic Party dinner, normally a draw for about 600 people, 596 of them in boots or immense buckles, is expecting 4,000 tonight.

“We may have to come back to Missoula," Obama told a crowd in the liberal university community. “No doubt about it." He's just being polite, of course. In the general election the closest any presidential nominee of either party will get to Montana is 35,000 feet overhead on the way to or from Seattle.

It'll be the Democratic and GOP V.P. nominees, if anyone, who visit that vast place that sent the nation's first female to Congress, a pacifist Republican named Jeannette Rankin, who went on to become the only representative to vote against U.S. entry into both World Wars.

In June when Montana is finished voting and the ground is almost finished thawing, one of these two Democrats may be finished too.

So if they're smart tonight after the dinner and on their way back out to the airport on the south side of dirty old Butte, they'll stop seeking voters for a change and look up at that big sky and more stars than the average person from anywhere else could ever imagine exist.

(UPDATE: Under the heading of "What state am I in now?" Obama in his remarks at the state dinner tonight seemed to make a mistaken reference to Montana as a caucus state.

(According to wire service reports, the Illinois senator said, "Some people have been saying these caucus states out west don't count that much. I don't know about you, but I think they're pretty important. And I'm tired of people saying that some states don't count. I think every state counts."

(Problem is, Montana had a caucus for the Republicans and Mitt Romney won with Ron Paul second. But for Obama's party, it's a primary election. On June 3. Hopefully, he'll get some sleep before then.)

-- Andrew Malcolm and Mark Silva

Mark Silva writes for the Swamp of the Chicago Tribune Washington bureau.

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what a sick lady hilly is, she's so deep in lies and such a sad story. gave 10% to their own chariety big deal . when she falls i don't think she will be able to get up.

As much as I'm thrilled that there is a story in the LA Times about Montana and putting the beautiful picture from Glacier Park on the page, I'm also embarrassed to inform you that Montana only voted for Clinton once. They (I wasn't old enough to vote) voted for Dole in '96 and Clinton only one in '92 because Perot got about a third of the vote. We're getting better though and there is still honestly a chance Obama could win this state. Especially if he chose a western Governor like Richardson. (We're a very white state, but race doesn't matter much. My Dad leans republican and he still wishes that Condeleeza Rice had run)


(Good catch, Don. You're absolutely right. Shoulda known better. Will fix. Thanks for reading.)

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Andrew MalcolmAndrew Malcolm's immigrant parents repeatedly stressed the importance of active participation in a democracy. Early lessons included learning the alphabetical list of states by watching televised roll calls of national political conventions. That childhood exposure led to a lifelong fascination with politics, including 40-plus years of covering them and a brief stint practicing them as press secretary to Laura Bush in 1999-2000.

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