Now, about that Texas GOP surprise for Hillary Clinton

One week ago at about this time of day we posted an item here headlined: "Do Texas Republicans plan a surprise for Clinton and Obama?"

It speculated on the possibility of Republican voters in the Lone Star state, faced with an uninteresting, essentially-decided contest between John McCain and Mike Huckabee, crossing over to make mischief in the Democratic primary by voting for Hillary Clinton to prolong the Democrats' damaging intra-party struggle for several more weeks. We'd heard rumors about this and the Dallas Morning News had written about the possibility.

Then, on his Monday broadcast, conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh with his national audience of some 13 million aggressively pushed the idea to his listeners in Texas. Bill O'Reilly, among others, also talked about the possibility on his national radio program, but did not advocate such tactics.

By now, some of you may have heard, that Clinton did pull off....

a popular vote win over Barack Obama in Texas which, combined with her wins in Rhode Island and Ohio, revived her campaign and fundraising and made Pennsylvania's primary on April 22 the newest of many days of decisive decision for Democrats, while McCain clinched his nomination and moved on to begin organizing nationally.

Now, Susan Davis over at the Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire has found evidence among some Democrats of possibly enough GOP hijinks to make a difference in Texas. Only 9% of voters in the Democratic primary there were Republican and Obama, as he has elsewhere, drew more of them than Clinton.

But in Texas the margin was much closer than it had been in other states. It was 53% for Obama and 46% for Clinton in Texas, but as recently as Wisconsin it was 72% Obama to 28% for Clinton and in Virginia 72% to 23%.

Davis also interviewed one precinct worker who personally tracked dozens of participants in the Democratic balloting who proudly identified themselves as Limbaugh voters, Republicans crossing over.

Clinton won the Texas vote with 50.9%, compared to 47.4% for Obama, or roughly a 100,000-vote difference. Was the Republican vote the margin of Clinton's victory? Hard to say, but it certainly added to her margin in what was a huge psychological boost, even though under Texas' cockamamie primary/caucus system Obama may actually end up with more convention delegates. 

It's not so much that the conservative broadcasters tried to help McCain, whom they have their own doubts about, as it is to force Democrats to fight each other longer, using up valuable resources, energies and precious days of general election planning while perhaps engendering harder feelings among the eventual losing side.

As the Republicans for Obama website complained, "Hillary Clinton owes her political life to Rush Limbaugh."

But under the category of "be very careful what you wish for":

Wouldn't it be a stunning historical irony if Clinton, who's worked hard to adhere closer to the all-important general election political center than Obama, won the nomination in August and the election in November, all thanks to this vast right-wing conspiracy that briefly swallowed its hate of her in March to save her bacon in Texas?

-- Andrew Malcolm

Comments

[Tyrone Waters]

I like the caucus format because it allows the more educated and dedicated voter to have a more influential voice in the voting process. Democracy only muddies the waters in primary elections by letting apathetic citizens a voice the process. We should be a country run by the intelligent and driven. Obama/Oprah '08

[Anon]

When Sen. Obama gets Republican votes in Democratic primaries, the media hails it as a sign of his crossover appeal. But when Sen. Clinton gets Republican votes, it is part of a plot. Ahhh, evenhandedness.

[Randy]

Reading the tea leaves after the fact is not what tea leaves are used for. ;)

Hillary's Texas Victory is simple to understand. South Texas responded in a "HUGE" way for her ... The hispanic vote broke 75-25 in her favor.

There is you tea leaf my friend.

[Eric]

This may have worked for Democrats voting for Romney in Michigan to keep him in the race, but in this case, nobody could have been eliminated and Hillary was going to proceed either way.

[WeC]

It's so stupid it's scary. But then again, Texas did gave us George Bush Jr.

[DNC is for sale]

There was a recent poll and 51% of americans Hate/ Dislike Hilary Clinton.
The woman is a thief and is power hungry!!!!!!
She only won texas and ohio by appealing to the underdogs of american society.
They don't know that this woman has a case in california for fraud with her husband Bill Clinton.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868 fraud trial

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm?csp=34 ( clintons block release of records)

American Society is being held hostage by this disgusting people.
I personally plan to vote for a republican or for Obama!!!!!!!!

[Lebonto]

The aid was generous to Hillary when she called her a "monster". She is Democracy's worst nightmare!

[electxyz]

When Hillary won, all pundits say she won by negatives. When Obama won, they say he is inspiring. When Republicans voted for Obama, they say Obama attracts Republicans and independance, when they voted to Hillary, it's because they want to prolong demo's race. What a crap! Show me the EVIDENCE! Just shut up, let voters decide themselves.

Hillary is a FIGHTER, American RIGHT now NEEDS a fighter. Vote with your conscious.

I think it's time for Obama put his ego aside. It will be great if he starts thinking Clinton-Obama ticket. First it’s good for Demos, second it's good for himself, and last it's good for American People. He is 46. If he can help Clinton to be a GOOD president, after 8 years, it will be his turn. At that time, he is only 54 with 8 years Washington Politics. He keeps saying he wants different Washington politics. But that's RISKY for American right now, EVEN IF he can deliver it. You have to KNOW IT before DESTROY IT. If you don't know it, you just simply can not destroy that old system, a 300 YEARS GUERRILLA. THAT’S THE RISK AMERICAN SHALL NOT TAKE.
I bet Clinton will make the country back into track in both economy and world image, and we will see bright light again. Then it will be also sure that Obama can follow Clinton to be First African-American President. At that time, HE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE MY VOTE.

[Rhoda Penmark]

Well. well, well.

Given that Obama's in the process of having won the caucuses in Texas by more than a few percentage points, why won't the media ADMIT NOW that OBAMA won more delegates in Texas, and therefore HAS WON TEXAS?????? Hillary FELL SHORT in delegates, even with all her filthy votes from the Republicans!

[Luke Gilmore]

Rush Limbaugh understands that Hillary's "negatives," will make it impossible for her to ever win a general election. She is divisive and corrosive. How much longer will her venom be able to paralyze the media- and the country? For more read Barbara's Blog

http://ehrenreich.blogs.com/barbaras_blog/2007/06/who_is_hillary_.html

Please: no more Clintons in our White House- at 3 AM or at any other time.

[FJ Stratford]

Oh Please, the reason why Democrats abandones Obama is that when they asked him about Rezko, he ran away stuttering sayinf something like "We ran out of time"....

And now, even his stand on Iraq is apparently a way of hoodwinking people - saying one thing to Texans and then going off to an international audience admitting that he wont do as he promised to do.

Same with NAFTA.

Texans are a tough crowd. AND TEXANS, ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATIC TEXANS DONT LIKE TO BE HOODWINKED.

[drband36]

Well said.

Sen. Clinton's Texas pseudo-win (the primary, not the caucuses --- came courtesy of cross-over Republicans.

Why? They want the perverse pleasure of "taking her down" in November, rather than letting the Democrats make their own decisions. Limbaugh, Coulter, and Hannity are going a little too far this time...

Barack Facts: Fast Obama Facts vs. Falsehoods
http://www.barackfacts.blogspot.com
Hillary Facts: She stoops to conquer
http://www.kitchensink08.blogspot.com/

[Hillary All the Way]

It doesn't matter if they pick Obama or Hillary, the damage done by Obama has already been done. He single handedly destroyed the unity of the Democrats when he first started attacking Hillary in 07 and unless Hillary and Obama are on the same ticket you can say hello to President McCain.

[TXCourtney]

The key word in Malcolm's last statement is "briefly." The same group of rabid Anti-Hilary Republicans that won her the primary will of course be out in force against her in November. Her "Big State Strategy" is a rediculously flawed strategy:

She'll win New York and California, but so will any Democrat.

She'll win New Jersey because she's from New York.

She'll win Ohio if the Republicans vote for her again--which they won't.

She'll win Florida if McCain is barred from campaigning there.

She'll win Michigan if she's the only one on the ballot (and it will still be close).

She'll win Texas when Hell freezes over.

[TXCourtney]

The key word in Malcolm's last statement is "briefly." The same group of rabid Anti-Hilary Republicans that won her the primary will of course be out in force against her in November. Her "Big State Strategy" is a rediculously flawed strategy:

She'll win New York and California, but so will any Democrat.

She'll win New Jersey because she's from New York.

She'll win Ohio if the Republicans vote for her again--which they won't.

She'll win Florida if McCain is barred from campaigning there.

She'll win Michigan if she's the only one on the ballot (and it will still be close).

She'll win Texas when Hell freezes over.

[joseph]

that is what I knew all along the only way this monster won Texas it is because of the republican, that shows how vulnerable this what so called woman is on the november election , she will never be president as an independent i rather vote for Nader than this monster

[Paul]

What kind of spin this is. Reps vote for Obama 53% to 47% in Texas, and you are saying that they are helping Clinton.
It is Obama is the one who owe to the Reps his political fortune.

(As the item points out, he did get more Republican crossovers than she did, though he still lost thepopular vote. What's interesting is that for some reason this time his normal proportion of Republican voters was way down from his share in previous states. Noticeably down.)

[PulSamsara]

Barack Obama has the strength and moral fortitude to grow with America into a new era. Clinton has nothing but the same old tired politics we have lived with for far too long. She is the Rovian antithesis - opposite in parallel...the yin to the yang of the dark machine. I will vote against the democratic party for the first time in 20 years if she steals the nomination. I have voted for her family 3 times and finally saw the light when she chose the 'politically expedient' choice of voting us into Iraq. I've simply had enough. - Enough.

[Black Sheep]

I think the GOP would take credit for rain in Texas. Does anyone seriously think that fully 100,000 republicans jumped up and ran to the polls to vote for Hillary Clinton? Please.

She was ahead in Texas early on, then according to the polls she lost her lead. However, according to at least 200,000 Hispanic immigrants, she had not lost the lead, and that's what put her over the top, not a few Rush Limbaugh listeners.

[john jay]

this is very biased analysis. obama got so much help from republican cross-overs in the past primaries and now he's complaining? the republicans know they can't take down hillary. they've been fighting her for too long and she's still standing strong, don't self-destruct, democrats. don't take down the only qualified and promising candidate, hillary, for the republicans.

[AgentTofu]

Yes, it would be ironic if what this article states at the end came to pass. However, mathematically, it is impossible for her now. Obama is too far ahead to catch, and Wyoming today and Mississippi on Tuesday will only widen the gap.

What this article doesn't mention is that Obama won the caucus in Texas, and thus won Texas in total delegates. Hillary needed blowout victories, and failed to produce as such.

Obama will be the nominee, and it will play out as such.

[Daniel Rosenstark]

We assume that the GOP knows the effects of prolonging the "party struggle" amongst Democrats. However, a close primary for the Democrats merely reflects the strength of both candidates. There is sufficient time for party unification behind the winner after the primaries. Both parties should spend more time on real issues than on questionable "hijinks."

Dan
www.DVDs4theSAT.com
Complete SAT prep course in a 12 DVD set

[Michael Levinson]

It is amazing that the media kept talking about the most qualified person for the job of president...but never focused on that individual. He is out of the race now and hopefully we will get the next best!

[phillygirl]

OK, but ... perhaps you have heard? obama has almost certainly won texas. it kinda weakens your story line, but maybe rush's voters only got HRC another delegate or two. they didn't hand her the state.

[TC]

It's premature to think about Hillary winning insincere Republican support as a formula for success in November. The consensus remains that Barack Obama offers the best prospects for a substantive change of course if elected in November:

http://acropolisreview.com/2008/02/endorsements-of-barack-obama.html

[dmorris]

The Fat, Foul Mouthed Fool Limbaugh who revels in political mischief making ought to tend to his own hypocrisy and health issues as a pugilistic pain pill pusher who condemns others having the same affliction he does.. It is sad indeed that conservatives look to such blow hards on right wing talk radio for their inspiration. While it is valid to strike a crossover vote to influence the opposition party's elections, I agree that it risks getting what you have wanted for so long, a general election battle with Hillary Clinton. Only this time, don’t count on dredging up all the old Ken Starr inquisition attacks on Hillary, a different and independent Clinton in a different time. You don’t have a Ronald Reagan candidate for 2008, rather an aging John McCain who while an American hero, has hitched his wagon with the failed Bush Presidency something making him vulnerable to any of the Democratic Party’s top two Presidential candidates. John McCain is one-dimensional and counting as Bush did on scaring the public into fearing another 9/11 attack by Islamic fascists. In 2008, you better bring a fuller platform of new policies, starting with a plan for economic revival, than we now hear from Senator McCain. Learn a little more about economics, macro and micro, learn about the impacts of Fiscal and Monetary policies on the overall economy, and learn about how the enormously expensive, multi-trillion dollar war in Iraq and Afghanistan are dragging down America economically from within, probably exactly the game plan of the despised Osama bin Laden. You have to fight this war on many more levels, Mr. McCain, and getting our country well again economically and internationally is more important than ever realized.

[cm grigg]

You don't pay much attention. There is a tight relationship between The Clintons The Bushes and John Mcain. Hillary and her power base would rather her sabotage an Obama presidency should she lose the primary. In any (quasi civil) primary in the history of america she would have dropped out by now. Notice how the tone has gone so ugly. It's like a good basketball team playing a less talented team the lesser team tries to foul and make the game sloppy so that it becomes a test of will not talent.. Bush kissed Mcain a couple years ago (when Mcain backed Iraq) and that is when Mcain joined the group that has kept 2 families in power for over 2 decades. The irony is that the "free press" of the united states hasn't written an important article in over 35 years.

[mary CA]

When I read comments I see accusations thatr: Republicans voted Obama knowing McCain can beat him from Clinton supporters; Republicans and Obama supporters claim that many Republicans did cross over to vote Clinton, knowing she is an easy win for Republicans in November. I tend to believe the 2nd because I have ease dropped on Republican blogs for quite some time.

What Hillary and the press seems to forget is people that are supporting Obama are anti-Iraq war; do not want into Iran; do not approve of cluster bombs in Civilian areas. They will not vote Democrat in November if Hillary wins the Dem bid. Some have said they will not vote at all; others say they will write in Obama's name; others are backing Nadar or will be writing in Edwards or Kucinich; and people like me will vote Cynthia McKinney.

McCain and Clinton are of one mind. She has even endorsed him. Many of those Republican cross overs did cross over to vote Obama because they are tired of things like torture, spying on citizens and so on. Hillary's power quest may have destroyed the election.

[Jed]

In 1988, iIrc, a fair number of Democrats said publicly that Democrats should do their best to ensure that GHW Bush get the Republican nomination, on the grounds that it was obvious that he couldn't possibly win the general election.

Ever since then, I've been really dubious about the notion of working to get the "worst" candidate on the other side to win the primary. Too easy for that kind of thing to backfire.

[Peter Durand]

I watched Hillary for near three hours on C-span when she was campaigning in New Hampshire, and found her remarkable, exciting, and compelling as well as totally inspiring...I watched at a later time her husband Bill, do his stuff a few days later and again was amazed at the intellect of these Clintons, and it simoly occured to me how incrediably smart theses people are and I also thought why can't they present there case, and just be happy in doing that? They do it so well, and are so gifted in doing it, and my thought was why do they have to resort to the dirty tricks they are so famous for? Why with all there knowledge, and presentation capabilities, did they blow it by micro managing their campaign? Its sad for me to watch, but they have moved me into Obamas camp in doing so! They have outsmarted themselves in my minds eye!

[congressive]

Hillary seems to be comfortable with the idea of a McCain/Clinton ticket, anfter having claimed McCain better prepared for the presidency that Obama.

They do have much in common. McCain infamously cheated on his first wife. Hillary's husband infamously cheated on her. Both want more war. Both want higher pharmacy bills. Both want to spy on you. Both think NAFTA is wonderful. Both have experience answering the 3 am crisis phone (McCain:"Hello, Mr. Keating? What can I do for you?")(Hillary:"Hello? Monica who? BILL - IT'S FOR YOU!")

I wouldn't be shocked to see a McCain/Clinton vs. Obama/Edwards ticket in November.

[bogdan]

I will gladdly take oboma or either clinton over a wolf in sheeps clothing. The whole abortin issue is completly irrelevent in this Union and McCain will destroy this country as fast as any other open mindness liberal there is. Bill o'reilly is being compared to rush? What a joke.

[Frank Bowers]

At my polling place in Austin, Tx is was the other way they were car loads of republicans coming in and they met at the entrance and talked. I knew many of them and they wanted me to do the same and that was to vote for obama. I told them I was there to vote for HRC and they sort of got mad but I will never vote for him and I will vote for the independent so as I can try to change things in Texas from the RNC grip which is killing us. They said they wanted barak as they felt McCain could whip up on him. In the Caucus that night they were there about 9 or 10 car loads about 60 or 70 of them and they caucus for obama. I do not know where the story orginated but I think obama or his wife might know. The best of good byes Frank Bwoers of Austin, TX

[Jerome]

Obviously the Republicans are doing this because they know Hillary can't win in November. They know that because the "surprise" they have planned once she is nominated is to remind voters about Bill Clinton's behavior from the past. Whether McCain does it directly, or his supporters do it, its going to happen. It will become THE issue of the campaign, and Hillary will lose in a landslide. Notice that they haven't mentioned a peep about Bill Clinton's escapades because they don't want to let on that this will be their primary weapon to defeat Hillary Clinton. Hillary is a gift to the Republicans.

[Frhetoric]

Give me a break.

This is an attempt by Obama supporters to spin a loss as a loss for Democrats not just for Obama.

There is plenty of evidence to reinforce what happened in Obama's loss.

First, Hillary did what needed to be done a week earlier, she ran her best ads in the final three days when a high enough number of undecideds were persuaded on the security issue. Obama's inability to address their concerns left them choosing the "safer" alternative over the "great orator".

Second, look at the county returns from the election http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_136.htm
Hispanics turned out in humongous numbers for Clinton. In the most heavily Hispanic counties of Webb 4:1,Nueces 2:1, Hidaglo 2:1, El Paso 2:1 her ratio of support made up for his leads in Dallas and Harris County. In only the very liberal bastion of Travis County was he almost able to surmount a 2:1 margin against Clinton.

From a strategic and super delegate perspective the question has to be asked, "Who has shown the ability to win in an election in battleground states with a popular message versus a caucus format?" There are no caucuses in the general and his inability to turnout voters and win the popular vote in Texas and Ohio reinforces a big weakness for Obama.

Dean was unable to transform his online presence into electoral victories. Now, Obama is unable to transform his caucus and his juggernaut online fundraising into majority votes.

Obama will not have the luxury of spending all those resources he spent to lose in Texas and Ohio and regroup for another round of elections in the general.

I believe part of Obama's appeal to smaller state is that he's making his appeal to unheard regions of the country. It's not necessarily all Obama these people just wanted someone to hear them too.

[DAVID A. BELANGER,VET]

all rush wants is for mccain to win, and to do this he needs clinton in the race..period..

[Parkhillian]

Republicans are voting for Clinton to upset the election process. Just yesterday while waiting in line at the Post Office, I overheard the conversation of three people stating they and most every one they knew in other states were also doing that very thing.

That type of election interference speaks volumes as to the character or lack thereof, of those that do that.

[MsPeach]

Your article would have been much clearer if you had written "her margin in Texas AMONG REPUBLICAN CROSSOVERS was much closer than it had been in other states... I finally figured out what you meant, but just because you mention Republicans in the preceding paragraph, you shouldn't assume we are reading your mind in the next. I highly recommend "Elements of Style" by E.B. White .

[xxxxxxxxxxx]

You guys are pathetically trying to establish that the Republicans are still in control.

They have sacked our treasury and spilled blood around the world. They have Pirated the American dream.

Repent before its too late.

[Beth]

I live in Texas, in Dallas County. I voted Democratic in the primary for the first time in over 20 years. I voted for Obama--with the intention of voting for him in November as well. I have a friend who is a poll worker who said that she saw a lot of people in the early voting who voted for Obama as genuine supporters crossing over from the Republican side. On election day, however, she saw a lot of people who crossed over from the Republican side who voted for Clinton, who were not Clinton supporters and had no intention of voting for her in November. I think it would be very easy to see the degree that this is true by simply comparing the makeup of the early voting as compared to the primary day voting. I would argue that people who take the trouble to vote early, as I did, tend to vote their convictions, whereas those crossing over with malign intent are more likely to do so on the primary day itself. I think if you look at the early results, which probably included primarily those who took advantage of early voting, you would see that the Obama was in the lead at that point. It was only later that Clinton pulled ahead. Yes, I think it entirely possible that the spoiler crossovers did influence the election outcome.

[August]

The question is whether the superdelegates are clever enough to see the tricks the Republicans are pulling off to ensure that Hillary will be nominated because she is much easier target for McCain than Obama. I don't think so. They will fall right into the trap as usual. That has been the single most important reason why the GOP has been having it their way for so long. The Dems suck!

[Mary]

This is ridiculous. As much as the pundits from the Obama camp hate Hillary Clinton the republicans can not claim that we saved Hillary's bacon in Texas. I am a republican, proud of it, and I voted for McCain in Texas. In fact, the republican vote in Texas and Ohio was sooooooo overwhelmingly McCain that he gained the nomination of the party. Didn't you see the numbers??? We don't cross lines. We are faithful to the party and the best candidate for president. Period. So if the people rejected Obama for president, then so be it. The people spoke. Obama is a lousy candidate as much as Hillary is.

[chacha]

The number you just recited don't support your analysis that the Republicans helped HRC win TX. It's doubtful that her margin was significantly changed by the voters who followed Rush. Most people who listen to him do it for entertainment, and certainly not to vote for a candidate.

[jason carter]

its the republican equivilant of roulette, cmon lucky 7~!!!!!

[al]

If the outcome of the texas primaries was influenced by the blowhard named limbaugh, then we have become no better than some third rate country where with one or two words a dictator can control the entire country. Is this how we want our country to be run? I personally don't think so. But this is just what the powers that be want. If this is kind nonsense is allowded to continue how much further down the road will we looking at the end of a gunbarrel and being told who to vote for?If this kind of behavior does not call for sweepin changes in the voting system then I don't know what does. After the absolutely horrible handling of the 2000 election where Al gore wins the vote of the people and has the election ripped from his grasp there needs to be a uniform systen where every popular vote means more than the votes of the electoral college. the electoral vote needs to be done away with because it does not reflect what the people want. If the system worked in a different manner I am sure the outcome would be more people voting because they would know that their vote really counts.

[Michelle]

As an educated, Republican, suburban mom from Texas I voted in the Democratic primary. You are insulting millions of Texans when you claim that Texas Republican voters only voted for Hillary because of Rush Limbaugh. That is absurd! I voted for Hillary because she's the best candidate for the job. Period. It is very frustrating as a voter from a large state to have all the candidates pre-eliminated before we even get a chance to voice our opinion. To vote Republican would be to throw my voice away. And yes, I'll vote for Hillary in November if I get the chance.
The primary process in America desperately needs an overhaul so that every American gets an equal vote. I also belive the Texas Two Step system is very unfair-- unfair to senior citizens unable to get out at night, parents with children who have tests the next day, people who have to work in the evenings, single women afraid to be out at night to caucus. The primary vote should be enough. I was not able to vote in my caucus due to safety issues. This essentially takes away my vote. A very unfair system.

[MikeyMike]

As a lifelong Democrat, I have to ask: why are we such a bunch of babies.

We blame blame blame. We complained and complained about electoral conditions and procedures, and have done nothing about them. (One supposes that is due to the distinct possibility that they have in the past, or might, on occasion, help our party; or, perhaps, the other distinct possibility that they, in fact, give us something serious to complain about. Our finger-pointing safety school.

Now, in our hour of need, our own seeds of discontent, have come round to bite us in the proverbials.

We have bankrupted our own nominating process, and where do we turn our attention: oh, yes, once again, the Republicans...They did it...

Hmm. I still believe that elections are won and lost based on who has a compelling vision for the future. If we keep blaming Republicans for our own flaws, voters will keep electing them.

Let us start with one simple truth: The fault lies in ourselves. And build from there.

[Anella]

March 6, 2008

Is Hillary Clinton's Comeback A Fairytale?

Did our Republican friends help make the Democratic Primaries held on Tuesday a FAIRYTALE for democratic voters by PUBLICLY CLAIMING they voted for (AGAINST) Hillary Clinton in the primary election?

Are the Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island primary results for Hillary truth or fairytale?

Are Hillary's wins due to an overwhelming desire of democrats, independents, and truly converted ”republicans for democrats” wanting her to stay in the race or were her wins due to votes AGAINST her by our Republican Friends.

Did our Republican Friends write a fairytale chapter in Hillary’s claim of victories on Tuesday?

Well, let’s see. The last time I checked, the definitions for the word AGAINST, meant:

1. In a direction or course opposite to...
2. In hostile opposition or resistance to...
3. Contrary to; opposed to...
4. In competition with...
5. Directly opposite to...

If Republicans voted AGAINST Hillary Clinton in the democratic primary (as publicly claimed and reported on national television and radio broadcasts by Republican voters) to then later vote AGAINST her in the national election, what does this substantiate?

I realize cross voting is allowed in some primaries. However, when this happens and our Republican friends PUBLICIZE their choice AGAINST her, can she continue to claim TRUE victory based on the vote of democrats and independents, and truly converted republicans for democrats?

Thus, how many of the votes counted were FOR Hillary and how many were AGAINST Hillary?

Interesting thought! Fairytale Win?

[patriciad37]

The Clintons hushed up a federal report issued in 1994 that warned of possible terrorist strikes, including how hijackers could use airliners to hit landmarks such as the Pentagon or White House. The excuse for the secrecy was that they didn’t want to cause panic. Preserve the “fairytale” world image that the Clintons had promoted, “don’t act, don’t tell”. So far, the media and the opposition have refrained from bringing/flinging at the Corrupt Clintons the bitter terrible truth. That they FAILED to focus on terrorism, and FAILED to focus on Osama bin Laden. They FAILED miserably to focus an all-out effort to capturing or killing Osama bin Laden. The CIA report states that they were not authorized to “kill” bin Laden by the Corrupt Clintons. The Clintons attorney briefed the CIA on Bill’s special instructions: if the CIA captured him they were to make every effort to ensure his comfort. Comfort for a killer? CIA reports described building a custom-built ergonomically correct chair for the tall terrorist. Details of concern were the comfort of the shackles. Osama bin Laden had a long beard. The CIA was told that caution needed to be taken that the tape needed to gag bin Laden would not harm his beard. The Clintons were so cautious of international repercussions that they managed to obstruct and delay the capture of a most-wanted criminal. They had several opportunities, two terms in office, with much power at their command. Yet, they undeniably, unforgivably FAILED. This should be most memorable non-accomplishment of the eight years under the Teflon Team.
Sandy Berger was Bill Clinton’s National Security Advisor. The 9/11 Commission, appointed to investigate the Al Qaeda attacks, would assess the Clinton Administration preceding 9/11. Clinton appointed Berger to act as his representative. In preparation for his testimony, Berger was given access to the highly classified material in the National Archives relating to 9/11. Berger testified at the hearing that Clinton did all he could to deal with terrorist threats. Later, when it was learned that Berger had removed Archive documents, the Justice Department accepted his testimony that he had only taken some copies of reports to review, and returned them later, except for a few duplicates, just a mistake. Berger got off with a plea deal, surrendered his license to practice law and was not required to take a lie detector test. When made public, the Clintons claimed politics were behind all the fuss over nothing. The National Archives held evidence so highly classified that few were allowed to view the material. Berger was allowed to enter a room with a cell phone, and other security violations worked in his favor. It was later discovered that MISSING DOCUMENTS FROM THE ARCHIVES INCLUDED CRITICAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HANDLING OF TERRORIST THREATS. It is not known what was in those documents that Berger risked his reputation, career and imprisonment for, and compromised the entire 9/11 investigation. The information could have provided answers to what went wrong before 9/11 and what COULD HAVE/SHOULD HAVE been done to prevent further attacks.
Now, Sandy Berger was selected to be on Hillary’s team of National Security Advisors, along with Madeline Albright and Richard Holbrooke, all former members of Bill Clinton’s cabinet.

[Dave]

Hillary's net gain from Texas was only 4 delegates. Big win!! Waiting on Texas caucus results to see who the real winner is!

Hillary because she's loosing wants to cheat and change the game by including Florida and Michigan. She doesn't want a revote or a caucus in Michigan, knows the truth. Florida and Michigan only became a concern when she realized she was loosing with no hope of changing the will of the people. I wonder if things were revered and Obama was behind would we be considering Florida and Michigan? Just wants everything her way for her own selfish agenda, even if it will destroy the Democratic party. She has turned to fear tactics and tries to destroy hope with the voters. She is a cold vindictive women with few morals that will do ANYTHING to win. I think it would be good for the country to have someone in the White House with good morals, nice family with young kids.

See what her own husband says about those who try to place fear and remove hope from the voters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW0m2nWB_M