James Carville's 'Judas' analogy continues to resonate
How out there was James Carville's "Judas" reference to Bill Richardson in reacting to the New Mexico governor's decision to endorse Barack Obama?
So out there that even Howard Wolfson -- the pugnacious, rarely-known-to-pull-a-punch communications director for Hillary Clinton -- distanced himself from it.
During an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Wolfson had this to say about Carville's comment: "It's not something I would have said."
After adding that he considers Carville "the most brilliant political mind of the last 20 years," Wolfson reiterated: "It's not something that I would have said."
The man in the middle of the flap ...
... wasn't backing down one iota.
Carville, who usually appears on CNN as an analyst, today was an interviewee, telling Wolf Blizter that his quote "had its desired intent" -- i.e., depicting Richardson as disloyal to the Clinton brand that he once had been so firmly affixed to.
The furor, of course, also had the effect of keeping Richardson front and center -- we doubt that his turn on "Fox News Sunday" and the invites he received today from various cable new shows (culminating tonight with a chat with CNN's Larry King) -- were based solely on the desire to hear more about why he now backs Obama.
Carville, while unrepentant about dissing Richardson, displayed his distinctive flair in assuring Blitzer that he would have no problem in helping Obama if the Illinois senator triumphed in the prolonged fight for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Referring to his own dome and one of Obama's top aides, Carville said that "Corporal Cueball" would enlist in "Captain [David] Axelrod's army" from "Day One."
For our money, the best sound bite -- among the hundreds -- being offered on Carville's "Judas" remark came from political strategist Matthew Dowd on "Good Morning America." Dowd (who, as long as religiously tinged terminology is in vogue, underwent a much-publicized conversion from George Bush loyalist to critic), had this to say:
"Probably fortunate for Bill Richardson it wasn't Fourth of July because he'd probably be Benedict Arnold today."
-- Don Frederick
I guess I'm confused. Richardson wasn't considered a "Judas" when he was seeking the nomination for himself, but now this endorsement of Obama makes a difference?
Posted by: ssml | March 24, 2008 at 05:02 PM
The real question we should be asking here is who made Hillary Jesus?
Posted by: WWHD | March 24, 2008 at 05:19 PM
Demonizing the opposition certainly comes easy for the Clinton mob.
Posted by: Ralph Hurtado | March 24, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Is Carville saying Democrats must stay with an associative decision they made 15 years ago, without considering new candidates and new information??
Sounds very closed minded. I sure made the change when there was a really great alternative to the Clintons!!
Posted by: Tom Binder | March 24, 2008 at 05:23 PM
James Carville claims that Bill Richardson is 'Judas' ... so who is he proposing is 'Jesus'?
Posted by: Brian Hatt | March 24, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Well, Obama will just shrug it off and view James Carville's comments as something the 'typical white person' would say... how can anyone seriosly consider voting for either Hillary or Obama...
Posted by: Charles Crawford | March 24, 2008 at 05:25 PM
This is too funny...I watched this guy on CNN many times and does he have a sharp mouth. Getting over worked over one candidate is going way too far and for someone who sits there every night and makes comment; he should have know better.
With guys like these, Washington will have politics as usual!
Posted by: Otto | March 24, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Oh come on James & Mary....old school politics sooo over!
Posted by: Mary Santa Barbara | March 24, 2008 at 05:28 PM
I agree with Carville. What Bill Richardson did was stab his former boss in the back. After all, Richardson received 2 positions in the Clinton Administration - as Energy Secretary and UN Secretary.
I supported this creep, but I am glad his true colors are now out. I do not understand why he would support Obama particularly when there is so much disturbing news on the ObamaUnveiled.com web site.
Dirty Obama Secrets
Shame on Richardson!
Posted by: Jeff | March 24, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Shame on Richardson for turning his back on his friend BIll Clinton.
Posted by: Mickey | March 24, 2008 at 05:36 PM
ssim:
I agree.
Clinton's did not make Richardson. I was a grad student in New Mexico when Richardson was my congressman. I respected his honesty and integrity. This was long before the Clinton's arrived in Washington.
An anology that somehow he should be a "follower" of the Clinton's is absurd.
I have been amazed at how many Clinton supporters I know react with almost religous zealotry whenever I even question Bill Clinton's presidency or his heir apparent - Hillary.
Maybe Richardson does have a political agenda. I hope so. He is too talented a leader to not utilize.
Posted by: dean | March 24, 2008 at 05:36 PM
It sure is fun to see Carville and other Clintonestas complaining about being treated the EXACT same way they have treated Republican candidates for 17 YEARS. Hilarious!!
Keep it up! I am enjoying it. I "feeeel yuuuuuur pain, "Clintons....hahahahahaha
Posted by: Fred | March 24, 2008 at 05:36 PM
This gutter ball needs to end. Has counting escaped the media and superdelegates?
It's time to realize a simple truth; the numbers show that Hillary can't win - Obama has the majority of delegates, states won, and popular vote -- and the 10 contests left can't change that.
Isn't that what is called "democracy"? It's time for superdelegates to validate that before this becomes the Titantic hitting the iceberg.
I used to have a high opinion of the Clinton's -- no more. They are playing lower than dirt -I'll vote for McCain first even if he didn't embellish his war feats as much as hers. In Clinton's political Alice in Wonderland and what's down is up and what's up is down...global dramas are now made up.
The Clinton's have turned Camelot into 30 pieces of silver. End this now before they reveal how much lower you can go.
Posted by: Michael | March 24, 2008 at 05:39 PM
ssml: If Judas has come out to compete as the top dog on his own right, he would not have been branded the traitor; instead, he sold his soul. The same goes with Richardson. All these guys (eg. Richardson, Edwards) are just positioning themselves to be the veep candidate, so I'd say, they bet on the wrong horse.
As much as Obama tries to paint himself as something different, the only "difference" I saw in him is a man of all-fancy-words, laughable naivety, no backbone, and he can STILL get away from tough questions (if mainstream media is asking any at all). This guy won't stand a chance against GOP attack machine.
Posted by: tiddle | March 24, 2008 at 05:39 PM
James Carville prides himself on being able to speak smartass to whomever he happens to dislike and then gleefully watches the victim feel pain.
He also is someone who has managed to get away with that kind of poor behavior his entire life without anyone deciding to make him eat his words. Literally. Its time for the smartass to feel some pain himself. He needs to be "educated" about mouthing off. He's an arrogant SOB who hides behind the cameras and the party bigshots.
Anyone want to bet he'd be pretty meek if he were to meet his opponents in a dark alley? I'd say he'd be the biggest apologetic wimp you ever saw. He'd claim his was "misunderstood."
Again, the smartass needs to be "educated" in better behaviors. Without an "education," he'll never change. He'll just keep on mouthing off. He'll continue to say anything he can to keep himself in front of the media and in the money regardless of the hurt he creates.
Posted by: Tyrone Palmer | March 24, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Carville was dead on in his comments about Richardson betraying those who got him going in politics. Nevertheless I must say that I was not surprised. Richardson has been signaling what he was going to do for some time. Maybe Carvile should say something about rats and sinking ships to the next defector.
Posted by: Tom Baldwin | March 24, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Why is the media indulging in this conversation? It is meaningless. It is Richardson's personal business and I for one greatly respect him for it. He at least is taking a stand. James Carville only seems to like a good fight. I've had enough of fighting, of Bush and Karl Rove tactics, of Hillary and her mud slingling loose lipped group. The news should get on with helping Americans to understand the issues and the positions the candidates are taking. I am getting fed up with the media and their continuous stirring up of controversy and dissent.
Posted by: Rosanne Cochrane | March 24, 2008 at 05:42 PM
This is typical of the Clinton machine - Carville is no different than the principals. They understand the mechanics of the 'shelf life' of their wild statements:
Bill on the patriotism of Obama
Hillary's 3 in the morning call
Hillary's NAFTA misleading statements
And now the 'Judas' thing.
They are great politicians - they do the damage and then don't worry about being discovered after it is too late for their opponent to recover - like attorneys who do the damage knowing that an objection won't be able to undo it.
I hope the American people don't fall prey to this kind of ugliness.
Posted by: mike k | March 24, 2008 at 05:44 PM
Carville is the epitome of disgusting politics (aka Clinton politics). He turns my stomach. I would never vote for any candidate that has Carville on staff.
Posted by: Hugh Jorgan | March 24, 2008 at 05:44 PM
I'm an Obama guy, and have campaigned vigorously for him, but I feel that it's getting to the point where a person has no freedom of speech. Everyone decries another's statement they disagree with, so that any honest opinions are throw out the window in favor of Hallmark phrases.
I may disagree with what a man has to say, but will defend 'till the death his right to say it. And for the record, calling someone a "Judas" is synonymous with "betrayer". In no way does the betrayed have to be Jesus, or Jesus-like. Allow Carville his opinions. And let it be at that.
Posted by: Matthew | March 24, 2008 at 05:46 PM
Stabbing in the back of your friend is bad and bad......
The man has no character for sure. Who want to be a friend of this guy....should watch their backs.
Posted by: steel head | March 24, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Richardson is a well-respected and honest man. He has the right to support whichever candidate he feels is best.
For Carville to engage in such smears is reprehensible. Let's focus on the real issues and ignore such vendors of trash.
Besides, Hillary Clinton is not The Christ.
Posted by: wolf | March 24, 2008 at 05:58 PM
If Bill Richardson is Judas, does that make Hillary Clinton Jesus Christ?
Posted by: John Aldridge | March 24, 2008 at 06:02 PM
Carville is famous speaking honestly, bluntly and from the heart. He again has done this. So what.
There are a lot of people that observe Richardson now and the only reason is owed to President Clinton. . Even though he is a fat millionaire from the inheritance from his Dad(former ceo of Citi Bank), he was a nobody.
We would have never ever heard of him had it not been for Former President Clinton. Now that we know what kind of person Richardson turns out to be, beware.
Of course he would never gone to Obama/s side if he was not promised something. 30 pieces of silver? The problem ....
Axel has already promisesd the VP spot to Daschle, and to Kerry and to Kennedyand to Dodd. Now Richardson thinks he is a really in man.. lol. Good Grief Billy Boy, you made a fatal error.
Keep talking to us our good ole Louisanna friend. Carville you are spot on!
Posted by: Bizz | March 24, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Thank you James Carville, I never realized that Clinton was Jesus Christ!
Posted by: MJM | March 24, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Jesus never lied about his accomplishments to gain his followers. The only miracle HilLLIARy Clinton ever pulled was making it this far while blatantly lying and conning her way through this election.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y&eurl=http://video1.washingtontimes.com/bellantoni/2008/03/on_pennsylvania_and_bosnia.html
Posted by: SkeevieMac | March 24, 2008 at 06:04 PM
OK. Are we done with Hillary now? Got her out of your system? If you are no longer wrapped up in that played out spiel about experience being acquired through osmosis, we can get about the business of electing a non-pro-war president who will restore integrity to the office.
Posted by: N.E. BodybutHillary | March 24, 2008 at 06:14 PM
So Carl Rove learned from Clinton
Posted by: gus | March 24, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Yes, Clinton supporters are loyal bunch. So loyal that they see their "BOSS" as their "JESUS" before the persecution. They now see no way to survive. Thus blames Richardson as traitor.
But this is what people wants, and this is what the Democracy is all about. Mr. Richardson and the other Superdelegates have to listen to the voters. Look beyond the Loyalty.
Posted by: humblesage | March 24, 2008 at 06:24 PM
With friends like Richardson, who needs enemies? The thing that bothered me most was his saying that he felt that Obama would be better at uniting all races. I don't know of any two people who have been in politics who have worked for the good of all races than the Clintons. Richardson is just like most of the blacks who have turned their backs on Hillary for Obama, yet the hispanics which Richardson is, have supported Hillary. My we do become strange bedfellows when it comes to who we think will do the most for us politically! VOTE FOR HILLARY She is the uniter.
Posted by: Anna Knapp | March 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Really and I thought their advisors ASSURED me this endorsement wasn't significant! Sounds like their changing their tunes....like NAFTA....like I was on the front lines in Bosnia. Can you trust a word these people say? Richardson endorsed Obama in large part because of Clinton's negative campaigning, straight from the RNC playbook. Their divisive, win-at-all-costs strategy is costing them big. She's burned her bridges with me and evidently with Robertson, Ted Kennedy & Nancy Pelosi just to name a few prominent Judas.
If they cheat Obama the nomination off this dirty politics, I'm voting for McCain.
Posted by: Celeste | March 24, 2008 at 06:29 PM
So the Clintons own the black and hispanic people and how dare you think for yourself and not endorse or vote for them. The true (racist) colors of the Clintons and other liberals are coming to light, pardon the pun.
Mrs. Clinton is NOT entitled to be President. Obama is far more presidential, even though I don't agree with his policies. Still though among the three stooges, I vote for Obama.
Posted by: treetime | March 24, 2008 at 06:34 PM
I used to have some respect for Hillary Clinton & Carville, but they are really starting to annoy me now. We need to take the Democratic Party back from them.
Posted by: tlsmith1963 | March 24, 2008 at 06:35 PM
The fact is Bill Richardson is far more qualified to be President than Clinton or Obama, but Americans are known for their ability to responsibly vet candidates as companies do in the hiring process. No, Americans just get caught up in the hype and momentum. For instance, John McCain was polling no better than fourth in national polls with just 9% two week before the Iowa caucus.
Posted by: TJ | March 24, 2008 at 06:37 PM
I am really getting tired of the Clintons. They are true Machiavellians. The closest thing the democrats have to the republican party. In this Judas analogy Bill Clinton is Jesus Christ, right? What was he doing in the oval office with interns? Maybe if Mrs. Clinton was home taking care of domestic policy(as in her husband) and not so active in foreign policy (what a joke) the analogy might be more legitimate. Carville, you should go read the prince again to figure out what Richardson is doing. And when you have the Clintons as clients you should avoid the biblical references.... especially comparing your clients to Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Paul H | March 24, 2008 at 06:40 PM
This morning Matt Lauer from NBC asked Richardson why he changed his opinion that Super Delegates should support what the voters have choosen in their state. H. Clinton won Richardson 's state of New Mexico yet he doesn't follow the wishes of New Mexico. NBC played back the clip from Feb. It should be interesting to see what Obama offers him in the future. I think Carville maybe on to something
Posted by: jd | March 24, 2008 at 06:42 PM
As someone who considered voting for Hillary, Carville's Judas remark just makes me and thousands of other voters want to support Obama. James Carville is the "class act" ace in the hole that the Obama campaign needs to bring in undecided voters. Keep it up, Jimmy boy.
Posted by: fladder | March 24, 2008 at 06:46 PM
Hm... Hillary died for your sins?
Let him who is without ... oh forget it.
Posted by: ule | March 24, 2008 at 06:46 PM
With friends like Richardson, who needs enemies? His endorsement of O just made me donate another $100 to Hiillary. How she maintains her poise and perseverance even when backstabbers like this jump on the bandwagon, is amazing. So, Clinton or Obama? Hmmm....let's look at their resumes....relationships with "close advisors".....seems pretty clear: Hillary. Why not jump on a bandwagon of hype? The problem I have with Mr. Obama is his pattern of saying one thing and then distancing himself from those words when the opposite is revealed at a later date. That is called "spin", folks, and certainly not "new politics". It also speaks to his platform of "good judgement". How can it be good judgement to listen to divisive words when you are also running on a platform of "unity", and listen to that for 20 years, just as an aside. How can it be good judgement to have a close friend and political associate whom you used to buy a piece of property with, who was widely known it be under investigation for political fraud and corruption? We have a need and right to know Senator Obama from every angle and what he believes when he talks of equality and a "vision" for America. For voters (or media) to say that Clinton +/or Obama is at fault for the direction the Democratic campaign has headed, is ludicrous and short-sighted. America is a melting pot of races, genders, culture, etc. and we each have a personal interest in seeing "ourselves" in our President. With that connection comes passion and emotional investment. However, it also must be tempered with information about the candidates (good and bad, without negative "label" attached to said information) so that we can make informed choices, rather than only emotionally-driven ones. To Americans: try to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin, mud and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and, arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and what-if's - it is about who you believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for every hardworking American, because they have a track record of that already. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be, not just because she's running for President. Vetted, intelligent, tested and hardworking. Senator Clinton is the right choice for me in '08
Posted by: sunny florida | March 24, 2008 at 06:49 PM
If Bill Richardson can deliver the Hispanic vote he will be Obama's running mate. That is certainly worth 30 silver coins.
Posted by: J. Fernando Cevallos-Candau | March 24, 2008 at 06:50 PM
Bill Richardson is indeed metaphorical for Judas. Will we be surprised if Obama names him as the VP spot on the democratic ticket? Unfortunately, no one in history ever liked or respected a traitor because they cannot be trusted. Unfortunately, Bill Richardson is just like Obama, a typical politician. He voted not because of Obama's racial-re-setting speech, which was only delivered to try to cover up for the hatred of Obama's personal adviser and anti-American, bigoted Pastor, but for political aspirations.
We shall see how Judas' move plays out if Obama should be lucky enough to hoodwink Americans and actually win the presidency and, by coincidence, Judas Richardson, whom perhaps Obama also sees as a typical brown person, will be assigned to a new cabinet position. Richardson's loyalty is as pathetic as John Kerry's when he dumped John Edwards to favor Obama. What a joke to see John Kerry & Ted Kennedy both had egg on their face after Massachusettes paid zero heed to their "endorsement" and voted overwhelmingly for Hilliary Clinton. Who needs friends like Richardson who will sell your white Grandmother for political gain? I doubt the Hispanic community will fall for Obama’s political move to try to win their support. If he casually uses terms like “a typical white person,” how can that assuage the Hispanic community or the Asian community both of which thanks to the spotlight on the Reverend Wright acutely realize that Obama is dedicated to the black community and Africa first and foremost, according to the tenants of his church.
Posted by: Common Sense Voter | March 24, 2008 at 06:53 PM
Does this mean Hillary is Jesus?
Posted by: a | March 24, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Of course it does. President Clinton gave Richardson a hand up by offering him a position in his campaign. To turn his back on the Clinton's at this point shows that he has no loyalty or integrity
Richardson's reason of wanting to see a new generation in the white house and did not like the idea of a bush,clinton, bush, clinton run are ridiculous. Wouldn't you want to weigh who is ready and qualified for the office? Not Richardson.
Richardson has also turned his back on the voters in N.M. that showed up at the polls and pushed Hillary to win the popular vote in .N.M .Richardson states that he doesn't need to represent the voters wishes because it was a close vote. Such Nonsense.
You have to think that Obama and Richardson have made a deal of some sort. Richardson will be rewarded with a nice slot in the white house when the time comes.
In the meantime we are stuck with two politicians that think it's okay to fool the voters with words while doing all their deals behind closed doors. It's politics as usual,. nothing new or different.
Posted by: Blenko | March 24, 2008 at 06:58 PM
Interesting that this 'betrayal' is of the Clintons, not the Democratic party...
But I'm so glad to learn that she can conduct foreign policy under sniper fire...I wonder what will come to her mind at 3 a.m....
Posted by: CTA | March 24, 2008 at 07:00 PM
ssml, you clealry didn't get the memo...don't you know that anything that doesn't support HRC's right to the nomination is wrong and anything that does is right?
Posted by: DHH | March 24, 2008 at 07:04 PM
I suppose if a fellow is not a black preacher in Chicago then he can say that kind of stuff.
Brian
Posted by: Brian Richards | March 24, 2008 at 07:06 PM
I liked the comment from a person on McCafferty File today! "If Richardson is Judas does Cavelle think Clinton is Jesus? I know Jesus and Bill Clinton is NO JESUS!"
Enough! I want to know what will happen to the 29,...... and some injured in Iraq when they come home. Are we taking care of them?? What about the economy? What about the BUdget? Congress is still in Recess? Get with the times!
Unci
Posted by: Unci | March 24, 2008 at 07:06 PM
James...really. Shame on you.
Was calling Hillary a monster worse than calling Richardson a Judas? But the Billaries jumped all over Samantha Power.
Maybe Mary will jump all over James.
Posted by: Malama Makena | March 24, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Loyalty? What loyalty? You mean the loyalty Hillary has shown to the Democratic party by aligning herself with Republican buddy McCain as being the only two running with enough (fake) experience to be commander in chief.
Hillary has proven that she's anything but loyal to the party that elected her husband twice despite all the scandals.
Now BiLLARY, wants us to forget the past and vote for them again this time based in part on experience (More like lack of experience) gained while dodging imaginary bullets in Bosnia, posing at northern Irleand talk photo ops and pillow talk security briefings with Bill.
For once, can we get real and start talking about how to end a war that has been waged in the name of 3500 9/11 victoms & national security. So far, we've killed at least 100,000 Iraq's, lost 4,000 troops, and spent over trillon dollars fighting a war in the WRONG country while our mortal enemy Bin Laden trains suicide bombers between podcasts from his plantation estate in north west Pakistan.
How about being loyal to your country when it needs to be United behind a person who has enough integrity & brain cell's left to say the war is wrong from the start and to risk everything by telling America what it needed to hear about race while inspring over 2 million Americans to believe in CHANGE enough to give a little of their hard earned income to a campaign that brings HOPE to us all. Why any one who would want to stop instead of joining such a positive movement is beyond me.
Posted by: Clarence McDowell | March 24, 2008 at 07:12 PM
From smooth faced presidential candidate to beaded supporter -give me a break!
Posted by: Jerry Cahallan | March 24, 2008 at 07:16 PM
It seems that a person Should not and CANNOT think for themselves if the Clintons own them. That was the same way they thought about the black voters. Penn even went far as to say that the clinton camp will win black votes by 50% consequently ending the race by super Tuesday. They always think that somebody owes them. Was the presidency passed down from Clinton's dad to him or is the presidency an office of the United States? I thought Bill Richardson was working for the country instead of for the Clintons. I never once thought that the Clintons were "using the office" of the presidency or were they???
Talking about betrayal, Why not ask the first lady?
Posted by: pat s austin | March 24, 2008 at 07:21 PM
We all know where James Carville is coming from, it takes an egotistic Judas like Carville to say such, Now let us really look at Carville's camp of Judases starting with HILLARY AND BILL.
HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON AND BILL CLINTON SEEM TO HAVE CHOOSEN JOHN MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT OVER ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC CANIDATE OTHER THAN HILLARY. HILLARY AND BILL HAS BEEN MAKING THE ARGUMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT ONLY SHE AND MCCAIN HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT.
I SOMETIME WONDER, HOW DOES SHE HOPE TO UNITE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IF EITHER SHE OR OBAMA SHOULD LOSE THE PARTY NOMINATION. IS SHE AND BILL SO DUMB OR IS IT THEIR INTENTION TO SPLIT THE PARTY WHEN THE NOMINATION IS LOST. NOW THAT IS A "JUDAS".
Posted by: SALVER | March 24, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Now this is a real blood feud. These insults from the Clintons will not be forgotten. And will possibly give the Bush team a third term.
Race-baiting, innuendo ("he's not a Muslim.. as far as I know), fear-mongering... questioning Barack's patriotism.
Meanwhile, Hillary's conduct is bizarre and unbalanced. Does she have the judgment or temperament to answer that red phone at 3am?
She can't control her surrogates, and she has mismanaged her campaign strategically and financially. She has no message. Yet she has a royal sense of entitlement. You get the feeling it's all about restoring the Clintons and their cronies to power, not about helping people.
Is this the woman, and the pack of jackals, we want running our country?
Posted by: John Broadhurst | March 24, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Richardson wants the vice presidential nomination and believes that Obama will be the candidate to give it to him.
Is that so incredibly difficult to understand?
So, Richardson dumped the Clintons in much the same way that Obama dumped:
1) His friend Rezko
2) His friend Wright
3) His own grandmother
Birds of a feather and all that...
This country is so much better than any of the candidates running.
Posted by: Matx | March 24, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Becase of President Clintons behavior in office, he could not get many A team players in his cabnit who had to stick up for him when he lied. Govenor Richardson was an A team player and served his President well. He had paid back the Clinton's in full. Carville's pit bull job should stop soon, it is getting old.
Posted by: Richard Schauer | March 24, 2008 at 07:28 PM
James Carville is an idiot!
Posted by: Joe Momma | March 24, 2008 at 07:29 PM
It is surprising that the expediency of politics surprises those who make a living by prostituting values. Carville is supremely disingenuous, a wonk, and doubly parasitical. Richardson is simply laying odds on a stronger horse; his game, lets say something like a cabinet position. I am personally shocked that politicians are so interested in consolidating their own power. How unseemly.
Posted by: John Fergus-Jean | March 24, 2008 at 07:30 PM
Governor Richardson's endorsement of Senator Barack Obama is seen by many of us as a betrayal for the following reasons: 1) his endorsement at this time of the campaign was not necessary for the candidate with the widest margin of delegates and the best case scenario for victory; 2) he led the Clintons to believe that his endorsement of Senator Clinton was pretty much assured and; 3) he quit returning phone calls to the former President after he had made his decision on endorsement and before notifying Senator Clinton. So, it does not seem a very courageous action or even one based on a lofty principle. It comes across as a personal attempt to hurt Senator Clinton, a "personal" thing to either shine the light on himself and garner self attention at her expense, or to demean and embarass her. His remark that the Clintons have a "sense of entitlement" is a reflection of his own personal resentment toward the very people who put him on the national stage in the first place. One reason the Clintons may be so hated is because they have never been "entitled", "rich, or privileged". They have had to fight and scrap for every achievement and they were fine to ride to personal ambition while the riding was good. The spectacle of this over indulged, jowl faced man, flushed with something, in his white pants and dark jacket, gushing over his chosen candidate was sickening. It looked exactly like what it was: polishing the apple for his own bite; going with the winner. At best, he could have remained neutral without all the public demonstration or "purging" of his resentment if he had any sense of decency and respect. He could have exercised his choice in the confines of the SuperDelegate caucases. But he chose instead to do it in such a public way, as if all the rest of us will rush to follow him! First, he should clean up the public education system in New Mexico; the healthcare there; the roads. With all the tax dollars New Mexico receives from tourism and the rich celebrities who reside there, there is no excuse for how the rest of the population lives in his own state.
Posted by: commonsense | March 24, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Enough of the meanness and hyperbole. According to Wolfson, Carville is "the most brilliant political mind of the last 20 years." May the Lord save us from these people, and more of the same. America does not deserve an encore.
Posted by: Character Counts | March 24, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Obama sure appreciates diverse company...like Hello ?
Adding Judas Richardson that compulsive brown noser
to the Wrights,Farrakhans and Rezco...whats next ?
My guess is the Hells Angels
Posted by: Girl with the bushy armpits | March 24, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Governor Richardson's endorsement of Senator Barack Obama is seen by many of us as a betrayal for the following reasons: 1) his endorsement at this time of the campaign was not necessary for the candidate with the widest margin of delegates and the best case scenario for victory; 2) he led the Clintons to believe that his endorsement of Senator Clinton was pretty much assured and; 3) he quit returning phone calls to the former President after he had made his decision on endorsement and before notifying Senator Clinton. So, it does not seem a very courageous action or even one based on a lofty principle. It comes across as a personal attempt to hurt Senator Clinton, a "personal" thing to either shine the light on himself and garner self attention at her expense, or to demean and embarass her. His remark that the Clintons have a "sense of entitlement" is a reflection of his own personal resentment toward the very people who put him on the national stage in the first place. One reason the Clintons may be so hated is because they have never been "entitled", "rich, or privileged". They have had to fight and scrap for every achievement and they were fine to ride to personal ambition while the riding was good. The spectacle of this over indulged, jowl faced man, flushed with something, in his white pants and dark jacket, gushing over his chosen candidate was sickening. It looked exactly like what it was: polishing the apple for his own bite; going with the winner. At best, he could have remained neutral without all the public demonstration or "purging" of his resentment if he had any sense of decency and respect. He could have exercised his choice in the confines of the SuperDelegate caucases. But he chose instead to do it in such a public way, as if all the rest of us will rush to follow him! First, he should clean up the public education system in New Mexico; the healthcare there; the roads. With all the tax dollars New Mexico receives from tourism and the rich celebrities who reside there, there is no excuse for how the rest of the population lives in his own state.
Posted by: commonsense | March 24, 2008 at 07:41 PM
An honest man makes a difficult decision with integrity, and has to listen to this tripe. This is so typical of the level of this campaign. Can we please put aside the negativity, divisiveness and attacks and get back to discussing the issues. Oh, I forget, Hillary can't do that, because she'll lose. After 11 straight primary losses, this became her tactic. It's our tragedy as Americans that this sort of thing somehow influences. Shame on America. Uh oh, now I'm Reverend Wright.
Posted by: rose | March 24, 2008 at 07:44 PM
If Richardson is Judas, that would make Bill Jesus. Wow that takes some heavy duty spinning. Let's see, Hillary isn't Bill's mother so she must be the self avowed worldly street prostitute, Mary Magdalene. Now that one I can see. Didn't we tire of the comically sad theatrics back in Bill's scandal riddled administration?
Posted by: N.E. BodyburHillary | March 24, 2008 at 07:49 PM
Your blog has recently become the attack Obama all the time blog. Maybe it's because you were threatened by his speech. I mean what would really happen if we united across race and class lines?
"I'm here because of Ashley."
Obama 2008
Posted by: Barbara | March 24, 2008 at 07:59 PM
Not sure what he means since on the one hand Judas was a betrayer, but on the other hand he was highly successful.
So is he saying there is no hope for Hillary and he feels angry about that?
Posted by: Don | March 24, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Typical left-wing double standards. If Richardson supports Obama he's a Judas and yet Carville openly states that he himself would have no problem supporting Obama should he get the nod. How incredibly transparent can one person be?
Posted by: Keith | March 24, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Another two-timing democrat, this last one hiding behind
a conquistador style beard.Obama has to be scraping the
bottom of the barrel to go after the endorsement of such
a nobody. Carville should celebrate the fact that Hillary will not be burdened with having to appear in public with
this stale and obese governor of a 3rd rate state that
voted Bush in 2004 despite Judas's best efforts
Posted by: Impeach Governor Judas | March 24, 2008 at 08:07 PM
Perhaps an encouraging sign that religion is no longer a forbidden subject in the Democratic party?
Posted by: Tom Rice | March 24, 2008 at 08:14 PM
Marxist all. Look up definition on Google Search.
Posted by: MissClarity | March 24, 2008 at 08:29 PM
where's the mystery?
the fat guy just wants to be VP
Posted by: betty nuggan | March 24, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Can we all just stop this incessant hatred to one and other with in the party?! It is important to note that neither Hillary or Obama can be held accountable something one of their supporters says. We live in an era where privacy is all but abolished due to advances in technology. We live in a world where everyone can go online and become a pseudo-journalist with in the blog-o-sphere. Mr. Carville's comments reflect more about him than Mrs. Clinton. I do question why he seems to feel that Mr. Clinton "owns" Richardson and therefore Richardson "owed" him... But again the Clinton's did not say this, James Carville did. I should also note that Mr. Richardson continues to say he has nothing, but respect for Senator Clinton and her husband, his former boss. I see no reason to denigrate anyone because of their personal preference for a candidate.
While I am definately for Senator Obama, I AM A DEMOCRAT FIRST! I think Senator Clinton is a great politician who deserves better than the campaign staff she currently has. I guess my point is... STOP blaming the candidates!!! The media thrives amid controversy... despite the endless complaints and accusations of media bias from supporter in both camps, here is the truth... the media is not pro-Hillary or pro-Obama. They are PRO-Controversy! You can't blame them for it (ratings?), but we can understand it -- and more beyond it. The more dramatic the story, the more it sells... regardless of the validity of the accusation.
Posted by: Kenny Alan Cramer | March 24, 2008 at 08:41 PM
Richardson is a Judas. If this isn't a quid pro quo then we should expect Bill Richardson to be appointed to any cabinet position now should we? It is hilarious for Richardson to say that Obama of all people can best bring unity among the races. Really? Last I checked he was going to a racist, anti-white church that pledges alliance strictly to the Black community, not the Brown community (Richardson--that means your supposed peeps), not the Yellow community etc. Let's see who Obama tries to gain as an Asian endorser next as if that is going to cover up the fact that he is strictly concerned with the black community and proving his brotherhood, despite the fact that his black father deserted him and his white mother and grandmother were the ones to care for him, yet he points out his grandmother as being no different than Rev Wright. Last I remember Grandma didn't hate her country nor did she damn it to hell.
Posted by: Bill | March 24, 2008 at 08:46 PM
You are all like chickens in the barnyard squawking and buk-buk-ing over three turds that look like worms
while the fox slowly creeps up........................................
What in heaven's name makes any one of you idiots
think that you could possibly know one iota of what's going on?
Posted by: fred doble | March 24, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Hey Don !
Benedict Arnold or Judas both fit Richardson as well.
Obama's fans on this site are asking assinine questions
like if Richardson is Judas who is Jesus ? I cant recall
reading such infantile and myopic gibberish.This eleventh
hour endorsement does not pass the smell test and should
demonstrate to the flock of naive and credulous Obama
fans what a constipated third rate politician Richardson
continues to be.
Posted by: What's his face | March 24, 2008 at 08:56 PM
Like, Carville is so over. Seriously, he is about as marginal a political figure these days as Bill Clinton. IMHO, The only people who are paying any attention to these guys are political junkies like us -- I really think the rest of the country couldn't care less and barely remembers them. (BTW, I was a big BC supporter.)
Posted by: sfv | March 24, 2008 at 09:02 PM
If somebody is a true friend of another party it is his duty to tell them:" My friends, you are not right". Do you remember that historical phrase (sorry, I forgot who had said it, somebody from Greek philosophers):"Plato is my friend, but the truth is more important". We cannot bring harm to America solely because of friendship. The future of our country is more important than Clintons' well-being.Thank you, Mr. Richardson.
Posted by: vlad | March 24, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Hey, Jeff, Guess what his former boss did to the country when he lied and kept us tied up for two years...some of us even gave money to his damned false defense fund...because he thought oral sex with an intern was more important than playing adult and running a country.
He stabbed his country in the back, did Lying Billy.
Posted by: Richard P. McDonough | March 24, 2008 at 09:11 PM
To: Kenny Cramer
Hillary hires her staff. Obama hires his staff. Bush hires his staff. In each case THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE Period.
Posted by: Richard P. McDonough | March 24, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Why is no one asking about his Book? It shows he lied from the start !!
chapter 14 page 293 he talks about setting in church and listing to write preach about "Hiroshima' hm sounds familiar and also talks about how he agreed with the church creed page 284, I think he is still not being honest. I have the book and read it myself. Dreams from my father
Real quick the day before this all came out my onto the churches website and found these.. Now I am sorry but these are the churches values, the churches views the whole time, and he belonged to it the entire time... OBAMA I DON'T BELIEVE YOU!!!
Obama lied read and compare to todays news..Speech on Race
There’s a lot of folks in America right now who have heard that. And I want to ask you why you have been listening to this pastor and close to him for nearly 20 years?
SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-IL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, first of all, Anderson, you know, I strongly condemn the statements that have been shown on the tape.
I have to confess that those are not statements that I ever heard when I was sitting in the pews at this church. This is a church that I have been a member of for 20 years. This is a well-established, typical, historically African-American church in the South Side of Chicago, with a wonderful set of ministries.
OBAMA: And, as I said, Anderson, if I had heard any of those statements, I probably would have walked up, and I probably would have told Reverend Wright that they were wrong.
But they were not statements that I heard when I was in church.
COOPER: So, no one in the church ever said to you, man, last week, you missed this sermon; Reverend Wright said this; or...
OBAMA: No.
COOPER: I mean, I think I read in your books that you listened to tapes of Reverend Wright when you were at Harvard Law School.
OBAMA: I did.
COOPER: So, you had no idea?
OBAMA: I understand.
I did not. Well, I want to be clear that, when I ran for president, some of these statements started surfacing.
COOPER: I mean, you may not have been there, but have you -- you must have heard that he had said these things.
OBAMA: You know, I confess that I did not hear about this until -- until I started running for president.
And then there was a story that was issued in which I strongly objected to these statements and condemned them. But what I also understood that was -- was Reverend Wright was on the verge of retirement and that a new pastor was coming in. The church family was one that was very important to me. It's where my wife and I got married. It's where our children were baptized. And, so, my belief was that this was something out of the ordinary. Obviously, some of these statements indicate that this was happening more frequently.
But I also want to say this, Anderson. This is somebody who was a former U.S. Marine, who is a biblical scholar, who's preached and taught at theological seminaries all across the country, and has had a reputation as a preeminent preacher in the country.
And, so, I have to strongly condemn the statements that were made. They do not reflect my views or Michelle's views, or probably the views of many people in the church.
On the other hand, you know, Reverend Wright is somebody who is like an uncle or a family member who you may strongly object to what they have to say, but, as he's about to retire, I have no intention of leaving the church itself.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/1...
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Posted by: Angel | March 24, 2008 at 09:21 PM
I've never seen Judas in person, nor have I seen Brutus. But Bill Richardson sure fits to depict either one of them in my imagination.
Posted by: Simon | March 24, 2008 at 09:21 PM
I am so happy for Bill Richardson and happy for this country that we have leaders like him, who have the moral confidence and strength of character to walk away from the insider establishment demanding loyalty for a 3rd term
Posted by: dee | March 24, 2008 at 09:24 PM
what richardson said is that the Clintons have a sense that somehow they are entitled to the presidency..who made the bush-clinton dynasty the ROYAL FAMILY of the united states? not ....WE THE PEOPLE. the middle class..the new working poor...but remember King George hadn't heard about the $4 gasoline either.
COURT JESTER carville's loathsome statement even tops "Shame on you, barack obama", uttered by the QUEEN herself.
Posted by: NO DIEBOLD PRESIDENT | March 24, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Since when is the US Presidency a return favor for loyalty? And that too to the wife of the man owed?
That is how royal titles are obtained and part of what the founders risked their lives to change.
Posted by: Young Atheart | March 24, 2008 at 10:14 PM
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck. Its probably a duck. Carville calls it like he sees it. Richardson's a duck.
Posted by: Mary | March 24, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Obama will loose in the end and Richardson endorsement will not matter. American won't stand by and let a hate mongering preacher influence their presidential candidate. Richardson said he was above the pettiness but boy did he try to get down low and dirty and I believe that is what Carville meant by calling him a Judas.
Posted by: pet | March 24, 2008 at 10:20 PM
How much water can the Clinton Clan carry? None. They add dirt and throw it at their friends and enemies alike. Bill Richardson is negotiator who know a winner: Obama. Obama is smart, loyal, and confidence. The receipe for the POTUS.
Posted by: What much Water can a Clinton carry? | March 24, 2008 at 10:25 PM
It's simply politics people.... Richardson wants to be the Vice President more than the Clintons friend. If Hillary becomes the nominee, then she will pick Obama as the VP. And if Obama gets it, then what better than to have a loyal Hispanic running mate. Once again, it's all politics...
Posted by: Bobby | March 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM
If Bill Richardson is Judas, then Bill Clinton is David and Monica Lewinsky is Bathsheba. Hillary, well...she's Satan!
Posted by: vanessa | March 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Richardson was under a lot of pressure from both of the candidates because of the Hispanic vote, but his endorsement comes too late for that. He won't be Obama's VP. After the whole Wright fiasco Obama HAS to pick a white person if he has any chance of picking up a few votes in that demographic.
Richardson got caught in a web of his own making by saying he would go with the leader in delegates after Texas and Ohio and Obama wouldn't let him off the hook. Richardson finally made his decision and then the Wright thing blew up and he sat on his endorsement for ten days before going public to see how it would play out.
That's why he stressed "the speech". He's hoping and praying it worked, but Obama's implied promise of the VP is probably going to go up in smoke. Poor Bill. He really is better qualified than Obama to be President. He certainly has bad timing, at the very least.
Posted by: maggie | March 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Of course, the only way the Richardson/Judas metaphor would work is if Hillary was a modern-day Jesus. [I know, because I got a Master’s in poetry from UMass Amherst.]
But, on a scale from one to ten—ten being Jesus and one being, say, the Anti-Christ—Hillary’s probably a five. (Neither here nor there.)
p.s. Note the similarity of names between James Carville and Russ Cargill—the evil EPA director who destroys Springfield in The Simpsons movie.
Posted by: Joe | March 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
The Clintons are trying to take away a sure win from the democrats, one that would undo massive right-wing bull in a china shop governance for the last 8 years just because they didn't get their little white house entitlement.
They threw their fellow democrat under the McCain straight talk express with the dubious experience argument and are practically hand delivering talking points to the repubs.
They've used race baiting in South Carolina, attempted to keep folk in Nevada from caucusing because they didn't get a certain union endorsement, wanted to change the rules concerning votes in Florida in Michigan that they agreed to only after it looked to work in their favor and that they needed those votes.
Everything they do is simple and plain from the Iraq vote, that was ridiculous to all the aforementioned shenanigans. Every bit of it was done for Political gain and none of it because it was right to do or honest or that the decisions were rooted in good judgment.
I just don't think the Clintons or their campaign realize how badly their every gaffe is exposed in the Internet Age and I think their dinosaur like response to it even now after their obvious frequent lies caught on YouTube (think Reagan in SC that Bosnia thing is a freaking joke, I love the movie trailer that somebody made) are indicative of how out of touch they and their campaign managers are.
Obama overcomes serious controversy(and will be doing so again and again thanks to Rev A-bomb Wright) by delivering a landmark and undoubtedly historic speech on Race the likes of which hasn't been seen since King walked the Earth.
He has more popular vote, he's attracted a whole new generation to the political process, he has more delegates, more states won, he's raised a ton more money.
Look folks:
Richardson got it right. It's best for the Party and for the democrats chances to capture the White House and salve the wounds and that is more important than some blind loyalty to the cut-throat politics of yesteryear!!
Posted by: mcj | March 25, 2008 at 12:07 AM
What fools! Hillary is one up on Jesus - she's an actual person and not a mythological character.
If Carville wants to say Richardson betrayed a friend, well go him! He has a right to his opinion.
And for those whining about getting back to discussion of the "issues" - I presume by that you're calling for more of Obama's empty speeches on hope, faith, blah, blah, blah that don't amount to anything of substance whatsoever.
Face it people. Politicians belong in the pigpen - they are most comfortable with avoiding issues with mud and slime - that way no one knows what they're really getting when the election is said and done. It has become an American political tradition.
Posted by: atheist | March 25, 2008 at 12:54 AM
If Judas would not have betrayed Jesus, there would be no such thing as salvation.
Posted by: Alex | March 25, 2008 at 01:41 AM
GUYS,
Richardson was not Judas when he stood for the nomination but he is Judas now.
What does it mean?
Richardson entered the nomination fray to help Clinton.
He was supposed to drain away votes from Edwards and Obama for rewards later.
Obviously such a hidden henchman joining the enemy is intolerable.So the Judas
slur was for him walking away from the latest deal rather than for forgetting
the two cabinet posts a decade ago.
Posted by: S.Ramkumar | March 25, 2008 at 02:43 AM
Reporters should "report the news" then shut up. The media is who decides who becomes the president not the people in America. Bu the way FatBoy Richardson is an idiot trator to his people also. New Mexico voted for Hilary Clinton but this fat swine is going to support Obama. Are.nt you supposed to represent your peoples wishes? The rest of the world is sitting back and laughing.
Posted by: Steve | March 25, 2008 at 02:43 AM
Carville is cited on the list of people who had learning disability but made it - only believe half that statement.
Posted by: Ron | March 25, 2008 at 03:07 AM
Since the Judas in the Last Supper tale was (as better translations of the Greek word that we've since mistakenly taken to be 'traitor' suggest) doing as Jesus instructed him, then Obama may fit the bill. He's doing what voters want and leading the Democrats a little (just a little) further from the right. If we want to look at traitors to party, let's look at Sen. Clinton's slide toward the right since she started running for president when she decided to become Senator for New York.
Posted by: drew3000 | March 25, 2008 at 03:10 AM
So...Richardson is Judas and billary are Jesus and Mary. So what is that third guy who is on the mat for what his pastor said. That dark guy I mean. Is he from the very hot place? Do I hear MacCain sniggering?
Posted by: Rufus. D | March 25, 2008 at 03:28 AM
Richardson't endorsement of Obama is an act of integrity especially because he is friends with the Clinton's. He truly believes Obama is the best of the two Democratic candidates. For a statesman to choose what is best for the country over what is best for personal friendship constitutes integrity. Also, Richardson sees that the continued gutter fighting between Hillary and Obama is damaging the Democratic Party. So, his endorsement of Obama is an act of party loyalty.
Posted by: Bill | March 25, 2008 at 03:31 AM
To James Carville; Congratulations on being the only living human being in Washington who speaks the truth. It certainly sets the Chickens back on their feathered butts. I had nothing but good opinion of Richardson until he stabbed the Clintons in the back presumably hoping to get on the winning side and get a plum job. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher now, and nothing describes him better than Judas.
Posted by: Marjorie Sunderman | March 25, 2008 at 03:49 AM
I want a President who is consistent and loyal. Sen. Hillary Clinton meets both of those requirements as evidenced by her support of Presidents Cllinton and Bush despite concerns that they might not have always been truthful.
Those senators who prejudged President Bush when he lied about Iraq were self serving, despite the latter evidence that he had not been candid with Congress and the American people. Senator Clinton's vote to support President Bush was a prime example her ability to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans despite any misgivings about WMD's.
I did not like it when Senator Clinton supported President Bush's request for support to invade Iraq but now applaud her her loyalty to the Presidency.
If you can't believe your President who can you believe? Think Former Senator and President elect: Hillary Clinton.
Congratulations to you Mr. Carville for correctly lidentifying our modern Judas.
Posted by: F. Scagliome | March 25, 2008 at 04:44 AM
E' tu Brute.
Bravo Carville
Posted by: F. SCagliont | March 25, 2008 at 04:48 AM
To Barry Goldwaters " In your heart you know he's right" came the reply "But in your guts you know he's nots." That stuck! as does Carville's exposing Bill Richardson as an opportunistict, two faced, low life rat. Sorry I got carried away, I know that it's just bottom of the barrel politics.
However this plays out, we don't need another four years like the last four.
Posted by: F. Scaglione | March 25, 2008 at 05:00 AM
Probably seems incongrous that I look to James Carville and Connie Schultz of the Cleveland Plain Dealer to verbaliz what's going on in the political arena. The message is the same no matter our reaction. As a male Carville responds to nastiness quickly. Just because he isn't gentle doesn't mean he's wrong.
Posted by: F. Scaglione | March 25, 2008 at 05:18 AM
James Carville looks like E.T from space.
This is a slap in the face to all of the Mexicans in American.
You here me Latinos stand up for your race.
Since when is the US Presidency a return favor for loyalty? And that too to the wife of the man owed?
That is how royal titles are obtained and part of what the founders risked their lives to change.
Posted by: Lee | March 25, 2008 at 06:38 AM
James Carville is a pig headed weasel.
Who's listening to the lies and trash that spew from that corrupt camp on a daily basis?
He's just trying to take the heat off the fact that What's her Face stood there with wide eyes and a big smug smirk, telling an outright bald-faced lie to the American public.
Really!
Posted by: Lemmy | March 25, 2008 at 07:08 AM
Judas, Lewinsky, Rev. Wright, Hillary in Bosnia - these are the issues the Democrats are debating, while McCain sits back and quietly searches for a running mate who will balance his age, ideology, geography, etc. The Dems better get their act together and quick. Here's what they should be thinking about RIGHT NOW:
http://digits.hrblock.com/ssDigits/digits.php?rType=1&sPath=1140&sNode=1140&uId=198
Posted by: GHarri | March 25, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Since New Mexico was won by Senator Hillary Clinton, how does Richardson justify his endorsement of Senator Obama? I believe that the Wright disaster prompted Obama's camp to rigorously enlist Richardson to deflect from Wright. I'm wondering what was promised, VP? Richardson is incrediably self serving. I think Obama is a
good man with a good heart, and I like all GOOD democrats such as James Carville will vote for whomever gets the democratic nomination. HOWEVER, and unfortunatly, Obama is not electable AFTER the Wright disaster. Wright's words are too damaging. I hope Senator Hillary Clinton is our ELECTABLE nomanee. .
Posted by: glo | March 25, 2008 at 09:13 AM
So... folks think Hillary is God?
Richardson is to Judas
as
Hillary is to Christ?
This is the politcs of the Clintons, embrace one day and smear the next.
Posted by: arthurW from Virginia | March 25, 2008 at 09:14 AM
This is in response to "Lee" who begins with liking Carville's face with ET... That comment alone is enough to dismiss your comment. But I want to note that Richardson does not speak for all Mexican-Americans. I am Mexican-American, Tejana to be exact. And I am very disappointed in Richardson's endorsement because HRC by far is the most qualified and electable. However, as a GOOD democrat that I am, I will vote for Obama if he gets the
nomination....You see, I want the best for our country, a democrat, YOU Hillary haters should be ashamed of yourselfs...OR is that what Obama really wants you to be a HIllary hater?? He (Obama) just stood idly by as his general accused President Bill Clinton of McCarthyism. He just stood by, allowing his dirty work to be done by him.
Posted by: Glo | March 25, 2008 at 09:21 AM
Let’s set aside what Rev Wright spewed for 3 decades.
“Dreams From My Father.”
Barack Obama interviewing for a job in 1985. He found himself instinctively distrustful of the man who would become his employer — in part because of the man’s skin color.“There was something about him that made me wary,” Obama recalled in his memoir, “A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
Obama refers to Caucasians as "typical white people." In other words, in Obama's world, all white people are afraid of black people and go around spitting out ethnic and racial stereotypes. What a unifying perspective.
It’s outrageous for people, let alone Pastors and Presidential candidates to go around casually using terms like,"Oh yeah, a typical Asian,'; "You white people;" and Judaism a “gutter religion.”
According to Bill “Judas” Richardson on Obama, “You will make every American proud to be an American….Obama has the ability to unite the country.”
Posted by: B. Anderson | March 25, 2008 at 09:32 AM
I believe there is a secret deal between Obama & Richardson.
It was a shock to hear to the endorsement; a shock to see how flip-flop Richardson can become.
This is not about loyalty, it is about " where is your principle?" , "what had you say before?", "where is your gut?"
It also tell me that Richardson is definitely not a right choice for a President or Vice President. Richardson just destroyed his own political life, and it was his own decision. How stupid!!!!!
Posted by: Mike | March 25, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Richardson has set up an excellent example that pledged delegates can vote at his/her own desire.
Posted by: Mike | March 25, 2008 at 09:40 AM
The problem with Carville's comments (as I see it) is that he seems to believe that Richardson owes the Clinton's something because he was appointed to positions for which he was qualified. As Richardson said, he served well and that was his thanks. The problem with the Clinton campaign is that they have been relying on old 'friendships' and 'payback' to get votes and it hasn't been working. A Judas is one who does something behind your back. Richardson was upfront and let them know where he stood. Why can't Carville respect the fact that Richardson can think for himself and not feel as if he is 'owned' by the Clinton's because [they] gave him a job?
Posted by: MrsJones | March 25, 2008 at 09:48 AM
In life you met people that makes a big difference in your life or career. I guess Richardson's way is "what's in it for me NOW" That's really surprising, Hispanic's that I know never forgets favor given to them. They're in most cases a loyal bunch.
Posted by: Jorson | March 25, 2008 at 09:49 AM
Don't ever change jobs and go to work at another company because that might make you a traitor according to Carville's logic. Nevermind the fact that your current boss can fire you at any time, just as the Clintons would have gladly fired Richardson from their administration if it were politically expedient for them to do so at that time.
Posted by: Judy | March 25, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Mahalo nui loa James Carville. Call it like u see it. Who was richardon until Bill Clinton picked him? And, the super delegate (like richardson said) should vote like the delegates of his state voted. Er, didn't Hillary win New Mexico! So, now what, Bill Richardson??...kingmaker Find another excuse. Try talking out of the other side of your mouth,
Posted by: Alfred Akana | March 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Carville made a very stupid comment!
His whole criticism is based on Ritchardson not being "loyal"!
Some of the most valid criticism's of the Jerk in the White House, are because of his unwillingness to get rid of the incompetent fools he wants to show his "loyalty" to!
Endorsements should be made on the basis of, "who would be the best for this country", nothing else!
Cronyism is a good reason for rejection of a candidate!
Posted by: Robert Egan | March 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Hey, James Carville wanted it to be said and said it. His message was clear, and I think he was right
Bill Richardson did betray the clintons to help someone he doesn't know...why? Probably for his own benefit and popularity, that's all.,..I like Barack I just don't fully believe his supporters always advocate that much change when their falling in line and barack doesn't offer enough change to be the candidate of change; he falls very short of gay rights, health-care, and more; so i don't understand whats so inspirational about him.
Posted by: Christophe | March 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Here's the deal on this....Gov Richardson stated he would follow the will of the voter's of his state when endorsing a candidate. Clinton won New Mexico, but Richardson did an about face and decided to support Obama. This is what is really ticking people off....especially the voter's of New Mexico who expected their govenor to support the candidate they voted for.
Posted by: awlswll | March 25, 2008 at 11:29 AM
If Hillary is some iteration of god/Jesus in this prolonged metaphor, what, then is Bill? An apostle, the donkey Jesus rides into town? Oh, according to this poll, might he be the biggest lying, cheating "pig" in politics - their words, not mine:
http://www.wowowow.com/poll/who-biggest-pig
Posted by: Penny H. | March 25, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I'm so proud of James Carville for calling a rat what it is. I knew when ole Bill Richardson was kissing up during the debates, he would have endorsed anyone he thought was ahead in order to get the vice president's job.
The other power brokers in the democratic party went with Obama because they thought he was so green, they could control him. I,m a life long 66 year old democrat and will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. So will all my friends and we're college graduates. So you see, all college graduates are not for Obama. Keep giving it to them James Carville!
Posted by: gaga | March 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Thank you, Kenny Alan Kramer for your post. I really appreciate it. I am an Obama supporter but I have nothing but respect and admiration for Senator Hillary Clinton. While I truly hope that Senator Obama will become the Democratic nominee, in the end, I would support either candidate with enthusiasm over John McCain (or ANY republican). We need to get out of the gutter (both sides) and support our candidates in the way I believe Senator Obama is espousing. Let's appeal to our better selves and represent our candidates with the class and dignity that they deserve.
Yes, we need to stop listening to supporters and surrogates who say demeaning (and irrelevant) things about each candidate. Both are excellent candidates. I just wish they were running at separate times.
Please, let's not denigrate either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton. They both deserve our respect. They are both amazing candidates. As Democrats, we are so fortunate to have two superb candidates. Critique them on issues and positions, but keep it respectable, PLEASE!
Posted by: Aina Lyons | March 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM
JAMES: I'VE SUPPORTED YOU SINCE YOU BEGAN, AND APPROVED. THIS IS THE WORST THING YOU HAVE DONE . THINK ABOUT IT!
I'VE WORKED FOR PRESIDENT'S ,TOO.
JIMMYE
Posted by: Jimmye S Hillman | March 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Hasn't everyone missed James Carville's point? By saying Richardson was "Judas" just means he turned on a friend. It doesn't mean Carville is saying Hillary is Jesus. I agree....Richardson DID turn on a friend and one who put him in some very important positions.
Bottom line, however...is we need to be talking about issues...not whether a black man or a woman is nominated for president. I'm so sick of this crap....I vote for "none of the above". We need a candidate who will address the issues....economy, housing, jobs etc. Bring back John Edwards!!!!
Posted by: Bonnie | March 25, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Yoou think Bill Richardson endorsed Obama for the better of the Democratic Party? No way, I live in New Mexico and have learned that this man is the most self-seving (expletive) to come across politics. Whatever he can do to fulifill his political ambitions, he will do it. He has even "stabbed poltical supporters here in the state" when they become so called "controversial...and they have done nothing wrong..bout good ole Bill, he distances himself right off the bat to save his career. His wife is always a no show in the state. Bill is looking for a position somewhere in Obama;s administration, and everyone in New Mexico knows it, except people that do not live in New Mexico. However, this poor guy better start attending AA because many already know about his special attention he receive at Sandia Casino and how he leaves stoned cold drunk. The press will not report but all you have to do is go there on a Saturday night and watch the circus begin, they even keep the restaurant open just for him. Poor Bill, what he does not know is what goes around will come around, and for a man of selfish ambition, he is a "Judas." We in New Mexico can hardly wait for him to get the heck out of here. Just ask any legislator who Bill tried to shove legislation down their throat. Unite the party, Here in New Mexico he tries to shove down our throats and gives Tim Russert a different scenario of what is going on here.
MEDIA COME ON DOWN AND CHECK OUT THE REAL GONG ON WITH BILL AND HIS SELFISH AMBITION- TALK TO THE PEOPLE-TALK TO THE LEGISLATORS. BILL IS LOOKING FOR A HIGHER POLITICAL OFFICE...PLEASE GIVE HIM ONE, SO HE CAN GET THE HECK OUT OF NEW MEXICO!!!!! HURRY PLEASE.
Posted by: barbara richardson | March 25, 2008 at 02:12 PM
As a downstate New York Democrat I am in a win/win position, either Senator H. Clinton stays in Washington and works for me or President H. Clinton stays in Washington and works for me. You too can change your luck and change our world!
Posted by: Ferdy | March 25, 2008 at 02:16 PM
When Jimmy Carter and later The Clinton's went to Washington, they were downgraded since they were not part of the Washington "crowd".
Now they are being faulted for being part of the same old Washington crowd.
The worst the Democrats have to offer is far better than we have received for the past 8 years. Look in your wallet! Listen to our former allies! Spring is in the air!
Can't wait to vote
Posted by: Ferdy | March 25, 2008 at 02:25 PM
If Obama is elected president, please give Bill a position in Washington...we in New Mexico cannpt stand a self-seving person who only looks out for himself and his ambitions.He has alienated himself from the legislators and tried to shove legislation down their throats. What goes around will come around,... So yes, I think this man is a "JUDAS" for he wouId give 30 pieces of silver to advance his cause. Just look for him on Saturday nights at Sandia Casino in Albuquerque, pretty much wasted, for they keep the bar and restaurant open just for him.
Posted by: barbara richardson | March 25, 2008 at 02:28 PM
I have posted two comments and you won't post them . What are you afraid of? I( thought this was a blog...or you just want blog of what you want ot hear?
Posted by: barbara richardson | March 25, 2008 at 02:42 PM
SHALOM,
OBAMACANS, PLEASE DO NOT GET INTO A TANGO YET WITH JAMES CAVILLE . YOU SHOULD ALL RESPECT FELLOW AMERICANS IRRESPECTIVE OF "POLITICAL CAVILLING'
GOOD DAY CAVILLE
REV. KOFI ODURO OFORI-AGYEMAN-PREMPEH
Posted by: REV KOFI ODURO OFORI-AGYEMAN-PREMPEH | March 25, 2008 at 02:50 PM
First Hillary Clinton was trashed for standing by her husband then She was vilified for standing by our lying Presdent and soon we will get to fault Her for standing up for each and every American.
I wll not abandon either Democrat because of their wanting to serve me, no matter how badly they go about it. Time is running ou for all Americans and all of the world.
Wish Carville was my friend.
Posted by: FCS | March 25, 2008 at 02:51 PM
The REAL issue is who is BEST for the job. NOT supporting a friend. That is the absolute WORST reason to support someone in a presidential election, just because they helped you out in the past.
This isn't a popularity contest...it's electing the President of the United States.
Way to go Carville.
Posted by: Don Chaput | March 25, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Back to the old litmus test.
Richardson or Carville-
which would you care to share your foxhole with?
Posted by: FCS | March 25, 2008 at 03:07 PM
To those who are shocked by Mr. Carville's candor:
You shoulda heard him before he was mellowed by Mary Matalin.
And the truth sall set you free.
Posted by: FCS | March 25, 2008 at 03:18 PM
The verdict,although not unanimous is not
flattering for either Obama or Richardson.
People who equate Richardson with all the
proverbial oncle Toms such as Judas,Brutus,Benedict Arnold or who compare him to a rat or a snake are little
impressed by the poor judgement that Obama displays when it comes to pastors,
endorsees and business relationships.God
only knows wich deranged or pervert
caracters he would appoint to his cabinet.
Ask John Lewis how he was bullied by the
Chicago ruffians. Give me Hillary or I will
hold my nose and vote McCain.
Posted by: Yanosh Kvetch | March 25, 2008 at 04:21 PM
Just watched Robert de Niro in Midnight Run where he
refers to a low life Chicago mafiosi as : ¨A slime ball
floating in a sea of puss.¨ A bit vulgar but not far from the
truth when it comes to a fitting description of that uncle
Tom governor of New-Mexico. I wonder what Obama's
granny thinks of this whole mess. Obama can sure pick
the loosers.
Posted by: Girl with the bushy armpits | March 25, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Obama lovers, keep telling us ",Obama has the most votes and the most degates,"maybe so. But I wonder, if people, had known what a racisist he is ,and how his dear wife,shared how she really feels about this country, would they still think he is so great ? His dear wife seems to be missing in action since her great speech. It is too bad his wonderful minister and Obama's true colors did not come out sooner. They talk about ,Clinton will do anything too win.I think some people need to take a better listen to Obama.What will he do too win? We do not know what he will do now, or later,if he is elected. We got a very small glimpse of Obama. I did not like what I saw.He talks out of both sides of his mouth and tells us nothing. Do you really trust someone you know nothing about? Just use the common sense, God gave you,and you will have the sensible answer.
Posted by: jeanette | March 25, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Carville, Judas and Clinton's last supper cartoon.
for a fun cartoon - visit this blog and pass this political cartoon around. "Clinton's last Supper - Davinci Code II"
double click cartoon for a larger view.
http://somersetsentinel.blogspot.com/2008/03/clintons-last-supper-davinci-code-ii.html
Posted by: Merrill Bender | March 26, 2008 at 05:09 AM
Judas, while a despicable, weak man smitten by evil, did, in fact, facilitate the logistics which lead to the execution of Jesus Christ, thereby fulfilling scripture which called for Jesus Christ to atone for the sins of mankind on the cross.
In effect, the betrayal by Judas was necessary in order for the passion of Jesus--the salvation of mankind--to be realized.
Perhaps Governor Richardson unwittingly assumed a similar role on behalf of America by saving our nation from the sinister and evil forces that would surely accompany Hillary Clinton into the White House?
If Richardson indeed helped spare America the agony and pain of another Clinton Administration, he should be rewarded handsomely!
Say, 30 pieces of silver?
Posted by: Call Me Hussein | March 26, 2008 at 07:44 PM
James, pot-meets-kettle, Carville. James you sound like the disgruntled fan in Bob Dylan's first "electric concert" screaming "Judas" as Dylan played his set; you're an anachronism - much like that fan - and the real Judas, who I suspect, will eventually betray Obama as well if he is the nominee - as you did John Kerry (and the American people) in 2004.
"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots