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It's getting nasty out there, folks

March 21, 2008 |  2:30 pm

Whatever happened to all that lovey-dovey stuff from the Democratic debates, when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sounded as if they were the co-presidents of the Candidates Mutual Admiration Society?

Today the Obamans railed against Clinton, with campaign manager David Plouffe calling her a "deeply flawed nominee," suggesting that if the Democrats went with her in the fall there'd be four more years of a Republican White House. "She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people," Plouffe said. "It will nearly be impossible to win a general election if more than half the electorate thinks you're untrustworthy."

The Clintonites tossed their own handful of rocks. In an unsigned e-mail to reporters this morning, the campaign accused Obama of disenfrachising voters and practicing "low-down politics" and concluded -- without citing anyone specific -- that "it’s no wonder that top journalists are calling the Obama campaign desperate, saying that it’s amateur hour in Chicago."

Alert the kids: Mom and Dad seem to be heading for divorce.

-- Scott Martelle


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If Florida and Michigan is allowed to redo their election, I want a redo in Texas where I live. Clinton ran a scare commercial day before the election. Now that everyone is off the scare, I want a revote in Texas

And we have five more months of it. Now that the Florida and Michigan issue won't be resolved until August, I can't imagine a scenario where this doesn't go all the way to the convention. Even if the superdelegates came together and announced support for Obama. Clinton would still argue that without knowing whether Florida and Michigan delgates will be seated, we don't know who won. Plus, simply announcing support does not obligate a superdelegate. Plenty have changed their minds, and Clinton will argue that she deserves the time to change them. After all, without Florida and Michigan, the "legitimacy" of the nominee is in question. Neither candidate is going to drop out until the convention, and, who knows, maybe even not then. I wouldn't put it past Clinton to run as an Independant.

Somebody needs to tell the Clintons, that they will have to try harder. Their campaign tactics are doing more harm than good. They are behind all the Wright stuff, Obama's passport fiddle, the Obama photo in Somali dress etc.

Hillary, don't insult the intelligence of the American people who can see through you. Don't push the Wright button too much, it may explode in your face. You don't want that, do you?

Obama is not the one desperate. You are the one who is desperate, which is why you are using every methods you can think of to get elected. What matters for you, is the end result. You do not give a toss how you get there. This is why all American citizens needs to be wary of the Clintons
[ http://kwame-mensan.blogspot.com/2008/03/hillary-clintons-motto-win-dem-partys.html ]

how does it feel to be on the ohter end of dirty politics? take it like a woMAN!

I'm not white, or black. I live in a relatively upscale part of Dallas. I drive to the unsafe parts of Dallas to help Meals On Wheels program. Many of the blacks that I deliver meals to told me not to be in that neighborhood at night. They are elderly african american senior citizens. The first time I went there to deliver means, I was afraid to drive on those streets. I wasn't sure if I will get back home alive. After a few days of meals delivery, I started to feel that the african americans in that part of town are not all violent people. Even though most of them had no jobs, and spent their time hanging out in the streets or in their apartment parking lots, they are calm people, just like me.

I used to get nervous when an african american male walks towards me. So, for those who cannot understand Obama's statement about his grandmom's fear of black people, when all you hear is bad things about a certain group of people, you tend to be afraid anyone belonging to that group, whether it is skin color or ethnicity. It is the samething as Jews fearing the wrath of Germans. The only difference is that a German cannot be easily distinguished unless he is waring German military uniform or gives the Hitler salute.

I am 42 years old, and I have never voted in any elections, mainly because all the candidated that we had were selfish liars. This time I am voting because I see an honest and trustworthy candidate, and that person is Barack Obama. I have contributed money and time for Obama, and I urge all who read this message to also pray for Obama, especially for his safety. I'm afraid that the Clintons will do anything to win the nomination, and I know what kind of underhanded things the Clintons are capable of committing. Those who lie for little things will commit bigger crimes for bigger things.

At least Obama can count. You want to talk about amateurs.....Bill Clinton told the world he had a surplus.....and that he was paying the debt down.
Search on yahoo, (Public Debt to the Penny). Look at the left hand side of the web site for, (History of Debt).

They have the debt listed in 50 year increments.
The last time the debt was paid down was 1957. George Bush gave everyone a tax cut on President Clintons lie.
Now we owe 9.4 Trillion dollars, and social security is at risk of failure.

Hillary Clinton has said she is going to save the mortgage mess with 30 billion dollars. $400,000.00 thousand dollars a house times 3 million homes in foreclosure equals $1,200,000,000,000.00 One Trillion Two hundred billion dollars.
At 3 percent interest....you would owe 36 billion dollars of interest on this much debt. Hillary must be paying the yearly interest. She obviously isn't going to put a dent in the problem.

Neither Hillary, or Bill Clinton can do fourth grade mathematics. The come up with screwy ideas with financial figures, from a one year olds mind. They can't compute simple mathematics to find a reasonable outcome to finances. And we want these clowns to lead the country again? If they can't count.....what good are they to anyone. We'll never get this mess straightened out with computational illiterates running the country.

Hmm, that's funny. The only person those things the Clinton campaign claimed were said about was Mrs' Clinton.

t's an easy mistake, seeing as a Google search of their own campaign policies would bring up those exact words about the Clinton campaign. Unsurprisingly, a Google search of those comments and Obama's name only brings up reports of Hillary Clinton's "low-down dirty politics" and her "attempst to disenfranchise voters" by suggesting the superdelegates should vote for her even though Obama wins the voters' backing.

without citing anyone specific -- that "it’s no wonder that top journalists are calling the Obama campaign desperate, saying that it’s amateur hour in Chicago."

That's because top journalists aren't calling Obama's campaign desperate...unsurprisingly.

Whilst..."One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives." - 3/21/08

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html

It is getting nasty, and it will only get worse. No matter who of Hillary or Obama gain the nomination, millions of Americans will fee cheated, especially after Obama disenfranchised millions of voters in Michigan and Florida by standing in the way of the revotes.

As true admirers of Ameican democracy we wish to congratulate Senator Obama for his inspiring campaign.We
look forward to meetig him in, Havana,Teheran,Caracas,
Tripoli or Pyong Yang on the day following his inauguration.
PS Our brothers in Pakistan are searching for a top notch
motivator to take charge of their country's Madrassas,
would you be so kind as to let Pastor Wright in on this as
we feel he would be the ideal candidate.

Thank you Raoul, Mahmoud, et al for posting above. I understand why you love Obama. You want to stop the killing of women and children and build your poverty stricken economies. He might negotiate with you and undo some of the havoc that I have created.
But what are a few women and children having food and medical supplies and schools compared to the greater good of industrial America.
The world needs a leader with his finger always on the button. And who would you have to hate if an American President was helpful and respectful of other cultures. The world cannot afford a President who talks. We need a Decider.

Fred and others. The State Party 'disenfranchised' voters by not following DNC rules. Blame them. Now hillary wants to change the rules because she thinks she will do well in those states.

Why Re-vote. She needs to win the Popular Vote to have any kind of argument with the Superdelegates. She cannot win the elected delegate total regardless of Fla and MI.

Her campaign is not proposing alternatives to seating delegates. For instance, a proportional split based on some formula. Or a Caucus. Because she wants to argue votes, not delegates.

So, she is just as much an obstacle as she is. It is politics. Let her compromise if she cares so much for the 'voters'...And if she were ahead, she would not be raising the issue.

Sure, vote for Obama. The most racist politician I have ever heard. Hear the Obama's pride for America. Michelle will surely be proud while Obama has his hand on the Koran. Perhaps he will let white granny out of her house watch. Oh, he can't he threw her under the bus. And that silly comment that a group of blacks made her nervous. If they were white you would have felt the same. Who are you kidding. Hear the motivational speeches. I hope that will be enough for you in the next four years. Speeches of hope; bringing the people together. That will be all you will get. Words, just words. He is an embarassment to American people who work hard every day to provide to their famlies. There are no ideas that are his own. He copies everything from speeches to ideas. I would rather have George Bush than Obomba.



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