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Hillary Clinton apologizes to African Americans for Bill's comments

File this under "Better late than never." The AP reports that Hillary Clinton apologized Wednesday night for Bill Clinton's comments during the South Carolina Democratic primary showdown with Barack Obama.

At a forum sponsored by an association of African American community newspapers, Clinton was asked about her husband's comments after Obama walked away with the South Carolina win in January. At the time, Bill Clinton pointed out that Rev. Jesse Jackson had won South Carolina in 1984 and 1988 -- campaigns that went nowhere. The comments were perceived as dismissing Obama's win, and many African Americans took umbrage.

"I want to put that in context," Hillary Clinton said Wednesday night. "You know I am sorry if anyone was offended. It was certainly not meant in any way to be offensive." She went on to say that "we can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama." And: "Anyone who has followed my husband's public life or my public life know very well where we have stood and what we have stood for and who we have stood with."

Coming just hours after Geraldine Ferraro quit as a Clinton fundraiser over her own race-tinged remarks, you have to wonder how much of Clinton's apology was sincere and how much was an attempt to smooth over a rift with a key part of the Democratic base.

And as our colleague Peter Wallsten points out in today's Times, race has become a persistent issue in the Democratic campaign despite Clinton and Obama's stated desires that the nomination fight be over issues. "This is a virtual race war, politically," the Rev. Eugene Rivers of Boston's Azusa Christian Community church told Wallsten. And depending on how the nomination fight ends, many African American voters could stay home in the fall.

--Scott Martelle

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Having meticulously planned their coveted return to the White House for several years now, the Clintons will certainly not exit the scene with grace or dignity. This is the political duo that honed "The Politics Of Personal Destruction" into an artform; and, most certainly will not tolerate, who is in their mind, the "upstart Obama" to derail Hillary's pre-choreographed coronation.
With regards Slick's comments on Obama's Iraq record; and, the draft dodger's false accusation of flip flopping on the Iraq issue against Obama: It was actually Hillary who was the serial flip-flopper on this issue. Obama to his credit, as a matter of conscience, refused to deny American troops the funding for the bullets and equipment that they required to survive in ongoing combat. Hillary, on the other hand, with no such compelling principles, was one of only two U.S. Senators who voted to deny funding for essential equipments for our troops who they had "previously" voted to commit to lethal combat. A despicable breach of trust with the young men and women laying their lives on the line in defense of our Nation. Obama made the classical rookie error of not responding to Slick's false accusation, which he could have easily turned to Hillary's well deserved detriment
Barrack and his supporters best be prepared for the "Political Lynching" that will rival anything previously witnessed in Presidential politics. Simply review the darkening of Obama's photograph by the Clinton machine. Further, the Clinton's methodical playing of the "Race Card" will promote a permanent schism between the Black and Hispanic communities. Despicable, and destructive to any semblence of National cohesion painfully achieved.
Slick and Hilla-the-Hun, the Perpetual Victim, have repeatedly demonstrated a vicious mud-slinger demeanor that is unprecedented whenever their political dynasty has been threatened in the past. There is no limit to the depth of their depravity. Just ask anyone of their innumerable victims.

Greg Neubeck

You know all this talk about Obama only being where he is because he's African-American is silly. He is running for president and so is Hilary.

Hilary started off with strong African-American support and has gradually lost that to Obama because he's the better candidate.

Hilary has a large portion of women voting for her, because she's a that sexist? probably, but no-one calls that out.

At the end of the day, when the democrats choose Obama as their candidate all democrats, white, black, hispanic, male, female, old or young will support him and he WILL get a large portion of independant and republican votes.

She actually appologized first at the Black Forum several months ago. So this is the second time.

I hope this is sincere. Hillary has acted more responsible lately. To that I thank her and give her credit. Perhaps after being initially defensive the reality of these comments from Ferraro and Bill have sunk in. We want this process to be about issues and about unity of the party and of the nation. I see Hillary finally understands what we mean by "Change." I think MJ said it best when he said "I'm talking 'bout the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways." Keep this up we might just have her for VP.

I have trouble with Democrats who seek to undo another Democrat by appealing to racial fears. It just is beyond belief. And then on top of that the Clintons used Republican tactics with the red phone. I just don't get it. I guess they have been hangng around Rupert Murdoch too much and he is despised by most of us. I have no affinity for the Clintons, and for America's predatory attempts to control trade, the dollar, oil and petrodollars at the expense of our trading partners. It is time that American fits in with the community of nations instead of being so arrogant. Our arrogance has our economic situation on the brink of disaster. We don't need 4 more years of Republican type policies.

I think it's pretty bad that she has to wait for pundits, polls and advisors to tell her when to have a conscience and when to act with integrity. If she had both, she would have immediately been bothered by the comments - Bill's and Ferraro's - and taken action. But she doesn't do that, and that speaks volumes about her character. Meanwhile, Obama continues to take the high road, acting with class and dignity.

Yeah right ... another example of Ms. Clintons lack of integrity. How can anyone consider her run ... she lack moral judgement and the mud slinging seems to be acceptable to the idiot voters of America

"I'm sorry you were offended!" is not an apology. I'm surprised at the title of this article. Ferraro said the same thing, you know. She was also sorry people were offended. That wasn't an apology either.

And we know Bill's comment wasn't 'meant to offend anybody'. It was meant to marginalize Obama's campaign and stir up latent racist feelings that would get some people to vote against him.

Unlike Bill's, Ferraro's comments weren't manipulative. The were honest expression of her true feelings, and proof that she is simply racist in denial.

Bill's comments were made out of frustration I believe, and Ferraro's were made based on the polling numbers. Obama has 90% of the black vote. How is that not race voting for race? Having said that, he is where he is due in great part to his race. Yes, he also has white support especially in the red states, but without the black vote he is where John Edwards is, out of the race. Boy, that's alot of colors isn't it? Anway, I'm true blue and will vote for whoever survives as the best candidate left. Wheww!

I would not call that an apology. In fact, it is in the same vien as Bill's original comment: Hillary tries to put Jessie Jackson and Barack Obama into the same category -sorry Hillary, I just do not see the similarity, perhaps you could clarify?


I'll file this article under "desperate housewife". Or "too little too late"? I vote for people who least insult my intelligence.


This is not an apology. It's just a reminder that Obama is black. Clinton's campaign, including Pa. Governor Rendell, have said there are white voters in Pa. who are not ready to vote for a black man. Obama can win only if he appeals to a multi-racial base in the state. Clinton's success lies in pigeonholing Obama as a black candidate so white Pa. voters alienate him. In the next six weeks, you will hear a lot coming from the Clinton campaign - in the form of Ferraro, or in the form of an "apology" - to remind us that Obama is black.

This is not an apology. It's a political tactic.

The Clintons have cynically manipulated the African American community since their days in Arkansas. The Harlem office? The "First Black President"?

Fake accents at churches? Comments by Bill in South Carolina and surrogates that stumble as they too try push the right buttons?

The definition of a con artist is someone who can perfectly imitate the actions of an honest person.

Are we just about done coddling the black man in general? Obama is a fine man I'm sure but, he and his supporters had better worry about having a thicker skin than the color of it. This is nothing so far. Wait till the heat is turned up and it will be. Lets face it, he has proven nothing yet,except, that he can speak well enough to get your attention. Also, last I checked freedom of speech is still a right. There is nothing wrong with a different perspective. Mr. Obama should gather his people together and tell them to shut up. The American public is smart enough to read between the lines and through other issues. "The race" have become the biggest racists. Think about it.

Maybe Mr. Obama should go back to discussing issues, like he did when he was told that he was boring and uninsirational. This race stuff is getting ridiculous and is going to make people (especially white people) nervouse, like being Catholic made people nervous about Kennedy. Subliminal, I think that is called. Basically, I think Hillary is good, very good. If Obama were not around, I'd be supporting her all the way. I'm afraid some people will choose her rather than the better one, because she is good and they are nevous about african american. Well, I'm going around in circles, but that is it!

Black voters staying home in the fall is not a major problem, we're talking 5% of the electorate maybe. What's a much bigger problem is that all those crossover Republicans and Archie Bunker dems who are voting for Hillary now will be voting McCain in the fall.

I would file it under - "Way too little and way too late." Keith Olbermann put it forcefully in his "Special Comment" last night. This has gone on far too long and far to consistently to be written off with a "sorry if anyone was offended" response.

As a Black American I don't believe that president Clinton meant anything racist behind what he said. I agree with him that if Obama thinks he's just going to waltz into the white house and everybody is going to love him and agree with what he says and do what he wants is a fairy tale. I don't care who likes you, no one is going to agree with you on everything. The fact is that he has nothing solid to show in his political career except that he is able to raise money because he's likable, I'm sorry but that is not a good enough reason for me to vote for him. And I believe the only reason he has the backing of so many politicians is probably because he called in his favors they owe him for money he has raised for their interest.


KEITH OLBERMANN: Finally, as promised, a special comment on the presidential campaign of the junior senator from New York. By way of necessary preface, President and Senator Clinton and the senator's mother and the senator's brother were of immeasurable support to me at the moments when these very commentaries were the focus of the most surprise, the most uncertainty and the most anger. My gratitude to them is unbiding.

Also, I am not here endorsing Senator Obama`s nomination, nor suggesting in it is inevitable. Thus I have fought with myself over whether or not to say anything. Events insist.

Senator, as it has reached its apex in their tone deaf, arrogant and insensitive reaction to the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro, your own advisers are slowly killing your chances to become president. Senator, their words and your own are now slowly killing the chances for any Democrat to become president. In your tepid response to this Ferraro disaster, you may sincerely think you disenthralling an enchanted media and righting an unfair advance bestowed on Senator Obama. You may think the matter has closed with Representative Ferraro's bitter, almost threatening resignation letter.

But, in fact, senator, you are now campaigning as if Barack Obama were the Democrat and you were the Republican. As Shakespeare wrote, senator, "that way madness lies." You have missed a critical opportunity to do what was right. No matter what Miss Ferraro now claims, no one took her comments out of context. She had made them on at least there separate occasions, then twice more on television this morning. Just hours ago, on "NBC Nightly News," she denied she had made the remark in an interview, only at a paid political speech.

In fact, the first time she spoke them was 10 days before that California newspaper published them, not in a speech, but in a radio interview. On February 26, quoting, "if Barack Obama were a white man, would we be talking about this as a potential real problem for Hillary. If he were a woman of any color, would he be in this position that he's in? Absolutely not."

The content was inescapable. Two minutes earlier, a member of Senator Clinton's finance committee, one of her Hill-Raisers had bemoaned the change in allegiance by super delegate John Lewis from Clinton to Obama and also the endorsement of Obama by Senator Dodd; "I look at these guys doing it," she had said, "and I have to tell you, it`s the guys sticking together."

A minute after the color remark, she was describing herself as having been chosen for the 1984 Democratic ticket purely as a woman politician, purely to make history. She was, in turn, making a blind accusation of sexism and dismissing Senator Obama`s candidacy as nothing more than some equal opportunity stunt.

The next day, she repeated her comments and a reporter from the newspaper in Torrence, California heard them; "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. If he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is and the country is caught up in the concept."

And when this despicable statement, ugly in its overtones, laughable in its week grip of the facts, and moronic in the historical context, when it floats outward from the Clinton campaign like a poison cloud, what do the advisers have their candidate do? Do they have Senator Clinton herself compare the remark to Al Campanis (ph) talking on "Nightline" on Jackie Robinson Day about how blacks lack the necessities to become baseball executives, while she points out that Barack Obama has not gotten his 1600 delegates as part of some kind of affirmative action plan?

Do they have Senator Clinton note that her own brief period in elected office is as irrelevant to the issue of judgment as is Senator Obama's, while she points out that FDR had served only six years as governor and state senator before he became president? Or that Teddy Roosevelt had four and a half years before the White House? Or that Woodrow Wilson had two years and six weeks?

Or Richard Nixon 14? And Calvin Coolidge 25?

Do these advisers have Senator Clinton invoke Samantha Power, gone by sunrise after she used the word monster, and have Senator Clinton say, this is how I police my campaign, and this is what I stand for, while she fires former Congresswoman Ferraro from any role in the campaign? No, somebody tells her that simply disagreeing with, then rejecting the remarks is sufficient. She should then call regrettable words that should make any Democrat retch.

And that she should then try to twist them, first into some pox on both your houses plea to stick to the issues, and then to let her campaign manager try to bend them beyond all recognition into Senator Obama's fault. And thus these advisers give Congresswoman Ferraro nearly a week in which to send Senator Clinton`s campaign back into the vocabulary of David Duke; "anytime anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says, let`s address reality and the problems we're facing in this world, you`re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up. Racism works in two different directions. I really think they are attacking me because I'm white. How's that?"

How's that? Apart from sounding exactly like Rush Limbaugh attacking the black football quarterback Donovan McNab, apart from sounding exactly like what Miss Ferraro said about another campaign nearly 20 years ago, quote, "President Reagan suggested Tuesday that people don't ask Jesse Jackson tough questions because of his race. Former Representative Geraldine A. Ferraro said Wednesday that because of his, quote, radical views, if Jesse Jackson were not black, he would not be in the race."

So apart from sounding like insidious racism that is at least two decades old, apart from rendering ridiculous Senator Clinton`s shell game about choosing Obama as vice president, apart from this evenings resignation letter; "I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign. The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you."

Apart from all that, well, it sounds as if those advisers wanted their campaign to be associated with those words, and the cheap, ignorant, vile racism that underlies every syllable of them, and that Geraldine Ferraro has just gone freelance.

Senator Clinton, that is not a campaign strategy. This is a suicide pact. This week alone, your so-called strategists have declared that Senator Obama has not yet crossed some commander in chief threshold, but he might still be your choice to be vice president, even though a quarter of
the previous 16 vice presidents have become commander in chief during the greatest kind of crisis this country can face, a midterm succession, but you only pick him if he crosses that threshold by the time of the convention.

But if he does cross that threshold by the time of the convention, he will only have done so sufficiently enough to become vice president, not president? Senator, if the serpentine logic of your so-called advisers were not bad enough, now thanks to Geraldine Ferraro and your campaigns initial refusal to break with her, and your new relationship with her, now more disturbing still with her claim that she can now speak for herself about her vision as Senator Obama as some kind of embodiment of a quota if she wishes.

If you were to seek Obama as a vice president, it would be to Miss Ferraro some called of social engineering gesture, some kind of racial make good. Do you not see, senator?

To Senator Clinton`s supporters, to her admirers, to her friends for whom she is first choice and to her friends for whom she is second choice, she is still letting herself be perceived as standing next to and standing by racial divisiveness and blindness. Worse yet, after what President Clinton said during the South Carolina primary, comparing the Obama and Jesse Jackson campaigns, a disturbing but only border line remark, after what some in the black community have perceived as a racial undertone to the 3:00 a.m. ad, a disturbing but only borderline interpretation, and after the moments hesitation in her own answer on "60 Minutes" about Obama's religion, a disturbing but only borderline vagueness -- after those precedents, there are those who see a pattern. False or true, they see it. After those precedents, there are those who see an intent. False or true, they see it. After those precedents, there are those that see the Clinton campaign`s anything but benign neglect of the Ferraro catastrophe, falsely or truly, as a desire to hear the kind of casual prejudice which still haunts the society voiced, and to not distance the campaign from it.

To not distance you from it, Senator. To not distance you from that which you, as a woman, and Senator Obama, as an African-American, should both know and feel with the deepest of personal pain, which you should both fight with all you have, which you should both ensure has no place in this contest ever.

This, Senator Clinton, is your campaign and it is your name. Grab the reigns back from whoever has led you to this precipice before it is too late. Voluntarily or inadvertently, you are still awash in this filth. Your only reaction has been to disagree, reject, to call it regrettable. Her only reaction has been to brand herself as the victim and resign from your committee and insist she will continue to speak. Unless, senator, you say something definitive, the former congresswoman is speaking with your

You must remedy this and you must reject and denounce Geraldine Ferraro. Good night and good luck.

To all people of good will, especially to my fellow Black citizens, I think the Clintons have shown the world by their remarks and behaviours in this campaign exactly what they are - White people who try to profit from their alleged close affinity to black people and black culture. The Clintons were and always will be frauds. Their supposed attachment to Black people was and is nothing but a transparent sham, used to benefit them in a calculating way. They truly never had genuine respect for Blacks. It was nothing more than a political ploy that paid off.

To Toni Morrison, or the person that had the nerve to say that Bill Clinton was "our first president," that person needs to be horsewhipped for such an outrageous lie. The truth is in their actions. They can not help but stumble over themselves to prevent a REAL Black person from being president, and that includes the ugly way in which both are exploiting Obama's race in this campaign. I will forever turn my back on the Clintons. Phony friends they are!!! Get the hell out of Harlem, Bill. Your welcome is over!!!

And I don’t suppose that Hillary understands that by apologizing to a “black audience” she will be perceived as pandering to the African American community, which in some people’s minds will only underscore Ferraro’s comments. Why couldn’t’ she have made her comments while campaigning to a larger mixed audience in Pennsylvania, that would have appeared more sincere, or could it be that she did not want to be perceived by her white supporters as making concessions to the black community..

By speaking to a specific audience she has provided additional fodder to those who already agree with Ferraro’s despicable remarks and also provided me with an additional reason I would never in good conscience vote for anyone as calculating as Hillary Clinton..

Above comments about this 'apology' just being another way to focus the campaign on race make a lot of sense. I would like to emphasize that the the steady focus on race by the Hillary campaign is particularly problematic where they have fanned the flames of the divisions between the black and hispanic communities. Many innocent people have lost their lives because of the rivalry that has arose out of fighting for the scraps of the white man's table. For a campaign that is supposed to be representing the progressive interest of both of those communities to pit them against each other is treasonous.

What the Clinton campaign is trying to do is chillingly scary. Having failed to get the popular vote or scare the people with their fear-mongering tactics they are now trying to use that old American bugaboo - race. Shame on you, Hillary!

Hilary Clinton could have displayed this diplomacy a long time ago. I feel her diplomacy and apologies have come too late. Apology now appears to be more related to news media pressure. Her comments and actions coming this late do not carry message these are her personal views.

I was originally excited about Hilary Clinton running for President. The stances and actions during the course of her campaign have been disappointing. Hilary Clinton campaign blamed Barack Obama Campaign for explosive pulbic reaction to Geradine Gerarro's racial comments. Hilary and Geradine are experienced politicans. Geraldine Ferarro stood by her comments and would not back down until last night. But still stands by what she said. Geraldine is claiming discrimination. Hilary Clinton soft pedaled the racial issues. Her campaign manager also blamed Barack Abama. Hilary is strong candidate, but am alarmed at the continued undertones her campaign conveys in attempts to gain more votes. I am personally familiar how political strategies are lobbied. I feel this was indeed an alarming political strategy by Hilary Clinton. Stances, actions, and reactions by her campaign are documented facts.

Race or gender bias has no place in society today. Hilary should have been angry at comments also. She wasn't. Bill Clinton and Geradine would have been disciplined or fired if their comments had been work related. This is 2008!!!!

I am also familiar with the different opinions regarding affirmative action. Programs had pluses and minuses. All programs do. Many of these programs are now being phased out. A person should be respected and earn their position no matter what race or gender they are. We have come a long way regarding racial or gender biases.

The next hot topic will be Michigan and Florida re-vote. I will be watching and evaluating this dilemma. I feel very sorry for all registered voters in these states. If a re-vote is approved - it must be conducted with fairness. No political improprieties! I am disturbed Hilary Clinton stance has mentioned counting the votes as they are. What about all those who did not show because voters felt votes did not count? What about candidate campaigns in those states for fairness? Etc? List of my questions are quite long.

FYI - I am conservative, caucasian, midwestern raised republican, but have decided to be vote Democratic if Barack Obama is Presidential candidate. I am California taxpayer residing in San Francisco Bare Area. I attempt to be fair and non- biased


First, I would be curious to know whether Ferraro's comments were orchestrated by the Clinton camaign. The process for all campaigns seems to have surrogates do the dirty work, which would be even more despicable. And they have been raising race since SC.

It seems to me that anyone who would use race to divide the country is not qualified to be President, regardless of any other abilities. And the Clinton disavowal of the explosive comment seems a little half-hearted and slow in coming. It is a character issue.

I must add that I certainly disagree with her statement that Obama is where he is because he is a black man. Look at the demographics of his support before race was injected by Bill in SC. They had a problem but their tactic backfired.

From the beginning, Obama offered a message of hope and change. Even if you buy the Clinton arguments, his message of hope and change attracted voters, and probably at times in spite of race, not because of it. Especially with young voters.

What is wrong with the Ferraro statement is that it is simply not true. A Woman or White Male would be in Obamas position if they had his message.And that is Hillarys frustration. She cannot run against Hope. She cannot be the Hope candidate. (Try to imagine that). And her other messages have not resonated outside her core constituence.

So she is left with trying to make it a black-white campaign to increase her position with white male voters. Nice.

We can only hope that Ameica across all groups is ready to move on from the politcs of the Ferraro generation and that she simply has not woken up to the fact. It was a wonderful feeling to see a woman and Black run without race being an issue, if only for a moment.

As one pundit put it, "She must club the baby seal to win" And that appears to be what she is trying.

I'm a democrat, but if hillary wins the nomination, i hope mccain wins the general election. Hillary is a monster.

The pot doesn't fall from the kettle. Your husband has been accused of rape and you still stand behind him. Shame on you and any woman that votes for you because they also will turn a blind eye to rape victims.

Move on from racial politics but not the facts. It is true, is it not ,that more than 80% of african-americans who have voted in the democratic primaries have voted for Obama. Makes one wonder who the racists are.

To paraphrase Hillary: "Yeah, let's be proud of Obama -- he's doing real good ... for a black man."

Anyone think Geraldine Ferraro would have been Mondale's VP running mate in 84 if she were not a woman? Anyone think Hillary would be NY Senator if she were not Ms. POTUS?

Give Clinton-bashing a break. Ferraro is entitled to her comments. She was on a volunteer committee for Hillary and not an advisor in any capacity. Hillary has said she did not agree with the comments and apologized. What more do you want? The racial undercurrents of this campaign have been fanned by the Obama camp, abetted by the media and it is near hysterical levels. If you want to vote for Obama that’s your prerogative. But don’t denigrate Hillary Clinton and blame her for every comment about Obama that is not as effusive as you would like, just to rationalize your vote. You won’t convince any one.

I'm very concerned for the Democratic party. When it's time to vote in November, we will have chosen one of these people. If this trashing of each other continues, the confidence in the party will be lowered, and we will have a much harder time winning the general election. I would really like for each candidate to focus on why we *should* vote for them, rather than what is wrong with the other candidate. If they must speak negatively about someone, why not McCain? That is the real person they are running against, the election that will matter most to the entire country. Obama has done a much better job of staying away from negative politics, and I hope he continues to do so. Some of Hillary's tactics have been shameful.

She went on to say that "we can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama."

This is an "apology" for her husband having disparagingly compared Obama's campaign to Jesse Jackson's 1984 campaign???? You're kidding, right?

The problem with this "race" issue is that one camp can't resist the temptation to introduce it and the other camp is overly sensitive about it. What is wrong about discussing race? It is as though by merely mentioning it is the greatest sin of the land. Democracy cannot advance if people are not allowed to openly debate the race issue. Bill was intentional to bring the race issue up in a negative way while Ferraro's comments were perfectly legidiment and Obama's camp was trying to take advantage of it. Both were dirty tricks of course.

One knows how to settle if this were an apology or not. We'll have an Los Angeles Times colleague take off all her make-up and if she's not a natural beauty, than Hillary Clinton is a fake...Elizabeth Snead, start takin' the paint off your house honey...goodness, what's that smell?

It's the news that keeps reporting how separate groups support different candidates. They reported at one point that half of women support Clinton, while 80-90% of blacks support Obama. Some groups consider race as more of an important factor in their decisions than others. Certain groups support certain candidates because they relate or identify themselves somehow with the candidate. Pointing that out doesn't make you a racist, and pointing that out didn't make Bill Clinton a racist either.

Just a thought...

Did the debate over affirmative action never happen!? How about a reappraisal of the Clintons' philosophical leanings on affirmative action in the context of this presidential race.

"Let me make this clear: Affirmative action is good
for America... Let's mend, not end it... When affirmative action
is done right, it is flexible, it is fair, and it works."

National Archives, Washington D.C., 1995

Why should the office of president be held to any different standard than the rest of the nation. This is one case where there most certainly exists a substantial chasm in "equality of opportunity" for the job at stake! Hillary ought to step aside and allow the "less-qualified" candidate the job. Talk about a double-standard. Politicians NEVER practice what they preach!

Posted by: Nicholas Lefevre | March 13, 2008 at 08:31

AM I would file it under - "Way too little and way too late." Keith Olbermann put it forcefully in his "Special Comment" last night. This has gone on far too long and far to consistently to be written off with a "sorry if anyone was offended" response.
Nicholas, thank you so very much for sharing. Finally, someone in the media tells it like it is! I applaud Keith Olbermann!

The Clintons have shown time and time again they are the deviders of this great country.

1) Playing the racism card
2) Pitting Hispanics against African Americans
3) Pitting Whites against African Americans
4) Stating ONLY the BIG states with BIG delegates are important
5) Degrading the smaller states as not important or that they do not matter
6) Degrading the causes as undemocratic and not part of the election process
7) Constantly personally attacking Senator Obama's character and merits
8) Allows and, I am sure encourages her campaign team and supporters to make incidious racial and religious comments regarding Senator Obama
9) Outright lies about and slanders Senator Obama
10) Hillary is destroying the democratic party, our democracy, and our natoin.

I am ashamed Hillary lives in this country and I am even more ashamed she is running for the most critical office in our land. I am ashamed so many people choose to overlook Hillary's incidious character and horrid slash-and-burn tactics. I am ashamed Hillary is a member of my gender. I am ashamed of Hillary and Bill!

The world is watching and I am sure their thoughts and opinions of the Clintons has reached new levels of disdain. How can anyone admire such a vicious, hypcrital, and self-serving woman? How can Bill Clinton allow his statesmanship to reach the lowest levels of hypocracy? The Clintons have fallen to the lowest levels of hell, all because Hillary believes she is the "invetable nominee" and is so hungry for power at any cost! The Clintons will be remembered for their horrific negitives and will find themselves in a world where they are dispised and shunned.

America deserves much better than what the Clintons have to offer!!

What I finding offending when Bill says that Jesse won South Carolina and went nowhere is the fact that since and before Jesse, other candidates Democrats and Republicans have won South Carolina and gone nowhere. The choice of Jesse as an illustration for what Obama's win in South Carolina means is what is interesting - smells racist to me.

Bottom line: America is NOT ready to vote for non-white, male OR female candidate. And that's the sad truth.

It's the news that keeps reporting how separate groups support different candidates. They reported at one point that half of women support Clinton, while 80-90% of blacks support Obama. They also said that some groups currently consider race as more of an important factor in their decisions than others. Certain groups support certain candidates, and sometimes it's because they relate or identify themselves somehow with the candidate. Pointing that out doesn't make you a racist, and pointing that out didn't make Bill Clinton a racist either.

To alee21,

Please, this is politics and every comment, whether in context or taken out of context, is part of the game.

Wake-up Toto, you're not in Kansas anymore !


It is not the race issue that people is bashing Hillary. It is her double standard regarding Power's monster remark. Power's comments should be left alone so did Ferraro's. If Hillary wants to jump on Power, then the other side will jump on Ferraro. Too bad, both camps are also using the media to fan the fiasco. They both got back what they deserve--away from the main issues. This is a grand mess of the Democrats.

Posted by: sheb | March 13, 2008 at 08:35 AM

As a Black American I don't believe that president Clinton meant anything racist behind what he said. I agree with him that if Obama thinks he's just going to waltz into the white house and everybody is going to love him and agree with what he says and do what he wants is a fairy tale. I don't care who likes you, no one is going to agree with you on everything. The fact is that he has nothing solid to show in his political career except that he is able to raise money because he's likable, I'm sorry but that is not a good enough reason for me to vote for him. And I believe the only reason he has the backing of so many politicians is probably because he called in his favors they owe him for money he has raised for their interest.
Sheb, you really ought to inform yourself on realty and facts before making your comments.

"Senator Clinton has based her campaign on an erroneous claim to greater legislative and administrative experience. Former President Clinton talks up her role in his administration on the campaign trail but pointedly refuses to release any documents that would provide greater details on her actual activities there. It is broadly understood that Hillary spearheaded the response team that staved off Republican attacks and spun the many scandals of the Clinton years. As to her Senate record, no one in the press has had the diligence to lay out her record for the public to assess.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (, but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since enter the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record for someone who supposedly has no record according to the spin meisters and mindless twits. I challenge Clinton supporters to name a single legislative accomplishment that demonstrates her superior experience."

Posted by: Mark | F

John Smith - you are as stupid as you are naive. Blacks make up 15% of the electorate and over 20% of the Dem electorate. So if they stay home, the Dems are in *big* trouble. They are a key 'swing' population, especially in states with large Electoral College votes and can determine if a state goes Blue or Red.

That's why HillBilly is going after the Hispanic vote, with its similar population demographics. It hasn't worked out -quite- the way she hoped, cynically dumping the black population and assuming they'll vote Blue in the fall. True, polls indicate only 1% of blacks will vote Republican if Obama doesn't win, but many also state they won’t vote at all! If 90% stay away in protest you may see black districts go Red for the first time since Reconstruction. Many blacks say they feel betrayed by the Clintons. Thus this fallacy that blacks are voting for Obama out of some brainless racial pride is ridiculous and offensive - it has much more to do with Clinton's gaffes. Why is it that whites think ideological choice and voter outrage is only be reserved for them?

Obama has 90% of the black vote because black people see him as the best candidate and are voting as such. Perhaps he doesn't have 90% of the white vote because, although many white people might see him as the best candidate, they will not vote for him because he is black. Obama is not where he is because he is black, he is where he is despite the fact he is black.

Is the evident lack of widespread incredulity at Barack Obama's ridiculous claim of being "change we can believe in" not indicative of poor judgment among a large segment of America’s Democratic voters? While some Democrats may wish to ignore the fact that Obama is a political neophyte, who has spent fully half of the first half of his first term in the Senate running for the Presidency, by doing they may foist another amateur on the nation. This would be especially bizarre coming from the Left, after eight years of slamming Bush for being ill-equipped for the Presidency. In the wake of Bush's ineptitude America needs the competency that comes from experience. That is where our nation should find its “hope”. Anyway, far from the transformational figure he conjures, Obama has revealed himself to be an all-too-familiar breed of political animal while on the campaign trail.
The most disconcerting aspect of this has been the sophisticated race-baiting Obama has engaged in since January, when he unreasonably criticized Clinton's innocuous LBJ/MLK comment. The “Afro-Saxon” candidate correctly gambled that he is just black enough to get away with it unchallenged. Now the Democratic Party is threatened with coming apart over the divisions this contest for the nomination has exacerbated. Forget health-care reform or Iraq: race and gender are the defining and most troublesome issues of this campaign. Both candidates are reluctant to directly confront the subjects and the pusillanimity of the media and Party establishment intensifies their aversion. Yet by speaking surreptitiously to the issue of race, Obama has proven himself to be a great and shameless manipulator. He has underhandedly used racial politics and expectations of prejudice in a pandering fashion to indirectly attack his opponent. Geraldine Ferraro was exactly right about the otherwise unremarkable soothsayer from Chicago; feigned outrage to deflect the public from the merit of her observations (among many other valid criticisms) via appeals to alleged racial “insensitivity” demonstrate Obama’s cynical methods. In this context it should be noted that Obama has not condemned the plainly misogynistic “Billary” aspersions regularly directed at his opponent. This, very likely (and however counter-intuitively), is because as a mixed-race man misogyny and racial prejudice both work in his favor. Obama can essentially have it both ways, hypocritically ignoring the vicious chauvinism of his opponent’s enemies while inaccurately attributing any criticisms directed at him to racial prejudice in order to “rise above” such alleged abuse. It isn’t ironic then that if he gets the nomination this year it will be for winning the votes of upper middle-class, educated whites who don’t care about his race along with the votes of blacks, who, caring about little else, have voted for him as a block. Whence then, the racism in this race?
The freshman Senator from Illinois would have done better for the Party and America by waiting to run for the Presidency in 2016. Neither the fact that he has support or that money is in ample supply can diminish what a charlatan he is for running now with no record to stand on. Rather, his decision to do so chiefly serves to expose his conceited drive for power and highlights what a conventional politician he actually is. Like it or not the Democrats need a candidate of Hillary’s caliber. America would be inestimably better off with her, too. Better one who is smart and experienced in the White House than yet another charismatic fraud. Whatever her faults Hillary, at the very least, is all that for which she stands. To Obama’s glib “yes we can”, will Democrats be judicious enough to answer “But we won’t”? We will find out this summer. Whither America if misplaced hope, misogyny and racial posturing prevail over reason?

Funny how headlines like these dont appear more frequently instead: Obama Tax Plan Focuses on Income Inequality, Clinton's on Behavior Changes from Bloomberg.

Google for the link.

"I am sorry if..." isn't an apology - "I am sorry." is. The Clintons don't know how to do two things: 1. They don't know how to be gracious in defeat, and 2. They don't know how to take complete responsibility for their actions or non-actions. Either they apologize and then point out the bad things others do, or they say, 'I am sorry if..."

Sorry - That isn't a sorry...

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