Hillary Clinton would not have sat in one of Rev. Wright's pews

It took awhile, but Hillary Clinton finally threw the Rev. Jeremiah Wright under the bus (just who is the driver of that oft-cited vehicle, anyway?).

Sitting down earlier today with a crew of journalists from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Clinton said of the controversial Wright: "He would not have been my pastor."

In a pretty clear reference to Barack Obama's previous description of Wright as an uncle-like figure to him -- someone you're fond of but who occasionally drives you batty with nutty comments -- Clinton added, "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."

Clinton and her usually eager-to-pounce staff had been atypically silent as Obama was forced to confront incendiary comments on black/white relations that Wright had sprinkled into sermons over the years (hyping the furor, in this case, would have seemed like piling on).

But with her comments today ...

Clinton is keeping attention focused on a question that lingers for Obama in the aftermath of his generally well-received speech on racial tensions last week: why did he maintain his membership in Wright's church?

Given her remark, we also imagine that someone from the Obama camp may be checking out the rhetorical records of pastors at the services she and her husband attended during their many years in Little Rock.

Another response Clinton gave to the Pittsburgh newspaper that may not get as much attention -- but is worthy of note -- concerns the flap spurred by her exaggerated recollection of her trip to Bosnia while she was first lady.

Clinton blames "sleep deprivation" for her erroneous recent recollection that she and her traveling party -- which included daughter Chelsea -- were under sniper fire when their plane landed in Bosnia in 1996.

The Tribune-Review story on its conversation with Clinton can be seen here.

-- Don Frederick

Comments

[carol]

The question I am sure was brought up by a member of the press. She responded like so many other Americans would have ....why would you stay at that church?

Of course, the media and Obama loyalists will bring up the "race card" again....the only defense they know. However, it is okay to bring up her husband's indescretions.

[C Watson]

It’s amazing what happens when you hear the pastor’s quotes in the context they were delivered. See the posters comments below CNN’s Roland Martin articles:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-wright%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cgod-damn-america%e2%80%9d-sermon/?s-%20?god-damn-america%20?-sermon/

I can’t say I subscribe to everything the pastor has said but I can say that it makes a heck of a difference when you hear them within the sermon.

This is a largely smear campaign. If they can’t nail the candidate, then they have to go after someone close to them to try to make the candidate look bad. Eventually, this story is going to come out – that Rev. Wright isn’t as bad as a few out of context clips make him out to be and most rational people will calm down.

[Robert Barnett]

Hilary is a wacko that supports killing the unborn. I hope she continues to keep walking away from the media and onto the tarmac.

[J Cline]

No white person in their right mind would have been sitting in one of Rev. Wright's pews as he ranted and spewed hatred against non-blacks. Clinton's just saying what any of us would have done. I'd never have set foot in any church calling itself "unapologetically black". Why sit and listen to bigotry?

That remains a valid question for Obama, who has dodged it so far -- but come November, he'll have no choice but to answer for it. And those Democrats stupid enough to endorse him will once again lose the White House.

[Ray Andrews]

Think about this for a moment:

Clinton blames "sleep deprivation" for her erroneous recent recollection that she and her traveling party -- which included daughter Chelsea -- were under sniper fire when their plane landed in Bosnia in 1996.

Now quick! Who do you want to answer the phone at 3:00 in the morning now?

[Mike Harrington]

Hillary seems to live in the same world as Bush. They both make things up, and say things that are totally bull and then smile and say "I didn't sleep well that night" Or Cheney didn't tell me what to say.
4000 dead and climbing.

[kay temmel]

This is just an attempt to change the subject. We are all talking about her "misspeaking" about her Bosnia trip today and she needed to change the subject quick. This woman will do anything to win. It is an embarrassment and makes me sick to my stomach

[eb]

of course she would have if it had served her purpose....just another lie...Billary never had a problem with seeking advantages for themselves and prostituting themselves to get what they want: power and anything that comes with it.,,,,,sick sick people.

[Tim Schaal]

In 1848, while serving as a congressman from the state of Illinois, Abraham Lincoln said in a speech given in the chambers of the United States House of Representatives the following:

"The true rule, in determining to embrace or reject any thing, is not whether it has any evil in it; but whether it has more of evil than of good. There are few things wholly evil or wholly good. Almost every thing ... is an inseparable compound of the two; so that our best judgment of the preponderance between them is continually demanded."

Jeremiah Wright, Obama's church, etc., all fit into this - as does his grandmother. They are not wholly evil or wholly good. So doesn't Obama deserve the benefit of doubt when he says:

"And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way.

But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS. "

Obama is embodying in this statement the very nature of what Lincoln said. So for 20 years Obama made the best judgment about Reverend Wright and Trinity United Church of Christ based on the preponderance of both the evil and the good. And in his measured judgment the good outweighed the evil.

Take a few minutes and read Reverend Wright's Hope ( http://allied.blogspot.com/2008/03/audacity-of-hope.html ) sermon. It is not full of venom, or anti-American statements, or anything like the snippets we have seen recently. It is a sermon, based on scripture, I would likely hear in my church which is over 90% white, or any one of thousands of churches across this land. I would think this was probably more the norm at Trinity United than the clips we are seeing - otherwise we would be seeing more and more and more clips. The man had to have made over 1,000 sermons in the past 20 years - and we have heard and seen snippets from three or four of them.

So perhaps Obama was hearing a lot of good Biblical based sermons while he set in the pew at Trinity United. And consider as well all the good Trinity United does in the community. Then, in his judgment, which I have found to be very sound over the past year, the "inseparable compound" of good and evil that make up Wright and Trinity United has more good than evil.

[TWstroud]

Too bad she didn't then apologize to her fans and loved ones and check into rehab for truth therapy.

[Kim]

Wow...seriously?? Good thing she won't be 'sleep deprived' when she has to answer that phone call at 3am.

[Tim from Harbor City]

On saying last week that she landed under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia in 1996, when she was first lady:

"I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke."

Hope she isn't ever sleep deprived when she has to answer that phone at 3 AM.

Barack Obama is the very kind of person you want to answer that phone. Calm, cool, collected, even tempered, level headed. I can't think of anyone else I would to answer that phone.

[cdl]

What I want to know most about Obama, and his pastor, is beyond the "it's because" dialogue.
Do both also speak to their communities about why so many black Americans are raised in single family homes without father's, why so many do not take advantage of free education, and programs that target youth for success instead of dropping out funded by the taxpayers?? Haven't heard it.
Obama's speech is not the first "it's because" speech. He fell short of offering up a dialogue that challenges the truth we face in America in an honest way. And sadly, he is the only candidate that can do so, and not be labeled a 'racist' for doing it.
There are many improvements that were not even mentioned, many success stories, many roll models of black heritage. Look at our television newscasters, journalists, sitcoms, movie stars, athletes, military officers, college professors, judges, politicans, etc.. But somehow we only got an "It's because" speech??
Do I live on another planet than Obama? Where was the hope in that??
There are some who are stuck on the merry-go-'round of the same ol', same ol'. Let's go in a straight, and honest way toward the future. It's not enough to 'hope' for change. It's work. And, plenty has already been done, the challenge is celebrating that, and building on it.

[David]

Why would she sit in Rev. Wright's church. It is a church filled with poor Black people. Hillary "liar" Clinton is rich white woman. Why would she want to sit with poor people, unless of course it is election time and cameras are rolling. Believe this Hillary "liar" Clinton: In the end, TRUTH will always win.

[TWstroud]

It suddenly occurs to me that if HRC lies and otherwise exercises poor judgement when she is sleepy, then she should not be answering any 3 a.m. calls.

[carolynw]

I hope your paper will give equal time to Hillary's affiliation with the "religious group" called The Family in Washington which Hillary has made a point of associating with while in Washington. It is certainly worth investigating. The group and the pastor/head of that group are rather sinister in their mission, of an elite Christian elect to rule the world, among other things. A quick google will reveal some very interesting findings.
Hillary's campaign should be given 10 gold stars for its stellar hipocrisy from day one of her campaign.

[THOMAS]

Where was the media coverage when Guiliani embraced the backing of Rev. Robertson? The same Rev. Pat Robertson who called for the assasination of Hugo Chavez, as well as a nuclear detonation of the U.S. State Department.

Where was the media coverage when the self proclaimed Messiah of the world, Rev. Moon and ex-con. backed both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. for president? As usual, hypocrisy runs deep in the conservative movement as well as anywhere else.

[Franklin]

Really... "sleep deprivation"? I guess that's why the account appeared during two sets of prepared speeches. Maybe she misread speeches based on her memory both times.

Of course, no one should focus on that. It's only one of the last few shreds of her 'experience' that she's clinging to.

But instead, she'll do some damage control by bringing up Wright's name again. Expect to see her use this as a life preserver from here on out.

[Matt]

Hillary, if you release your tax returns now maybe it will refresh your memory on a few things. Like tax shelters in the Cayman Islands perhaps. Then you won't be misspeaking anymore and you'll probably sleep better as a consequence.

[Web Smith]

Someone should be delving into what went on in Arkansas during the Clintons' administration. Sex, drugs, and murder is not too far beneath the surface. Neither are Bill's draft dodging war protester days at Oxford where he became good buddies with many of the self proclaimed socialists and communists on the campus.

While Hillary's Presidential campaign may be taking some illusionary sniper fire, he run for the Big House is enjoying an increasing amount of grass roots support.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019&q=hILLARY+EXPOSED&total=452&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Sylvia]

If Senator Clinton ever gets into the White House she will invite the pastor to dinner just like Bill did. Why not?

Watching media reports is watching this brilliant woman chasing her democrat rival every single day with the goal posts in hand.

here we can get the superdelegates. here we can get the pledged delegates. here we are better on the red phone. here we are heroic as we endured sniper fire with our daughter. here we can use the electoral college. here we can go back on our commitment to never mind florida and michigan because they didn't follow the rules for primary. here we can use this or that tactic of if i scare you you will vote for me.

did anybody tell her the republicans are changing registration party to vote for her in primary because they think they can defeat her in november?

how presidential is this?

[TW]

What convenient timing for her to finally make statements regarding this issue. She is quiet until she has a contorversy of her own to divert attention from.

Come on.

[erich]

If Senator Clinton feels the need to keep this issue and it's misdirection alive perhaps the MSM could at the very least delve into her long term association with the dominionist group "The Fellowship"/"The Family" for some parity...

[mike]

The biggest problem i have with Obama is that so little is known about him. He still refuses to disown his pastors comparing him to his white grandmother. I dont think he should have equated his white grandmother to a pastor how is full of hate.

what else will come out! I just saw a video on utube of a guy saying that he had given obama oral sex i think someone needs to look into his past.

[caliman]

Barak Obama's embrace of a bigoted racist pastor for twenty years means he fails the minimum level of civic decency we expect from someone who wants to be president of all Americans.

[David Saia]

A complete an utter fabrication... based on "sleep deprivation"? Maybe she was suffering from insomnia when she voted to authorize this disastrous war without even reading the intelligence report.

[Rajah Kahn]

Never walked out on Bill Clinton when he had all those numerous affairs.....Pastor Wright is not married to Obama. you were married to Bill who practised infidelity almost right in front of your eyes and you never left him...So what are you saying now, is also a mistake...You cannot be trusted....

[IG]

Wow, Really? Then why did Bill Clinton invited Rev. Wright to a braekfast prayer when Bill Clinton was President? Obviously, Rev wright has other admirable qualities inspite of that unfortunate footage that's been circultaed. Or else that footage is taken out of context to make a desired impression on viewers.

[mrincomestream]

"sleep deprivation"

Yea, on the part of John Q. Public who falls for her nonsense...

[Rick Ramirez]

Well if she would have read the whole speech she might not have a problem with the Rev Wright's sermon I did not! I suggest everyone listen to the whole thing not the few out of context sound bites the Right Wing Media has used to blast this man. Rev Wright also had his presidential moments before like when he was part of a medical team that performed surgery on LBJ back in 1966 and was commend for his perfomance on that team!

[Vincenzo]

But of course she would have left the church. She would've ran away with the head down, under sniper fire, just like she did in Tuzla.

[Lee Nichols]

Mrs. Clinton hopes to revive the issue -- but she now invites reporters to review all "her"ministers' sermons where they will surely find one or two anti--Black comments -- or comments which can be construed as such. Her desperation exhausts me. Does she never tire of hating?

[Thomas]

Ok, let me get this straight......She would walk out on a sermon but stay with the guy having sex in the White House with a 20 something. I guess I am way too simple to get this. Once again she demonstrates contradictions I find very worrisome. Unfortunately, we treat these responses like an event as opposed to a pattern.

[TM]

If campaign "sleep deprivation" makes Hillary believe she remembers taking her teenage daughter into a combat zone and ducking bullets - then how will she handle a crisis when awakened at 3:00 a.m.?

[doctormiguel]

With all due respect, my question is: Is US Senator Hillary Clinton a true Christian? If she knows about the requirements of a true Christian, then I don't believe she is qualified to enter into any house (church) of Christian Worship. This of course can change, if she repents (from the heart) from all of her secret sins and accept Jesus Christ is her Lord and saviour. Until then she can attend any Christian church service whether is Rev. Wright's church or not. I don't think Sen. Clinton has any standing in making any comments regarding our Christian religion, or enter into judgement. This is a personal matter between Sen. Clinton and her Creator.

[sunny florida]

So, Clinton or Obama? Hmmm....let's look at their resumes....relationships with "close advisors".....seems pretty clear: Hillary. Why not jump on a bandwagon of hype? The problem I have with Mr. Obama is his pattern of doing one thing and then distancing himself from those actions when it is revealed at a later date that maybe that isn't about his platform of "hope, unity and change". The Wright mess speaks to his platform of "good judgement". How can it be good judgement to listen to divisive words when you are also running on a platform of "unity", and listen to that for 20 years, just as an aside. How can it be good judgement to have a close friend and political associate whom you used to buy a piece of property with, who was widely known it be under investigation for political fraud and corruption? We have a need and right to know Senator Obama from every angle and what he believes when he talks of equality and a "vision" for America. For voters (or media) to say that Clinton +/or Obama is at fault for the direction the Democratic campaign has headed, is ludicrous and short-sighted. America is a melting pot of races, genders, culture, etc. and we each have a personal interest in seeing "ourselves" in our President. With that connection comes passion and emotional investment. However, it also must be tempered with information about the candidates (good and bad, without negative "label" attached to said information) so that we can make informed choices, rather than only emotionally-driven ones. To Americans: try to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin, mud and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and, arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and what-if's - it is about who you believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for every hardworking American, because they have a track record of that already. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be, not just because she's running for President. Vetted, intelligent, tested and hardworking. Senator Clinton is the right choice for me in '08

[N.E. BodybutHillary]

Perhaps Rev. Wright's church is too small, too poor, or too dangerous for Mr.s C.

[andy]

when you go to a raist church, you are a raist too.
simple.

[Marge]

Is misspoke the new euphanism for "lied"?

[Anthony Jones]

That's funny. Didn't she and her husband, Bill Clinton invite Rev. Wright to the white house for spirtual reconcilliation during his impeachment trial for lying about having sex with an intern?

[Will]

Obama's choice of Pastor is horrific. . almost as bad as marrying a guy who cheats on you with an intern. . .in the Oval Office. . .during his Presidency. Of course, Hilary would NEVER make that poor a decision, would she? Wait, oh, that's right. . .

McCain '08

[mruth]

I think the issue of Reverend Wright's comments separates regular churchgoers from non-churchgoers. In my life I have often belonged to congregations in which I disagreed with some or many of the things the pastor said from the pulpit, and even his (usually his) understanding of how Christianity should be lived. I have stayed in the congregation, though, because it was my spiritual family, and the pastor was only part of it.

I also have deeply loved Christians--liberal and conservative--whose politics were radically different from my own. What united us was not our politics (some of my brothers and sisters in the pews have ascribed to what I would call very dubious conspiracy theories), but our faith that Christ was working in this world for all people and that inside and outside of the church, we were children of the same God.

I was appalled at the videoclips of Rev. Wright when I first read the quotes, but then I googled his sermons, and I found him to be a loving, inspired and inspiring preacher. My pastor speaks much more calmly than Rev. Wright did, but they talked about the same things after 9/11, namely, the need to take a spiritual assessment in our shock and sadness of where we each stood with God and where we stood with other people in our communities and around the globe.

Before condemning Rev. Wright (especially if you are a fellow Christian), be fair enough to listen to more than a cobbled-together videoclip of a sentence or two. Listen to those sentences in context. http://blogs.tampabay.com/media/2008/03/rev-jeremiah-wr.html.

You may still disagree with him, but you should be fair to him. After all, the 8th commandment requires us not to bear false witness against our neighbor. Slandering Rev. Wright as a racist without checking to see if his sermons actually are racist is a sin.

[Barbara]

So she wouldn't have sat in Rev. Wright's pew but she would have voted for a war without reading the NIE report. That's like the pot calling the kettle black. Democratic leadership, end this thing NOW before Hillary does even more damage.

"I' m here because of Ashley."

[Claude Demers]

About Senator Clinton sleep deprivation argument concerning her trip to Bosnia, I hope she will not have that same problem at 3 am when the phone rings...

[Laurenr1]

The toxic messages of Wright spewing his hatred, in tandem with the award he gave to Farrakhan have created an image that is so far from the mainstream that Obama's ivy league polish has melted into a Panther picture! His race speech and unity message is at odds and is frankly more divisive and quite scary to a middle class person who has enjoyed working with people of all backgrounds. I have changed churches to find one that relects my values, so I can't separate Obama from his minister and what that means in terms of who he really is.

[Jo]

Good for you Hilary, I was wondering how long it would take for the question to be put to you. It was commendable that you didn't bring it up and that you stayed on the issues. Which is something the Obama camp needs to do more of. They keep bringing up petty things and Obama refuses to answer direct questions and always dances around the questions. How can we possibly trust someone like that? I feel that he will be another George W. Bush by watching and listening to him. I don't trust him. Give us Colin Powell. I would vote for him in a heart beat but not Obama. Never Obama. We can't handle someone who keeps playing the race card like Obama does. Then he accuses Clinton of doing that! What a spin master!! He must have hired some of Dubya's people! Sounds just like them. We don't need more of that. We need someone who is going to get down to business on day one. Not someone who will be doing the elbow wink wink good ole boy routine that I see from his camp on a daily basis.
I betcha Obama loving CNN would never post this one. I notice they allow only a few pro-Hilary posts. Get back into the news game CNN and stop the favoritism.

[Goldie]

Since she brought it up, I want to know what is "The Fellowship" which Clinton has belonged to since 1993. It is very secretive and its membership includes Ashcroft, Brownback and Inhofe, who are very conservative Repulicans. WHAT IS CLINTON DOING SO CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THEM IN A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION? I think it is a question the press should ask so we know if her social policies would be different than we assume. And since it is so secretive, she should explain why she joined it. It has had ties to dictators such a Suharto. What influence would it have on her if she were elected? Don't we have a right to know why it is so secretive and what its goals are?

[JohnG]

The crux of the matter in the Wright situation is it weakens Obama's superior judgement claim. His advisors kicked the issue around: either disown Wright under pressure and ruin his judgement claim or dance around it without throwing him under the bus and retain the jugdement trump card. They chose the latter. But it will fester until he in no uncertain terms disassociates himself entirely with Wright. He's effectively walled himself from questions-that's a presidencial style I can do without. All he needs to do is have a news conference and let anybody ask anything. But apparently the emperor wears no clothes

[Roger]

There are 116 United Church of Christ churches in the Chicago area. There are over a dozen within 10 miles of Barack & Michelle Obama’s home. Why that church? As a private citizens if your family is fine with a pastor and church who holds as even a small part of there views anti American, Anti Semitic, Pro Hamas Terrorist organization, Anti white as part of the ministry it is your right to stay as members and be feed spiritually there and if that is what feeds your soul, fine we as fellow Americans support your rights to that. As to America being OK with our President being a member of such a church, we say no way! No one has ask you to change faiths but a change in church fellowship and spiritual advisers of which you have 116 other churches and pastors to choose from is totally within a reasonable request for someone running to be the next President of the United States! Thank you Barack Obama for your radio address where you let us know you and Michelle have chosen to continue being spiritually feed from that specific church and pastor with ALL there messages. We will support your right to that as a private citizen but we will not elect you as our President. Change & Unity are more then words they require action and hard work! The kind of solutions to serious problems we face is what Hillary Clinton offers us and is the real change and unity we are looking for. You may speak the words about these things but your actions do not.

[steve nichols]

I am a very white, very middle class, very republican middle aged male. I think Hillary is extremely premeditated and manipulative in her attempt to rule America. She will do anything and say anything to get elected. She will lie, cheat and pander to get what she thinks is rightfully hers. Regarding Rev. Wright, Hillary is so unbelievably off base and unqualified to comment. She has no clue about being black in America, specifically inner city America. She repesents the priviledged elite that she claims to hate and that Wright calls out. I personally applaud Wright's statements - are you going to tell me that the US is not run by rich white people. Are you going to tell me that we, the GREAT USA, have always done the right thing. Give me a break, how about a little dose of honesty. He called the kettle black, but no one wants to hear it. Oh and by the way, if we are going to judge our potential leaders by who they chose to associate with, them Hillary should be eliminated immediately given her connection to Bill Clinton and her throng of prominant Arkansas associates. I for one like Obama's audacious attempt to change the tenor and tempo of politics in the country. Those who are so tied to the staus quo just cannot understand the appeal - well guess what, there is a serious contingent of people who have really had it with business as usual and are willing to take a leap of faith with the new guy.

[Ron M]

Since Hillary functions so poorly with sleep depravation, she will not be ready to answer the red phone at 3AM.

I think Hillary lies whether she is sleep deprived or not. In fact Hillary seems to lead a perpetual fantasy which includes winning the nomination and the election.

[abeiku]

Last I checked, a spouse can definitely be chosen, and divorce is also an option for all married couples. Again, last I checked, Hillary Clinton was even in the White House when Bill was doing his escapedes with Monika Lewinsky, but they are still married. Is it a marriage of convenience??

[Steve]

A little sleep deprivation makes her think she's under sniper fire?

Still want her answering the phone at 3am?

[eric]

"Hillary Clinton would not have 'sat' in one of Reverand Wright's pews?" She rarely has time to sit on Bill's pew which is why Monica and Gennifer were more than accommodating to keep it warm for her.

For crying out loud woman, give it up. You're a pure narcissist. Your love for yourself has completely divided the Democratic party and has all but assured another Republican president to live in the Oval Office for yet another four years.

I hope using Bill's overated popularity was worth it. You have decieved yourself. Above all, this should be a lesson for you that you are not invincible. No one is!

[Martskers]

Hillary really shouldn't have gone there. She has a big skeleton in her faith closet. It's called the "Fellowship" (a/k/a "Family"), and it's a cult if ever there was one, with historical ties to Nazis and third world strongmen. Among its members are such ultra-conservative luminaries as John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum. (all great friends of liberal/progressive policies---LOL)

Read all about it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

and here: http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

[08vote]

THE REAL ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WHY OBAMA DID NOT LEAVE HIS CHURCH/PASTOR OF 20+ YEARS: Obama said Rev. Wright’s comments were not reflective of his feelings/thoughts about America and his reasons for reamaining with the church for 20+ years is BECAUSE Obama should have made it more apparent in his race speech regarding the influences of his early childhood experiences. I believe that for the lack of a father figure, Obama conscientiously chose Rev Wright as a substitution for what might had been had Obama’s real father stayed in his parent's marriage. It was the emotional tie and psychology behind Obama choice to stay in the church/pastor for 20+ years. Yes, Obama could have gone to another church, etc. but Obama probably viewed his father through Rev. Wright - both for what Obama says is the Rev’s intellect and biblical scholarship. Those feelings are evident in a quoted text: “Wright didn't mention Obama by name but nevertheless recounted the candidate's life story. The minister spoke about a biracial child using hope to overcome racism, go to an Ivy League law school and become a politician. "How many children of biracial parents can make it in a world controlled by racist ideology?" Wright asked. "But if you use your mind, instead of a lost statistic in a hate-filled universe, you just may end up a law student at Harvard University. In fact, if you use your mind, you might end up as the editor of the Harvard Law Review. If you use your mind, instead of [being] a statistic destined for the poor house, you just may end up a statesman destined for the . . . Yes, we can!" Wright said, without mentioning the White House, but using the Obama campaign slogan to bring the crowd to its feet.”

[windu]

I was sleepy and that somehow made me say I was shot at by snipers in Bosnia. I must have been sleepy twice, because I said it twice several days apart. And I misspoke. I made up something that did not happen by mistake. What I meant to say was that I landed and was NOT shot at so I did NOT have to forego the greeting ceremony. Innocent mistake caused by sleep depravation. Twice. Mmm hmmm.

[Drew]

Aren't we, the public, and by extension, the media, the proverbial bus? The candidates can do the throwing, but it's up to us whether or not whoever has been tossed into the center of the road in fact gets crushed.

[DH]

The Democratic party better get the cane out soon and yank this lady off the stage before the election is lost to McCain. This cartoon from the Toronto Globe and Mail says it all:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/v5/images/newspaper/20080325/cartoon-600.png

[N.E. Bodyhut Hillary]

To Clarify for Mrs. C, The reason I would not sat in Rev. Wright's church is that it is too small, too poor, and too dangerous. Look out....... Snipers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brian from Pedro]

If she writes it off to "sleep deprivation", then WHAT trip was it that she took sniper fire?? Hmm?? Hard to lie upon a lie Hillary.

[Dude]

This Reverend Wright fiasco is nothing more than a conspiracy against Barack Obama.

All of you self righteous bigots have at one time or the other, sat in a bar, been to lunch, or been to a relative or friends house and listened to hate being preached, yet you want to condemn Barack for a few snipets from a sermon.

This whole thing is being fabricated to ruin Baracks chance to become President.

What is America afraid of?

If John McCain is the best the republicans have to offer, what does that say about them? Is his nomination a reward for being a POW?

[M Starr]

Assuming that Hillary Clinton was "sleep deprived" when she made her statement about her trip to Bosnia, I am surprised that nobody has where this incident of landing under sniper fire did take place.

[Jason]

I don't know why anyone would support Clintons - they will say and do anything as long as they can get and stay in power. Is there anyone in their past they did not cast off and stomp over when it suited them politically ? I really feel sad for the feminist crowd. All their hopes invested in her of all people. Elizebeth Dole would have made male and female all proud. Search hard..I am sure you can come up with a better candidate. I can not imagine my mother, sisters or wife voting for her.

McCain is a honorable person [as far as politicos go] but war is what he knows best and more war is what we will get.

Obama is an appeal to best in us. Hard to evoke that. Its a whole lot hard to keep flame lit than to blow it out.

Then there is Nader - kind soul with infinite empathy for fellow human but no chance of winning.

If Obama gets squashed under Clinton machine - going to be tough choice to make. Maybe waste vote on Nader.

Clinton is last choice - can not stand 4-8 years of unending blinkering with republicans - drama and crap [they are fellow Americans and while I don't agree with all their views - i think Americas best comes from interaction and to certain extent clash between both liberals and conservatives]

As citizens there seems to be no bottom for us. Just when we think it can not get worst than Bush\Cheney we seem to be seeing the beginnings of a worst option.

PA its in your hands again..the hope of America..Choose Obama. This endless blinkering has to end. We are all one. Vote to save the soul of Republic again. Vote for Hope. Vote for Change. Vote for Obama.

Last time you declared - history was made and Republic was born. Time to renew it with a vote for another new dawn for our Republic - that has truly come of age, wise, forgiving and blessed.

Young folks rally again. It looks like you folks have a lot more sense than we old ones do. God bless us all.

[Kimberly]

You don't choose your family, but you choose what man you want to marry.

[nJ]

Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been aired in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two completely different things; not a lie. Now Hillary, she blatantly lies.

I attend a very conservative White Baptist church and the pastors over the years have spoken against US policy many times. So what?

Hillary Clinton said we can't choose our family. Oh really? She chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated sins. These are not the actions of a Christian family.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ above all condemns hypocrisy.

[Norbert]

So by 3am she would be sleepy, and again make another wrong judgement and take us to war. common Hilary, U keep moving the goal post.

[Lee O. Cherry]

Is this true about Hillary's Pastor?

The Huffington Post

Hillary's Nasty Pastorate

Posted March 19, 2008 | 01:11 PM (EST)

There's a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively
silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack
Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to
unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable
than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in
the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn
Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her
years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant
in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part
of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the "Fellowship,"
aka The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff
Sharlet's shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret
Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be
published in May.

Sean Hannity has called Obama's church a "cult," but that
term applies far more aptly to Clinton's "Family," which is
organized into "cells" -- their term -- and operates
sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern
Virginia. In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family's
home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol,
and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power.
He wasn't undercover; he used his own name and admitted to
being a writer. But he wasn't completely out of danger
either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone
call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family
associates asking him to meet them in diners -- alone.

The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous
National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in
Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the
scenes -- knitting together international networks of
rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the
1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former
Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader,
Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole
bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's
in 2003:

During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between
the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and
dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial
leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva,
with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship
groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia,
General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand
"Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most
murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty
Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the
Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government
and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides
Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of
thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez,
himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the
CIA and death squads before his own demise.

At the heart of the Family's American branch is a collection
of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have
included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James
Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family's
spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is
maintained by young men in Family group homes and where
meals are served by the Family's young women's group. And,
at the Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get
powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the
already-powerful.

Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a
Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders
like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the
senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's
"most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which
included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist
Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection
for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family's
publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in
Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to
anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen
his or her relationship with God."

Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton's
rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for
a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace,
such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control
prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard
abortion clinics.

What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the
international right? Maybe it was just a phase in her
tormented search for identity, marked by ever-changing
hairstyles and names: Hillary Rodham, Mrs. Bill Clinton,
Hillary Rodham Clinton, and now Hillary Clinton. She reached
out to many potential spiritual mentors during her White
House days, including new age guru Marianne Williamson and
the liberal Rabbi Michael Lerner. But it was the Family
association that stuck.

Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the
underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself
struggles to define the Family's theological underpinnings.
The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus,
though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek."
They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites
who matter, the political leaders who can build God's
"dominion" on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent
philosophy, it's all about power -- cultivating it, building
it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or
"cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has
said, and "build new power where we can't."

Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his
affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. Now
it's up to Clinton to explain -- or, better yet, renounce --
her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family.

[Bob]

I'll try to keep this to terms BO himself uses as acceptable, such as, "Typical White Person," and by substitution of like terms, "Typical Black Person." I wonder in what context the Rev. Wright's "Ridin' Dirty" speech looks okay from the church pews? At least BO was truthful in his speech from Philly on race... no, wait, the Friday before he was on Anderson Cooper on CNN and said he was never present when Rev. Wright said such things then on the following Tuesday he said he heard controversial things from Wright (and allowed his daughters to hear controversial things such as the U.S. created HIV/AIDS to turn loose on urban people, i.e. Blacks, in addition to the Bill Clinton was "Ridin' Dirty" with Monica Lewinsky speech and later calling for the resignation of Don Imus invoking his daughters' not needing to hear such things, though I doubt his daughters or the Rutgers basketball team ever listened to Imus prior to the replaying of the "nappy, headed ho's" comment, a term from a Spike Lee movie BTW. So I guess only Blacks can use that term a lot like Rev. Wright's use of the "N word" in a reference to Senator Clinton, not anyone with White skin trying to get a laugh as a shock jock. I guess mysoginistic language is O.K. with BO since Wright said Sen. Clinton has never been referred to as a "non-person" something Wright, being a man, somehow has knowledge of). So it seems BO needs to spend some time at the "telling the truth" rehab and maybe he should check himself and his staff into the hypocrit rehab as well.

Now we hear the ObamaNation (Abomination?) dog piling on Senator Clinton for her comments regarding going into a war zone. I don't think the Secret Service would have said anything about being prepared for sniper fire or anything like that, right? How many war zones had BO travelled to, I mean if he is all about claiming that he is just as experienced as Sen. Clinton? I heard the press conference at issue, Sen. Clinton was responding to a question asked by a reporter and refused further comment beyond "]Wright] wouldn't have been her preacher" and we can't choose our relatives but we do choose our pastors/church."

I love the Abomination's slash and burn strategy in this campaign, truly that of a uniter, also to call all "typical white person(s)" racist for feelings of fear when confronted by a stranger of color. If my former girlfriend had acted like a "typical white person," when a "Black stranger" was checking her out maybe she wouldn't have been raped by said "black stranger" aka rapist. Thank God she was spared a trial as a later victim identified him on her death bed, which led to his incarceration for murder. But hey at least my former girlfriend wasn't a racist, I mean as defined by BO. That's something isn't it?

[I_Slay_The_Dragon]

And, Janet Reno would not have been my anything.
Ah, the irony.

[John]

Democrats are a mess!!!! The Republicans already have this won because we Dems cant get our act together.

Bill Richardson is a traitor to the Clintons. He would not be a national figure without them.

Clinton makes a mistake about Bosnia....and McCain, Obama and Bush have never made a speaking mistake?

Anyways you are the best available candidate Sen. Clinton. DONT GIVE UP!

GO HILLARY!

[Joe]

Hilary (and team) is a slime-bucket for starting this again. I am an expat Canadian, and though I'm don't consider myself racist, many people around me are. They have various reasons for their viewpoints, most of which are not defendable, but it's not possible for me to change these people.

If we look deep down inside, I suspect we're all racist/opinionated to some degree. It's natural to view one's own life/position as preferred to someone else's. Though I wouldn't support Obama (if allowed to vote), his response through this has been enlightening.

Safe to say, Hilary's approach makes me worry about her "naked" views.....

[Fred]

OBAMA SUPPORTERS: Do you agree with these statements made by Rev. Wright's mentor, James Cone, which discuss the nature of Obama's religion, black liberation theology? 1. To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. 2. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. 3. All white men are responsible for white oppression. 4. Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." 5. If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it. 6. "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." ** All of these statements are taken directly from Cone's seminal work on black theology entitled "Black Theology and Black Power." This is the “theology” to which Obama has been subjecting his innocent children.

[Jim]

It's 3AM in the morning....

Do you want a "SLEEP DEPRIVED" Hillary Clinton "misspeaking" into the Red Phone??

What a joke.

[Nicole Blair]

Racist? Unpatriotic? Guilt by association? It's mind-boggling the way we attack Obama. Hilary got away with saying a flat-out lie - a lie so distant from the truth, but ooops she “made a mistake” so let forgive and move back on to racist Obama because he clearly hates half himself. PEOPLE! Obama had not said one thing unpatriotic, however we attack the man on what came out of the mouth of someone else? Someone who Obama CLEARY and obviously disagree with? Are we all on the same planet here? Do we know what unpatriotic is? For all of you sooo quick to judge and speculate and spread propaganda, you don’t have a clue! For an African American to rise up through a mainstream political system and have the devotion to run for PRESIDENT, to be friends, close associates and allies with majority of people opposite of his race, to endure ignorant racist hate messages for the very people who he wants to better their lives, to leave his wife and kids to tirelessly campaign all over the country, to put his own life at risk for the great American Dream he believes in for all, for a country that he has NOT lost hope in, to repudiate a church who gave him spirituality, to be willing to carry the great burden of a floundering country he loves and calls his home and his children’s home and only wants to right by it, and you have the nerve to say that this man is unpatriotic. Obama is the very definition of what patriotism is! Most you who criticize can’t even come close to what this man has done, still doing and is still yet to do for this country! Unpatriotic because he did wear a pin on an occasion? My question – did you on every occasion? And are you any less of an American? His wife said she finally feels proud to be an American? GREAT she’s proud, it’s a GOOD thing for those who don’t understand the meaning to those words put together in that particular. It’s truly maddening what’s happening. On one had you have a candidate who is found guilty and given the death penalty for something SOMEONE ELSE said, and at the same time you have a candidate who flat-out LIED out of her very mouth about an issue she is using to show her credibility as president and we forgive her - give me a break!

[Oni]

Obama, has stated from very early on in his campaign that he had many disagreements and serious debates with his pastor. This is important. It is possible to respect someone you disagree with. For anyone who attended college or has a job I'm sure that's not a foreign concept. It's terribly easy to run away from a problem but it takes a real leader to stand up and debate with someone you respect and to stand your ground and fight for what you believe in. This is what Obama has done and he continues to have my full support and respect.

If fairness is the name of the game, where are the reports on Clinton's religious practices? Too many powerful people in The Family to touch it?

[Nicole Blair]

Racist? Unpatriotic? Guilt by association? It's mind-boggling the way we attack Obama. Hilary got away with saying a flat-out lie - a lie so distant from the truth, but ooops she “made a mistake” so lets forgive and move back on to racist Obama because he clearly hates half himself. PEOPLE! Obama had not said one thing unpatriotic, however we attack the man on what came out of the mouth of someone else? Someone who Obama CLEARLY and obviously disagree with? Are we all on the same planet here? Do we know what unpatriotic is? For all of you sooo quick to judge and speculate and spread propaganda, you don’t have a clue! For an African American to rise up through a mainstream political system and have the devotion to run for PRESIDENT, to be friends, close associates and allies with majority of people opposite of his race, to endure ignorant racist hate messages from the very people who he wants to better their lives, to leave his wife and kids to tirelessly campaign all over the country, to put his own life at risk for the great American Dream he believes in for all, for a country that he has NOT lost hope in, to repudiate a church who gave him spirituality, to be willing to carry the great burden of a floundering country he loves and calls his home and his children’s home and only wants to do right by it, and you have the nerve to say that this man is unpatriotic. Obama is the very definition of what patriotism is! Most you who criticize can’t even come close to what this man has done, still doing and is still yet to do for this country! Unpatriotic because he did wear a pin on an occasion? My question – did you on every occasion? And are you any less of an American? His wife said she finally feels proud to be an American? GREAT she’s proud, it’s a GOOD thing for those who don’t understand the meaning to those words put together in that particular order. It’s truly maddening what’s happening. On one had you have a candidate who is found guilty and given the death penalty for something SOMEONE ELSE said, and at the same time you have a candidate who flat-out LIED out of her very mouth about an issue she is using to show her credibility as president and we forgive her - give me a break!

[RauL PEDRAZA]

Sleep depravation now that is rich. How about sense depravation or honesty depravation or just simple depravation of integrity. Lady you are a slime ball liar period end of statement. Go lay with your husband or is that spot being taken tonight by an Emperors club employee?

[robinia]

Monica Lewinsky doesn't suffer from sleep deprivation. Yet, neither does Bill Clinton. Why, I wonder, does Hillary suffer from it? Is the problem because she isn't getting any?

[ed]

In retrospect, Hillary's campaign has developed into a must win situation. Her image is so tarnished now that losing the ticket would end her quest of ever becoming commander in chief. A miraculous victory over Obama would surely guarantee a McCain victory in November.

However, Obama, has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Should his campaign be unsuccessful this year- which is unlikely - Mr. Obama has established himself to be a front-runner in the 2012 election.

No wonder Hillary suffers from sleep deprivation.

[didi]

Hillary is done. The writing is on the wall. The fat lady is singing her next to the final song.

[Marks]

How many of you attend Church? Is it a half hour service on weekdays? Sundays, depending on number of choir songs, could last 45 minutes to an hour.

Obama said, if anyone stepped into Trinity Church on Easter Sunday, at least one gathering was traditional services on Christian's Holiest day.

TIME magazine reporter went to Trinity and stayed for a four hour gathering with multiple sermons.

Obama and his wife, with two small girls probably never attend the four hour sermons! Where the most fiery opinion can can happen. When people are standing, clapping, yelling and carrying on.

Among those people gathered in Trinity church are doubters.

They reject the sermon but not the giver of it.

The Pastor giving an outrageous sermon, some people overly consider the yelling and screaming is shocking to them, still treats the public gently.

In the community that Pastor is doing ministry and outreach.

8,000 and more people attend Trinity and among Church's in Chicago, is decently respected. Every Church group has it's bad side. There is no religion
that can't be challenged

I prefer the loud and yelling Pastor who still does good works in the community, if the more quiet and supposedly devout Priest or Pastor, might be physically abusing some in the community secretly.

This is shocking to read. Hands that were washed in Holy Water handing the Eucharist up for blessing, then offered to mouths and the Communion placed on tongues, those fingers would be fondling some victims soon after. The little alter boy or girl. Some children asked to visit a Priest or Pastor, they acted up to another teacher. Unsuspecting parents would leave children to predators!

I don't respect any Church who didn't punish abuser Priests, Pastors, a few nuns, only moved them around to other parish in different communities. When they knew about abuse, the police weren't called!

Why don't believers leave the Church were abusers were active?

How can anybody stay in Trinity Church with that loudmouth Rev. Wright and others, but they do good work in their community.

Two groups won't leave the Church because they believe the building is a holier place than anyone in it.

A Pastor can be replaced and Church goes on.

Obama was married in Trinity Church, children baptized there. Rev. Wright was doing spiritual work. He wasn't screaming at top of lungs with a political rant during a Baptism!

Obama has disagreed with Rev. Wright's opinions, but the Church is part of his life. Wright's retired, Church goes on. Obama, his wife and two daughters will probably stick to the half hour traditional services.

[LookintheMirror]

But she still stayed in Bills's bed after he two timed her. With what audacity does she preach?

[Lisa]

Some people are kind of offended that the church had stated it's "unapologetically black" - you know what my first reaction was also kind of like the same - oh that means they must be racist. But then I thought about our American history, and I think it's not only justified but necessary. And you don't really need to look at history, just look at how so many white Americans are treating this church, and you can see the reason and why so many would find refuge there. I hope this church and retired pastor could just be left alone, they don't need to apologize to anyone.

[didi]

LOOKINTHEMIRROR...Straight to the point. Kudos to you!

By Hillary "not" divorcing Bill actually, when she should have, hurt her when she even attempts to talk about anything relating to morals and ethics. You are correct my fellow blogger. Hillary has the audacity ! ! ! Bill's carousing may have finally come back to haunt her. It will be his defining legacy through-out the ages, despite two terms as president.

[Michelle]

After the Monica-Lewinsky affair, Bill Clinton wouldn't have been my husband.

[lgstarn]

When Hillary was a member of the board of directors for six years at Walmart (which she does not list on her resume, but is included in her "35 years of experience"), and one of her mentors and fellow board members said "Labor unions are nothing but blood-sucking parasites living off the productive labor of people who work for a living."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4218509&page=1

Why is it that Hillary didn't quit the board of directors immediately? It's true you can't choose your family but you can choose your church. Hillary may have heard, though, that tolerance, compassion and forgiveness are "supposed" to be major parts of any religion. Hillary would quit her church if she disagreed with her pastor but would happily stay for 6 years as Wal-mart directors call labor union members "blood-sucking parasites."

Is this who you want running the country?

I think we need a new word for Hillary: hyperactive hypocrisy = hypercrisy.

[Tired in Chicago]

If the senator from New York, Clinton that is, was so sleep deprived until she would like 3-times during different occasions, is that really the person we want to answer that red phone at 3:00 a.m. in the morning? America, we better wake up out of sleep and see things for what they are. Stop looking through rose colored glasses white people and wake up and realize that other cultures and races on this planet don't see the world through your lenses....especially here in the states.

[Mary O'Bryan]

Yesterday, Hillary weighed in on the Wright issue for the first time. Contrary to the Obamamainiacs and many of the MSM pundits this is not sinking to low tactics. No, that was Obama's doings. Why shouldn't Hillary comment on this issue? You can bet this alone has nearly eliminated Obama's chance to win in November. Remember, he knee-capped himself with the Wright thing by "sitting in the pews for 20 years", etc. If, and that is a big "IF", Obama is identified as the nominee the Repulicans will immediately start a full scale assult on this issue and more of the same McCain will win in a landslide. Therefore, in my humble opinion, Hillary better do everything she can to get the nomination or we the democrats are doomed again in November. So MSM, if Sen. Obama isn't able to get our nomination because he continues to get an all but free pass from you guys then doesn't it behoove "US" to find that out now, before it is too late? Or do some of the good ole' boys in the MSM, RNC, and possibly the DNC fear a female as "Commander in Chief" so badly that your willing to concede the general election to anyone, as long as it's not Hillary? America really needs her skill and expertise. She is the best choice we have to restore our standing at home and abroad. I am far from alone in that opinion. Take a look at her position papers, plans, and solutions for America. Then, and only then, can you decide that she is right not Wright for America. You will vote Hillary once you look at the facts. I know I am. Thank you for considering America first. KY