Donna Brazile offers Hillary Clinton a reminder about Rev. Wright

Donna Brazile -- an uncommitted superdelegate of the Democratic National Convention and one of television's few black, female political pundits -- interjected an intriguing observation this afternoon into a discussion on CNN about Hillary Clinton's stiff-arming of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

In short, Brazile provided a pointed reminder that some voters (African Americans, in particular, we would think) might recall that Wright did not turn on Clinton's husband during an hour of need for him.

Clinton, for the first time since the fury over Barack Obama's tart-tongued former minister erupted more than a week ago, today rebuked her rival in the Democratic presidential race for his link to the pastor. Responding to question during a sit-down with a Pittsburgh newspaper -- and then later reiterating her position to other reporters in Pennsylvania -- Clinton said she would not have been a member of a church headed by someone, like Wright, who indulged in racially tinged invective.

Her comments assured another burst of attention on the Obama-Wright connection -- something her campaign didn't have to do during the white-hot heat of the controversy. And it took part of the media spotlight away from her faulty memory (or, less kindly, utter fabrication) about her visit to Bosnia when she was first lady.

Clinton could have contented herself with decrying Wright's messages without saying, in essence, that no way would she tolerate an association with the likes of him.

That's what Brazile picked up on, making a reference to Wright's willingness to join dozens of other religious figures in attending an annual White House prayer breakfast just as the Starr report on Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- in all its lurid detail -- was about to come out. No doubt ...

... those at the event -- at least the vast majority of them -- highly disapproved of Clinton's behavior. But they were not willing to shun him.

Brazile's none-too-subtle point: There's a potential downside to turning away, with nary a forgiving nod, from those who once stood by you.

Wright, by the way, remains out of the public eye. He had been invited to preach tonight, Wednesday and Thursday at a church in Tampa, but his appearance was canceled because of security concerns.

-- Don Frederick

 

Comments

[N.E. BodybutHillary]

Hillary is one hell of a scrapper! In desperation after being caught mid lie, she pulls the racist card. Clearly Rev. Wright's pews are too small, the congregation is too poor, and the neighborhood too dangerous for Hillary. Duck!!!! Sniper-fire!!!!!!

[Hazel Diane Razheda Moore]

And I as an african american women remember that the Clintons where very protected and good to our community way before Obama. Bill Clinton even established his presidentail office iand non-profits n Harlem. Im sticking with them.

[Obamamania]

Obama is our Savior. Barak and Reverend Wright are Right, God D*** america. Now is the time to rally around Barak and Michelle and make them proud! And news flash america, Barak is right, your typical white american is a racist! Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for arrogant american policies of hate and slavery. Only Obama can forgive an evil nation founded slavery. REPARATIONS NOW!

[RicRoe]

So apparently, Rev Wright was close enough to the Hillary Clinton to be invited to the White House, will Carville be calling Clinton a Judas now too?

Apparently, it is OK to turn on someone who you once considered close if you are a Clinton. But when someone else....say Bill Richardson does it then he is compared to Judas.

We can now add hypocracy to fabrication of events onto the list of acts that Clinton is not above committing is her scorched earth campaign crumbles around her.

Seems it is OK to recycle the attacks against Rev Wright because she neeeds to divert attention from her own lies and deceit.

This is not a Swift Boat attack, but rather one Clinton has brought upon herself. There is Sinbad, CBS News footage, and yes, even her own autobiography which can be used to prove her sniper remarks were an outright lie. Lets not forget that Chelsea was there too, and has not been heard from since the Hillary fabrication. What will Chelsea have to say and will she be labeled Judas as well?

Time to close the Clinton campaign tent and move on. Clintons smugness and self appointed front runner status was a turn off to many early on in the campaign and helped Obama.

Turning the former President into her personal attack dog in South Carolina destroyed both Clinton's credibility and helped Obama.

How the rest of the Democratic party could consider continuing their support for Clinton after these events is ponderous. These latest events will have those super delegates running to Obama's side leaving Clinton in their dust.

Its long past time for Clinton to return to the Senate and resume her position of playing second fiddle to Charles Schumer. Its what is most qualified for starting day one.

[PAUL HERNANDEZ JR SFC US ARMY]

HILLARY is grasping at mirage straws and lying to us about Bosnia and the reality that she lost Texas and also the democratic nomination. Short of Barack Obama being found to be client number eight or some other catastrophe. Barack has stayed above the fray and thank goodness for sane delegates like Donna Brazile and Bill Richardson. Don't worry Billary Nancy Pelosi and the other adults are coming with the straightjackets and the rubber room for you both. Your government heath care plan will pay for your prozac. You voted for the war that has cost us 4000 young lives, maimed 25,000 and is costing us a trillion and running. You don't even have the guts to state unequivocally that you made that or any other mistake. You are a joke to the world so please get off the stage ASAP. Surprise Barack Obama ran a better campaign and the American people realized the time for change is now.
Barack Obama in 2008

[suibne]

Once again Donna Brazille plays the "repulsive" card. I am no fan of Hillary, but if Wright is not a lunatic then Donna Brazille should say so outright and prove how much of a racist she is. Not that the "typical white person" doesn't know this already. Brazille and Kilpatrick would make a good third party run for Garbage Keepers.

[Loyal Democrat]

To funny... the Clinton FEAR machine is in full force here!

To Hazel - Shouldn't we vote for McCain then, since he was there before Clinton? Maybe best to just vote for who you think is the best for your community...however large or small you consider that to be.

To Obamamania - I call you out on your ignorant attack feebly veiled as support. Go back to the extremists cave with your friends...say hi to Rush for me!

The Clinton's fear machine is hurting us all.

[vote4thebest]

I am not sure if Donna has ever been kind to Clinton. While she acts like she is neutral but every time I watch her, her words and body language always give me the impression that she is pro-Obama.

I posted last week that Hillary should be quiet about the Wright story if the media does its job in the coverage. Only Fox news carrues this story, CNN, MSNBC, etc. did not cover it and when they did, it was cursory and gave Obama tons of free passes and again swooned over his speech which did not answer the real questions (i.e., why does he still keep this relationship for 20 years, why does he take the children to this church if he said that this is the wrong teaching to the next generation...)

Hillary has no choice but to take this position; just like she had to cry foul loudly in a national debate (with help from SNL) to call the attention to this blatant discrimination towards her from the media.

I don't like that these two candidates are getting ugly but I don't blame Hillary given that she is fighting against the big media's engine and discrimination against her.

[joelthesecond]

The comment from Obamamania, "Obama is our Savior... REPARATIONS NOW!" is not believable, except he be a white Republican trying to foment distrust of Obama. Some unscrupulous members of the Republican party will do anything to win, no matter how much it hurts this country.

Obamamania is a Bush supporter, and a bad joke.

[crystal]

Hazel Diane Razheda Moore.

That's too bad becase the Clintons are not sticking with you....

Ask the people of South Carolina. HRC is only concerned with working class whites and seniors this time around.

[McCain4USA]

I just hope the American people see how worthless both of these candidates are. McCain looks better everyday.

[WHITE AMERICAN]

i am apalled to here some of the things said and done by white america. every one wants to forget the hardships that black americans have gone through over the years by there own countrymen. no one came to our rescue like george bush called himself doing for the iraqi people. saddam hussein killed his own people what hog wash. look at what white america does to the black race in everyday life. look at the number of people that have been killed in america during slavery. all of americas hardships are allowed to happen only by GOD.

[Randy]

By admission, Sen. Obama has repeatedly stated that his "spiritual leader" the Rev. Jeremiah "God D**n America" Wright who over the course of his career spewed racial bigotry and hatred, was in fact the man that lead him to christianity... yeah, ok, I can accept that.

However for Sen. Obama to first state that he had never heard of the Reverend making those comments and later stated in his well known speech, "The Speech: A Brilliant Fraud" where he admitted having had heard those speeches is completely "disingenuious." And borders on the absurd and untrustworthy.

I'm truly disappointed...

[donald169]

What a dishonest post. No where do you meniton that Clinton responded to a direct, personal question; she was asked, "If YOUR pastor had said those things, what would YOU PERSONALLY do?" What would you have her say?? She said, "For me, he would not have remained my pastor. That's something everyone has to decide for themselves."

By omitting any sense of the context you are deliberately and dishonestly presenting Clinton as bringing up the subject and attacking Obama. She said not one word about Obama, she didn't bring it up but only answered a question asked of her, and she made no critical comment whatever about him or his choice to remain as parishoner for those twenty years.

There are lots of things to criticize Clinton about, but how about a modicum of fair play, huh?

[KYJurisDoctor]

Unfortunately for them, the Clintons will pay a HEAVY price for their race baiting!

http://OsiSpeaks.com

[janetP]

Check out Rev. Wright's sweet real estate deal at this web site:

www.revjeremiahawrightjr.com

Kenneth Lewis sells the land and then Wright sells it to the church with a 10 million dollar mortgage at 8.2%interest.

[John Paul Telhomme]

Hazel Diane Razheda Moore ,

The Black community does not owe the Clintons anything! Besides, regarding the office, he had chosen a place in lower Manhattan for his office suite after he left office but the Republicans in Congress that had hounded him for eight years refused to pay for the office. He was humiliated and Rangel offered the abandoned building in Harlem. You should remember the details. So, The Clintons owe the Black community. Harlem offered them the place to make up to about a billion dollars.

[Raul PEDRAZA]

Puhlease Hillary duck the hell out of the campaing you are now past the point of obnoxious kind of like company that wont leave your house. Go away as far as possible maybe to the land of de Nile where you occupy your condo daily. the rest of us living in reality already know that Barack Obama beat you fair and square and we have to get behind him now and go beat Senator Mc War. I wont forget both of Barack's opponents have 4000 dead soldiers blood on their votes.

Go Barack Go..

[Joe]

Does she care about the Democratic party any more? If she wants to discard the do-anything, say-anything image for a more "human" one, she's not doing herself any favors here.

As for the delegates, I don't get it, personally. The superdelegates KNOW they will be deciding the election, no matter how the rest of the states vote. It's simple math: neither side can get the electoral votes they need. Why don't they just get together and declare a winner before it's too late? It's like they WANT the Republicans to win...

Because, otherwise, it's going to turn ugly. Sorry, uglier.

Finally, as for the lady saying she'll stick by her candidate, I just want to say that I find your loyalty commendable. Though I disagree with your choice, it's your choice to make.

[Randy]

QUESTION: What is Sen, Obama's political stand on Afro-American "reparations?"

I already know what Louis Farrakhan would say ... he's already said it... "Whitey would have to give us the enitre country." One can only speculate on what Rev. Wright might say, "Amen brother!"

What would Barack say...?

I think we already know.

[JHJ]

The “Bosnia Lie” is particularly bad, because it is stolen heroism. Here we honor 4,000 of our troop that have died for a Bush misspoke, and Hillary tries to steal heroism on a tarmac in Tuzla. What is unique is Hillary would only recant when video evidence appeared that showed she is lying. Hillary claiming danger and heroics with in reality an eight-year-old girl reading is a poem to her and others.

Veterans, who forgo profit for patriotism, are very annoyed by stolen heroism. In part, because when they look back on these heroic times, it is the defining moments of their lives. Then, here goes the heroism thieves that say “me too,” when it’s a lie. In Hillary’s case, a Bosnia Lie.

God Bess the USA and Obama

[suibne]

Once again Donna Brazille plays the "repulsive" card. I am no fan of Hillary, but if Wright is not a lunatic then Donna Brazille should say so outright and prove how much of a racist she is. Not that the "typical white person" doesn't know this already. Brazille and Kilpatrick would make a good third party run for Garbage Keepers.

[Doug Williams]

My 18 year old daughter called me and shocked me with the news that she is no longer going to support Hillary. I asked her why and she replied that Hillary has shown an ugly side by acting just like the Republicans on the Obama Pastor story.

We are a white liberal family. I was looking forward to a woman in the White House. It looks like we are beginning to think about putting a Black in the White House. I am going to consider my daughters advice. She is very intelligent.

[Alex Gudich-Yulle]

Im sorry to Obamamania above but I strongly disagree that Obama is our "saviour," nor did he say "God D*** America," nor did Obama say that the typical white American is a racist.

I'm a strong supporter of Barack Obama but we need to think of these things realistically. In the end Obama is still a politician and we cannot expect one man to "forgive" an entire nation or to be our "saviour."

I agree that Obama's assertion that slavery is a direct causal factor in blacks' status in society today but to spew the garbage above gives Obama supporters a bad name.

[sickanig]

It's your typical black American who is the racist. They just back Obama because they think there is a free check up the road.

[Pat Taylor]

Does Hillary have a pastor?

[Lhar]

Looks like Hillary and Obama have done the impossible. They have made McCain the president. Good job guys! Only two clowns like you could have ruined a golden opportunity to bring the White House back to the Democrats after 8 miserable years of George W. Thanks so much!

[Ivodo]

Clinton is playing a race card. This is disgracing the Democratic Party.

[BG]

There's been no race baiting,

Can African-Americans ever undertake any endeavor, or suffer the normal life challenges we all face, without blaming every single thing on racism?

[VoiceofReason]

Most Obama supporters (as he's currently holding the popular vote) are averse to racism against any one, and view prejudice as an unscientific, and not well thought out philosophy. It's frustrating when Obama supporters are so radical: they have the potential of turning off potential supporters. Obama has a great reputation in Illinois, across the aisle. He is not a racist in his actions, in the fruits of his labor. The whole point of an African American Caucasian president shouldn't be lost on us it should bring us together. That's patriotism.

[Mr. Unite Us]

Clinton would still be lying Bosnia if the video,
had not turned up. After a few days of trying to explain,
she said she mispoke. No she made up a lie and told it repeatedly. She lied to the American people.

Wright's sermon in Context.
He was actually quoting a white Republican ambassador.
ABC should be boycotted for it's misleading editing and splicing of the video tape.

http://baldeagle08.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/cnn-msnbc-cbs-abc-fox-news-lied-about-pastor-jeremiah-wright-see-911-sermon-in-context/

[Jack]

Obama's got serious problems with ethnic white males, Hispanics, Jews, and older white females....

How can this guy be the nominee??

HILLARY can beat John McCain, not a guy who hangs out with people who hate America and resent white people

[ross]

We the people, count our Popular Vote, whoever wins, wins!

Remember the delegate problem in Bush vs. Gore 2000.
The system is broken, and conventions are a waste of taxpayer and donor finances. Let's finish it!

We the people, count our Popular Vote, whoever wins, wins!

[musafir]

The comments by Obamamania make me wonder if the author is a saboteur for McCain or HC. They are playing dirty pool and anything goes.

Those who are involved in the Obama-HC dog fight, think of the last eight years. McCain has recast himself as a Bush clone. Expect him to be no different than the current incumbent of the White House. There is one area where McCain stands above Bush -- he speaks better English. Is that enough?

A former John Edwards backer, I'm for Obama. But I'll support the Democratic candidate if HC happens to succeed in winning the nimination.

[WylieD]

90% of black voters are going with Obama, and Donna Brazile accuses Clinton of disloyalty.

[Bill Balack]

I notice that every 2 or 3 posts on this story is by the same individual, using a different name, trying to portray the stereotype characterless victim. Since we all know that such a victim does not exist in the world, let us not take these comments seriously. They are made by an impoverished Republican silly boy who is acting out for us.

Applause to silly boy, I hope you learn more about the issues that face our nation some day. Until then, the rest of us will write from our hearts, not pretend to be stupid.

[cdl]

Obama's pastor wouldn't be mine either. The way you Obama-mites protest over nothing, is short of hilarious.
You're the biggest comedians out there.
I can see where this country is headed if he is elected. We'll have the Obama Righteous Patrol listening to our every conversation. Talk about Big Brother.

[LeavinLA]

And Hillary chooses to be a right wing fundamentalist thanks to her association with Santorum's and Brownbacks' DC fellowship. She's pathetic.

[LT]

Why is it acceptable to Donna Brazile that Obama campaign should circulate photos of Bill and Wright in an attempt to draw Clintons in this, but it is not acceptable at all that Clinton speaks about Wright. People will do themselves and voters a favor if they stoped pretending and come clean whom they support.

[soflindie]

I can no longer support The Clintons - I had blinders on for too many years . Through out EVERY scandal and there were many , I defended. Now , I see that I was wrong. I am sorry to all of those who tried to warn me that they would turn against me, my party and my country.
I started getting a glimpse back when I worked for an HIV/AIDS charity and could not get a Clinton to even notice us without the right amount of cash. We were able to get bigger celebrities for free.
Now, I see that glimpse has turned into a huge WAKE-UP ALL. Vote for a Clinton ? Not Now , Not Ever !

[gina]

It is too bad that the "holier than thou" attitude of Mrs. Clinton brushes over the Whitewater scandal which involved close friends...brushes over the pardons then president Clinton gave to friends and supporters, brushes over her bad recollections of all her executive experiences which now turn out to be at best exaggerations or at worst fabrications....she is being called on her recollections of Ireland...David Trimbell had this to say about Hillary’s role in the peace process: “Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played.
Lawmakers say she played no role in the writing of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP which she is saying in her campaign speeches "she helped start....and at least one attendee at a NAFTA rally has stated that it is "ludicrous" to suggest that Hillary Clinton was a half-hearter backer of a deal that has cost the United States hundreds of thousands of unionized jobs. She herself wrote in her book that Nafta is a big success...it's there...in writing. Sometimes she "mispeaks" somtimes she "misremembers" . Today she forgot that in his desperation to divert attention from hiis 'misspeaking" about the Lewinsky issue, her husband used whatever means were at his disposal including embracing a church minister which she now denounces.

[Larkin G. Mead]

To Obamamania - I am white and proud of my whiteness and my heritage. I am proud to be an American and I defended my country during the Vietnam era. I am not a racist nor a bigot. I believe with all my heart in the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, "to not judge a person by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character"!

I do not judge Barack Obama nor Rev. Wright by the color of their skin. I do not subscribe to the rantings and defamation of our nation by Rev. Wright and I too would never sit in a church pew and tolerate a minister, priest or rabbi using such foul and inflammatory rhetoric.

I am a typical white American and I am Republican and I am voting for Senator John McCain. This does not make me a racist, but your generalization that a "typical white American is racist" reeks of racism. So now who is the rascist?

[Mark Amato]

Reparations? That is insanity. There would be civil war before reparrations. Blacks are only 12% and they better remember that before talking so stupid about reparations.

[Jamie]

The African American community abandoned teh Clintons at lightening speed absolutely forgetting who stood by them not only for the 8 White House years but with activism before that. Is that becuase they are white and a black person came along? That seems racist to me. I have actually been very disappointed in the bias of Ms Brazile, thought she'd be above it but then I thought Richardson would follow the vote of his constituents like he staed supers should. Things that make you go hmmmmmm They are making the Clintons look better daily -- go Hillary!

[windu]

We should all be ashamed of ourselves. Petty, selfish, hate-filled crabs, the lot of us.

[bruce becker]

SAY IT: Hilary Clinton lied about her role in Bosnia and lied about the circumstances. There were no bullets flying. There was a bouquet of flowers. I have lived where bullets were flying and I went to bed to the sound of machine gun fire. You don't forget that sound. You can't forget that sound.

She did not "misspeak." She lied.

She tried to keep her 'first lady papers' and the lies they would reveal, hidden until after the primary season, and only provided them during the furor over Rev Wright, hoping her lies would go unnoticed.

Now it is time for her to publish her earmark gifts to her region and her tax returns which will show us how she came up with the $5 Million she loaned her campaign.

[SB]

Obamamania is either ignorant or likes to ignore the facts. Fact #1: Obama is proud of America, not damning it. Fact #2: Most of the rascist hate speech seen today is from blacks (like Obamamania and Rev Wright) - not whites. Fact #3: Blacks and Muslims were (and still are) willing participants in slavery. Whites generally didn't trek into Africa to capture slaves. Other blacks captured the slaves, then sold them to Muslim and white traders. Fact #4: Slavery is still practiced today - primarily in Africa. Fact #5: Practically everybody living today is descended from slaves, since most societies kept slaves at one time or another. Some of us have managed to get over it. Fact #6: Many white Americans' ancestors emigrated here after the Civil War and never participated in black slavery. Fact #7: The Civil War was fought over the issue of slavery. Over 360,000 Union soldiers died helping to free the slaves. Yes, there have been injustices in the past, but there has been enormous progress made since slavery ended. Today blacks are as empowered as whites. If a black person chooses to educate and apply himself or herself, that person can become a Secretary of State, a Supreme Court Justice, a member of Congress, a Governor, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a candidate for President. If a black person chooses to wallow in victimhood instead, that's their choice. Just accept responsibility for it and stop blaming the whites.

[bruce becker]

DId the CIA train bin Laudin? Yes.
DId the CIA support and train his entire cadre of murderers? Yes
Bin Laudin and his murderers are the direct product of US tax dollars at work.

Bin Laudin's suicide bombers were indeed just some of the chickens that came home to roost. The US, your tax dollars at work, the CIA, all earned that karma.

Dont blame the messenger.

[Bill L]

Obamamania I don't really think your an Obama supporter or your really stupid to think what you said would help him get elected. Cheap shots like that are so imuture

[strick]

yulle, you must be uneducated and stupid. You stated blacks are voting for Obama because we think we are getting a free check up the road. Can you tell me why whites are voting for him? ignorant ass

[gino midlands]

Re Rev Wright:
Spouting nonsense is an important part of a clergyman's job.

I also understand Rev Writght IS a U.S. Marine. Love those guys. Cut them a lot of slack.
Bill Clinton was a U.S. wiener.....

[pauL HERNANDEZ JR SFC US ARMY]

Lady Hillary what church do you go to "the Church of the holy lies". Quick duck there is a sniper comment coming at you from me an Iraq war veteran who knows the value of 4000 of my comrades in arms lives. They knew duty honor country none of which you have a clue on. You are grasping at straws after conducting an ineffective campaign which spent over 100 million and you want to run our budget? No thanks. YOu are trying to bring Barack Obama down to your rightful place in the gutter but thankfully the American people have spoken and not selected you to take the democratic banner to the fall election no matter what reality you create in your condo on De Nile. Your sense of entitlement ha brought you to an ugly place and your husband has already ruined what legacy he ha left just by sticking his split tongue into the contest. Don't go away mad just go away and let Barack Obama turn the page as Bob Seger would say and win one for us the veterans against the Iraq war and the rest of our patriotic americans who believe in truth liberty and the american way.

[Sean]

Shame on you Hillary for this dirty trick of yours. Who do you think you are going to fool?

[ADJr]

I'm tired of Ms. Clinton's self-serving words. Sometimes they can be quite "holier-than-thou". It's not easy to raise oneself on a pedestal and remain there for long.

[Bill L]

Obamamania everyone here thinks your a republican
I would think more like a sick Clinton supporter I'm a republican that will vote for Obama .. Rush even knows Obama will beat McCain because so many of us republicans can not stand McCAIN. But the truth is we dislike Hillary about as much. But Obama to me he is a breath of fresh air . He is smarter than all of them put together and he has not been in Washington long enuff to be part of the old boy machine..

[Emlyn]

There was no sniper fire? Quick, change the subject!

This is how a future president of the free world intends to conduct herself? I would have no self-respect.

My guess is that if Obama's pastor had been Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson, or John Hagee she'd have nothing bad to say, right?

Why the double standard?

[closet dem]

I have to agree with Lhar.

[Jon Becker]

Hillary must still be smarting from the article by ZZ Packer.
I personally would never socialize with the likes of Geraldine Ferraro and am surprised Clinton would.

[Loyal Democrat]

Time to call out the Clinton FEAR machine again ...already!

To janetP - Are you too young to know about Whitewater? Since real estate deals are important to you, I suggest you search on it....

To Randy - I assume you're saying he would not support it, just like he does not support the names you mentioned.

To sickanig - huh? Do you even live in america?

[donald169]

Shakespeare said it best: "A plague on both their houses!" We need a grown-up, and let these two equally ambitious and self-centered politicians stay in the Senate together, glowering at each other for the next four years. Bring back Biden. Draft Gore. Find a responsible winner.

[Obamamama]

I love this double talk. Oprah who made billions on woman's talk show showed she is a racist. She invited only a black candidate. african americans vote for obama - based on race. Last time I checked that meant you are racist!
When racists elect Obama, they are setting the the entire black race for failure!
Want an example why these folks are racists? Why are they calling themselves African americans? Why not include are the other blacks? That is because they do not want to share power with the other blacks. They think only blacks from africa should gain power. Are these really blacks from africa? No. these blood has been diluted with generations of white slave owners. They are as african american as the native americans are 100% native.
Viva la the racist "african americans". These are the ones who wanted to adopt french names to sound fancy.

[Shima]

It is a pure joke when news/medias says that Donna Brazile is uncommitted. She is committed to Obama and news/medias knows it very well. One can see how openly she praises Obama and say nasty things about Clinton. She is one of the Obama's supporters often selected by news/medias as their panel members to campaign free of charge on behalf of Obama which is a true sign of injustice against Clinton.

[bruce becker]

The Bosnia fake heroism makes her unelectable.
Remember the Swift-boat?
The right wing is not Obama. They will run ads on this lie every day all fall.
She must end her campaign for the good of the party.
Someone in the superdelegtate Clinton camp has to explain this to her. She cannot win the general election after this lie about her heroism. She did mistake poetry and flowers for bullets. She was caught in a terrible lie.

[Fred]

Donna Brazile can go jump in a lake. Hillary has put up with this lying skunk Obama for much too long. She needs to get serious about exposing his fraud on the public, before it's too late.

[Karyn Glodr]

For God's sakes, Wright attended a prayer breakfast! A prayer breakfast! There was no (or little) relationship between he and Bill Clinton. Why does Brazile think this is even worthy of mention?

This issue with Wright is NOT about race, but Obama and his supporters are deflecting the issue to that. It's more about one man's very close and intensely personal relationship - for 20 years - with a minister who has made ugly and inflammatory remarks. Why shouldn't we be concerned about this? I agree with some of what Reverend Wright has said, but what's with the God Damn America and that crazy thing about HIV and a government conspiracy? I have concerns with that, and about Obama's judgment in aligning himself with Wright.

As far as Clinton's remarks about what she would do if her pastor said those things - her comments were not racist, but people are crying that it's negaive campaigning. It's interesting that Obama supporters talk about the negative campaigning from the Clinton camp. First it was Stephanie Power and the 'monster' remark - one of the ugliest things I've ever heard. Then there was Tony McPeak calling Bill Clinton a Joe McCarthy wanna-be (excuse me, but it's Hillary that's running, not Bill). Then you have this guy from Iowa bringing up the 'blue dress' (again, Bill's not running). And finally, you have the Obama staff saying Hillary is 'deeply flawed' - one of the lowest comments I've heard yet. Yeah, right, nothing negative coming from the Obama campaign!

With Clinton and Obama in a statistical tie, she should stay in the race.

[Aba N. Done]

When Donna Brazile suggests there's a potential downside to turning away, with nary a forgiving nod, from those who once stood by you, is she referring to Clinton walking away from Wright or all of the African-Americans who have abandoned the Clintons, who stood by them for years and years?

[David]

Does anybody even have a count of how many standards Hillary have?

She has no shame in looking straight in the eye and lying.
She had no anwer but "I don't recall" when she was being questioned during white water investigation.

She said she will not turn down lobbyist money.

...and now proclaims to be the defender of common working people. She see no shame in lying during the election. If she is elected president, she will drop nuclear bomb on the us citizens and will say, "I do not recall pushing that button". Please send home that liar now.

[alee21]

But the point is that the blacks have forsaken the Clintons.

So Brazille is saying Clinton should defend Obama? Why? Obama did nothing to stop the South Carolina controversy; he stoked the Ferraro episode for all it's worth to benefit him.

They are all politicians and they all want to win the nomination.

Hillary Clinton has to fight back -- look at what the Obama camp is doing.

So spare me the feel-good, touchy feely nonsense.

[Janten]

Pat Taylor is wondering: "Does Hillary have a pastor?"
Check out these pages. . .

Hillary's Nasty Pastorate
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

[Phil Douglas]

This 20 year veteran does not appreciate Senator Clinton's false claim to have been "under fire."

You'll note that's it's clear from the video that no-one except the military personnel in uniform were wearing bullet proof equipment, such as Kevlar helmet and body armor.

Her seeking to wrap herself in such false heroics demeans all military personnel (and MANY Department of Defense civilians) who have been heroic. And I might add these people have had to leave their children at home, not take them to such a danger zone.

[Margaret]

All candidates "crazy" pastors are up for discussion to be fair. Hillary is a hypocrite and her ultra-right-wing prayer "cell" as they call it is much creepier than Wright:
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"There's a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

"You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as "The "Fellowship," also known as The Family.

"But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

"Sean Hannity has called Obama's church a "cult," but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton's "Family," which is organized into "cells"--their term--and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia.

The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes--knitting together international networks of right-wing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian.

"In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolf Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:

"During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership.

"The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators.

"During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.

Clinton fell in with The Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker.

"When she ascended to the Senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's "most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton.

She has written of Doug Coe, The Family's publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."
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[Ishshah]

I am not sure what URL is or where to find one, but I do know what a LIE is and it's not a verbal mistake, especially when you have a video showing that what you say is absolutely nothing like the actual situation that took place. Was Hillary trying to sound like she put herself in some real danger, that she was actually brave enough or foolish enough to dodge bullets as she ran from her plane or helicopter or whatever transportation she had the privilege of making her foreign travel in. She took her friends and family for a trip, from my point of view.

As far as Pastor Wright is concerned, he is a black minister and if he is unhappy with the politics of America, especially in today's world, it isn't very surprising. Obama is very confident in who he is and what he believes. I have several loved friends and family that say things that make me shutter sometimes, and I believe they have a right, it doesn't effect what I believe. Let's just listen carefully to what the canidate says and not what their supporters or others say. It is extremely important to me that the next president of our great country is truthful and the idea of honesty will be a refreshing difference after the past eight years. Elizabeth

[A de la Torre]

Although Rev Wright comments are divisive and crude. There is some truth to his comments in how our country is perceived by the rest of the world, ie. arrogant and superioristic. I am very proud to be an American, but our government has done some pretty horrible things throughout the world. It is a reality we need to confront, he just was overly blunt in how he put it. Sometimes its hard to look in the mirror

As far as race, I can see from some of the posts, unfortunately racism is quite alive in the US.

Clearly Obama is not perfect, but I believe he is our best hope to re-establish our credibility and ability to engage the rest of the world.

As a Latino, born in NYC, Non-Black America, including myself, can't even compare what is defined as racism compared to what Blacks in America have suffered for generation upon generation.

I used to consider voting for Hillary if Obama didn't get nominated. If Hillary wins, I probably won't vote at all. I haven't witnessed Obama tearing her down to the point if she wins, the Republicans could use what he said against her. Unfortunately, she'll said anything to win, even if it means sacrificing the Democratic party's ability to win the November election.

[Fred]

Good point Aba. Before Obama began his deceptive campaign, the Democrats were strongly supportive of the Clintons. Now, after lie upon lie, race card upon race card, Obama has destroyed the unity of the party, and will most likely hand the Presidency over to McCain. One more thing; unfortunately, Obama has also set race relations back about 50 years.

[Daly]

Doug Williams Thank you! for raising a daughter that looks at more that the first woman or first black. Whatever she decides you can be proud that she has at least used her own brain to reach her decision.

As we raise our son I am always stressing to him to look at all angles and make his choices based on his own brain power.

Not that it matters but I am a black christian woman married to an african muslim man. My son has a name from my husband's country, while I do not intend or expect that my Son would ever run for president; after this year I am afraid that his name and his ancestry would haunt him.

Our family like Obama's is a salad, we happily include german, irish, swedish, chinese & puerto rican AMERICANS in the family. I celebrate this fact and look forward to when the word race will only mean to do or move quickly.

I hope Obama can move us toward celebrating our diversity . Yes We Can!

[MJ]

Thank goodness there are intelligent people on this board who see the truth about Obama. The New York Times comment section is infested by the crazed Obama-cult.

[Evelyn]

It has been so obvious that Super Delegate Donna Brazile is an Obama Supporter- why doesn't she just come out and say it? Is it because of her gig as a news pundit?

It seems that all of the pundits on tv along with the anchors are super sensitive with anything negative said about Senator Obama while Senator Clinton is free game.

[Karyn Grodr]

To Aba N. Done:

I have to disagree with you. The African-Americans haven't turned their back on the Clintons. They see in Obama an opportunity for an African-American to be president. I can't imagine how proud they must feel that it could possibly happen in our lifetimes! Fifteen years ago we could never have envisioned this. So I don't see them abandoning the Clintons as much as embracing a future with an African-American president. It's an amazing thing.

I feel the same way backing Hillary Clinton. A woman in the White House in my lifetime would be amazing. Whoever wins - Clinton or Obama, it will be awesome and we will have great reason to feel proud.

[One Man Truth Squad]

Ahh, the magic dust is wearing off. It's kind of funny what happens when the caring/sharing people find someone in between them and the power they truly crave. Witness both Hillary and Barack.

The Bosnia thing is kinda funny and sooo typical. But actually ol' Hil has a point about Wright. The press gave BO a huge pass on this subject after he mesmerized them with his speech - the one where he effectively distributed the blame for his and Wright's wrongs to everyone from the Founding Fathers to his grandma. Then he deigned to forgive us all and even help us in our personal growth. Thanks, but no thanks.

Donna Brazile merely reminds everybody that blacks have an almost total immunity to the kryptonite of charges of racism.

[HILLARYOUS CLINTON]

Hillaryous definition: When someone describes a situation in a way that benefits their selfish goals, despite all of evidence to the contrary (reality).

1. Obama leads Hillary Clinton in delegates by 121, popular vote by almost 750,000, he also leads in the number of states won. However, Senator Bayh of Indiana, who backs Clinton for president, proposed a new Hillaryous gauge by which superdelegates might judge whether to support Clinton or Obama. He suggested that they consider the electoral votes of the states that each of them has won. What a hillaryously undemocratic method to override the will of the majority of the voters in the Democratic party.

[Clyde Nelson]

Obama's statement "typical white person" is racist, absolutely!! So don't go around saying HC is racist. Obama is backed by the Black Panthers and if elected President they'd be dancing in the streets in the Middle East, as they did on 9/11. There is no excuse whatsoever for Wright to take God's name in vain and to be so anti-american. Let him leave this country and go to Africa if he feels that way (and take Obama with him.) Obama is a good speaker but so was Hitler.

[Daly]

But the point is that the blacks have forsaken the Clintons? Get serious, I challenge this thinking with the facts. YES, blacks voted for BILL clinton, just as they voted for Carter, Gore and Kerry in nearly extactly the same numbers and percentages that Obama is now enjoying.

Contract this with how many blacks supported Jackson, and Sharpton? Lastly consider IF blacks were simpletons and vote for someone just because they are black, how do you explain Alan Keys ?

Fact is BEFORE Bill's many vailed remarks most blacks got a clue, the same clue that Richardson got - the Clintons have no class and certainly no appreciation for past deeds.

[humblesage]

donald169
So you think Rev. Wrights clip is not out of the context? Is Obama's denunciation something people do not want to hear?
The issue is, even the question was provoked, the answer stand in itself. The fact of the matter is, Hillary answered to the out of context question with out of context answer. It is a major blunder for her. Especially when she should be wooing remaining Superdelegates.
It is the major NO NO, when her opponent is comprehensively answered the issue with all the background context considered.

[Andy]

I agree Lhar. But the even sadder reality is that Americans cant even concentrate on REAL issues anymore effectively to do something about them. We can only be sidetracked by pastors and claims of heroism true or untrue. This is why i believe that much like the Roman empire America has seen her heyday. We are a nation of overweight, selfish, hateful, selfgratifying, snobbish and pretentious people. We dont even care enough about our nation to actually do something about it. I am worried about no healthcare and way high gas prices, not to mention jobs and high-end investment bank collapses. These are only a meager few of the chief concerns of Americans. I am sick literally of all these hateful people including racists who cant stand to see some progress made. When will the majority of people feel stronger about change than being right on history or saying the most nasty and insensitive things to one another. I think i see the future..we argue and fight ourselves into an even more depressed economy where all of our"money" is being spent ever more on the military machine. Once all our eggs are in one basket all it will take is a bigger basket to come along. This nation could be stronger by diversity..politically, economically, and socially but there are those who would just as soon see it flounder and fail. Put your support behind someone who sees and strives for this. People need to wake up and actually sacrifice and strive for somethng better tomorrow and stop going to work and coming home and going to dinner and church on Sunday and thats it. Getting too comfortable with the little bit you have oblivious that its being taken away from you little by little. The only way things will get better Here is when people say enough is enough and start asking for accountiblity and doing something for change. I think that people deep down inside feel they have no power save for scathing remarks to one another that really get nowhere and do nothing. If all you can do for change is say hateful things to other people you dont want change so get out of the way for people who do.

[humblesage]

donald169
So you think Rev. Wrights clip is not out of the context? Is Obama's denunciation something people do not want to hear?
The issue is, even the question was provoked, the answer stand in itself. The fact of the matter is, Hillary answered to the out of context question with out of context answer. It is a major blunder for her. Especially when she should be wooing remaining Superdelegates.
It is the major NO NO, when her opponent is comprehensively answered the issue with all the background context considered.

[Reality Check]

The Democrats cannot win without the Black vote...if you think you can wait and see. Reality Check

[goldenstate]

Brazile is an Obama supporter. Rev. Wright has already destroyed Obama's chances of becoming President. Obama may beat Hillary, but he will lose to McCain. The Republicans will use Wright to bring down Obama.

[Elisabeth]

Obama could have found another UCC location to attend. Brazile pretends she's uncommitted. She's in Obama's pocket. There's a difference in attendiing a breakfast, as opposed to sitting in a pew listening to racist rants by a christian minister. Brazile is not objective when it comes to Obama. She should join his campaign.

[sona]

Hillary is on par with Bush/Rove/Cheney when it comes to lying and destroying other people.

Not a quality person, small character, poor ethics, dishonest to the core.

You can tell when she is lying when ever you see her lips move.

A very poor leader, power and money grubbing corrupt, and vindictive.

Go buy Bill some more cigars, Hillary.

[Carol E.]

it's sad to say but every body calm down. to all the women haters the woman won't win and to all the color haters the black man won't win. JUST GET READY FOR ANOTHER REPUBLIC FOR AT LEAST FOUR MORE YEARS....

[AlFonse]

Being caught red-hand with an outright lie (about Bosnia) seems to re-inforce the impression that the Clintons thinks lies are problems only if they are caught. Of course you can't say that you lied so you said you "mispoke". What does that mean? Voters should recognize this as what it is - an outright lie. What's the difference between this and the lie about the WMD that led to the Irag debacle?

[kcjc]

Donna Brazile needs to get a grip. What does "Brazile's none-too-subtle point: There's a potential downside to turning away, with nary a forgiving nod, from those who once stood by you" have to do with anything? You are getting down and ugly. You cannot hide your favor of Senator Obama and your dislike of Senator Clinton...it shows! It looked like you were crying on This Week with G. S. over the Wright problem and fear that this was hurting Senator Obama. What is relevant was Senator Clinton answered a question. Who distributed the photo of President Clinton and Wright? It was the Obama camp and it obviously has backfired. Was she suppose to say she would sit in his church when directly asked? Wright attended a prayer breakfast with how many other ministers? Senator Clinton owes him nothing! We do have a choice and I happen to think that his choice is wrong for America!

[kh]

Uncommitted superdelegate?

Everytime she speaks she is pro-Obama.

I heard her even try to defend him over the Wright controversy.

I have lost all respect for Obama-Brazile.

[Scott]

I wouldn't turn away from Rev, Wright, I agree with the things he's said. Americans hate to be told we've done something wrong, hell we've been wrong all over the map and then some. If there was a God, we should be damned. But religion and the believe that some God is on our side is just as wrong as the racial bigotry that still pervades this country and the rest of the world.

[Gerald]

Many of the posts above are paid bloggers - the Obama campaign has hundreds of people doing this on their behalf.

So. Hillary was asked a direct question in an interview and answered it. Sorry you did not like her answer.

Rev. Wright insulted Hillary and Bill in at least 2 videos I saw. He owes her an apology.

At least - mixing politics in church will lose that church their tax-exempt status.

Hate is hate people - Rev. Wright crossed some lines. He and Barack now have to live with this issue that will NEVER go away.

They should accept counseling, learn from it, apologize then move on.

[jwalker]

As I see it Hillary Clinton doesn't owe the Black Community anything, at least not the 85-90 percent who deserted her as soon as an African American appeared on the scene. I think it's fairly obvious she misspoke. In this age of video all the time and everywhere it would be stupid for someone to willfully lie about something like that and she is not stupid! Also the amount of ignorance on this blog is stupefying.

[David Rosenberg]

What happened to Joe Biden? Did the cat get his tongue?

[Daly]

Not sure if this is a duplicate, if so my apologies.
Blacks are voting for Obama in nearly the exact same numbers that blacks supported Bill (x2), Carter, Gore and Kerry.
Jackson and Sharpton did not get this support.
Backs are not simpletons pack voters. If that were the case, then how do you explain Alan Keys? I'd be he got even less black support that Hillary. Blacks were actually split this time until billary started the bullary.

[Doc Alaska]

Where is Rev. Wright? Hiding in Africa or the Carribean.

Odd that he cannot be found to be interviewed. That just says that Obama does not want him to spew right now.

Maybe he is being held against his will? No one in all this election media we have can find him?

[Truth Detector]

QUOTE:
And I as an african american women remember that the Clintons where very protected and good to our community way before Obama. Bill Clinton even established his presidentail office iand non-profits n Harlem. Im sticking with them.

Posted by: Hazel Diane Razheda Moore | March 25, 2008 at 04:55 PM
END QUOTE

Ok MISS MOORE, I call bs. If you really were an African American "Women" you would have spelled "woman" correctly and not used the plural form for yourself. You probably would have used "protective of" instead of "protected" which makes no sense as well.

Let's face it. Your neither African American or or concerned about truth in politics, as demonstrated by your poor attempt to spin in favor of Clinton.

[TK]

At this point I really cannot tell the legit Clinton supporters from these rabid, right-wing talk show street teamers...

I'm a middle aged white guy from the suburbs. I used to be a Republican and even voted for McCain in the 2000 primary. (Voting for Gore in November. I wasn't stupid or crazy.)

But I have to tell you that the campaigning by the Clinton's turns my gut.

I'll vote -- gladly -- for Obama in November. But if I don't get the chance this may well be the FIRST presidential election I don't vote in.

McCain has proven himself to be almost as incompetent (in his understanding of the basic facts in the ME) as the man whose policies he now seems eager to inherit.

And Clinton?

I've had a belly full of her lies, her deceit, her racism, and her gutter politics.

[Malama Makena]

I used to like the Clintons but Hillary has shown me her true colors. How can she say she'd reject her pastor if he said things like Wright (does she actually have a pastor? Do they go to church?) but not reject her lying, philandering husband who brought far more disgrace to The White House than any words in church ever could?

She's just trying to change the subject from her own lying about Bosnia. Oh, I'm sorry, she "misspoke." Like Bill did - "I didn't inhale," "I didn't have sex with that woman," It depends what the meaning of is is."

They're both liars. I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theories about Ron Brown's death, and Vince Foster's. You can't trust anything they say.

Spare us from putting the lying Clintons back in the White House!

[RobinL]

Here she goes again. She has so exaggerated her role at every turn--by now it comes as no surprise that the Bosnian incident played out in the tepid, safe way it did. Can this lady tell the truth?

Now she wants to refocus on the stale Wright affair. Way to go, Hillary. Remind us that you are always scrambling around for any way to twist things for your own purposes. And while you're at it---remind us all again that you wouldn't have Wright as your pastor but you'd keep a lying, cheat like Bill for a husband. Good one! GREAT judgment!!

[Hoosier]

If you had a neighbor, and you had a dispute with that neighbor, who would you rather sit down and hash it out with? Barrack? or Hillary?

[Hillary 08]

I don't see the big deal in forgetting or misstating a few things. It's a crime to lie in testimony (perjury), but certainly not to mildly misrepresent the minute-by-minute activities of a trip over a decade ago. I can't remember what I had for breakfast last Thursday; does it make me a liar if I think it's cereal?

Her husband has an extramarital affair and she stands by him. That's a sign of fidelity and loyalty on her part, in spite of what others may say. In fact, it's this tenacity that will make her such a good president. I fear for the simple-minded fool that steps into the path of her America. That's a good thing.

On the other hand, Obama gets his band of happy techies together to post a youtube video (Yes We Can) that is full of sweet maple syrup. That's about it. Rhetoric so thick that it gags me to watch. I am sick of this garbage that we can all decide to get together next week and we'll build a better future. The truth is that greed will always win out and then the rest is all downhill. And when that happens, this man will be just another ineffective wannabe.

Hillary is already prepared for the inevitable. She can fight. She can even fight dirty, but so far she hasn't even broken a sweat. I can't wait until she's on the ticket.

[charlieb]

Donna, Donna....after what Wright said about Bill Clinton and Hillary "in the pulpit" ...remember..."Doing to us what he did to Monica...." Please! You bring up a prayer breakfast where hundreds of ministers were in attendance? Does Hillary Clinton owe Wright? I don't think so. Who put out the picture of President Clinton and Wright? Oh yeah, it was the Obama camp, backfire. You cried on This Week w/George over the Wright problem...you are about as uncommitted as Michelle Obama! Incidentally, you sold her out in the Green Room saying you thought she was the reason that Senator Obama continued to go to that church!!! Get real!

[KOR]

Once again we are dealing with the media's biased spin.I saw the press conference. Hillary was directly asked if she would have stayed with the church and she said no. They kept trying to press her to say Obama was wrong, but she wouldn't go there. She said it was a personal choice with a lot of factors to consider, but that Wright wouldn't have been her pastor. If the Obama camp wants to complain about this one, they are nothing but whiners. Talk about trying to turn nothing into something.

I am disappointed about the story Hillary told about Bosnia. I have to think, though, that knowing how much scrutiny she is constantly under, she did not lie intentionally. She would have to know she would be caught--it makes no sense. So for now I choose to believe that she "misremembered." Lord knows I've done it myself.

Of course, Obama has to scream about this because he just has no comparable experience. She is the only First Lady to ever go into a war zone. He may be a breath of fresh air to some, but there are just some jobs I want an experienced person for: surgeon, plumber, President...

I am sick of Obama crying foul every time someone makes a valid point about him. We can't question his cocaine use--we might be stereotyping black men. He's invented a whole new set of rules--who knew fairytale was a racist word??? He lied about his aide's meeting in Canada, he lied about his authorship of several Senate bills, he lied about Resko, he lied about his association with his pastor. They go on and on. The story about Bosnia pales in comparison.

[hannah]

“There was dramatic increase in the number of black men incarcerated during Clinton's term(...). In the Reagan-Bush years, the rate grew from 1,156 prisoners per 100,000 black men to about 2,800 per 100,000. In the Clinton years, the rate grew to 3,620 prisoners per every 100,000 black men.”

The late Jerry Falwell Pat Robertson and Rev. John Hagee. Are they un-patriotic? Check this (all citations from “Point-counterpoint”, which you may Google for yourself))

“About 9/11, Falwell said "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For The American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say'you helped this happen.'''

And Pat Robertson: "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, this is not a message of hate - this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." This was Robertson commenting on "gay days" at Disney world.”

“John McCain's spiritual advisor is Rev. John Hagee. He says that the Roman Catholic Church and Hitler formed an alliance for the purpose of exterminating the Jews. Hurricane Katrina for him, was God's punishment for a gay rights parade that occurred in New Orleans”
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[JP]

AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LACK OF TEACHING OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY. IF EVERY STUDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPERLY EDUCATED YOU WOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF SLAVERY WE HAD OUR RELATIVES RIPPED FROM US ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AND SOLD, SO WITH THAT
MOST AFRICAN AMERICANS MAY NOT EVEN TRULY BE RELATED. THIS IS HOW WE ADAPTED TO EXPAND OUR FAMILY WITH SOMETIMES NON FAMILY BLOOD. WE HAD NO FAMILY AND OUR SENSE OF FAMILY VALUE MEANT NOTHING TO THE SLAVES OWNERS. SO YES A PASTOR CAN BE A RELATIVE IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHETHER YOU CONDONE HIS WORDS OR NOT.

[Maurice]

Soo, Obama should have left his church? Why didn't Hillary leave/divorce Bill. Not only is he a philanderer,but he lied under oath and was impeached. He broke is marriage vows on several occasions. Obama should leave his church when she leaves Bill.

[karl cho]

What about your husband Hillary? Why didn't you leave him when he did great things in white house?

[karl cho]

What about your husband Hillary? Why didn't you leave him when he did great things in white house?

[Willie in Kansas]

Lies, deception, and manipulation=Special Interest Politics

Even though it is good to see ourselves talking and blogging about America's racial divide, we're missing the underlying truth of how this national conversation has come about. At first I was shocked by the U-tube video of Rev. Wright. But now that I have done my homework I have a better understanding of why Obama did not just dump his Church and minister. Now, I feel like I owe Obama and Mr. Wright a gigantic apology. First, because as a Veteran who went to war not because of politics but because I felt obligated to my brothers in my Infantry Co. my need to bring them home all of them regardless of race, gender, religion. I live in big cities, little towns, and abroad. I should have known better. I am in many ways a minority, hispanic, gays, jewish, mormons, protestants, evangelicals, Jehova Witnesses. Yeap, we have them all in my family.

The tape that has enfuriated many of us was doctored or put together in a way to cause the Obama a mortal injury. I saw the unedited sermon and the message and what I got out of it was totally different. If you would see the real sermon you would know Mr. Wright's sermon is not the hatemongering lies that wreck a campaign crew, you know, the swift boat liars that did Kerry in, my want you to take as the true picture of Obama. Here we go again a good guy's reputation being destroyed by those who wants to keep average hard working Americans down, white and blacks alike. We need to guard against liars and manipulative special insterest who want us to mistrust each other, be divided, so they can stay in control. I don't aggree with Mr. Wright's words, not all of them. I don't aggree with the words and beliefs of many denominations. I chose my own Church and I still don't aggree with all of their teachings.

Mr. Obama is courageous for staying with his church even though he may not aggree with Mr. Wright's antics. We can chose our friends but not our family. Sometimes, our family's imperfections and when we're on are our of need it is family who stand by you. Mr. Wright imemories of dogs turned lose and skin ripping presure hoses on unarmed men, women and children and the murders of cilvil rights activists both black and white are still a night terror to him. So, we need to be forgiving of Mr. Wright. Obama knows not all whites are guilty of discrimination and prejudice, he knows many whites gave their lives so non-whites in this country can be treated as rightful cittizens.

Mr. Clinton said she would dump Wright is he was her preacher. Well, she didn't dump Bill after all those women, but now she tells us that she would dump Wright. Dumping your family when they're a liability is expedient and easy, sticking by them during hard times takes courage and shows integrity, loyalty, and courage.
Hillary has made a decision that clearly differentiates what kind of judgement she would make at 3 AM. If part of her constituency is a liablity she might dump you at 3 AM while you're sleeping. Barack would answer the phone come over to your house and would be there for you. No doubt she was a very strong first lady, but Obama's quality makes him the best choice for President.

[Alex]

Hillary will win the Democratic nomination despite all the mud thrown her way. The African American Community turned their backs on the Clinton's during the Primaries. There is no such thing as loyalty anymore.

[LT]

Instead of defending Wright, spinning his nasty hatred, and threatening everyone who talks about him, Obama could try his change promise, and start not with Washington, but closer to home, in his church. And Dona Brazille, could join the effort. The simple truth is most people are trully appalled that hatred like that is being spewed at places of worship, and that has nothing to do with people being racist. Clinton, and everyone else should openly talk about Wright, and everyone should call on the african american leaders to put an effort to clean that.

[cheryl]

Thank you for pointing this out about the prayer breakfast. I was hoping someone would point that out...and best of all, it was someone with some clout. Nothing will deter me from supporting Obama. Now if someone would just point out the 100,000 Republicans in Ohio that voted for Hillary just to stir things up. Four of our Republican friends did just that and then had the nerve to tell us. I may forgive but I'll never forget....scratch that...I'll never forgive them if Obama isn't the nominee.

[ron godzala]

So obama says we need to a talk about racism. The only time we talk racism is when a white person says something but the jessej jacksons and the al sharptons the masters of racism and using the race card get afree pass. If you think white america has a monoply on raism you are either ignorant or an idiot. I forgot the so called rev wright who is also racist and an american hater. How much longer does white america have to pay for slavery.

[Linda from Texas]

I want to know if this true:

Did Hillary's pastor Dean J. Snyder write a support letter for Reverend Wright dated March 19, 2008 stating tht he was an outstanding church leader? If so, I expect her to denounce his words and leave this church!

Did President Bill Clinton give a lifetime achievement award to James William Fulbright- Hillary's mentor and known Ku Klux Klansman?

[MissClarity]

When your church is the Church of Deceit and Invalidation of Others Values it makes sense that she would say pointing to the sky "the sky will open and celestial chiors will sing and there will be light" and then laugh mocking the Lord thy God (you know but she doesn't know the First Commandment - Thou shalt not mock the Lord thy God. There is someone greater than the evil one deciding this election and I say Obama is accountable to his God because with all his human shortcomings the Pastor is not evil.

[MissClarity]

Mystery Moderator: Did you go home at 8:00 p.m.? I think so.

[christian]

Donna Brazile - excuse me, but, hat a loser.

Between her and Dean, they have effectively disenfranchised Florida and Michigan...and tried to hand the nomination to Obama on a silver platter. This is more than ironic considering Brazile's/Gore's loss in 2000.

The air of neutrality about Dean and Brazile reeks. Stay "neutral"...and then chide, wag fingers, and spew crap such as Ms. Brazile's opining- sans the Obama sanction. Brilliant!

Hey, after lying about knowing/not knowing of Rev Wright's abhorrent opinions, how can Senator Obama hold his head high and say he's different. He is just ANOTHER POLITICIAN.

Another politician- but quite a clever one. He hung onto his core constituency through South Carolina, Mississippi etc...and only when confronted, and only then, did he address the Rev Wright issue. Hmmmm

We've all heard about the Clinton machine. I think there is indeed an Obama machine- and it ain't pretty either. Unfortunately for Senator Obama, the chickens are coming home to roost.

[particular]

Obama is always Wright.

[christine]

America America God shine his light on you . while you are being distracted what is really going on around you? Do you not know while you hold down the opponent neither one of you are going any where. Think about it. Children tell on each other , one so you can't see what they are doing. They try to get the other in trouble. Usaully the one who has the most to hide talks the loudest, talks the most, try to manipulate and insult the intelligence of who ever will listen ,will play the victim cry do anything rather than take responsibility for ones own action. My brothers and my sisters we must all learn our ABC's-Action,Behavior, Consequence. But if you don't believe in truth, honesty, integrity,and love for one another nothing matters. I love America, I want to walk all over this land. If you get your foot off me we can walk together in Peace. Aren't you tired of all this fighting? Aren't you ashame the children are watching and the world is watching us. We are better than what we are showing the world. Most of all God loves you and he is watching us all. .

[Sergei Rostov]

Lots of people seem to be missing the point - it's not a loyalty issue AT ALL.
Wright has been saying the same racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American things since the BEGINNING of his tenure at Trinity (the same as his OWN spiritual mentor), LONG BEFORE Obama joined the church.
Obama has STILL not explained why he even JOINED such a church, MUCH LESS why he took Wright as his spiritual MENTOR , MUCH LESS got MARRIIED by him, MUCH LESS why he took his KIDS to hear him, and MUCH LESS why he kept going for TWENTY YEARS.

Senator Obama? Senator? Senator? Are you there?

[kevin]

Anyone that stands in the pulpit and says "G** D*** America", we deserved 9/11 (five days later), the gov't invented aids, and his statement that "Bill is doing to us what he did to Monica" , and "Hillary ain't never been called a N****" in a church setting is sick. That's hate. Senator Obama addressed race but never talked about hate. I certainly feel hated just because I am white. Senator Clinton had every right to say she would not stay at a church with Wright. He obviously used the pulpit to say horrible things about her. What right does he have? I believe the cost will be great if Senator Obama is the nominee. His judgement is in question and you don't disenfranchise the voters of two very important states from having a say in their party's choice of nomination. Democrats will loose those states.

[Rae Ann]

Considering the foul language Wright used against both Clintons, I certainly can't blame Hillary for speaking out against him.

[Willie B]

I'm not really fond of superdelegates being played out recently. Especially Donna Brazile as she's clearly an Obama surrogate, but pretending to be neutral. She went on ABC "This Week" show right after the Wright story broke and said that Wright is "among the more moderate preacher". I cringed (!)

Found this humorous video on the "Superdelegate" topic. Funny but true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc3-2Wol9MM

[Bob]

So when Rev. Wright said in a speech in front of his congregation that "Bill did us like he did Monica...... he was riding dirty...."

That is standing by Bill Clinton in his time of need?

That sounds like someone that is not only hateful, but untruthful in their message.

Come on now where did this hack get their journalism degree.

[Washington f/35]

bruce becker,

Thanks for educating everyone. I am a bi-racial woman and I knew all of this. I try to correct people when ever I can, but it seems you have beat me to it. Any ways, I would like to tell everyone that we have to remember that we don't know who anyone truely supports on this blog or any others. So please don't use the negative ignorance bloggers to determine who you vote for. Those that are posing as AA to stir up and scare away white voters need to stop. It is very dishonest. Just because someone is posting hate statements about whites does not mean the poster is AA. Remember you can't see the face of the blogger. Don't let our emotions make us lose the election. I see it every four years. This is how Republicans are able to win election. Dems become gullible. This is whats going to make us lose this election. They will paint Obama as the black candidate (even though he is half white), say that he hates whites (even though he was raised by them), scare all whites by saying Blacks want to hurt them. I for one do not sit around trying to figure out how to get back at whites. I work ,raise my kids, go to college, and pay my bills like whites do. I don't hate whites and have many white friend. I don't think that all whites are racist, and I know that some blacks are racist but not all. Please don't let AA (African American) posers on blogs trick you into believing the crap! By the way Hillary had AA support until Bill started acting crazy. AA loved Bill and Hill to the point of maddening loyalty. They led Obama in AA votes until January. Obama did not get AA support until February, and before that they said he wasn't black enough.

[Fran]

Did Donna Brazille miss that sermon that was broadcast of Wright saying Bill Clinton "did the black community like he did Monica Lewinsky" as he luridly gyrated behind the pulpit? How supportive. Brazille has been completely biased through the whole primary--this is no surprise.

Clinton was asked a direct question about Wright, after her campaign has refrained from responding for 2 weeks, and as a candidate should, she gave a direct and unequivocal answer. Hate speech should not be tolerated--period. Obama was incapable of taking a strong stand, and those are exactly the kind of firm positions a president needs to make on the world stage to send a message.