| Main |

Hillary Clinton, live, on Saturday Night Live

Dual Hillary Clinton on Saturday Night Live TV March 1 2008 Apparently it pays for a presidential candidate to inject "Saturday Night Live" into a serious political dialogue, as Hillary Clinton did during her most recent debate with Barack Obama.

Clinton's gambit may have struck some of those critiquing the debate as woeful, but SNL opened its latest show with another skit depicting Obama as the media's darling --- and her as its victim. More to the point, the coda to the sketch was an "Editorial Response" -- delivered by the candidate herself.

Clinton exchanged a few quips with her SNL portrayer, Amy Poehler. The pair were dressed precisely alike; cracked Clinton, “I love your outfit. I do want the earrings back.”

Then, Clinton got to deliver the program's signature line: "Live, from New York, it's Saturday Night."

Not a bad burst of free air time as the crucial Ohio and Texas primaries approach. Indeed, while ...

the Clinton camp continues to press its case that Obama has benefited from kid-glove press treatment (the New York Times examined the question in a Saturday piece), he and his aides might be wondering about now if SNL is in the tank for her.

The show's writers could hardly be blamed for such a tilt; the first Clinton presidency kept handing them material they could never have conjured up themselves.

Taking second billing to Clinton -- appropriately, given how his presidential campaign ended up -- was Rudy Giuliani. He appeared during the "Weekend Update" segment, trading a few jokes with "anchor" Seth Meyers (after first getting to plug John McCain, who he quickly endorsed after unplugging his own candidacy, as "an exceptional man").

Giuliani's best line? Comparing his White House quest to a SNL skit: "It started strong, but you really don't have an ending."

Clinton will try one more pre-primary comedy gig Monday on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

-- Don Frederick

Photo from NBC

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/816965/26690070

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Hillary Clinton, live, on Saturday Night Live:

Comments

Admirable final push by Hillary, but the consensus seems to be building against her:
http://acropolisreview.com/2008/02/endorsements-of-barack-obama.html

Mr Frederick ,It appears to be,hands off obama.Stop crying foul with Clinton and SNL. I smell something foul with the news media,giving Obama a free pass.Wipe your tears and fess up. You know it's true.Sit back and enjoy her free pass on SNL.

Why in the world would we ever want a president who, rather than naturally commanding respect and love, resorts to complaining about not getting it? That's not a real leader, that's a manipulator.

Smart move Hillary!! Go Girl! B**** is the new Black. You have my vote.

Go Hillary!!!! Thanks SNL for finally saying the truth and being brave enough to counter the disgusting cult Obama and their Messiah. Thank God someone is actually laying off the kool-aid and thinking for themselves.

Ohio and Texas -- let's go -- get real -- no kool-aid for you.

Hilllary 08

Go Hillary Go SNL. Finally the truth comes out. No more cult Obama -- let's get real!

Hillary 08

I think hillary was awesome. I have decided she gets my vote on tuesday. GO HILLARY!

Just two reasons why their attempt to argue that the media is biased against them is absurd. If Clinton had won ten primaries or caucuses in a row, do you think the MSM would have regarded Obama as still viable? And where are their fricking tax returns? Basic transparency on tax returns is a no-brainer for a presidential candidate. And yet she still hasn't done it and has absolutely no good reason for the delay, except to avoid scrutiny of her husband's post-presidential corporate whoring.

Maybe Clinton deserves bad press. she cheats! she closed the doors an hour early in the nevada caucuses, spread robocalls and emails in nevada and south carolina saying obama was a muslim and anti-semitic and anti-hispanic.

NOW in TEXAS AND OHIO, she's sent instructions for caucus leaders to not let any supporters of other candidates (obama) have any leadership or important positions....

The Dallas Morning News gets hold of Clinton caucus "training materials," in which supporters are instructed to fight for procedural control of caucuses.

The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serve as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

Some of the moments on the ground in Nevada showed how crucial technical control can be, particularly when -- there, as expected in Texas -- nobody has any idea what the rules are. Really makes you love the caucus process.

Pathetic, isn't it! At least this time she didn't drag a small child onto the stage for a photo op. That's enough, it's time to bring down the curtain. Hillary needs to exit before her credibility is completely diminished.
The Clinton Act III should be dropped, two terms of Clintons as POTUS did enough for/to our country..

Why does Hillary keep finding excuses and scapegoats. Obviously she has not an inkling of what it is to be Barack. The media does not have to ask you questions to show they are against you. They can cause great harm through silent insinuations, subtle commentaries, underestimations, and blatant refusal to tell a struggling loser of ELEVEN STATES,go , walk away,move, stop, dejate,parate, done. On close examination, Hillary is the one getting the better part of the media, while the Statesman Obama conducts himself with dignity , pride, respect and the support of the people. He does not blame right wing, left wing,the media, NBC, the "delusional" Obama voters etc, etc. He blames no one . That's the leader we need to represent us here and throughout the world.

Clinton and Giuliani - I guess SNL likes having ex-candidates on the show?

Unfortunately, the skit was unfunny. We get the joke from last week, media's unfair. The audience barely laughed, it was kind of tense. Clinton's bit made it seems like a long commercial.

Giuliani killed. TV funhouse was good also. But man, that skit was lame. Plus, she messed up the line - she said "live from New York IT IS saturday night"

Just saw hilary, weak, really weak. I think you would make an excellent VP or secretary for Barrack, he could use a wise older female satesmen running things

Are you kidding me? Have we as a people gotten so dumb that we actually think that was awesome? What was it she did that was so awesome? She was no Peyton Manning..
Hilary just tell Barrack you want to run with him as his VP, or take a cabinet post I'm sure you know your way around the white house.

Hillary needs to carry Texas and Ohio so she flies to New York City? Reminded me of her Wisconsin strategy when she flew straight to El Paso.

I thought SNL crossed a line last week when Tina Fey, during Weekend Update, said Hillary was, "the new black". Sounded like the gender card trying to trump race.

Hillary seems determined to split the party and take this nomination to the convention which only helps the Republicans stay in the White House. She’s not doing the country any favors and her self serving, manipulative crying, mud slinging and staged theatrics are going to be remembered every time a woman runs for any elected office.

Obama promises change. However, real change isn’t voting against a cap on credit card interest rates and opposing a freeze on home foreclosures for subprime borrowers stung by unscrupulous mortgage brokers. Obama did both. Also, real change isn’t attacking NAFTA in Ohio while your chief policy aide tells the Canadians your criticism is just rhetoric. Obama did that too. (Of course, the story broke through the journalistic integrity of a news station in Canada.)
Hillary Clinton has the heart of a champion. She does not quit. It is that work ethic that has pulled so many people to vote for her. We know she will get the job done!
Hillary Clinton 2008!

Hillary is a natural at thinking on her feet - and funny! Obama has to have his speeches written for him - or plagiarized! - and stumbles and bumbles his way through debates...even when they "softball" him. Hillary is the only candidate who can run this country. I want HER answering the phone in the White House this time next year! VOTE HILLARY!!!

These women who are now going to vote for Hillary based on her SNL appearance is pathetic! As a woman I would like to see a woman in office, the right woman, Hillary is the wrong woman! It would be more of what we've had for the last terrible 8 years! She is a very nasty, manipulative piece of work, haven't we had enough of that?!!

I'm pretty disappointed about the SNL debate sketches both weeks. It's a great 5 minute ad for Hillary. There is definitely a lot of positive press for Obama and SNL doesn't have to be neutral, but this seems over the top. Also, I didn't like that they make Obama sound stupid.


(Check out the SNL for Feb. 23. It was the other way around.)

I find it pathetic that a show as brilliant as SNL has to use it"s voice to endorse Hillary Clinton. Just because you one of you can't successfully do an Obama.. Better luck next time.

Hillary is so awesome. We had a great local visibility showing at our capitol building in Raleigh today. So many of her supporters are rooting for her Tuesday night. We all knew February would be a difficult month but it looks like we are picking up some steam now and about to roll over the competition. I loved the last two SNLs and I can't wait to hear her on Jon Stewart who I watch religiously except recently because he IS one of the biased media. Ever since his remarks last semester when he started dissing her, I knew he was not a supporter. I even enjoy watching Fox news now, a shocker, because they talk crap about both democratic candidates so at least it is equal.

Hillary 4 President 2008!

Barack 4 VP (let him unite congress before he takes on the whole country).

WOW LOOK AT ALL THE OBAMA HATERS ON THIS BLOG! WHEN SAINT OBAMA GOT OPRAH NO ONES WAS WHINING! BOO HOO! HILLARY IS ACTUALLY LIKE BECAUSE SHE HAS MADE STRONG POINTS IN HELPING PEOPLE FOR YEARS UNLIKE SAINT OBAMA AND HIS CROOKED WAYS WITH SLUM LORDS! GIVE IT A BREAK WHY DONT YOU GIVE CREDIT AT LEAST TO A WOMEN THAT HAS ACHIEVED IN LIFE! ARE YOU JEALOUS! SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE BUT BE GROWN UP ENOUGH TO LET OTHERS WANT WHAT THEY WANT! THANK YOU! HILLARY YOUR FREEKEN AWSOME!

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF OBAMA HAS TAKEN A STAND ON LEGALIZING COCAINE AND MARIJUANA. SINCE HE HAS DONE THESE DRUGS HIMSELF HE KNOWS THAT THEY ARE USED FOR PLEASURE AND DO NOT HARM. LEGALIZING WOULD ALSO FREE A LOT OF BLACK FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY PUT IN JAIL FOR DRUG RELATED CRIMES.


(We addressed that issue back on Feb. 5. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/oops-obama-was.html )

Very Funny. Boy the Obama fanatics are sensitive. Obama reminds of a recruiter I met from a Multi Level Marketing Company a long time ago. He use to say over and over sell the dream, sell the dream, people don't care if it works or not. Just sell the dream, people will buy it guaranteed. I watch Obama talk and man he's a really a good talker. I think he's better than that recruiter. Obama belongs in the Hall of Fame for good talkers.

It seems Hillary Clinton thinks she deserves the nomination simply because it's her turn. She's really Washington establishment at its worse.

When things started to look bad for her, she started with the ole school dirty politics, just like Bush.

Now its about fear politics, like Bush.

If she can manipulate a steal, or bogus nonination (like Bush) she will.

I'm glad Ms. Clinton showed who she is and how she'd lead (like Bush).

To: Hillary Supporters

If she's doing so good why has she lost so many times ?

This abrupt SNL appearance by Hillarious is just the typical first sign she's abandoning Ohio ... the very low turnout forecasted for the Columbus rally she cancelled was no doubt a big factor in her decision to break from campaigning ... just like her early departures from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She has far more polling info than we do, too, so I bet she already knows she is going down in BOTH Texas and Ohio on Tuesday.

I like the cartoon SNL had where Obama sent Jesse Jackson to Africa to keep him away from the media and then had Al Sharpton fit with an shocking restraining collar.

Think either of them will get to speak at the DNC?

CLINTONS ARE THE NEW CROOKS (NOT THE NEW BLACK) IN THE TRUE TRADITION OF BUSH, NIXON & ALL THE OLD STALE, CROOKED POLITICAL MACHINES OF THE PAST... SNL - LETTERMAN & THE STATE OF NEW YORK ARE CO-CONSPIRATORS .... IF YA AIN'T CHEATIN' YOU'RE NOT TRYING - SHOULD BE THEIR SLOGAN--NBC OBVIOUSLY REELING FROM CLINTON B.S. IS NOW TRYING TO SHOW HOW LOVABLE A LADY THIS OBNOXIOUS, DECEITFUL WOMAN CAN BE WITH THE APPROPRIATE SUPPORT--TAXES, PRESIDENTIAL PAPERS ? YEA, WILL GET AROUND TO IT , WHEN WE'RE GOOD & READY!! COME ON LAT..WHERE'S YOUR FRONT PAGE STORY ON THESE ISSUES??

I don't like to see the split in the Hillary vs. Obama voters.
And it seems to me that the Obama supporters take it more personally if she ends up winning.
Hey, she was inevitable 6 months ago and emanated a feeling of arrogance - once he became inevitable a few days ago, he started doing the same. It should come at no surprise that the pendulum can swing both ways...

So, one should cast a vote and then follow the will of the majority. And bear no hard feelings if the candidate one didn't support ends up winning. It would be childish to let McCain win and keep the troops in Iraq for 4 more years.

Go Hillary Go! Go SNL Go! How refreshing to have someone give a break to Sen. Clinton and remain fearless and strong in their convictiions! About time Obama is revealed for the political pawn he is. SNL has always been there to expose truth and we need that more than ever now at a time when smooth-talking puppets like this Obama are trying to dupe the entire nation! The Clintons were always individuals-- and how great did we all have it then?
No one controls Hillary or Bill Clinton, and they're on OUR side!
Clinton 2008! Rock that vote!

These debates remind me of the Gore/Bush debates: deer in the headlights. The moderators coach Bush=Obama and try to prop him up, and if he manages to finish a sentence the media say he won.

Hillary should try keeping quiet so he can't piggyback off her answers.

Disgusting. She continues to disgrace and disgust the political process, and obviously a lot of people in power are still not ready to give up on her with this treatment she still gets (Who else would be allowed to whine like this without being attacked more by the media?). I am as far left as it comes, and I will go and vote for John McCain just to keep her out of office, I will campaign for democrats, liberals, and independents to vote for McCain just to send a message to the Democratic party that they can't do this to us anymore.

SNL did not make Obama sound stupid, they just made all his cult followers look stupid!

Obama's tour buses from the airport in Cleveland last night almost killed me (seriously). I was in the right lane on Snow Road in Parma when a State Trooper pulled under the traffic light and just sat there. The light turned green and I hesitated to go through--suddenly a tour bus roared past me from behind in the left lane and made a right turn right in front of my car, with a second tour bus right behind him. So much for homeland security. Safety was less important for the Obama group than making up lost time.

I think Hillary was great. I am sad for some (not all) Obama supporter. Think and relax. Some of Obama's comments sound really as cult-like followers and conspiracy theory followers. Please THINK on your own, relax and let the best person (woman :)) win.

Hillary 08!

We've already voted up here in NH, and we got it right... but we all know that no matter how much we sling mud it won't matter. Everyone has their own reasons for voting for one or the other of the candidates. We must give the people who have not voted yet the opportunity to prove their own intelligence by reading the materials on the pages of the candidates and making their own informed decisions.
We know it will not be a team ticket either way.
Whichever of these candidates wins the nomination will choose someone else for VP. The other candidate will have the opportunity to run again in 4 yrs.
It would be humiliating for Obama to have Hillary as the VP because the foreign leaders would all want to work with her instead of him... and I pray she won't lower herself to have him as her VP. He's just too arrogant to work with.
Oh, well. We've survived ( barely ) 8 yrs of Bush. We can survive 4 yrs of Obama if we have to because people feel the need to run with the pack instead of using their own intellect and voting for experience.

It amazes me that Obama supporters, the people that are supposed to want to unite America are such spoiled sports when any of the media reports something Hillary does in a positive way without using demeaning words.

Obama supporters need to remember that both Hillary and Obama are DEM candidates and a lot, if not half of the Dem party supports Hillary. Remember we had our votes disenfranchised in 2000 & 2004 just like the OB supporters did.

If you have confidence in OB's abilities why do you have to constantly talk down our other Dem candidate? Don't you think he can win on his own merits? Could it be that you do not think he has earned the constant positive press he has been given without ever being asked any hard questions?

The hard questions WILL come and better to allow them to come before the MSM crowns him the nominee, because if not now he WILL have to answer the hard questions in the general election.

Do Dems really want the White House back in 2009?

Make the MSM do their jobs now and start holding him accountable, because if not now, they will certainly be holding him accountable before the general election. If you really think OB is more electable, make him prove it in the nominating process, don't wail until it is too late.

If people are tired of seeing debates between Hillary and Obama, as OB claims, why did the last debate generate a history breaking 7.2 Million record high audience? Why has it been repeatly telecast? Stations do NOT repeat shows that nobody is watching.

Was it POOR judgment on Obama's part when he spoke for the American public and said WE were not interested in seeing him answer hard questions in a debate with Hillary? I think there are more than enough issues for them to debate for at least 4 hours straight.

Is OB trying to hide the fact that he is an empty suit that HAS said one thing and DONE another on several occassions, or is he actually a coward that will say bring it on and then when the going gets tough will hide under his desk?

Two things burn me about McCain's position on the war. (And remember: HIllary helped drive the bus into the ditch.)

One, the "surge" is not a strategy. He keeps saying that the surge is working. The generals went along with the name "the surge" because they're too busy fighting the war to worry about marketing and branding. But a "surge" is not a strategy; it is a logistical means to support a strategy. And McCain has confused the success that comes with more manpower (and superior combat power by any sense of the definition) with strategic and political success. Of course if you put more boots on the ground, especially more American boots, you're going to get the job done. But are you going to change the geopolitical landscape of Iraq so that those troops can come home? No, obviously, because a year later, nothing has changed.

Second, he belittles Obama by saying that we're still in Germany, Japan, and Korea, so of course we'll still be in Iraq in 100 years, and Obama doesn't understand that. What McCain doesn't understand is that we are not still in Panama or Grenada: military action does not equate to a mandatory forced presence forever. Germany, Korea, and Japan are all historical context dependent. In fact, Germany and Japan paid us to remain long after the reason for being there was gone, and the Korean War technically never ended, so that is a very unique situation. McCain says Obama isn't ready to be CinC and doesn't understand military history. I saw, McCain is mixing apples and oranges... no, apples and turnips in making a stretch of an argument to score political points.

Obama claims to be a big proponent of transparency. If this is true, WHY has he refused to put forth his earmarks for 2004 and 2005?

He uses the transparency issue as something to promote himself so why is he not being forth coming?

Another case of him saying one thing and doing the opposite?

Why not hold HIM accountable for a change? Now that would be change I could believe.

Know what? I'm glad Tina Fey ripped the male/misogynist punditocracy a new one with "Bitch is the New Black"--a direct response to McCain being asked, "How do we beat the bitch [Clinton]?"

I'm a feminist and I deplore the casual misogyny that's infected coverage of Clinton's campaign.

But guess what--I'm also a feminist who supports Obama's governance from the bottom up, grassroots-style message and NOT Clinton's defensive, old school/business as usual, "I voted for the Iraq war and even now equivocate over it" politics.

It's not at all a contradiction to hold both positions at the same time. Shut up with the misogyny. AND vote the best candidate in--Obama!

GO HILLARY! Honestly, it's about time Hillary got a positive spot on any media. And it's about time the Church of Obama got a reality check -- his free pass has expired. Reading these comments I can't help but notice how defensive and hostile the Obama supporters are. If he's so fantastic and such a sure thing, there really isn't anything to worry about. What this points out to me is that Clinton is a very serious threat to his "inevitability" (it didn't work for Clinton, not sure why Obama thinks it will work for him.) Poor little Obamacans, can't take a taste of their own medicine.

Really funny stuff! Laughed my ass off...

Seriously though, it has been a long time the political pundits in the media gave Obama a free pass. Nobody questioned him on Rezko, or his muslim education in Indonesia, or his black extremist church. Even his middle name became a taboo. Remember McCain's challenge on his public financing? NYT immediately came out with a sex scandal (without evidence) of McCain to shut him up. This is really scary, if you ask me.

I applaud SNL for their courage. You can tell they are offending a lot of Obama supporters, who are the core audience of SNL. But hay, if the so-called journalists cannot report the news but their biased opinions, why can't the comedians take it over?

Go Hillary. Hillary has the experience and knowledge of dealing with foreign policy. Obama is weak on this, he doesn't even show up for committees.

We need a proven leader not rhetoric. Obama will loose in the general election. These republicans have padded the votes for Obama. You wait and see the republicans will beat Obama in a landslide.

Obama speaks of uniting but he puts out false mailers and then he whines anytime Hillary tackles him on an issue. For example, the children ad, it even had to copy the ad from her. What a fraud, he must of passed Harvard by stealing others works.

I want a person who has her own ideas. A person that doesn't need on the job training, we already had seven years of that. Its time for the American people to get out of the Obama trance, he is too weak.

Poor, Hillary, not this time. You're so controversial: your mood, anger and sarcasm. This tells a lot!

Go home Hill. Bye!

Hmm inspirational speaker Barack Obama seduces the Democratic party and wins nomination over other, more qualified, candidates. Wait, I've seen this before...

Ironic that a Clinton seduced the democrats (and the nation) in 1992, and a Clinton is now on the receiving end of the same treatment 16 yeas later.

Ain't it great?

It's not about jumping on Hillary. She is a dirty, dirty politician. She has lied to the people repeatedly not only about policy, if that was it I'd say fine whatever thats politics, but more importantly she lies and covers up her money trails for decades now. She uses smear tactics that the republicans do in the worst way justifying it by saying well I'm the best for the job and the republicans are gonna do this so get used to it. Why should I vote for her because of just that? I don't want a liar in office. Not someone who has so directly lied to me for decades, that is the issue. And don't respond about lies about policy - that is all judgement calls and we can bicker all day back and forth about Obama and Clinton about who lies about their policies and don't and we will never agree. The fact is is that Hillary Clinton has lied and covered up serious crimes her whole life and aides take the fall for her repeatedly. I, and the Americain people, do not want to knowingly select another liar whatever her intentions are for it. Maybe Obama isn't the answer - but Hillary Clinton is not. That is why I would vote for John McCain over her and actively campaign - I expect that from the republicans, and well from the democratic party to - but I believe if she get the nomination playing this dirty game, and with all of her past lies and crimes still on her, that we the democrats that know this and don't support her need to send a loud and large clear message to the Democratic party - and that message is that you lost us, and you lost us so much we are willing to sacrifice are ideals just to tell you this so you don't ever try to pull this cr*p on us again. We are fed up and sick of it. Most of you don't realize how deep the lies go in the Clinton camp, and how dirty, real, and illegal things they are up to. Unfortunately, it is either because you haven't followed it, or you are naive and buy into the propaganda being fed you for every other alternating excuse she has for it. I am fed up and sick of liars. Liars that are so direct. That is what it comes down to. If you don't know what I'm talking about with the Clintons, well, I can't show you and convince you of it, you have to look at everything on your own over time - there is too much dirt to explain it, and too much dirt to show, but I will start by just putting these two links on here and telling you to watch Hillary, what she does, and what she says, and tell me why would I ever want this person making decisions for me when they so blatantly lie to everyone? It is that simple fact.
Here are just a few to get started-

Campaign Financing Scandal -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIf84llCRPc

Planted Questions Scandal -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ifd944e_TE

Conspiring to kick out Canidates from the debates scandal - http://youtube.com/watch?v=RLzqoDv6d_E

Now tell me why would I ever want this person to be President? Why would I ever support her? Don't defend and compare to other canidates, just tell me why would I support such a blatant criminal liar? All of these things were in the last 8 years by the way, its alot dirtier and f'ed up then those three mini-scandals, although that first one is pretty bad, and they all are pretty bad. I can't take anymore of you idiots blindly supporting a blatant liar, and the media covering it up and allowing her to get away with this. There are tapes, tapes, tapes, tapes, documents, and more, and everyone covers it up for her. Enough is enough. Be happy you arent in jail hillary and go away quietly.

That's exactly right (commentor)....Obama piggy-backs on a lot of Hillary's responsesI. I don't think he h s a clue.

Ba-lack obama is a vague and empty do-nothing. Integrity? HA. He has a minimal record of doing ANYTHING--which is one neat rick to seem clean. If I sat locked in aroom for 40 years not offering an opinion (or vote) on anything, I would be clean too.

He is also a lazy-ass thief who runs on great speeches--OF OTHERS (they were great when King gave them over 40 years ago and they worked nicely for his bud, Devil Patrick); but get some of YOUR OWN lines you insignificant cretin. I wonder if he even UNDERSTANDS what he is saying.

A vote for obama is a vote for vapidity, vagueness, and a vote is a terrible thing to WASTE.

Hillary Clinton rules. She is intelligent, has HER OWN IDEAS, PLANS, & SOLUTIONS.

that other joke borrows his ideas from her and tries to pass them off as his own (with a little help from a slavish media). he has never had an original idea which makes me wonder if he has ever HAD an idea.

No voting record, no thing to claim as an accomplishment (oh, except community organizing which he drags out and beats like a dead horse whenever asked what he has actually DONE). Wow--community organizing?! If THAT is the standard of accomplishment required for a president, maybe our local neighborhood watch guy should be runniing homeland security and the Girl Scout cookie Sellers can be his economic advisors.
Vote for obama and RUIN America!

The Truth about Obama Want to know just how bad Obama is getting treated with Kid gloves by US press...check out finally breaking stories from The London Times Article about his involvment with moneis from jailed slum lord and soon to be Gov. of Illinois...the story even gets better in the Chicago Tribune Article about stealing for the Illinois Teacher's Retirement Fund and money ending up in Obama's campaign fund.

"Mansion on the Hill" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece and

"Corruption trial likely to include mention of Obama", Ill governor. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-fundraisertrial,0,5780031.story

Slum lord is apparently making deals and singing songs, personally I think having a nominee that ends up in jail before Nov. might not be good for the party!

Wow Hillary whines and television comes thru for her again. The whining won't help her as President, but it did get her a New Hampshire win and a SNL skit.

The Obama character was limited to a vocabulary of ten words and presented as unqualifed and not to briight.
Subliminal racism

The one Black cast member was limited to the racist stereotype role of a big fat dumb Black guy, except
when he put on a dress, then he played racist stereotype role of the big fat dumb black woman.

Marlon Brando was right about the stereotypes those who control most of the media love to project.

You might be an idiot if you think Hillary's constant referenced to experience can trump someone else's, ie, McCain, with more experience. The fact that she has make her campaign about experience, she can't win against someone with more experience. It is simply illogical.

A Barrack/McCain general contest will highlight more of a contrast between the parties and allow the public to choose between the ole establishment or change, not between two evils. Democrats went into this wanting to find someone who can withstand the Republicans. Hillary is not the best choice.

I supported Hilary initially. The media made me believe that she was the only viable choice. The preped her and sold the Clintonian package. then something different appeared, and it resonated with why I and so many others love this country. Like Hilary, her supporters now are whinning about the media.

Seems like the Hillary proponents are forgetting a very important factor in this election: the right wing republican machine that she has rejected and denounced so many times. They are angry, and she will not be able to hold her own against them. They actually want her to win, they have said this many times (admittedly, i watch Fox news, amazing what you learn by watching the enemy). They know how to attack her, but they don't know how to attack Barak.


Please folks, wake up, this is not about voting for or against Hillary, this is about voting for the Candidate who can win the general election.

If you think 35 years of experience can make up for 35 years of negativity,

You Might Be an Idiot....

If you think any president within the last 30 years even balanced their own checkbook,never mind the National Economy.

You Might Be an Idiot...

If you think the best choice for a bipartisan Health Care Plan is someone who screams about conspiracies every other week, instead of just sitting down and talking to the other side rationally.

You Might Be an Idiot....

If you vote for someone who is better at getting us OUT of a war, rather than someone who won't get us in one in the first place. Especially when that vote lost the lives of nearly 4,000 US soldiers.

You Might Be an Idiot....

When you think someone's Husband was a great environmentalist, until that Uranium mine thing, and then you decide it doesn't matter, because now it's all about Hillary's record. Remember?

You Might Be an Idiot....

If you think "Columbia University, Harvard Law School" and "lecturer of Constitutional Law at University of Chicago" doesn't qualify as being educated enough.

You Might Be an Idiot....

If you think people have Experience through Osmosis, and that 8 years of scandal was the best the Americans ever had for a Presidency.

You Might Be an Idiot...

If you think that having 8 more years of bipartisan bickering and "conspiracy rants" is what this country needs. Especially since one of those "experienced politicians" already served 8 years in the White House and is legally prohibited from coming back.

SO! To sum...if you want to cling to the partisan past, and continue the bull**** streaming out of Congress every year...then by all means, Vote Billary.

But if you DON'T want to be an Idiot, you'll look beyond the gutter tactics, and think to yourself:

Which one of these candidates can walk into Congress, put forth a bill, and actually get enough people on board to pass it.

Who has the best chance of developing an overarching mandate.

Who has the best chance of gathering bright advisors from both sides of the aisle, as well as inspiring others who have not wanted to be tainted by Washington, in order to move this country forward.

Who has the ability to restore the protection of the Constitution back to our people, which we have lost these past 8 years.

Ask yourself these things before you vote.

Hillary Clinton will WIN Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Wyoming, Pennsylvania and many more states, including Puerto Rico, that have not yet voted.
Obama leads the delgate race with less than 100 and Hillary Clinton leads the Super Delegates by far more, as well as she still has a big heads up in Florida and Michigan, even if the DNC and Obama will not count their votes! Obama is not the front runner in this race and never has been. And it is CRAZY the way he has been named as such by the media, Obama and Obama supporters.
11 states does NOT equal 50 states! In America we all get to vote!
The fact is, Hillary Clinton stands a much better chance at being elected President than Obama. All historical date of General Elections makes this clear. It is Obama that should concede to Clinton.

This primary election is a lot like a presidential election this time around. The stakes are high and I'm glad all of the Hillary supporters are happy about this free advertising. Both weeks on SNL supported her and she wouldn't refer people to last week's debate if she didn't think it helped her case. She won't be considered the underdog unless maybe she's beat by 30pts in Texas and Ohio.

It is definitely troubling that there is such a divide between the democratic party. I wonder how many Hillary supporters would be lost in the general election if he gets the nomination and vice versa. Calling people supporting Obama, the cult or church of Obama, is not a good way to get these people behind Hillary.

She was great. Really naturally funny and relaxed. I feel good that things are finally turning her way. Go Hillary. I also am so damn impressed that she doesn't give up. I mean, c'mon, most people wouldn't have continued to fight like she did, with the media completely in the tank for Obama, with all of the so-called blogs hating her, etc., etc. That just shows me that this woman has grit. I think, the last few days, the momentum is with her.

"Hillary is a natural at thinking on her feet - and funny! Obama has to have his speeches written for him - or plagiarized! - and stumbles and bumbles his way through debates...even when they "softball" him. Hillary is the only candidate who can run this country. I want HER answering the phone in the White House this time next year! "

Amen.

VOTE HILLARY!!!

The more I hear people trashing her, the more I think she has a point. Actually, she has always had a point and it concerns me that so many people just HATE her. It could be the same people who flock to churches to be recognized as religious while hating their neighbor and everyone else.

What ever happened to examining a person's record and what they have done? Compare. I am really upset that the media has become such a biased outlet. while my original candidate withdrew (Richardson), I believe I will vote for Hillary (heck, I voted for John Kerry & Gore and he didn't win....or did he? Who knows with the manipulation of voting machines & supreme court interference.....who was it that said that whoever controls the courts, controls the vote?).

Either is better than McCain, but Hillary, I think is best. I hope they both go to the White House and work together...this country needs them.

Go Hillary. Bill was captivated with Gennifer Flowers' beauty and took advantage of Monica Lewinsky's availability "on" the White House desk, and Mr. Clinton also probably finds Hillary sexually repulsive, but she has a wonderful sense of humor on SNL, and ... wait a minute, what was my point? Oh yeah, Hillary overcomes.

Just a few remarks about a few of the preceding comments. I am glad Hillary showed who she is. Don't you wish Obama would show who is? Mr. Donovan needs to take a chill pill. How can Obama walk into congress and get something passed, if he isn't there to vote? Where was he? I think you are an idiot if you vote for a silver tounged devil you know nothing about. Your an idiot if you think Clinton can't hold her own. Your an idiot, if you didn't see Obama defer to Clinton on the question about putin's replacement during the debate. Your an idiot if you didn't hear and see Obama at a loss about the Putin question. Your an idiot if you think Obama even knew who they were talking about. Your an idiot if you think our vote in November makes a difference, Your an idiot if you think it makes a big difference in who gets elected, and you are really an idiot to vote for someone that you know,nothing about except he is a new face.Please don:t be an IDIOT !

Jeanette - You didn't tell me why I should vote for someone who consistently BLATANTLY lies to me and the Americain people. You differed to other canidates and compared her. Again dodging the question. Tell me WHY I should vote for someone who lies to me for decades like this. I explicitly said do not make comparisions to other canidates, or why she is better then someone. Just flat out tell me why I should vote for Hillary Clinton when she has blatantly lied to me, and doesn't care that she does. Tell me that. That is my question.
Can you not understand how to answer a direct question when its asked to you Hillary, I mean Janette...now I would like a response from someone that doesn't compare her. Just tell me why I should vote for someone that's lied to my face for decades and that has enough evidence against her to put her in jail if she wasn't in a seat of power to prevent that from happening. Tell me why. I want to know why, and you can't tell me why. You can just spin it like she does to make it seem OK. Well you know what? It is not frieking OK. Goto jail Hillary, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars, just get the heck out of politics and behind bars right now. Thats what would happen in a real democracy, in a real country that didn't protect people in power. And I'm fed up that its not happening, and I have a right to be, and you all are allowed to be if you want to, or your all allowed to ignore it, as most seem to do.

Obama is transparent. You can see right through his B you know what.

And Hillary will WIN Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and keep right on WINNING!

TEXAS, OHIO, RHODE ISLAND, VERMONT...
VOTE HILLARY ON TUESDAY!!!

Donovan, needs to chill. Take a deep breath and relax.You will feel much better..

I feel perfectly fine overall. I however don't feel perfectly fine with what's going on in my country and in politics, and I don't need to just "chill". With all of us "chilling" we have just repeatedly turn blind eyes, and I'm not gonna do that Ms. Jeanette. I would still like an answer to the question you keep dodging without comparisions to the other canidate:

Why should I vote for someone who has not just lied, but blatantly lied to me for decades?

That was too funny.
Good impersontation of Tim Russert

On a serious note, here's a new endorsement for Obama
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4o166Eb_puo

A Must Read For Hillary.

Look at the horrible crap that this Obama website is saying about Mrs. Clinton. She should be made aware of this as soon as possible before the campaign falls off the cliff because of the rotten lies on this blog called http://www.matrix-evolutions.com. It starts with:

The Revolutionary Party endorses Barack Obama as the next president of the United States.
This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Obama is not elected.

The Revolutionary Party derives its politics from an equation for evolution that has been accepted by science for the last eighty years and that we trust in as much as religious believers trust in God. Mathematics doesn’t lie. An analysis based on the equation indicates that the so-called war on terror will inexorably ratchet up to world war, a genuinely terrifying thought given a world heavily armed with nuclear weapons. For that reason we support Barack Obama as the only real anti-war candidate.

Hillary? In our opinion, she is the more all round competent candidate and has been upended by Obama to a great degree because he is trim and youthfully enthusiastic. But before Hillary came Bill, which should cause us to stop and think.

The value of our mathematics based analysis lies in its ability to objectively distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys. The technical aspects of the analysis make it slow reading for those without a science background, so we will give its conclusions first here and save the detailed reasoning for later.

Put simply, the Clintons are what is known in the political science textbooks as populists, those who achieve political success by playing to the people, to their needs and pains and wants. But there is a difference between patter and delivery. We are all familiar with artificial soda. The Clintons are like an artificial banana split, very likable, but with no real food value.

Recall President Clinton and his first lady. During their tenure America’s favorite political couple sang a song of health care delivery, but delivered rather on prison construction and on the number of police put on the streets. The Pew Report that came out the end of February said that one American in a hundred is locked up in a prison or jail. To put this into better perspective, the report said that America has 7 million people in jail or otherwise under the control of the penal system. This is 16 times more per capita than the communist People’s Republic of China, where, we are told, there is no freedom or human rights. Clinton legislature took America to the highest prison population in the world, a statistic historically associated with police states like Stalinist Russia and apartheid South Africa. This is not to say that America is a police state, of course, for if it were you’d have heard about it on the evening news.

Also notably absent in the media is another creation of the Clintons, the near million homeless people that wander the streets of Sacramento and Las Vegas and our other big cities. This sharp upsurge in homelessness came about inarguably as a result of Clinton legislature that ended LBJ’s war on poverty by terminating effective social protections for out of work people, something many more will become more familiar with as the stock market collapses from the cost of the war and the recession takes hold in full force.

What the Clintons did with prisons and police and welfare protection and NAFTA and failed to do with health care very much pleased the moneyed class and the conservatives. Our technical analysis objectively shows the Republican social and fiscal conservatives to be bad guys because their relationship to the working class and middle class is basically that of master to servant. This fact is also muted by populist politicians like the Clintons whose tax returns, were they to be made public, would show that they are members in good standing of the moneyed class too.

This deep secret of class control and abuse is also kept under wraps by the media, whose personalities are hired and controlled by the moneyed class. Other than the few raisins stirred into in the poison muffin of TV to make it seem fair, media people who don’t keep the secret of class control and the unhappiness of most of us that derives from it don’t last long on their jobs or are not hired to begin with.

The ones who do make the cut endlessly spout the lies of the so-called American Dream in one form or another. The power of the media to control people’s thoughts and actions in conformity with American ideology is difficult to assess for people who get their information primarily from the media, which is most people. This power of media to control thinking was dramatically illustrated towards the end of WWII in Germany just before the fall of Berlin as the Allied and Russian troops converged on the city. Most Germans even in those final moments still believed Hitler’s media propaganda that they were still winning the war.

In our own times, hidden by the media from public sight are facts about life readily observable even by doing something as simple as riding public transportation. Here the observer notes that the common people are unhappy, fear and personal failure showing clearly on their faces and in their behaviors. This effect of control and abuse in the workplace and at school is not made clear from TV where all the media personalities act through their endlessly smiling and bubbly days to show to the audience that America really is a happy place, the steady stream of mass murders in schools, workplaces and malls not able to be kept out of the news notwithstanding.

And much as the ugly facts of our present existence are air brushed out in the media, so also is the future we realistically face. Not made clear is that the dollar is fast becoming as worthless as the paper it is printed on to keep the war going. Or that the stock market and the housing market will soon halve their value giving those who have been spared homelessness and jail to date a taste of these hells on earth firsthand. The Clintons will not care because they are a part of the apparatus that brought us to where we are at in America today.

Hillary should be given credit for being an ambitious and a profoundly adept social climber and a very talented actress, our American Evita. We have no problem applauding her for her personal successes. But she is never going to go against the wishes of the money class that created her and Bill and supported these two as their adorable political puppets. She will not stop this war.

Yes, she says she will, despite her voting for the war. And, of course, there are those of you that think that Hillary would never lie to us. But Bill said he would never lie to us, too. And he said it so well that I yet don’t believe he lied to us about Monica. Monica who? She never existed. That is how good an actor Bill is. And this suggests that his mate is no less of a self-serving liar.

Of course, transgressions are relative. Yes, the flag pin wearing conservatives are more disgusting than the Clintons. Who of us is not totally revulsed by the smell of a public rest room emanating from the Bible squeezing, boy hustling conservative senator from Idaho caught with his pants down? Nobody has caught Bill at something that viscerally gross yet. Still, what character is there in a first family when the head of the most powerful nation on earth sticks a penile object, not even his own, up some college kid’s vagina? If the Clinton presidency were a movie, they would not be playing the Star Spangled Banner in the background during that particular scene.

And to be completely and totally unkind – and very logical -- doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Really, does any intelligent female over the age of 22 think that Hillary actually felt bad about Bill and Monica? Judging from the observable obvious that Bill is no more than Hillary’s showboat, the best educated guess is that is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s girlfriends surfacing soon to clarify Hillary’s preference as to penile object.

The smiling Clintons are so phony and so odd in this area that one would not be surprised to find that the unconfident Chelsea Clinton developed as such as a result of some form of child abuse. Chelsea does not look happy. Neglect by the Clintons is hardly to be overlooked as this ambitious pair had better things to pay attention to in their furious political rise to the top than their daughter. And sexual abuse is not to be totally ruled out either given Bill’s sexual tastes.

The best bet to end the war and end our American style police state is to vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is sufficiently self-serving and devious that one would not be surprised to see her team up with Huckabee on a national reconciliation ticket to satisfy her political ambition. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by the ruling class by assassination or some such stratagem. But if so, and we dearly hope not, the Revolutionary Party is ready to offer a sensible replacement candidate. If enough people get in touch to say they are interested, I did run for President in 2000 as a write-in candidate and would consider it again. But only in the event that Obama is derailed by the conservatives, which we very much fear because these people would do anything to retain power....

Please quick tell somebody on Hillary’s campaign staff what is going on with these trashy Obama sites.
Martha Turner

LOL! Tell her there are people that know the truth? I think Hillary and her campaign staff are quite aware of those sites, and those truths. That's why her tactics are just to "throw the kitchen sink". If she keeps the media busy we will never get down to the dirty and ugly facts of who the Clinton's really are. Obama's campaign doesn't touch on the real truths of the Clinton's because they know they will lose that battle in the media. It is amazing he has gone so far already. Unfortunately, the Obama camp has to walk the tight rope of not exposing Hillary for who she really is. Thousands have tried, and they lose. Unfortunately, the Clinton's are too good at this game. They will trick the Americain people again and get voted back into power it seems.

For all the women that voted for Obama, there could only be ten reasons:
1. You think he's a brother
2. Because you are a follower
3. Your baby daddy voted for him
4. He sounds smart
5. Lakeisha n'em think he's cute
6. He look like your baby daddy
7. You was hye from a brut you smoked in the car before you went to the polls.
8. Uneducated
9. You are a whore and think you are going to get a piece of him.
10.You think you going to party at the white house.

Get real ! he's not going to win! D-U-M-M-I-E!

SNL has profiled Hillary Clinton in a favorable manner on their last three shows. Obviously SNL is using their show to campaign and applaud their favorite candidate, I find that fact to be very obvious and truly offensive.

I thought the first skit was cute, the second one however, which was shown just prior to the Texas/Ohio primaries was a blatant push for Clinton and your public support of her as your choice for the presidential candidate was very obvious and unfair.

The third program which was a take off of the "3:00 a.m. phone call" was very, very offensive. SNL made it clear to the viewing audience that they agreed with what the Clinton campaign continually says about Obama having a "lack of experience" by airing such a disgusting skit and I suggest that the SNL writers extend a sincere PUBLIC apology to Barack Obama at their earliest opportunity.

By the way, this is not just my opinion; this farce has been a topic of conversation with a number of my college and university friends who have been viewing your show for a number of years... what a complete turn off!

Post a comment
If you are under 13 years of age you may read this message board, but you may not participate.
Here are the full legal terms you agree to by using this comment form.

Comments are moderated, and will not appear until they've been approved.

If you have a TypeKey or TypePad account, please Sign In







Our Bloggers

Don FrederickDon Frederick has served as an editor helping guide coverage of every presidential election since 1984. He is a third-generation Washingtonian, so watching the political world comes naturally to him.

A graduate of Northwestern University, he was a reporter for newspapers in Colorado, New Mexico and Texas before joining the (now-defunct) Los Angeles Herald Examiner in 1983. Hired by The Times in 1989, he has worked in its Washington bureau since 1996 — a perch providing him a close-up view of the impeachment of President Clinton, the government's response to 9/11 and the day-to-day wrangling of the two major parties.
Andrew MalcolmAndrew Malcolm's immigrant parents repeatedly stressed the importance of active participation in a democracy. Early lessons included learning the alphabetical list of states by watching televised roll calls of national political conventions. That childhood exposure led to a lifelong fascination with politics, including 40-plus years of covering them and a brief stint practicing them as press secretary to Laura Bush in 1999-2000.

A veteran foreign and national correspondent, Malcolm served on the Times Editorial Board and was a Pulitzer finalist in 2004. He is the author of 10 nonfiction books and father of four.

All LA Times Blogs

All The Rage
All Things Trojan
Babylon & Beyond
Bit Player
Blue Notes - Dodgers
Booster Shots
Bottleneck
Daily Dish
Daily Mirror
Daily Travel & Deal Blog
Dish Rag
Emerald City
Extended Play
Funny Pages 2.0
Gold Derby
Homeroom
Homicide Report
Jacket Copy
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Blog
L.A. Land
L.A. Now
L.A. Unleashed
La Plaza
Lakers
Money & Co.
Movable Buffet
Opinion L.A.
Pardon Our Dust
Readers' Representative Journal
Show Tracker
Soundboard
Top of the Ticket
Up to Speed
Varsity Times Insider
Web Scout
What's Bruin