Breaking News: Hillary Clinton hints at joint ticket with Obama

Sen. Hillary Clinton, who some wrote off as all but finished in the race for the Democratic nomination for president, has pulled another surprise out of the hat that we never see her wearing.

The morning after regaining some political momentum by winning three of four primaries (after losing 12 in a row), the former first lady happened to mention on some early news shows the possibility of her and Sen. Barack Obama forming a joint ticket to face the new Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain.

With most political observers sound asleep after a long Tuesday evening that appeared to augur at least seven more weeks of possibly bitter and divisive struggle between the two Democrats until a potentially decisive Pennsylvania primary on April 22, Clinton went on some morning news programs, according to the Associated Press, and appeared to raise the possibility of a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket.

"That may be where this is headed," she said, "but, of course, we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

It's a clever move to vault herself to the level of equal standing with the Illinois senator, who remains way more than 100 delegates ahead of Clinton in the nomination race. The idea does speak to what many Democrats have long regarded as a dream ticket combining the first serious African American candidate with the first serious female candidate.

And it raises the prospect of a negotiated agreement that would avoid prolonged intra-party strife, while a victorious McCain forges ahead already with his general election campaign.

In the early-morning hours, two top Clinton advisors, Mark Penn and Harold Ickes, released a memo to "Interested Parties," that said: "With last night’s victories in Ohio and Texas, one thing is clear: the momentum has swung back to Hillary Clinton." At least that's what they'd like today's message to be as McCain meets at the White House for lunch and the official blessing of President and Mrs. Bush.

But the joint ticket idea ...

may be more of a nightmare in the mind of Obama and his team, who thought they were about to finish Clinton off Tuesday only to see it slip through their hands and the struggle prolonged.

And Obama remains well ahead in delegates and popular votes, so he'd be unlikely to be interested in such a combination arrangement now, especially if she sees herself in the No. 1 spot with Obama as the No. 2. The proposal could well be an attempt to stall his momentum further.

Later, on the same CBS "Early Show," Obama referred to his delegate total as "close to an insurmountable lead." Clinton had minimized the gap calling it "smidgens of difference."

Plus, to be realistic, whomever is the Democratic vice president on any successful ticket led by the New York senator will actually be forced to work with a pair of Clintons in the White House, making him potentially vice-vice-president.

-- Andrew Malcolm

PHOTO CREDIT: <i>Barbara Davidson / Los Angeles Times</i>

Comments

[East Side Love]

Hillary Clinton had a big night - sobering up Obamas supporters. After outspending her 2 to 1 in both states he have a clear victor. Yet leave it to the LA Times to downplay the victory.

A Clinton-Obama ticket would solve this democratic party spat.

[tony]

poor obama - the "insurmountable" thing is just drivel. we have to do something with florida and michigan...revote idea is floating around. and sorry - but if it comes down to a handful of delegates , this wont matter. no one is getting to 2025. so something will have to be negotiated.

[Armyvet]

Obama is still ahead by about 90 delegates. There is still a chance for other states to make a difference, but I think Obama will have the delegates at the convention. But, I further think McCain will beat either candidate. Do your own math and do your own delegate count. I think Hillary is too far behind to win the nomination. And, I'm sure the voters in November will want McCain answering the phone instead of Hillary or Barack.

[Irishspacemonk]

This is her only chance of getting on the ticket...hinting that you can get both, so elect me first. It's a tactic she's used in the past and it won't work. Obama had very little chance in the two states, Ohio and Texas, and in some ways the story should be how much he gained back in both states, especially a state like Texas with its historically racists past - look at the map of Hillary wins - all rural, red neck country.

[True Dem]

"And Obama remains well ahead in delegates and popular votes..."

I don't think this assesment is correct.
According to the independent website 'thegreenpapers.com" Clinton leads in the popular vote.

[Ericka]

Obama still has more popular votes and pledged delegates.

A Obama-Clinton ticket seems more likely in the end.

[Sharon]

I'm sorry, but Obama should pay attention to what happened to Gore, who had all the best ideas, when he was relegated to VP. Hillary herself says she had more policy responsibilities during that time. Billary will rule together as king and queen, and VP will be the first lady. Obama should not take VP. After all this campaign stuff lately, I will not vote for Hillary, who learned a little too much from Rove.

[Jay4Obama]

Hillary is just saying that to try to trick people into giving her their vote - cos they think Obama will be part of the deal. Fact is - Hillary has burnt so many bridges she wouldn't have a hope of winning in November. Obama being on her ticket would make no difference, just drag him down with her. He would simply be being used to try and bring the youth, African American and Independent vote into her court. Being VP with Bill Clinton around would be hell. To me that is just yuck - for her to abuse him as she has and then try and co-opt what he has created for her own benefit. No no no no no.

[Josh]

Why does everyone refer to Obama as African-American? He is biracial. Am I missing something?

[Kenneth]

Obama should not be expected to win all of the States. He won 11 in a row. Hillary had to wait around for some favorble states to come up on the calendar to win a few. And, what is this talk about negotiating at the convention. Shouldn't the candidate with the most delegates just be the winner? Sounds like the Hillary supporters are gearing up to try to steal the nomination rather than just winning it outright.

[Lisa Baker]

A Clinton-Obama ticket would result in a landslide victory against the GOP and really, really help in all state races for Senate and Congress and State Governors too. It would be such a no-brainer, that as candidates, they could help with the other tight democratic races instead of just focuing on their own presidential elections. So many Republicans are retiring, and if 'our side' would logically support a Clinton-Obama ticket, then we could have a filibuster proof majority.
Why scoff at 35 years of experience? Obama could still be VP and then President! And women and African American's BOTH get their 'historic' moment. And all democrats can get behind this ticket. (Obama in 2016!!! for President!!),.

[Jack Head]

Go Hillary! It is amazing, historical and exactely what this country needs. She can stand up and do the hard job of fixing some of the horrible problems created by the Bush Admin. She can reach the republicans, as her voting record in the senate as shown. And, for me, she is a strong advocate for not only people but for animals, a cause close to my heart. Check out her voting record on the HSUS's website. Or "Google" voting record clinton obama. Hillary was 100 +, Obama 60, McCain 40%. It tells you which were sponsored, written, etc.
Thanks Hillary! Go all the way. Obama would make a good VP.

[dan]

Obama outspent Clinton just to lose these big states. When will he learn it's bad business and bad judgement.

[Nick B]

A Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket would be a disaster. Both would be fighting for the top spot the entire time. Plus, they are both too similar on the major issues such as health care and immigration reform. The VP, whoever it is, should balance them out a little more. There are some great Democrat governors that would be a much better VP than either of the two going for President.

[Jay4Obama]

What has been divinely earned by Clinton shall be her reward. The houses she burnt, the people she slashed, the character she has shown to so many more now in disgust with her than when she started.

She earned that by her actions. Nothing can save her from it. She can work now to destroy the most promising Democratic candidate to have emerged in generations but all she is doing is burning down and dividing the democratic house. She will not be elected president - not because she is a woman - but because of how she conducts herself.

[John doe]

"""It's a clever move to vault herself to the level of equal standing with the Illinois senator, who remains way more than 100 delegates ahead of Clinton in the nomination race"""

get your #'s straight LAtimes.

She's down by 86, and as statistically sound/reputable polls concluded she would win TX/OH/RI, they are also concluding she'll win the remaining big delegate states which will put her out on top, by 30-40 delegates in the end, then couple that with super delegate's, she has the nomination secured/locked down.

[Duane]

Do the right thing for the country and the people who have worked hard for both of the these trail blazers. A joint ticket is the way to change the direction of the United States in the manner the people desire and to dislodge the Republican hegemony.

[DenisR]

Obama would be very stupid to be Hillary's VP! He would be reporting to BIll! He would be finished.

[wait a minute]

I'm a life long democrat (center) but if it is an Obama/Clinton ticket, no way will I vote democratic. He is not qualified to lead this country. I love Hillary, but that is just unnaceptable. She is clearly the better candidate and anything less than her as President is a concession to bigotry and bias that has been so prevalent in the media and among certain voters. If on the other hand, it is Clinton/Obama then yes, that gets my vote, although he still hasn't shown me why he's even qualified for VP.

[Luis]

Just because the media can spin this back as a momentum in her court, it does not warrant the credibility of putting forth a Clinton nomination with Obama as vice-president--in fact, we couldn't be farther from reality. The issue remains that Clinton failed to pull the huge victories that she needed to get back in the lead, and now we're back to square (3 weeks ago): they have both won, and lost, and Clinton is now playing catch up. An Obama Clinton ticket is more likely but still a nightmare, per the last part of this article. Going to the Convention, however, only guarantees one thing: McCain. So Obama may be forced to over her VP post.

[Doug Edelman]

Think Hillary will thank the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" for rescuing her campaign? Seeing her as the weaker candidate, and hoping to prolong the battle in the Democratic Party... many Republicans in TX and OH chose to accept McCain's inevitability without their help - and instead cross over and vote for Hillary.

Think you'll see that reported in the Mainstream Press?

[RicRoe]

Knowing that she may not win the nomination despite her apparent victories in Tuesday's primaries, Clinton's statements show why so many voters do not support her, and why so many former supporters have turned away.

Her blind ambition knows no bounds, her arrogance knows no limits.

She still trails in the all important delegate count, yet she is trying to install herself as the Democratic Party's nominee despite her obvious lack of support.

Notice Clinton's comments do not suggest that she should be his choice for Vice President, but rather she is attempting to claim by statement that she is once again the presumptive nominee by mildly offering Obama the slot as her VP.

This arrogance is the reason so many Democrats across the country do not support Clinton.

This arrogance is why so many Democrats say that they will vote for MCCain if Clinton wins the nomination.

This blind ambition is bad for Democrats and worse still for America.

Remember what so many Democrats are saying, voting is as simple as
A-B-C..... Anyone But Clinton.

[Raffi Kojian]

LA times downplaying Clintons victory? They didn't even mention how huge a gap Obama closed with Clinton in just two weeks. Yes he outspent her, and he maintained his 100 delegate lead when a couple of weeks ago it was forecast to disappear.

That's the Obama victory that the LA Times and the rest of the media don't seem to be telling, apparently out of fear of being called biased because of all of your and Hillary's complaints. Well, I guess if whining is working for the Hillary camp, go with it.

[RCG]

Obama has overcome a 20 point Clinton lead in Texas. He is the insurgent running against "The Clintons" with this in mind he has done damn good. Obama still leads in the popular vote and delegates. Hillary's success is connected in a large part to Bill, in contrast Obama is a self-made man who is running on his own merits and NOT connected to a former president. He has earned great respect within the Democratic party and Republican party because he is a outsiderwho had the audacity to challange status quo- the Clinton political family. He has my vote.

[Cliff]

The only reason Clinton won Ohio is because it is a republican state and they know McCain can beat Hillary but not Obama. Republican came in droves to vote for Hillary.

[Anna Hamilton]

The Clinton-Obama OR Obama-Clinton ticket IS our key.
Especially with a influence (hopefully less this time) of Mr. Nader who seems to love splitting the democratic vote. (Do the Republicans PAY this guy or what?)
The dual Demo-Ticket is a definite vote for change and progress in a country which sorely needs new leadership. Go, Dems!!

[Lance Stephens]

Sorry, Andrew Malcolm, 86 is not "way more than 100 delegates."

[Concerned]

the thrill is gone. move over obama and let history take its course. don't be a selfish person, step aside NOW.

No one who voted for Hillary in FL or MI will vote for obama, if he is appointed by the party as the candidate without considering the voters of these states.

[mateo]

this Wicked Witch of "nowhere-in-particular" will turn me into a strong McCain supporter if her little smear campaign against Barack Obama proves ultimately successful at the convention for her and her machine.
and i'm NOT the only one who's saying/thinking this...

[Mr. Unite Us]

It's going to take Obama and Clinton supporters to win the election.

This week it was Obama vs. Clinton, Clinton, McCain,
Bush, the media,talk radio, Canada, and Saturday Night Live.

Look for Clinton to have to answer some questions.

[Karin P]

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! The guy only offers speeches, the guy will need "on the job training." The guy offers words, not solutions. But the guy can be on my ticket. Yeah, sure, if something were to happen, he would be completely unprepared to deal with it; but don't worry, nothing will happen. If Obama joins up with this hypocrite, this absolute disgrace, I am definitely going with Nader.

[Concerned in Ky]

A Clinton/Obama ticket would solve the almost insurmountable division within the Democratic party.

Obama is probably too proud and narcisstic to agree to the number 2 slot.

I'm voting for Clinton or McCain but never Obama.

[Pat]

I would love to have a female president or a black president. Either would prove that old stereotypes are passe, old white guys no longer had a stranglehold on politics, and real change can happen. However, this particular woman would never be my choice. She absolutely will not reach across party lines or build coalitions, she's inextricably entwined with the military industrial complex, and is simply not inspiring. I voted for Bill, twice, but it would be incredibly hard to vote for Hillary. As I could not vote for McCain, I would most likely not vote. People have become fond of saying "We have two great potential candidates", but I don't see it. We have one very articulate, cool-headed, intelligent, and inspiring candidate, and one opportunistic, mean-spirited, negative player with ENORMOUS baggage. Who really thinks that Clinton can beat McCain? She will mobilize the right-wing like nothing else could, plus disenfranchising many moderates like myself who see through the Clinton modus and want no part of it. I will still hope for the best, but it's sad to see that once again the attention span-challenged of the nation could lead us into darkness once more.

[DAVID A. BELANGER,VET]

IF OBAMA HAS ANY BALLS HE WOULD COME OUT AGAINST THIS IN A BIG WAY..
HE SHOULD COME OUT AND SAY SHE IS IN OZ IF SHE THINK I WOULD CHOSE HER.
HE NEEDS TO COME OUT AND SAY TO AMERICA IF YOU WANT BUSH 2 (MCCAIN) IN OFFICE THEN HAVEING CLINTON ON ANY TICKET WOULD DO THAT.
THATS WHY I CHOSE JOHN EDWARDS AS MY V.P.

THEN SHE WOULD LOSE ALL THE REMAINING STATES BY TRIPPLE DIGGET...
REMEMBER THE REPS WANT CLINTON BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BEAT HER IN A NATIONAL VOTE. I WOULD AND MANY OTHER IND/DEMS WOULD VOTE MCAIN INSTEAD OF HAVEING HER IN ANY PART OF THE WHITEHOUSE.

[Shade]

Why can't it be the other way around with Obama-Clinton Ticket? I guarantee if it was the other way around, she would reject the idea. I hope that Obama would have enough dignity to do the same.

[Stephen Pizzo]

The problem with Obama being Hillary's VP .. or for that matter any serious Democrat taking that post -- is that they would not be the VP in fact... Bill would be the de-facto VP. I can't imagine anyone with real credentials for the second spot putting up with a situation like that.

[fjfjdvdv]

No way. Can you imagine them campaigning this fall? Her campaign is based on attacks -- typically untruthful ones -- and manipulating the voters with tears and tirades. His is about presenting concrete policies and a vision for the future of this country. You might as well ask cats and dogs to campaign together, or fire and ice.

Besides, based on her recent comments about how McCain is ready to be president and Obama is not, I kind of figured she wanted to be running as his VP. First time I've heard a democrat rustling up votes for the republican nominee.

And finally, her bit about how she should be president and Obama should be VP because "the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me." Please. Does she realize that she's not running for president of Ohio? The people of MOST states have said that Obama should be president. Oh, wait a minute -- those states don't count because HIllary didn't win there...

Stop the drama, vote Obama.

[matt]

After listening to what either of them want to do with this country and studying the issues facing this great nation, I am voting Republican for the first time. These two are power-hungry nuts and will lie and lie and lie. Obama with Rezko and Canada and Clinton with bout every other word out of her mouth.

[Matt]

If Obama isn't number one on the ticket.... I'll write him in.

Hilliary ...Never.

[Sandra]

I still firmly believe in what we're building here, as do we all, and I think we can make a shift change that is not destructive, but furthers the cause of truth in politics.

Backed by Truth, Fronted By Obama

Though I respect the decision to 'not do nasty' on the part of Obama's campaign, it's not going to work. Clinton's map to the WH is routed via FLA, MI or intimidating SDs. This is not about getting nasty or attacking. It's about shining the light on Senator Clinton's own realties. This can be done with candor and eloquence because we are backed by truth, and fronted by Obama.

A new strategy has to be demanded by us, the supporters, so that Senator Obama will be pushed by his base, into action.
I'd like to begin an online petition of Obama supporters that addresses our wishes for 'our campaign'.
1st key points of this work in progress:
1. That we not get nasty, but that we answer negative attacks quickly and firmly.
2. That we call upon our surrogates, as Clinton does, to bring up things that are more than murky in Senator Clinton's camp. I.E., Bill's very interesting Dubai dealings, the Senator's own questionable campaign fund raising history scandals.
3. Debunking the media bias lie toward Obama. Clinton was the inevitable, the media darling for over a year. All it took was her complaining about a couple of positive weeks for Senator Obama, and the media now falls all over itself to repeat all her talking points.
4. Shed light on the obvious fact that Senator Clinton could not care less about the party and the country she decries to love. If she did, she would not imply that the Republican nominee would be better suited for the WH, she would not say that "as far as she knows he is not a Muslim", and certainly would not consistently suggest that all people and/or states that did not vote for her were insipid and inconsequential.
5. The voters must demand that she release the tax returns. This needs to be truly brought to bear. She is obviously hiding something, and we deserve to know BEFORE it's too late to diffuse a ticking bomb awaiting us in the general.
6. Release the WH papers. What DID she actually do during her tenure as First Lady?
7. Please confront her with the 35 years nonsense. Senator Obama has a longer legislative history than Senator Clinton. That is a fact not receiving enough attn.
8. What actual crisis has Senator Clinton diverted? How was this accomplished without proper security clearance?

If you're also interested in helping me formulate this petition, join me here:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/ipetition4Barack

[Tom J]

Hillary IS Tracy Flick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_(1999_film)

[Shami]

Hillary should call up Obama and express her interest in becoming his VP.

[takingmyballandgoinghome]

Really i must say i am amazed at the Democratic party and the obvious lack of leadership in this party. You would think after the last 2 elections that someone in a leadership position would actually be controlling the overall Dem party strategy and attacking the increasingly negative part of this campaign. It seems like the Democrat leadership seem to have forgotten that they actually have a big task ahead and instead seem to be celebrating a victory that seems far from certain. Hillary should obviously be allowed to campaign for as long as she wants but the focus should be on issues of substance that raise the overall party message/profile not pull it down. I now understand why Dems have been so ineffective as a unit for so long and why they have so little to show for in the last 8 years. Really I dont think i can vote for a party this disturbed and disorganized. And really if the argument is that this is politics then im really not sure how it works in my best interest. Just looking at this drama I finally understand why this party has been such a irrelevant part of the story for the last 8 years despite such a president with a low approval rating.

[anomoymous]

I hope that Obama turns down the VP slot since Hilllary can't honor prior agreements with the DNC that she agreed to in regards to Florida and Michigan, her integrity is very questionable. He should take the low road continuing to build his grass roots during the McCain administration and run in 2012.

[Independent]

I disagree with LA Times' comment re: a vice-vice-presidency. As we've seen over the last 8 years, the vice-presidency appears to be a role that is wide-open to whatever the incumbent of that position wants to make of it. Cheney's particular interpretation of the role, which has rendered the VP comparatively free of Congressional oversight and media scrutiny, has established a precedence which should be the envy of any Democratic vice-presidential candidate eager to build his/her own excess of power. (Hmmm...Interesting how that last brings to mind the ol' "axis of evil").

[Independent]

I disagree with LA Times' comment re: a vice-vice-presidency. As we've seen over the last 8 years, the vice-presidency appears to be a role that is wide-open to whatever the incumbent of that position wants to make of it. Cheney's particular interpretation of the role, which has rendered the VP comparatively free of Congressional oversight and media scrutiny, has established a precedence which should be the envy of any Democratic vice-presidential candidate eager to build his/her own excess of power. (Hmmm...Interesting how that last brings to mind the ol' "axis of evil").

[Edrea Davis]

Hillary Clinton was projected to win these states by a much higher margin so the momentum is still with Barack Obama. Obama put a huge dent in the lead. If the momentum really changed, the projections for MS and WY would change.

In order to cling to the lead Sen. Clinton appeared more like President Bush each day. She cried, whined, pitched a fit, attacked Obama personally, and finally lodged an all out fear campaign. If that's not Bush, I don't know what is. Additionally, we can't underestimate the power of Rush Limbaugh calling for Republicans to vote for Clinton because they know she cannot win against McCain - especially with the fear/experience message. Clinton will never win back African American voters, which is an important voting block for Democrats. Finally, there’s nothing like manipulating polls to get people out to vote.

BTW, Clinton argues that you must win Ohio to become President as if she won Ohio. That's in the general election with the old-school map that existed pre-Obama. With the increase in voters across the country, clearly no traditional Republican states may not remain Republican.

[Sean]

The facts are simple. Just a few weeks ago, Hillary was WAY ahead in the polls in both Ohio and Texas, after 2 weeks of her typical, divisive politics, and an enormous amount of money spent by both candidates, she lost substantial ground in Ohio, and barely won the Primary in Texas, and it appears she lost the texas Caucaus. So explain to me please, how this shows her gaining momentum? She has lost ground in both states in the last 2 weeks, not gained ground. Ignore the spin and look at where the real momentum lies.

[michelle M]

I am deeply disturbed with Hilary Clinton's negative and disgusting tactics to win the nomination. I always said if either one wins the nomination I would vote for either one but this time I may abstain from voting.
My vote for Obama is now more than ever something that I believe in, sorry Clinton I have nothing of what you called buyer remorse.
Your whole negative speech "meet me in Ohio" or nasty tactics on race, involving Canada, and many other disturbing tactics to draw sympathy to you is unbecoming.

How about time to show us your tax returns, talk about the many scandals Whitewater, Vincent Foster, and many others!

[Sean]

The facts are simple. Just a few weeks ago, Hillary was WAY ahead in the polls in both Ohio and Texas, after 2 weeks of her typical, divisive politics, and an enormous amount of money spent by both candidates, she lost substantial ground in Ohio, and barely won the Primary in Texas, and it appears she lost the texas Caucaus. So explain to me please, how this shows her gaining momentum? She has lost ground in both states in the last 2 weeks, not gained ground. Ignore the spin and look at where the real momentum lies.

[Ann]

Insurmountable delegate lead? You've got to be kidding. I'm so sick of the media focusing on Bill instead of Hillary. Get over it already. And wouldn't it nice if you learned to count. The media talks momentum until it shifts and then they talk about delegate count. Can you be more biased?

I'm for a combined ticket.

(Virtually insurmountable lead was a self-serving Obama quote. not the media. FYI.

[Eugene Mouton]

"Plus, to be realistic, whomever is the Democratic vice president on any successful ticket lead by the New York senator will actually be forced to work with a pair of Clintons in the White House, making him potentially vice-vice-president."

Really??!! I consider this remark as absoluetly absurd and utterly biased! Give the lady a chance, she said Bill would not be in the forefront and I trust her, she is a lady of integrity.

Stop punishing her for some mistakes Bill made (in an otherwise superb presidency) and allow her to be a good president!!

[Bishop Brown]

This is American politic's at it's best. If Hillary or Barack join forces. There is no way John McCain could win the White House. Hillary and Barack must think of the party never mind making history. Who ever wins history has alrady been made!

[electress]

The democratic party has been testing this country and its' voters with new rules, and changes, that contribute
to the mess we find ourselves in.
Why can't we have one national primary, and a month
later vote in national election. What is all this about
superdelegates making decisions for voters, get rid of it.
Also, the idea that if you win all the larger states, you still can loose the delegates. I haven't seen the "one vote"
for so many years, but I think we need to bring that back.
I didn't like it when Al Gore won, but lost!
Let's get down to the level of one vote counts.

Obama's money did not do what it was expected to do!
Hillary's has solutions, and the economy is the number
one issue, next to health care.

The Obama camp, nor the media will shut her down,
the voices of Americans will be heard, this is after all
a democracy, eveyone gets to participate.
It is the assertive woman, the woman who has the solutions, who we support.

[Sophia]

Sorry Barack, but if you're on a ticket with Hillary - I can't vote for you. I'll just be staying home.

[Donna1000]

Sen. Obama's caucus wins are not legitimate. I live in a caucus state and I was appalled by the behavior of Obama supporters. They deliberately filled the hall early, locked out Clinton supporters, and miscounted the ballots in favor of Sen. Obama. A recount awarded Sen. Clinton delegates. Thus, I don't believe that Sen. Obama has "won" the popular vote. I think that Sen. Obama has taken Chicago ward political tactics across the country into the caucus states and that the MSM has totally missed the story.

Pragmatically, I want to see an analysis of which candidate, Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama, is most likely to win the blue and purple states. That person should be the Democratic Party's nominee. That is the only way a Democratic will be in the White House on January 20, 2009.

[Fred App]

I'm confused. She wins two elections (Texas doesn't count; Obama comes out of there with more delegates), and suddenly know she should be at the top of the ticket? Because that 's what the people of Ohio want? The logic escapes me.

So Obama wins 11 elections in a row, and it doesn't count because he was expected to win them. She wins two, and they count more than the previous 11, even though she, too, was expected to win them.

Can the Clintons really keep laying this crap on us with a straight face?

[Joe Parisi]

I have one request of you and your colleagues. Attribution.

When the status quo wakes up to the reality that non-interventionism must become US foreign policy.

When the status quo looks back and realizes The Fed damaged the dollar so badly that, when combined with the grotesque spending on welfare, warfare and entitlements in the McCain/Obama/Clinton administration, it produced an economy calamity in the 2010's so great, it was surpassed only by the great Depression in its severity.

Not smug, clever, comical attribution. When these things happen, it is your job to acclaim Dr. Paul as a visionary and admire his courage for saying unpopular things, not only in a presidential bid, but throughout his long career of public service. And finally, it is your job to lament your own fearfulness for not listening to the Ron Paul's, David Walker's and Michael Scheuerer's of the world. They certainly tried to make you listen.

- Joe Parisi

[Henry]

Barack Obama just can't seem to finish the job...At this point when the dynamics of the campaign change he has to adopt to it..this is where experience count most and unfortunately what we are seeing is just a plain naive and inexperienced politician...

[Adam]

Hillary Clinton keeps saying that no one has won the presidency without winning Ohio. How about FDR and JFK? Come on journalists do your job. These days you never seem to question these candidates spin by presenting them with the real facts. Hillary can simply keep repeating a lie like that until it becomes the truth.

[Don Slowik, NH]

A joint ticket? Let's see, Obama has more delegates, so he would be... VP? nice work Hillary. You're a piece.
And if the rules are changed for MI and FL halfway through this game, better revote NH too -see NH State Supreme Court opinion Akins vs Sec of state (google it).

[John]

I like the way the clintonians spin the results. Obama closed the gap from over 20 points lead for hillary in both states to just a couple points in Tx and 10 in OH. That is amazing. I think this is a win for OBAMA. He is still leading in delegates and there is no way she is going to catch up.

The next spin after loosing in delegates will be her usual unfair politics of changing the rules in the middle of the game and seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.

[soothsayer]

A BO/HC joint ticket would be a riot, literally. The race to the left is the undoing of the Democratic Party. At the end of the day when it is apparent that the Dem's only represent 20% of the population, and that they really do not stand for change but for a bigger government and continued pandering to extreme and loud minority opinion special interest groups Mccain would win in a land-slide.

[jac]

barak should jump all over this offer, 8 years OJT followed by 8 years in the oval office. great job hillary!

[cristine]

No offense, but you white males don't speak for me and it is now clear the media has an agenda and is no longer an objective outlet for news. Get some women and minorities on this blog and maybe I'll read.

[Tony A.]

It is a fact that many Democrats believe that a Hillary/Obama ticket is the right thing for our party and will provide the best chance for a win.
It has also been clear for most of us citizens/viewers/voters that the big media has been easy on Obama and hard on Hillary for whatever their reasons.
Clinton is a savvy politician that understands the electorate better than the LA Times etc...
Thank you Hillary for saying what needs to be said and for protecting Obama from himself - as an Obama candidacy will surely go down in a ball of Rezko/NAFTA-Gate/Chicago back room politics fire.

[c. perry]

A bad day for Hillary Haters, they will have to start all over again. All the talking heads, all the chattering class will be at a loss. How can those ignorant voters not fall for our beloved "feather merchant".
We are seeing a defeat of form by substance. Daily drivel about hope and undefined change grows old, slowly it seems.

[former democrat]

When this nomination is stolen by the clintons this voter will be going to the green party forever. Bill screwed us with his pig like behaviour, spurning Gore.

[urbanleftbehind]

Obama should do nothing of the sort, although I would help muscle out Harry Reid and offer Hillary senate majority leader.

[JON PRUITT]

LET'S FACE IT - NEITHER CLINTON, OBAMA, OR McCAIN WILL BE ANSWERING THE PHONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO REACH THE PRESIDENT ON THE PHONE?

[electxyz]

I will support such a ticket. Clinton first 8 years will be tough. Then we see bright light again. After 8 years, Obama a little over 50 with good experience then. It gurrentees he will have another 8 years. American makes history with both woman and African American to be presidents.

[Eliot]

Pretty interesting that her 20 point lead in Ohio and Texas was obliterated and drastically reduced. She was, essentially, the loser last night after not getting the BIG win she needed. And that comes from Bill Clinton himself.

The idea of Clinton on the ticket is laughable. She has no chance. She won 3 of the last FIFTEEN states.

I half expect her to ask Obama to drop out of the race next.

[Eliot]

Let's talk about real experience, and not just a speech from 2002!

Let's talk about Norman Hsus and sleazy fundraising, the various Clinton administration scandals from Travelgate to the Marc Rich pardon, the tax returns, Bill Clinton's Kazakh dealings, the hidden White House records.

Go Hill - oh wait... ouch

[David, Houston, TX]

Now Hillary equals the democrats version of Mike Huckabee and she tries to pull this crap? Look at the math people... if you can handle it. The chances are slim to none that Bill and Hillary could catch up in pledged delegates so the only chances of her winning are doing something that goes against democracy. DO THE MATH

[sherrie conner]

Not to minimize two incredibly competent people down to gender or race BUT this is an incredible time for our country-We are living through an important historical period where little girls and people of color will look up to see that ANYONE really could be president of these United States of America! That they would be "judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin" (to quote the great MLK). I disagree that McCain will win the general election even though I do think he's the most honorable and competent of the republicans. I think that I don't care whether its an obama-clinton or clinton-obama tick because Obama brings hope and change and Clinton brings experience and a promise of economic recovery (just look at the economy under Bill). AND...the VP will likely become P after a 2-term by the Dems! Lastly, how fantastik that our youth is becoming so excited and engaged! I just hope that the Dems are smart and allow the people to speak and yield instead of allowing "super-delegates" to trump their voice-that would be disappointing!

[joseph pierre]

East Side Love ,
You conveniently left out the fact that she was leading by 20+ points just 2 weeks ago and that Texas borders Arkansas.
Pathetic! it's still 27-14.
Good luck with that!

[joseph pierre]

tony,
How democratic is the democratic party to revisit and change rules every has agreed on just to please the Clintonites. There will be hell to if they do such stupid thing.

[Stol]

When it comes to the election Obama has shown that he can win the democratic vote in states that always vote republican, his wins in places like virginia and idahoe won't really make a difference because in a general election they will never go democratic. Hillary has shown she can win the big states and the important democratic states as well as swing states such as Ohio and Florida. Hillary is clearly the best candidate, a huge string of losses in states with tiny college votes and many with republican leanings makes no difference when we think of a general election.

[David, Houston, TX]

The only way a joint ticket would work is if Obama is on top. Otherwise he will have to be 3rd man due to Billy Clinton being the co-president. Does anyone else notice that if Hillary wins we will basically have a two-headed monarchy in America? Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, then whos next Laura or Jeb Bush, then Chelsea Clinton... and all this talk of democracy in America would just be a joke. Americans must be retarded these days....

[dream team]

Obama-Richardson would be my dream team.

[ole the realist]

When is the 35 years of experience thing going to be challenged? Seriously, if anyone believes that, they deserve that woman.

If the phone rang in 1998 at the White House, Hillary would have answered it then too. Problem was, Bill was somewhere else...

[Alan Browe]

Oddly enough I was talking about a dual ticket outcome the other day. I'm just surprised that Clinton is flipping up the card right now. Perhaps the calculation is that it will swing more votes to her, but it could backfire.

A combined ticket is of course very strong and could potentially overwhelm McCain with combined women, blacks, browns and the anti-war sentiment.

Democratic presidents have not been big on sharing executive power, however (nor have Reps with the exception of Bush/Cheney).

[smita]

Hilarious discussion between Hillary and obama. Must watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7150u9sfCo

[stevejames]

The insurmountable lead argument is BS. Neither has enough to win it. You don't win a marathon by getting to to mile 23 first, you've got to win it at mile 26.

[David, Houston, TX]

The only way a joint ticket would work is if Obama is on top. Otherwise he will have to be 3rd man due to Billy Clinton being the co-president. Does anyone else notice that if Hillary wins we will basically have a two-headed monarchy in America? Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, then whos next Laura or Jeb Bush, then Chelsea Clinton... and all this talk of democracy in America would just be a joke. Americans must be retarded these days....

[bob23]

Go Hillary! Everyone knows she is the best candidate. Some people don't like her because she is to aggressive or some other thing. Is is too much to ask for a competent person in the white house for a change?

[Leiske]

Wow. I can't believe that certain people would rather not vote Democrat than vote for a united ticket. Especially since there are very few fundamental differences between Clinton and Obama. I'd love to see that ticket and I'd be happy to vote for it, whoever was "on top". If you don't vote Democrat, you're voting for at least four more years of the massive FAIL Bush got us into.

[laj]

I watched the primaries last night and I have seen all of the debates including some of the boring republicans debates, I think we are in a sad state, sad because just like so many people had true blind faith in George Bush, some Hillary supporters seem to be the same way. I am not of the belief that the only thing that matters is getting a democrat into the white house regardless of what kind of person they are, with that being said, I am sure that if Hillary is the nominee because of the dirty republican tatics that she has been using that I will not under any circumstances vote for her. She has done nothing to prove to me that she will be a good president and leader, you can see this by her supporters who are hostile and republican like and some of them down out racist. She will never get the black vote which she can not win the general without it, she has alienated that group to the point of no return, they will never forget her behaivor, her lies, her twisting of the truth and her insults to any supporter that would vote for Obama, as in I know you are not going to foolish enough to vote for him. Poking at him and making fun of him because he has inspired the masses into action and has gotten people engaged. This is a disaster and Hillary should stop being so selfess and hungry for power, this is the bottom line for her not the american people, if it were true she would not be willing to tear apart the party so that she can win, if she were a great leader, she would lead by example and stop her supporters from being so hostile insulting and hateful, but it seems they get it from her, she can not bring the country together, she is already tearing up her party, as she put it, she is doing for their own good. We already have a selfess morally bankrupt President do we really need another one who only interest is power?

[Leiske]

Wow. I can't believe that certain people would rather not vote Democrat than vote for a united ticket. Especially since there are very few fundamental differences between Clinton and Obama. I'd love to see that ticket and I'd be happy to vote for it, whoever was "on top". If you don't vote Democrat, you're voting for at least four more years of the massive FAIL Bush got us into.

[Wayne]

We need Hillary at VP to be the Cheney for Obama.

[FCFisher]

Hopefully, Obama has gone as far as Rhetoric can take him. Witness the emotional arguments for him and against his rival. But those of you who expect a rational dialog and choice, don't forget Joseph Goebbels and Karl Rove.

[Rose]

Obama is really lucky that he is running against Billary who is disliked by the even the democrats except the old naive women. Otheriwse, he wouldn't have a chance.

[Alfred Reasor]

"Plus, to be realistic, whomever is the Democratic vice president on any successful ticket led by the New York senator will actually be forced to work with a pair of Clintons in the White House, making him potentially vice-vice-president."

What horrible grammar! What a horrible sentence! "Whomever" is incorrect in this sentence because it is not an object. The correct English grammar requires "whoever" when it is the nominative case as it is in this sentence.

Before we review would-be presidents, it would be better if we went to school and learned to write the English language.

[rose]

Obama seems to be too nice to Hillary. He thinks if he goes tough on Hillary then he might lose support among women. He is in an akward situation.

[Audrey]

Hillary obviously realizes how much she's ripped apart the Democratic party in her quest to claim the nomination. As a fervent Obama supporter, there is no way I would vote for Hillary because of the way she's run her campaign. I'd rather see McCain president than she, and many of my Dem friends across the country (who've all been paying close attention to this process, watching every debate, reading all the press) feel the same way. I haven't rationalized my way to a shared ticket, but even then I could barely only consider it if Obama were at the top, and I don't think he would do it if Hillary were on the ticket. Her tactics are beyond disgusting to me and have sent women back 50 years.

[Bridgette]

If Hillary wins the nomination, McCain wins the Presidency!

She is a divisive and polarizing figure.

Point 1
If Clinton wins the nomination, John McCain wins the Republican vote as well as a large part of the independent vote (Obama wins both Independent and brings many new voters to the table).

Point 2
If Clinton wins the nomination, she will mobilize the rightwing Republican base to get out the vote. John McCain historically has a tough time with the rightwing Republican base however; nothing will mobilize that base quicker than Hillary Clinton. They despise her and Bill. We all know how powerful the rightwing republican base is when it’s working at full force. She’s done for and so is the country!

So, Fellow Democrats…If you want to win the Whitehouse…Vote for Barack Obama!

[Sidmore]

So she knows she is going to LOSE and she want to be his vice-prez so she can SINK the ticket. I don't think so TeamObama will keep chugging until we get to the covention ahead in delegates. End of story. Find someone else's coattails to ride. You are shameless Clinton!!

[Xe]

Listen,

We all understand that American government is trying to image itself as "democratic" in contrast to other nations that try to elect their leaders in peace.

However when we deeply analyze what is going on in the "electoral" business in America, all what they are doing is just a falls show. Here are two points:

1. There will never be any biracial man or woman elected in USA. However, the US government brings some nice lookg, nice talking guy to run for office though it is just a show.
2. The election is not in fact democratic because it does not represent the interest of the majority of the people in this country and the world interest. It represents the interest of the USA only. The election process if just a show business for mass media and the world without substance.

As to a white woman being in office, it is possible, because this lady had a very good expereince because she used to be an educated young astriving lady when she started her life with a young nicce looking sexy Presiident and he will will get back to the white house next November.

Though it is a teaching and learing place, I do not understand why they spend so much money on thse adds? They should put that money to health care and educational support.

[Oswaldo]

Ho! Boy! This is getting interesting? a ticket for Hillary/Obama will be nice but not the other way around! I mean look at Hillary she is one great of a fighter, SHE DOESN'T give up, she's strong..That's what we need in the elections, I am soory for Obama he doesn't hold the popular vote anymore, because he lacks the experience.
If we do the math he's ahead but the way the system works there are Super delegates that most likely will make a decision becaude the way it goes none of them will have the numbers need it, therefore we have to decide who's more experience? and people please don't vote your consience, vote for power, you are just spliting the Democratic party, ACCEPT what's right..

[UCLA Bruin]

How about this scenario?

The Clinton Machine hangs on until late August while McCain uses the time to select a VP candidate and hit the road unimpeded by anyone else in his party on the Straight Talk Express, building up his warchest and solidifying the Republican base while appealing to moderates and independents .

The Democrats have a well-earned reputation for shooting themselves in the foot, but this takes the cake.

Hillary needs to learn the difference between winning and hanging on, until she does, she is only hurting the Democratic Party's chances come November.

[ljoy]

OBAMA -
AN UNTRUSTWORTHY
"CHANGE."


"CHANGE,"
YOUR VOTE NOW TO SOMEONE ELSE!
Anyone would be better.

"OBAMA"S STORIES CHANGE TO SUIT HIS OBJECTIVES OF THE MOMENT."

HE IT NOT THE ANGEL HIS SUPPORTERS DREAM OF. HE HAS KEPT SECRETS, AND UNWORTHY ASSOCIATES LIKE RESKO WHO NOW FACES FEDERAL CHARGES.
CAN YOU REALLY TRUST HIM WITH YOUR FUTURE?

MICHELE OBAMA IS A LOOSE CANNON REGARDING OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE WORLD.
LIKE HER HUSBAND, WHO HIDES THINGS, SHE TRIED TO EXPLAIN AWAY HER LACK OF AMERICAN PRIDE AS AS "MISUNDERSTOOD."
BULLSHIT.
LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT SHE SAID, AND HOW SHE SAID IT.
" IT WAS NOT AN ERROR ON HER PART, BUT HER OPINION AT HEART."
SHE STATED THIS ON PUBLIC T.V . MICHELE OBAMA SAID:

"I HAVE NEVER NOT ONCE IN MY ADULT LIFE BEEN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, UNTIL NOW."
WHAT SHE WANTED TO SAY IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE VOTED FOR MY AFRICAN AMERICAN HUSBAND ,
NOW THE COUNTRY WILL BE WHOLE, AND HAVE A REAL PRESIDENT AS ALL THE WHITE ONES BEFORE HAVE FAILED US SO.

PERHAPS SHE SHOULD GO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY OF HER AFRICAN AMERICAN ROOTS, AFRICA.

I HAVE NO DOG IN DEMOCRATIC RACE.
i DO THINK HILLARY CLINTON AND BILL ARE THE BETTRE DEMOCRATIC CHOICE AND SHE AND BILL BEHIND THE SCENES WILL SAVE THE ECONOMY.
THIS ONE ELEMENT OF THE ELECTION IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.

[James Crackcorn]

All I can say is...THANK YOU BUSH! I was already confident that the Democratic Party would win the general election, and now Bush has sealed the deal. What's sad is that I actually like McCain, but I despise the Republican party. THANK YOU BUSH! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

[Tedd]

I think a ticket like this would unite the people rather than divide them. I wouldn't understand why any one would vote for a republican just because they didn't get their democratic candidate the presidency? Some democrats, especially after reading some of these comments, don't like Hillary. What will they do if Hillary wins the democratic ticket, vote for McCain? I'm neither a democrat or republican, and I used to appreciate McCain before he started acting like a Bush. I like Obama and Clinton, however I think Clinton is a fighter, she's a strong women with backbone, and we need some one who will stand up against Republican's who will try to strong arm the Democrats because let's face it the Democrats seem week in congress. She would also have good diplomatic relations with allies, unlike Bush, who seems like a baby who lost his rattler.

[fletch]

I hope that Obama remembers that desperate peope take desperate measures, which is what Hillary is considering with the possibility of asking him to run as the vice president on the democratic ticket, that takes alot of intestinal fortitude. How else is she going to remain in politics, as she has to find a winner somewhere; which she didn't accomplish with her marriage partner, otherwise he wouldn't have gone looking elsewhere, and we all know for a fact he did!

[Karen]

According to CNN (as of right now), Obama is still ahead by 135 pledged delegates. There are 585 pledged delegates left to win in the remaining states - so hillary would need to win 360 delegates to break even with him. i.e. she would need to win 61.5% of all the remaining delegates. In other words, she would need to beat him by 23 points in EVERY single state from now on. That does seem relatively "insurmountable". However, I do believe she has a good chance of winning the nomination by getting the superdelegates to overturn the popular vote.

[Bridget]

Now Hillary is playing mind games. To suggest that she would be willing to be on a joint ticket with Obama and that winning Ohio means she should be at the top of the ticket is tricky. I suppose she is hoping to position herself as the presumptive nominee through this suggestion. I just hope after her negative campaigning and her little mind tricks people start realizing that voting for her would mean more of the same divisive politics that have ruled for so long. Since when does winning one state mean you have the whole country behind you? And what foreign policy crisis has she had to deal with in her political career?

[Jake]

All the sudden we hear from the Hillary supporters-where have you guys been at? Hillary wins two major states she was supposed to win to begin with (her so-called "firewall" states) and Hillary supporters are gloating? Good morale boosters, but last time I checked Hillary lost some superdelagates, lost 12 contests in a row and Obama narrowed Hillary's lead in Texas and Ohio from double digits to single ones-two states she was supposed to win handedly. Furthermore, Obama still leads in delagate count: 510 more delagates or 400+ and some of the 300 uncommited superdelagates and Obama wins. This should be sobering to Hillary fans if they bothered to look outside the hole they've put their heads in the past 6 months.

Hillary is marketing herself as the one with "experience". Well, if she continues that marketing scheme against McCain she'll lose handedly since he's got more experience than Hillary and Obama combined. And no, Hillary has never had " 3 in the morning" experience, as she's emplied she has, that she can ever recall. What specifically in her tenure as a senator from New York can she illustrate her readiness to be commander and chief? She likes to claim that she's more on specifics than Obama. So far no specifics just more attacks on Obama. Does she really think Obama supporters would rally for her if she did win? She'll need every single one. But Obama doesn't need her supporters to win the presidency-he'll just take some of McCains. Oh and by the way, being first lady doesn't count as "experience" otherwise Nancy Reagan is more than qualified to be president. So, how will she change her message to be different from McCain's? That she's a candidate for "change"? That's already been taken from the guy who has the best chance against McCain and the guy who will court Republicans with greater success than Hillary can ever. I use "Hillary" instead of "Clinton" to distinguish her from her running mate for the Democratic nomination with the same last name. And Hillary claims that Obama supporters are delusional. Really.

[Renee]

It's over folks. No way in hell this ticket will ever happen. With her divisiveness and nasty attacks she has litterally killed any hopes of winning the Presidency. Thanks alot Hillary for all you have done to ruin the democractic ticket. What a loser. McCain will be the next President. You gave the republicans so much amunition about Barack that there will never be a chance of either of you becoming President or VP!

[Ron, Redlands, CA]

Wow, Hillary gonna let Obama come work for her. Mighty white of her!

[marco polo]

Why do ppl keep talking about the 11 state win. Come on winning small states (and the black vote) compared to the bigger ones? It is like comparing the importance of Hawaii to NY. If you want to talk about popular vote, ok makes sense and that is much closer.

[Ellen]

Oh my god, he should never, ever,ever agree to be VP..ever. The Clintons are scummy people and it would be a nightmare for him.
The reality is he was 20 points behind in Ohio two weeks ago and 12 points behind in Texas 2 weeks ago. The momentum is his.
Never reward bad behavior and the Clintons are showing plenty of it. He should do nicely in Wyoming, Mississippi and North Carolina. Go Obama.

[Carol]

The republicans played a large part in the ohio and texas wins. They know the Dems will lose in November with Hilliary as the nominee. Hillary also knows that Obamas will not vote for her which is why she is "hinting" at a dream ticket. She (and Bill) should be no where near the white house! NO MORE CLINTONS .. PLEASE!!.

[Mark]

Hahahaha. She's lost 12 states in a row. She wins two and she thinks she's the president. Oh dear.

If anybody thinks Barack Obama will be interested in this they have gone nuts. Hillary has been a *distant* number 2 to Barack since Iowa.

[no obama]

STOP CRYING OBAMABOY! YOU LOST BIG! sore looser! When Obamas friends and financial backers are either in court or jail. Obama and his boytoy Axelrod are grasping at straws in desperate times. " These times are a changin" Looks like the media love affair with media coronated Obama is over and he cant handle the heat! time for him to get out and stay out of the kitchen.
OR...tell us about Rezko?, Renzi?, Former Dallas Mayor Hill? Mr.Aunchi? OR, his meeting with Canada, OR According to Muslim religion, father’s religion determines the religion of the offspring. Therefore, Obama was truly once a Muslim and the law in Islam called TAGIYEH which means you can lie about your religion in order to do good for Allah! what good is Obama hoping to do for Allah? OR, Obama agreeing and highly respecting the actions and opinions of his spiritual advisor Rev. Wright who has recently awarded Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam Minister with their churches highest award. Might I add Oprah attends the same church! OR Obama camp calling African-American superdelegates to target, harass and threaten,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who supports Clinton. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats, being called an Uncle Tom. Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., also is receiving several e-mails from individuals saying they won’t vote for her if she doesn’t change her support to Obama, she should vote for him because she, too, is black. Rep. John Lewis, a black civil rights icon, sadly enough has given into the racial threatning politics of the Obama camp and switched his support from Clinton to Obama.

VOTE FOR CLINTON, WE HAVE PLAYED WITH OPRAHBAMA LONG ENOUGH! we need a True American leader and thats not Obama.

[SLB]

What utter nonsense! BClinton is not even possibly going to be vetted as a potential VP.

This is just another anti-Hillary article. You media folks need to take a hard look at how you are ruining this election for the Dems. Your uncritical look at Obama is not doing him or the Dems any favors. If he wins, he will face some hard scrutiny, and it will be very damaging to the Democratic party when it comes that late in the election.

Can't we at least have BASIC FAIRNESS to both candidates? Can't you see the writing on the wall? They are both very much liked by the people! It is inevitable that they should work together. PLEASE stop splitting this party by making Hillary the "bad child" and Obama the "golden child"!

[v]

I have never voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate, but I am supporting Barack Obama UNLESS he and Hillary Clinton are linked. I personally think he is far too bright to even consider that option, especially after seeing how she runs her ship. Hillary Clinton is undignified, she is dishonest, she is course, as is her husband, the EX president, Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton changes her faces as often as she changes her pantsuits. Barack Obama is steady and forthright - someone with nothing to hide. If Barack Obama choses Hillary Clinton as his VP I will no longer support him, because that would show a distinct lack of good judgment on his part, something he says he is in great command of.

Hillary Clinton has a cold gaze and no light in her eyes, not even when she smiles (or cackles). Barack Obama has a steady, clear gaze and a real smile - even his eyes smile when he smiles. That isn't about policy or ideals or health care - but it makes all the difference in the world - the likeability factor. We are all voting for a person, after all. I want my candidate to be smart, capable, honorable, open-minded, clear headed, HUMANE, and ready to start on day one. WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY - VOTE YOUR HEART, AS WELL AS YOUR MIND - VOTE BARACK OBAMA.

[Mister Wu]

Intellegence does matter in a president. Listening to Hillary heads on the radio reciting the same buzy phrases ad nauseum makes me wonder if there's a original brain in thebunch. McCain heads seem to be Bushite in a new suit. At "three to five o'clock in the morning" on "day two and beyond, I want somebody who can't think in the oval office.

[FLRepublican]

Practical issues aside, such as diluting the Change movement with a dose of the earmark queen, a joint ticket is a solution to the Democratic caucus dilemma.
Given that the role of VP candidate is usually that of an attack dog and "fighter", Hillary would fit that job description well and leave Obama to deliver on his vision and inspire the nation.

(really doubt it'll come to pass though since she feels entitled to the presidency and this is just a clever tactic given that she is still behind the count)

[Jamal Uddin Ahmed]

I think Hillary Clinton is the best candidate for 2008 election. For Democratic party this is time to understand the reality.

[Luke Gilmore]

I do not think Obama is perfect and I am afraid of the Republicans smear machine. I do not like hypocrisy and that is Hillary represents to me. There is only one thing she can attach Obama with, Rezko. There are many things she still need to explain but no luck.
HISTORY LESSON ON HILLARY

The entire list below represents historical facts that are not in dispute anywhere.

So let's think about the logic of those who would consider, even for a moment, bringing anyone associated with the Clintons back into the White House-----especially Hillary.

The Clintons have been telling America that Hillary is the most qualified candidate for president based on her record,' which they say includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate.

In fact, in his stump speeches, Bill Clinton goes so far as to marvel at his wife's "genius" and repeatedly claims that he never made a major policy, legislative or political decision without consulting her during that 1st Clinton Administration.

So here is a PARTIAL list of her accomplishments, activities, and behavior during the past 15 years since they first ran for President in 1992:

1) As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)

2) Hillary also assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno.
The same Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.'

3) Hillary was also the person who recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn....need more?

4) Hillary recommended three of her former law partners for Administration jobs: Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury Dept., respectively.
Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster allegedly committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to
resign.

5) Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. (FBI
agent Dennis Sculimbrene later confirmed in a 1996 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing both the drug use and Hillary' s involvement in hiring Livingstone.
As a result, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, which had previously served seven presidents for over thirty years without any such incident.)

6) In order to open 'slots' in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

7) Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense. How competently did she perform? Just follow these dots:
She is the one who urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. She also stubbornly refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill's lying about and later admitting the affair.
Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
And Bill was impeached by the House.
And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice. She avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times
under oath.

8) Hillary accepted the traditional First Lady's role of decorator of the White House at Christmas, but in a unique Hillary way. In 1994,
for example, the First Lady's Tree in the Blue Room (the focal point each year) was decorated with drug paraphernalia, sex toys, and pornographic ornaments, all personally approved by Hillary as the invited artists' depictions of the theme, 'The Twelve Days of Christmas.'

9) Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.

10) Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state where she had never lived. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.

11) Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.

12) In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "gender card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on a poor woman.

13) Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

14) As a Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.

15) Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.

Again, all above are facts that are not in dispute. Together they paint a picture of a distburbing pattern of manipulation, deceipt, and bad judgement that her conduct of this campaign confirms, yet grossly understates.

[LT]

Obama in 2012. After one more Republican admin., America will be ready.

McCain has this one...too late for Dems.

[Jamal Uddin Ahmed]

I think Hillary Clinton is the best candidate for 2008 election. For democretic party this is time to understand the reality.

[Young Atheart]

Obama support as VP cannot really help Hillary win against John McCain because she does not represent the hopes of a new electorate for a new type of politics. They would just see Obama as becoming a Washington insider like Hillary and depart from political involvement.

Ther other problem is Bill Clinton who would be the real VP (or even the real President) like Dick Cheney.

[Diane]

I refuse to choose a candidate based on gender or race. It's not important to me. I'm also able to distinguish the difference between words and actions. I will also admit that I have been an admirer of Obama since 2002 because I was so adamantly opposed to the war. There were so few who spoke out against the war.

Having said that, I still want the person who will do the best job for America, both globally and at home. So if Clinton was the most viable candidate, I would support her.

The facts, Ma'am, just the facts.

Senate bills: Obama and Clinton
See http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/02/senate-record-comparison-obama.php

Or http://thomas.loc.gov/ if you want to research it yourself.

“Inexperience”

http://jaydiatribe.blogspot.com/2007/03/barack-obamas-inexperience.html
(skip to the table for just the facts)

Clinton’s brief biography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Obama brief biography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

For me, it’s Obama all the way. I don't think he needs the Clinton matched set of baggage for his trip to the White House.

[TJFRMLA]

BARACK OBAMA SHOULDN'T BE SEEN IN THE SAME ROOM WITH HILLARY CLINTON. She's a vile, loathesome waste of skin. If he intends to keep any of his integrity in tack and she STEALS the nomination...he should just let her drown in her own crap.

[Monique in Los Angeles]

First of all, as the MORE QUALIFIED candidate it would be AN INSULT for Clinton to take a back seat to Obama just because he is a man and some men CANT HANDLE a WOMAN IN CHARGE! You spend 35 years fighting for the people and, youve got 35 years of a DAMN GOOD RESUME and just because some young (supposedly good looking guy- I dont see how, and im a black woman) get the job because HES A MAN??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?! OH LAND OF THE "FREE." FREE for MEN ONLY I GUESS...

IF I was her, I would SHUN any VP offering. HELL TO THE NO!

That would be an incredible DISSERVICE to WOMEN ALL OVER THE NATION!

IF people would get over their OBAMAFIXATION they would be able to open their eyes and SEE who is better qualified to do this all cumbersome job.

Do any of you think this is going to be easy???

DO you HONESTLY want a ROOKIE to CLEAN UP the BIGGEST MESS that any president has left behind?

Are you Obama people seriously satisfied with a president who will be running the country from a pool of advisors? Isnt this was Bush did??? DO YOU SEE THE MESS WE ARE IN TODAY???

GET REAL! GET A CLUE! ANd GET OVER YOUR HATRED FOR HILLARY CLINTON!

That woman has not done HALF THE CRAP warranted to be hated as much as THE MEDIA has brainwashed you to!

AND THEN GET OVER THE FACT THAT A WOMAN FOR ONCE WILL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY!

[isn't it remarkable ...?]

... that hillary, who has fallen short and is still behind, now believes she is in "equal" standing with barack obama? apparently some of her husband's traits have rubbed off on her if she is so delusional as to believe she has been propelled forward enough to now speak of barack obama as HER running mate!
the texas count isn't over yet and both hill and bill can rest assured that after the inane and racial remarks made in south carolina that several within the afro american community will come out strongly against her!

http://www.bigthink.com/features/267

[Ron, Redlands, CA]

Thank you Master Hillary, gonna let Obama come to the big house to work for you. Thank ya, thank ya......
Please someone put this lady in her place and it is not the White House.

[David Kallio]

It is truly sad that so many Democrats are willing to be so divisive. Let the process evolve. Let's face it, either candidate on the top of the ticket and the other as V.P. would create a steamroller for the party. In these primaries, the Dems are outvoting the Repubs 2 to 1. Let's keep the momentum and reverse eight years of disaster and keep our party's feet to the fire to represent core Democratic values. Let's not tear each other apart. I can live with it either way, especially if it sweeps the party decisively into Congress. Then make the part work for us!!

[Dave]

Billary has done too much to alienate the African American base to think she can win the general election. My guess is that black voters would rather stay home after such betrayal. They had such confidence in the Clintons before the campaign.

Billary hasn't done anything for this particular white female voter either.

I'm of the younger generation, so the whole idea of dismissing someone because they are black, or a male, or possibly a muslim, is appalling.

I wanted people to treat me fairly as a woman, and so I should extend the courtesy to everyone else. Clinton doesn't feel that way. People can call me a traitor for 'voting against my gender', but I don't care. As far as I am concerned, she's a bigot first, and a candidate last.

The fact that the Party has also not come out like the Republican Party has and denounced these tactics is telling. Makes me wonder what Democrats represent.

The damage she has done to the party base will take years to repair. Even if Obama ends up as the nominee, there's no guarantee I'll remain in the party after the election. Dean and the DNC have *alot* of explaining to do for the debacle this race has become.

I know that Obama said he's planning to hit harder, and I really hope he just stays to the issues if he does. I don't think we need any more bloodletting. It's bad enough with Hillary.