Ex-Rep. Bob Barr to seek Libertarian nod, may get Ron Paul O.K.

Just when you thought we might be whittling down the number of presidential candidates, there's a new one about to jump in.

According to a political website, Fitsnews.com, former Republican Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia is about to announce his candidacy with the Libertarian Party.

The same site predicts tonight that GOP Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who has refused to endorse the presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain and continues his own vain campaign, will endorse Barr's bid.

That would indeed make for an unusual sight, an active candidate in one party endorsing a new one in another party.

Paul actually ran as the Libertarian Party's candidate for president in 1988, but has consistently rejected a third-party bid throughout this campaign.

The 72-year-old Paul's campaign -- he's the only survivor beyond McCain of 11 Republicans from last year -- surprised many political observers with its financial potency. Some 800,000 eager and energetic voters, many of them new to politics, have given him in excess of $32 million in the last year, nearly $20 million of it in the last quarter of 2007, to make him the largest GOP fundraiser then. They developed a whole range of creative ideas to arouse political support, including a pinup calendar of nearly naked Hotties4Ron Paul.

Barr, who represented Georgia's 7th District for eight years until 2003, like Paul has made no secret of his dissatisfaction with current Republican Party leadership. He's praised Paul for....

tapping into that same dissatisfaction with his strict constitutionalist approach and desire to drastically reduce the size of the federal government. You may also remember Barr as the activist House floor manager during the impeachment proceedings against former President Bill Clinton.

Paul has said he will continue to slog on as long as his supporters support him with their energy and donations. He reported about $5 million cash in hand at the end of February and zero campaign debt.

As an ardent opponent of the Iraq war, Paul has declined to endorse McCain and don't expect him to change his mind. In a recent interview with Newsweek, he said his supporters would like to work within the GOP but often find themselves unwelcome. He was asked if he would urge them to vote for Republican McCain come November.

"I'm not going to tell them what to do," Paul replied. "But I honestly can't imagine any of them supporting him. That would be a tough sale. The odds of him all of a sudden coming to one of our rallies and being cheered on are not very high."

--Andrew Malcolm

Comments

[Anon]

Barr gave Paul a great introduction at CPAC this year!! He told the audience that RON PAUL is the true conservative and he is right! The Revolution to take back the GOP is just getting underway, watch out, here we come! 32 million was nothing compared to what we can really raise!! Lastly, the media was completely baised against Paul, the only person talking sense to the American people, anyone who reads this beware of the corporate media, cancel your cable bill and join us her on the net! Til the bitter end!!

[Keith]

G-D IT! I thought the Paul thing was gone finally, well this is probably a dead cat bounce anyway. Happy Trails Mr. Ron!

[Flo]

Wonderful news from abroad. Paul was right. No I hope you can still laugh

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/usa-2008-the-great-depression-803095.html

[mikey]

"The odds of him [John McCain] all of a sudden coming to one of our rallies and being cheered on are not very high."

I have seen video of McCain's fundraisers, and there is not much cheering going on at McCain's events. There aren't many enthusiastic McCain supporters.

[Ron Paul]

Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. Shame on him.

[dave]

i'm sure ron paul would never tell bob barr what to do, just like he wouldn't tell anyone in favor of his own agenda whom to support. all he can do is give good advice, as he always is happy to do - and i can't see that he is asking anyone to abandon his own campaign which would mean to weaken it, and give away his realistic chances to take back the republican party from the neocon hijackers. but he will welcome any honest support for his own campaign, any time.

[George Whitfield]

I hope that Bob Barr will announce and that the Libertarian Party will nominate him for President. There is a very large and growing number of Ron Paul supporters who will never vote for McCain or Hillary/Obama. They are activists and generous in donating both time and money to the cause of liberty and restoring the US Constitution. They need somone to rally around and I think Bob Barr would be an excellent person for that position. I know I will support him.

[Darryl Schmitz]

Political tags aside, Ron Paul and Bob Barr are a whole lot closer to the governmental philosophy of our founding fathers than anyone we've had in the White House for the past 60 years or more. If the Libertarian Party's hardcore libertarians are willing to adopt our founders' brand of libertarian republicanism (which I believe the vast majority are) by considering Bob Barr - a highly-qualified leader - for president, I'd vote Libertarian in a heartbeat. What would make the most sense would be if the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party realize that they are very similar in philosophy and merge. They are appealing to the same constitutional-government voters and making their uphill battle even more difficult.

[dave]

there is a very large and growing number of people who support ron paul and his message, and ron paul is right there for them; and will make an excellent president.

[James Bell]

Bob Barr for President? Campaign May Change Georgia’s Political Landscape Forever

Atlanta Georgia: With the news that former Republican Congressman Bob Barr maybe considering seeking the Libertarian Party nomination for president of the United States, Georgia Libertarians see the potential for historic change in Georgia politics.

As a “third party”, Libertarians must follow tough ballot access laws which are considered some of the most restrictive in the nation.

In the 1980’s the Libertarian Party of Georgia (LPGa) gained statewide ballot access by garnering the required 1% of registered voters and has maintained access by exceeding the 1% vote requirement. However, in order to run local and district races, candidates are still required to petition for ballot access. This petitioning process is considered to be unfair and prohibitive. No candidate has ever successfully met the requirement since it became law in 1943.

Georgia law also says that in order to be a “Political Party” rather than a “Political Body” it must receive 20 percent of the votes in a gubernatorial or presidential race. By receiving the 20 percent this will mean Libertarians will have full ballot access and be able to participate in the primary election process.

How does Bob Barr affect this issue?

With Bob Barr’s name recognition in Georgia and a strong political network, he could potentially receive the 20 percent of the votes needed to allow the Libertarian Party to gain full ballot access and run local candidates; leveling the playing field.

James Bell, communications director for LPGa., said a Barr presidential bid would propel the Libertarian Party to the forefront of a national public debate about taxation and personal freedom.

“Barr could be the spoiler that kicks the Republicans out of the White House”, Bell said.
“The Republicans are holding their noses over the apparent nomination of John McCain and we see the potential that many fiscal conservative and civil libertarians will just ship and vote Libertarian in 2008.”

"There is great deal [of] dissatisfaction with the candidates for the two major parties, particularly among conservatives, but also a great deal of Internet and other support for a candidate like Ron Paul who advocates libertarian and true conservative principles," said Mr. Barr, who is now a Libertarian. – Washington Times

[Hot 27 Year Old Female]

Andrew Malcolm, you'll go on the list of reporters that no one will read in the next 2 years. You didn't know of the list? Hahahahaha... The movement started behind RP last year will change a lot of things in the near futures of a lot of people.

[Red Leader]

Paul's 'vain' campaign? Hilarious. The Ronulans are taking over the delegate spots as we speak. What happens at the convention when Amnesty McCainitez has to face a crowd full of Constitutionalists?

[ellen]

I'm a Ron Paul supporter, and ...perplexed.

[Eloy Gonzalez II]

"and continues his own vain campaign"? How much did someone pay you to sneak in that line? Ron Paul stands for something right, and when you do that, you don't back down just because a popular candidate who is anything but a conservative is running against you.

RON PAUL 2008!!!

[Bo Cappella]

Has everyone forgotten that Barr was a leader in the war on drug-users? I don't see him as a Libertarian, and I wish that Dr. Paul would come over to the LP side (after the GOP convention) and run in his TRUE party.

[Tom deSabla]

Whoever said this:

"Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. Shame on him."

You're either stupid or a liar. Libertarians like Paul bear very little resemblance to liberals or democrats. Who are you trying to con? Zip your mouth up, you anonymous coward!

[sacred chao]

Ron Paul was the only all around Conservative in the race, from the beginning.

[John Howard]

The notice above says that if I am under 13 years of age I may read, but not participate in this message board. I assume this is to protect the adults from the wisdom of children.

Any child can see that adults are mostly insane. The insanity takes the form of government and religion, the two great sources of nonsense afflicting the planet.

Good policy. We must be protected from hearing what children think. They shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions until we are sure they are fully insanitized with faith and force.

[Aaron]

I don't see why Paul would endorse him. This guy moved to prohibit the practice of wiccan in the U.S. military. Sure, he agrees a lot with Paul on foreign policy, but many other things are WAY different. I'm not voting for Barr no matter what and I am one of the biggest Paul supporters you'll ever meet.

[Mark]

Bob Barr better make up his mind fast because the next Ron Paul fundraising day on April 14? is coming up and if he doesnt announce, I may be tapped out.

[James Orleans]

Ron Paul stands for a return of the Republican party to its roots of fiscal conservatism, personal freedom, a strong currency, and no foreign adventurism, i.e. real conservatism. Dr. Paul understands that he will not win the Republican nomination. He wants those who agree with his ideas to try to take the party back from neoconservatives who have hijacked it and are bankrupting America with their endless wars, nation building and downright idiotic economic policy.

[Franklin]

Ron Paul is such a liberal. McCain is a real conservative because real conservatives support deficit spending, restrictions on free speech, amnesty for illegal aliens, increased government spending, nation building, foreign aid for brutal dictatorships, a centrally run economy and tax hikes. Since Ron Paul is against all of these things, he is a liberal. Since John McCain supports all of these things, he is a conservative.

[Jim]

Mr. Malcolm reveals a personal bias by choosing to label Mr. Paul as vain and picking the "Hotties" example to characterize Paul supporters. I'm unimpressed with this not so subtle smear in what is otherwise presented as objective joulnalism. So much for Mr. Malcolm and his employer the LA Times.

[ronpaulsupporter]

I was wondering who, nationally, would be able to pick up Ron's mantle and carry us into the future...I hope Mr. Barr is a capable standard bearer. As much as I like Ron, he is in his 70's and the chance of him "running again" in 4 years is not likely, so we need a younger version of him...does Bob Barr have those credentials? Has he ever voted for a tax increase? and unbalanced budget? etc?

[Diane]

I'll vote for whomever the good man Ron Paul endorses. He is the only politician that I trust.

Time to get some fresh blood in this race.

The 3 stooges are pathetic.

[Sally Falk]

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[John Smith]

Barr hints at it on Antiwar Radio.

[TJ]

I am waiting to see if Jesse Ventura gets in the race.
If not I will vote and donate to Barr.

[Linda]

To the above comment quote: "Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. "

I have to ask the person who wrote that comment...Do you know what a liberal is? Do you know what a conservative is? Mr. McCain, although calling himself Republican, can hardly be called conservative.

There was a time when Republicans were conservative. They believed in non-interventionism, low taxes, controlled spending, small government, free markets, individual freedom, and the Constitution. Today’s Republican Party via John McCain is nothing more than a public relations firm set up to hide that Republicans rarely vote in line with conservative principles anymore. Ron Paul and his supporters just want to restore truth to the rhetoric.

[Brad Forschner]

I agree with you George, Bob Barr will make a good LP candidate/Spokesman! And I bet RP will endorse him.

[Steve LaBianca]

Barr seems to be moving in the libertarian direction, though he still has some distance to go. I would ask that he wait until he is ready to defend the great majority of libertarian positions before he runs for president as a Libertarian. I am supporting Dr. Mary Ruwart for the LP presidential nomination . . . she is and has been dead-on with the libertarian positions for years, and is a formidable candidate. In contrast, Barr, would need to educate himself more to properly represent a principled, libertarian approach to solving America's problem of way, way too much government. I am confident he will, but he isn't there. Maybe in 2012.

[Steve LaBianca]

Barr seems to be moving in the libertarian direction, though he still has some distance to go. I would ask that he wait until he is ready to defend the great majority of libertarian positions before he runs for president as a Libertarian. I am supporting Dr. Mary Ruwart for the LP presidential nomination . . . she is and has been dead-on with the libertarian positions for years, and is a formidable candidate. In contrast, Barr, would need to educate himself more to properly represent a principled, libertarian approach to solving America's problem of way, way too much government. I am confident he will, but he isn't there. Maybe in 2012.

[Toby]

What about Ron Paul as a running mate? AND native Texans should be proud of Ron Paul's stance after all Texas was founded as a republic.

[Alice]

Ron Paul has as many delegates in South Dakota as Mccain. Alaska has a clear majority of delegates for Ron Paul !! This is happening all over the country !! Unplug that TV because its not reality. This revolution is just getting started and it wont be televised !!
Ron Paul for America and the world !!!

[frank meyers]

choices and options what america wants and needs. I hope that Barr and Gravel will look at the candidates running for the LP Nonimation like kubby jingozian or phillies for a running mate and have a ticket the LP members can really support. www.resetamerica.com

[Haigh]

"Posted by: mikey | March 31, 2008 at 11:46 PM

Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. Shame on him."

Hey Mikey, Can you name one liberal or one democrat who wants to abolish the IRS and the Department of Education?
I want to get on their bandwagon.
Get a clue, he's not your Momma's liberal.

[George Bush]

Ron Paul is not a shame on Texans... have you forgotten our current great president? Or maybe you're on the 30% of his approval rating.

[jimmie]

This is pure genius !

I am sure some of you will realize what is happening
here.

The ART of WAR.

rEVOLution......................Keep goin'

[Shane Savoie]

Bob Barr would make a great third party candidate, but I worry about being able to enlist a good chunk of RP's supporters. You know, the ones that insist they'll write him in before they vote for anyone on the ballot. Without out Dr. Paul's endorsement, we can be sure the truly Paultarded will still be waving his signs on an overpass near you until well into 2010. I spoke with a lady in our Meetup group this a.m. and she still believes we'll win the GOP nomination...

[Real Libertarian]

The LP already has plenty of candidate, many of whom are, well, libertarians. I'm disappointed that Ron Paul would see fit to endorse a Republican for the nomination rather than Dr. Mary Ruwart. He previously supported Dr. Ruwart when she was considered for FDA Commissioner. This would be a shame for the LP, to nominate a leader in the war on drugs.

[Amber]

"Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. Shame on him."

No, that's Rudy Giuliani - you must be confused. He's out of the race now, and he's from New York. Ron Paul's the one that wants to keep you free to continue expressing your ignorance...

[Brad S.]

Ha-HAAA!
This is pure GENIUS!!!
Think about it...it's the perfect 'one-two punch' for the Ron Paul Movement and the Revolution...pure GENIUS! Right now, we are getting as many delegates as we can for Ron Paul, so that we can make as big of an impact on countering sanctioned neocon candidate John McCain at the RNC in St. Paul this Sept. Since McCain has suppostedly gained a 'virtual majority' of delegates (1191 is the magic number), even Dr. Paul has stated that he's unlikely to be able to muster enough delegates to overcome McCain's lead. BUT...Dr. Paul will most likely have accrued a significant number of total delegates to give McCain and the party elite a real headache at the RNC, while at the same time affecting real change in the existing neocon biased Republican platform by getting more 'traditionally conservative' resolutions adopted that are closely aligned to Constitutional law.

Ok, so there's that...now onto the second part of the 'one-two punch'! So now Mr. Bob Barr (another freedom loving Constitutionalist like Dr. Paul) enters the presidential race as a third party/Libertarian candidate (which is what alot of people in the Ron Paul movement have been wishing Dr. Paul would do, but isn't likely to happen). Bob Barr running as a third party/Libertarian candidate is a PERFECT BACKUP for the continuation of the Ron Paul Revolution! The Ron Paul delegates at the RNC in St. Paul will do their damndest to get Dr. Paul elected (a real long-shot), and will be even more effective at making significant inroads in changing the party's currently corrupt platform. AND...if Dr. Paul doesn't win the RNC nomination to run in the General Election, then the movement has a choice come November. They can either do a "write-in" vote for Dr. Paul as their presidential preference (which will not likely garner as many Independent/digruntled Democrat/Third party votes as an official, popular third party/Libertarian candidate like Bob Barr would), and who...if elected...would most likely choose Dr. Paul for his vice-presidential running mate! If you really stop and think about it, this will provide the Maximum opportunity for us to get a person in the White House that is dedicated to putting the Constitution back on center stage again in establishing the boundaries federal government must operate under, and for providing the opportunity for this Revolution to be taken to the next level. That level being and inside track into cleaning out the old 'neocon guard', and replacing them with Freedom Loving Constitutionalist again, the way our Founding Fathers meant it to be! I don't look at this a being a bad thing...I see it as being a very VERY smart move by Dr. Paul and Mr. Bob Barr!

[ricknhouston]

Ron is a shame on all Texans. This liberal is really a Democrat in drag. Shame on him.

Posted by: Ron Paul | March 31, 2008 at 11:54 PM

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Dude ... you need to step away from your crack pipe for a bit.... your way tooooooooo stoned!

[Teflon Ron]

Paulista to the core!
Revolution goes on, long live the Constitution and Freedom!

[RustyJohn]

Don't know if I trust Barr, but I will likely write Paul in in November- despite the zero press that he is getting he continues to pick up delegates in the caucus states- seems McCain's octogenarian supporters aren't showing up for county and state conventions or turning in early for Matlock leaving the young Paul supporters to elect their delegates to the state/national conventions.

[Ron H.]

Why does McCain get a "pass" on ripping off the American Public $30 Billion Dollars as a member of the KEATING 5 in the Savings & Loan Scandal? "It was a long time ago" most people say, so he gets a pass...and even gets endorsed by the press, after NUMEROUS hearings in front of the Senate Ethics Committee, for questionable tactics. He was corrupt then, but he's fine now, is that it? I guess O.J. gets a pass since that was a long time ago too. Bob Barr gets my republican vote if Dr. Paul endorses him.

[Tominellay]

Andrew, you'll be as notorious a reporter as T.J. Simers one day...Dr. Paul is your grocery bagger; he's not going away...

(We'll be here if he doesn't.)

[DX10]

He**, I have been asking the Paul campaign to give us some direction for voting in the general so long that I finally pissed Lew Rockwell off. Then he pissed me off in return. If it is going to be Barr, then fine. Just do SOMETHING for Pete's sake! With a little leadership we can make a statement if nothing else.

[Sally Falk]

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[John]

Ron Paul and Bob Barr in 2008! That's the ticket!

[Scott Frost]

I hope that Bob Barr does announce his candidacy.

Someone above mentioned that Barr used to be a drug warrior. That's true, but he has had a very sincere change of heart, which I am certain he will explain. Bob Barr regrets some of the legislation that he sponsored and voted for when in Congress. He now lobbies for the Marijuana Policy Project, for example. My understanding is that he came to the realization that you cannot promote freedom on some issues and not others and expect freedom to survive.

Some people express confusion over the probable support of Bob Barr by Ron Paul. Perhaps some people are a little too attached to party labels. I don't know. The important point is that Bob Barr and Ron Paul are almost identical philosophically.

Attempting to reform the Republican party from within is a noble cause, but it is also an exercise in swimming against the current. The Libertarian party shares the principles of most Ron Paul supporters much more closely than the Republican party does -- and it is waiting with open arms. The Republicans reject the Ron Paul revolutionaries at their own peril. (And believe me, there's a lot of rejection going on!)

I have decided to work solely within the Libertarian party from now on. Bob Barr is my choice for the Libertarian nomination.

I agree with the person who wrote that the Constitution party and the Libertarian party should work together. They disagree on a few things, but their differences are minor compared to their shared principles.

Ron Paul supporters who have felt like their movement was stalled out without a candidate just need to be a little patient. There will be plenty of work to do in the coming months.

The Libertarian party's National Convention is May 22nd - 26th.

Much of it airs on C-SPAN. This year's convention should be covered by the mainstream media much more than in years past. This is not a typical election cycle.

And, please, do not assume that the Libertarian party's candidate will only get the votes of disaffecteed conservatives. Pro-peace, anti-drug war, pro-civil liberties voters who traditionally vote Democrat or Green party may very well jump in. The Ron Paul revolution may be about to really hit its stride. The Ron Paul campaign did not gain steam fast enough. It caught on too late and the primaries were too early. That's not a problem for a Barr campaign.

The question is: will the Ron Paul supporters make the same effort for Bob Barr? If so, he might pull off an amazing upset victory in a three- or four-way race.

This is going to get very, very interesting.

[Richard Harris]

If Barr disavows the "Moral Majority" and its' principals; I would vote for him.
I would never support ANY candidate of ANY party that sells its' soul to religious bigots.

[Freddie L]

Uh........NO.......I don;t think so.......but nice try! Ron Paul is Ron Paul. This Barr person is not going to be able to ride on his shirt tails just because he wants to. RP has "earned" his followers with his consistant stand for the freedoms and liberties of all Americans. "Rots ' a Ruck", Mr. Barr, but this RP supporter is not going to vote for you. The LP party needs to give this one a rest. If RP should ever decide to run 3rd party, then you may have something to get excited about. Anything shy of that is .....well.....just not gonna happen. Sorry

[Scott Frost]

So, Freddie L -- am I to understand that you will only vote for freedom if the person advocating it is named "Ron Paul?"

[Scott Frost]

I think it is worth pointing out that Bob Barr would not be "riding on Ron Paul's coattails" just because "he wants to." He may very well be riding on Ron Paul's coattails because Ron Paul wants him to. They are friends, after all, and they share the same principles.

[April Showers]

Wow some people certainly sway easily in the breeze huh? Every time another name is thrown out in the wind some just grab at it. I really enjoy that some say we are "paultards". I beg to differ who has the bigger brow ridge and short attention span.

[fahma]

Has anyone ever told you how the Libertarian Party plans to transition from the present foul political and government system to their version of utopia?

I've asked numerous Libertarians and have not been answered.

And have they ever told you how they can change American Corporations' behavior from employee-hating to employee-loving? We should trust all corporations because they need their employees, therefore they'll treat them right? Come on, my Fellow Americans. Look at our Corporate history.

I believe the Ron Paul Libertarians are following the Jim Jones model, and have not yet explained how Libertarians would really govern.

And Bob Barr? "Politics-trumps-the-Constitution-Bob-Barr"? Authoritarian Party maybe. But not Libertarian.

[Keith]

So the Paulites will now become Barrticles?

As for the wiccan in the military thing, if that doesn't define a Paulite I don't know what does. A bunch of crackPauts.

[Ron Paul]

Soft Revolution now, HARD REVOLUTION LATER

[Rockefellee]

I am an avid Ron Paul supporter of both the man, but even more so, the ideals. But I am SORRY, RP is no Lbertatrian. He's as conservative as conservative can get! He has strict principles, unlike how I feel the Libertarians "ive and let live" mantra flows through their party like blood in our veins. Everytime I see Dr. Paul referred to as a "libertarian", it honestly makes me wanna scream. RP is a constitutionalist CONSERVATIVE...PERIOD, and that's why I love the guy so much...

[Marc Scott Emery]

I'll be supporting Mike Gravel for the Libertarian nomination until I hear Bob Barr categorically state that he will advocate the end of marijuana prohibition. Mike Gravel is articulate on ending the war in Iraq, ending the empire abroad, and ending prohibition at home.

In 1998, I gave $5,000 to the Washington, DC medical marijuana initiative, which passed by 64% in 1998, only to be negated by Congressman Bob Barr's legislation in Congress to forbid the counting of the ballots and implementation of the DC med-pot bill.

So Bob Barr owes me $5,000. I'll forgive the debt if I hear Barr advocate an end to the drug war, and an end to prohibition.

The race is between Barr and Gravel, the rest of the candidates are earnest Libertarian activists but none of them (Rhuwart, Phillies, Kubby, et al) have any significant national profile, however "pure" their Libertarian principles may be.

[patricia]

I can't possibly vote for either Mac Cain Hillary or Obama. For me it's a moral issue.

[Parke]

Mr. Malcolm,

I believe you have blogged more on RP than any other MS writer. Slog was a terrible way to describe Ron Pauls hopeless bid for the white house.

Other than that you hit the nail on the head. We got 12% of the vote in our county in MS. Its not huge numbers, but double digit results arent bad considering the wonderful TV has already crowned McCain the GOP nominee.

We are getting the cold shoulder from the GOP. We have been trying to find the person in charge of the Jackson Co. GOP to no avail.

It amazes me, that a party that is going down in flames doesnt want new faces. Life long Republicans are switching their party to vote Dem. Seeing as how I wear my Ron Paul gear pretty often and live in a HEAVILY Republican area, I get comments about the GOP and Ron Paul all the time. People like him, but because of the STD stigma that comes out of a black box in every home in America that talks about him, they feel defeated before they could cast a vote.

I dont care who Ron Paul votes for. Im voting for who I want. The point alot of people miss about Ron Pauls bid is that its not about Ron Paul. Its about direction. 'Well Id like to suggest there is no left or right, only up or down.'

When the financial meltdown finally happens, and they can no longer shift numbers and inject billions to solve the problem.. Then those honest bankers with their new found powers will march us toward the NAU and Amero in order to 'save' us.

Only this time, at least 800,000 people know the truth about the Fed. I keep wondering at what point will people stand up for America here at home. If those bankers destroy us from inflation, *crap* is going to hit the fan.

Imagine the grandparents that will lose a lifetime of savings. Imagine the children. Imagine our future if we let these bankers have their one world government. Glenn Beck repeatedly said last night, 'Im no conspiracy theorist.'

Neither am I. The most powerful people in the world control the issuance of our currency. Its secretive and has little oversight from Congress. You telling me its not corrupt?

Change is coming whether anybody likes it or not. I hope Americans will unite and take their country back. I dont care if we are in a depression if we are free. We will have a future to look forward with freedom. As the way the law is written now, we are on the path to a dictatorship, soft fascism, or socialism. History repeats itself..

'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies.'

[Jay]

Good for America,

Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank and throw the thieves that have been robbing America.

[Dr Ward Ciac II]

Hey, the good thing is, it's as easy to shout Bob Barr over and over at rallies as it is Ron Paul:

Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul!

Bob Barr! Bob Barr! Bob Barr! Bob Barr!

[Carol]

I am undecided about Bob Barr at present, mainly because he seems still to be a student of libertarianism, and not sufficiently versed to form his own opinions from its precepts. For instance, he says that when he is undecided as to what position to take, he looks to Ron Paul for the correct answer. That's wonderful, but that being the case, maybe we could all just look to Ron Paul...

I am sorta willing to cut Barr some slack for past inconsistency, since he is still a student.... I find that when I have conservative and liberal minded friends take the Nolan Chart quiz, they often come up more libertarian than they had ever imagined. When they see themselves on the graph -- and I walk them through connecting the dots of economic and personal freedom -- more consistency follows.

To his credit, Barr has great name recognition and conservatives like him. Sounder philosophical libertarians may still lack the recognition needed for serious inroads this fall.. Hmmm.

[Carol]

Rockafellee:

Being a libertarian doesn't mean you don't have strong principles or don't think certain things are right and certain things are wrong. It means that you don't believe in the government choosing your principles for you....

So yeah, Ron Paul IS very conservative in the areas that conservatives deplore big government. But in the areas that conservatives want the government to intervene and legislate, he is not conservative -- even though he might personally apply the principle to his own life -- such as not using drugs himself even though he favors legalization.

Does that make sense...?

[Steve]

I would like to say to the idiot who said Ron Paul was a shame to Texans...if that is the case..how come Paul DESTROYED Chris Peden in his Congressional primary 72% to 28%?

All this after Peden got HUGE support from local media, and form Bush aides.

Paul is the REAL conservative in this race. As a Ron Paul supporter, I have NO PROBLEM voting for Bob Barr! Especially if Paul endorses him.

[Ben Straub]

If Ron Paul is endorsing him. He has my vote.

[Peter]

Bob Barr.

Isn't that the guy who use to host "The Price Is Right"?

[Steve Grycel]

Alright Andrew! It's always a pleasure reading your editorials. It makes me smile to see at least one MSM employee tell the truth. Kudos to you!

(Well, aren't you an intelligent fellow? Yes, you are. Hard to think of online as msm. But whatever you say after that. Welcome back!)_

[ron moss]

Thanks Brad for the diagram to restore the constitution.
For several reasons we need to backup the deal made between the states and their agent, the Federal Govern-
ment. It needs to again serve its citizens. as agreed.