LA Times editorial board endorses McCain and Obama
The Editorial Board of The Los Angeles Times has just announced that it will endorse Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama for the Republican and Democratic party nominations, respectively.
The editorials making the announcements will be published in Sunday's editions of the newspaper, the first copies of which become available Saturday.
In its editorial on McCain, the Board, which is headed by Publisher David Hiller and is a totally separate body from the news-gathering side of the newspaper, said it did not agree with McCain on several important issues, such as gay rights and abortion. But it added, "the Arizona senator's conservatism is, if not always to our liking, at least genuine. It reflects his fundamental individualism, spanning his distrust of big government, his support for immigration reform and his insistence on a sound American foreign policy."
It also noted its disagreement with McCain on soldiering on in Iraq. But noted: "we welcome his insistence that America's military posture be matched by its moral purpose. Alone among the Republican candidates, he would close the detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, which has become an international symbol of American U.S. arrogance. He has waged a principled and persistent effort to end the Bush administration's embrace of torture as a weapon of war, a frightening concession to terrorism and an abdication of basic American values."
The editorial praised his commitment to free trade, combating legislative earmarks and pushing his party to accept and combat global warming. It said he is "clear-eyed" about the imperiled futures of Social Security and Medicare. But it added that McCain is not the only impressive Republican in the race and went on to praise Mitt Romney "as a vigorous and articulate alternative."
"We appreciate his analytical skills," the editorial notes, "as well as his distinguished record as governor of Massachusetts, where he pioneered healthcare reform and demonstrated leadership with his willingness to cross party lines for progress. But Romney has spent so much effort to convince Republicans he's one of them that he has called his most basic values into question."
It called Mike Huckabee "a good-natured man with an admirable record as governor of Arkansas" who has allowed his Christian fundamentalism to so infuse "his secular views that he has drifted to the margins of the campaign."
Concluding, the editorial adds, "We do not agree with John McCain on every issue. But we admire his conviction and stand with him on those that matter most right now."
On the Democratic side the editorial board "strongly endorsed" Obama, admitting there are two strong candidates but adding it's not difficult to choose between them.
It calls Obama "an inspiring leader who cuts through typical internecine campaign bickering and appeals to Americans long weary of divisive and destructive politics." It notes that Hillary Clinton is "an accomplished public servant" whose election would provide familiarity but that she failed a test of judgment and leadership by voting for the iraq war and then accusing President Bush of abusing the authority she helped give him.
Obama, the editorial says, "demonstrates as well that he is open-eyed about the terrorist threat posed to the nation, and would not shrink from military action where it is warranted. He does not oppose all wars, he has famously stated, but rather dumb wars. He also has the edge in economic policy, less because of particular planks in his platform than in his understanding that some liberal orthodoxies developed over the last 40 years have been overtaken by history. He offers leadership on education, technology policy and environmental protection unfettered by positions taken by previous administrations."
The editorial concludes: "Obama's candidacy offers the Democrats the best hope of leading America into the future, and gives Californians the opportunity to cast their most exciting and consequential ballot in a generation. Clinton would be a valuable and competent understudy, but Obama matches her in substance and adds something that the nation has been missing for far too long -- a sense of aspiration."
--Andrew Malcolm
Photo credits:
John McCain: Kathy Willens / Associated Press
Barack Obama: Charles Rex Arbogast / Associated Press








are you serious. Thanks you just gave the election to the repubicans. how any one can support someone that is not experience to run this country is crazy. We already had a learn on the job president for the past 7 years and he even had more experience being a govenor. This paper has some serious problems.
(ATTN: All supporters of those NOT endorsed by the LA Times Editorial Board--If you have a comment on blog items, do leave them here. If you disagree with the Board's choice, pls address your concerns to letters@latimes.com. That's the Editorial Board, which is separate from the rest of the paper and the entire website. The choice was made by its members in consultation with the publisher, not Chicago. Thanks for reading. P.S. The same goes for those happy with the endorsements.)
Posted by: jennifer | February 01, 2008 at 02:10 PM
I'm voting for Obama, but I honestly thought you guys were going to come out for Clinton.
Woah.
I think my whole world existence just slipped off it's axis.
Posted by: Chicka | February 01, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Was the decision made by your Chicago Tribune bosses?
(See answer to top comment.)
Posted by: hanksf | February 01, 2008 at 02:25 PM
BEWARE !!!!
TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE FRIENDS OR RELATIVES THAT ARE ILLEGAL!
CLINTON OPPOSES ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVER'S LICENCE!
IF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT GIVEN DRIVER'S LICENCES THEY WILL BE FORCED
TO BREAK THE LAW!
AND SINCE IT IS A CRIME TO BREAK THE LAW, IF CAUGHT YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM
A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP!
THIS WILL FOREVER BAN YOU FROM BEING A U.S. CITIZEN!
THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DEPORT YOU!
OBAMA BELIEVES THAT THOSE WHO BLAME IMMIGRANTS FOR JOB LOSSES AND LOW WAGES
ARE USING LATINOS AS SCAPEGOATS. CLINTON ON THE OTHER HAND BELIEVES THAT LATINOS ARE
IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR JOB LOSSES AND LOW WAGES.
OBVIOUSLY OBAMA IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR LATINOS IF YOU WANT TO STOP THE BLAME ON LATINOS!
SAY NO TO THE SCAPEGOATING!
SI SE PUEDE! SI SE PUEDE! SI SE PUEDE!
Posted by: SeniorMoreno | February 01, 2008 at 02:35 PM
I don't understand how anyone can endorse McCain given his history of Keating 5, Black Mesa and pandering to the anti-American reconquesta wing of the Mexican nationalist/illegal immigration lobby. Give me a break. You should take a closer look at (1) the company John McCain keeps and (2) his actual track record (vs. the media-spun package he tries to sell us).
If you want America to stay strong and not sell it out to McCain's buddy Juan Hernandez, then I suggest you vote Romney. No one else can stop McCain from selling out America. Once again, if you are a Republican, vote Romney.
If somehow, the media gives McCain the nomination, as it seems intent on doing, then vote for any Democrat opposing him. The nation deserves someone who will stand up for the American people first -- John McCain has not done that in a couple of decades and will not do that as president. He is the most corrupt creature of Washington in this campaign.
(See response to top comment pls.)
Posted by: BGurl | February 01, 2008 at 02:43 PM
WAY TO GO LA TIMES! GO OBAMA 2008!
And why can't we comment here? Isn't that what this "comment" section is for? We comment and dont write private emails because we want to be heard...
(Obviously, you can comment. You just did. But if those who are unhappy with the choices want their thoughts heard by the people who made those choices, they should use that letters address.)
Posted by: whorse | February 01, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Are you serious?! Obama?! I don't think so. I'll take experience and results any day over hype, therefore I'm supporting Clinton. And my previously high opinion of the LA Times has just gone down...a lot. Surely you're not serious...
Posted by: LinuxRocks | February 01, 2008 at 02:57 PM
You've got to be kidding me. If there isn't a teleprompter around or prepared statement they guy can't talk. Hoping doesn't accomplish much. You must perform. He's too much like Bush in his style - build a team around you that tells YOU what to do instead of being a leader you're just a talking head.
The voters once again will speak -- California will be delivered to HRC.
Posted by: spdubois, Oakland, CA | February 01, 2008 at 02:58 PM
You made the right choice in endorsing Sen. Obama.
Sen. Clinton displayed remarkably poor judgment in her two most important decisions: when she was charged with developing her husband's health care plan and in her vote for the catastrophic Iraq War. Twenty-three senators had the good sense not to support the war, but she was not one of them. Hillary Clinton is indirectly responsible for the (predictable) deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Is that the kind of leadership we need?
Posted by: John | February 01, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Mr. Moreno, being a white person, I never even thought of the lisence / breaking the law factor...Good point! The Clintons are big-time corperate dems...Hillary earned about 100,000k serving as a non functional on the board of wall mart...she says she was there to promote wage increases and womens rights. Do a fact check on that! She did nothing! Another point, why does'nt anyone call on her on the following when she touts about "the fabulous Clinton years" The Clinton's have been huge supporters of Bush's and the Neocon's view of NEW WORLD ORDER. Clinton passed NAFTA. Nafta has proven to be probably the single most contributing factor of job losses in America, let alone how it has almost wiped out Mexican farmers! Ask yourself why Rupert Merdock sponsored a fund raising event for Hillary...ask yourself why big corps love the Billary!!! And what about Bill's brokering of a uranium deal with the president of Kazahkstan and his Canadian friend Frank Guistra in 2005? He received $131,000,000 for it and is now denying any wrong-doing after trying to keep it a secret for these last two years. More of the same from the Clintons and we're doomed for more of the same if they get into the White house again.
Please look into these facts. Shelly 2005?
Posted by: Shelly Caldeira | February 01, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Pathetic endorsement for an unqualified candidate. So sad. Wake up America! Are we really going to put someone up against McCain who hasn't even served a full term in the Senate? Hello???!!!
Posted by: Jennifer | February 01, 2008 at 03:08 PM
O.K. Hillary doesn't get the endoresement because she supported the Iraq War, but John McCain not only supported the War but doesn't mind if we're bogged down there for 100 years. As usual the men will prevail.
Posted by: Yoli Pastrana | February 01, 2008 at 03:13 PM
How could any moderates and liberals backs war monger McCain. McCain wants to bomb Iran and stay in Iraq for 100 years and promised for more wars. McCain says he wants interest rates to be ZERO out of complete ignorance for how interest rates affect the economy. I'd like to see him say that to retirees on a fixed income. McCain want 10 million illegal immigrants to stay permanently and legal immigrants who can vote do not support it. How could this country be secure if he is in power??? If McCain is nominee, as a republican I would rather vote Clinton than McCain. As least we know Clinton has some intelligence and lead the booming economic. McCain will lead this country to a total ruin with his lack of intelligence and no executive experience. Mitt Romney is an expert in economics and finance and is the man we need as president.
Posted by: linda | February 01, 2008 at 03:17 PM
After 34 years, bet that Presidential endorsement process felt good!
Obama has received newspaper honors from up and down the Pacific Coast!
Seattle Times
Oregan Herald
San Jose Mercury News
Sacramento Bee
San Fransisco Chronicle
LA Times
Obama doesn't carry the past with him, like Hillary does. It's good, not to have a legacy in government. Many people don't want to repeat Clintons in the White House. Opinions aren't putting down Hillary's gender!
It's simply the Clinton name. We repeated with Bush's and it hasn't turned out well. She decides what Bill's role will be?
America is deciding the First Lad is not the right role for a former President. It's too undefinable what Bill was going to do. Many don't want Bill dealing with White House policy ever again.
The world is watching America. Can we go forward and not repeat the past?
No matter the experience, George H. and George W. failed in many ways as Presidents. It's hope all the time, when we elect them. Bill had his own personal failure issues and didn't solve them while being President!
Bill's personal problems affected Congress having poor confidence in him.
Posted by: Marks | February 01, 2008 at 03:18 PM
Great job LA Times!! Ant to spdubois, Barack is within 3 of HRC your beloved candidate. He is gaining an average of 3 points a day. Do the math. And he doesn't have towin, just come close. He made up a deficit of 17 points in 2 weeks in Connecticut.
By the way, what experience does HRC have? She can't even campaign on her own. She relies on her husband.
Yes. We. Can. Go Obama!!!!!
We don't need the same two elite families running our country for over twenty years. That is NOT democracy.
Posted by: Barbara | February 01, 2008 at 03:21 PM
MCCAIN’S CANES
Bob Dole (at 73) was constantly labeled too old to run against Bill Clinton in 1996 and age is NEVER mentioned (at least yet) as a factor with McCain who’s 72. John McCain’s candidacy was dead and buried until a few weeks before the NH primary due to incompetent staff, mismanagement and lack of money. McCain himself admits that he’s not well versed on economics...and voters are somehow convinced that this man can oversee the country’s economy better than a highly successful private sector businessman like Mitt Romney?
Strip away John McCain’s 40 year ago military experience, which we’re NEVER allowed to forget about or question (it’s just about ALL he ever references in speeches and debates no matter what question he’s asked), and you have nothing but a tired, old, empty suited, Washington, D.C. political hack/insider. He is an extremely weak candidate and a terrible debater by every account, especially compared to Mitt Romney (or even Huckabee).
Without the assistance of his “Canes” propping him up during this farce of a campaign, John McCain candidacy would still be dead and buried. Day after day, the canes come out of the political woodwork to endorse ol’ RINO (Republican In Name Only) Johnny.
MCCAIN’S CANE # 1...the Liberal biased Main Stream Media and Press. With orgasmic puff story after puff story, it resurrected McCain from the dead, elevating him to frontrunner status just in time for the election.
MCCAIN’S CANE # 2...Independent and Democrat voters, who, for some bizarre reason, are allowed to vote in the REPUBLICAN primaries. I’d LOVE to meet the rocket scientists in those states who allow THAT to happen.
In Florida, Mitt Romney was gathering tremendous momentum and soaring in the polls until the weekend before the election.
MCCAIN’S CANE # 3...Florida Governor Crist who endorsed McCain just TWO days before the election.. Unfortunately, it was enough to convince a woefully uninformed voting public to vote for McCain and against Romney who was soaring in the polls until that moment. While this was bad enough, the fact that so many thousands of Floridians had to be TOLD who to vote just TWO days before such an important election was despicable, shameful, if not downright scary.
MCCAIN’S CANE # 4...Rudy Guiliani, who ends his “campaign” with an endorsement of, who else but John McCain hours before the California debate. Even with THAT, McCain who always been a terrible debater, was crushed by Mitt Romney at every turn...imagine what Obama would to to him?
MCCAIN’S CANE # 5...California Governor, Arnold Schwartzenager who now is endorsing old Johnny just before the Super Tuesday primaries.
If John McCain is the Republican nominee (heaven forbid), it will be done SOLELY with his the assistance of his canes and without them he is nearly helpless and will be easily defeated by either Hillary Clinton or upstart, or half-McCain’s-age, 36 year old Barack Hussein Obama.
Mitt Romney is by far the most qualified man in EITHER party and is a class act all the way. And yet since he became a GOP candidate for president, I have seen nothing but negative, trivial articles/stories about his Mormon religion, his money, his slick appearance, etc, all fully intended to sway a naive electorate that pays far too little attention to the most important 4 year event in our country.
Mitt Romney is a TRUE family man and very successful at turning failed or failing enterprises around and Lord knows the United States of America needs turning around. It should be run as a business first, with a strong military to protect it from harm. All other social, giveaway programs should be scrutinized (and certainly would be under a Romney presidency) as to efficiency and even necessity. The fact that he was even elected Governor in a state (MA) controlled by 85% Democrat legislature was a feat in itself. In spite of it, he did a very admirable job as Governor, turning a large state deficit into a surplus. Of course, his many justified vetoes were constantly overturned by those liberal Democrats which made for a lot of frustration.
If Mitt Romney does get the GOP nomination it will be MUCH to the chagrin of the Democrat National Committee liberal propaganda machine because he will be their worst nightmare and most difficult to defeat...Obama, Clinton, or otherwise.
John McCain’s time has long since come and gone and it has become more than obvious during this primary campaign that he doesn’t even have the ability to WALK up the White House “stairs” without his “Canes”, let alone RUN the biggest economy and country in the world.
The power of the internet is incredible...use it! Email ANY and EVERYONE you know who will be voting on Tuesday and let them know just how disasterous it would be to vote for McCain. Educate them as to why and turn them on to Mitt Romney. I've met him on several occasions and was at the MA Rep. convention when we nominated him for Governor there. Put some links in your emails to this GREAT ad from Citizen's United: http://media.citizensunited.org/Surprisingly.htm. It's a killer for McCain. Tell them to get on the Romney bandwagon and help the guy out at: http://www.mittromney.com. Besides emails, you can make phone calls AND write/submit letters to editors online and at major metropolitan newspapers http://www.newslink.org/news.html around the country.
Posted by: mrunpc | February 01, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Hillary is woman, and that would be great, but she's the WRONG woman.
Obama is the future, black or while, man or woman, he is the future.
Thank you LA Times, I hope your endorsement makes the difference!
Posted by: Barry Scott | February 01, 2008 at 03:40 PM
OBAMA
With some of the presidential candidate’s religions being scrutinized (only on the Republican side, of course) I think it only fair to do a little shedding of light of same on the Democrat side, don't you? So, let's see...How about Mr. Obama?
Indeed, if ANYONE’S religion should be micro-analyzed, it is Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Oh, didn’t any of you realize that his middle name is Hussein? No? Then I’ll bet you didn’t know that his FIRST name, Barack, stands for “blessed one” in Arabic...and even better yet, it is taken directly from, you guessed it, the KORAN! What a revelation! Well, then, let’s continue, shall we?
Barack Hussein Obama’s FATHER was, in FACT, a RADICAL AFRICAN MUSLIM who abandoned his wife and little Barack (nice guy, eh?). The young Mr. Obama is known to have grown up and remained a Muslim until at LEAST the age of 25! Today however, he claims to be a Christian! Would anyone care to provide proof of when, where, why, and how he shed his Muslim religion for Christianity? Has ANYONE EVER heard of ANY Muslim converting from the Muslim faith to, of all things, Christianity? Does anyone know ANY Muslim who is not a Muslim for LIFE?
By the way, I recommend checking out Mr. Obama's "church" by visiting the United Church of Christ's website at http://www.tucc.org/about.htm. It should be an insult to any Christian that this racist organization is allowed to cloak itself in the name. All references, etc. are made to Africa/Africans with none to America or Americans. Gee, I seem to recall another "organization" that cloaks itself in the name of the Muslim religion...some name like Al Queda or some such.
If Mr. Obama is such a Christian, why on earth does he choose to keep his MUSLIM name? If Cassius Clay could change his name to Muhammed Ali in his embracement of the Muslim faith, then how come Mr. Obama never did the same in his conversion to Christianity...hmmmm? How about Barry Alabama? Now, THERE'S a nice Christian name right out of the bible belt, don't you think?
Just thought I’d bring up these interesting little tidbits...after all, if the religious anal exam can be done so relentlessly to Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, it can certainly be done with Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. After all, what’s fair is fair, right? Of course, I won’t hold my breath waiting for the Democrat Party Liberal propaganda machine (aka: main stream press) to do the same. After all, it just isn’t in their ultra biased interest.
Posted by: MrUNPC | February 01, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Regarding Governor Huckabee, Anyone could access the University of Arkansas Poll that reflects the OUTSTANDING record of the Governor for his 10.5 years execuetive experience. Anyone could research the educational stats that moved Arkansas from 49th in the nation uo to 8th in the nation. Anyone could research the Governor's ARKids health program that provided health care for the children of Arkansas. Anyone could find how dramatically the infrastructure of AR was improved for the citizens during the Governor's tenure. Anyone could find that Governor Huckabee was ELECTED by his PEERS to chair the NATIONAL GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION. None of these "respectable" accomplishments would have been possible if the Governor had used his PUBLIC OFFICE as a pulpit.
The media's portrayal that Governor Huckabee is just a Christian candidate IS JUST WISHFUL THINKING ON THEIR PART. Don't wait for these guys to tell you - find out the truth for yourself. www.mikehuckabee.com
Posted by: mrs.coyle | February 01, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Although being a German and not able to vote in the US, I am really surprised by the LATimes endorsement.
Never before in my 58 years lasting time has the Primeries in USA been so exiting for me and has make me interesting as to read a major newpapers every day. Up to today I was sometimes upset by somments made by the LAT normaly in favour of HRC. Why? When I four months ago watched first time Obama on TV, I was so impressed that I could not believe, why HRC, with her and her husband's stories, was topping the pools in US.
After IOWA it was as clear to me as today, that he will be the best choice the USA, the Western World and also the Arabic World could get.
HRC want to be President for herself, Obama for the American people.
I don't believe in the stories that a President must have the long time White House experience, because the administration is huge and everybody having a little bit more sence than GWB is a better one.
Anyway, I was surprised and hopefully will be surprised, when the NYT will change their endorsement too.................
Would be glad to see a similar person in Germany than BO!!
Posted by: sieweke hubert | February 01, 2008 at 03:45 PM
I am very happy the LA Times endorsed Sen. Obama.
Hillary is a good senator and very competent but, after the past month, you know there are going to be major problems with Bill. His out of control behavior, he would never be able to leave things alone and up to his wife. It would be a circus.
If hillary was by herself, I think she would be a very good choice.
That said, after what I have witnessed the past 30 years, we need Barack Obama to be president. The steady downward spiral of our politics, our society and our country is alarming. Even the angry rants by Hillary's supporters here because they are disappointed. Where is all this anger and hate coming from?
It is so typical of what is going on in Washington and why nothing is getting done or being taken care of.
As for experience, Obama has 10 years as a constitutional scholar, 8 as a state senator and 3 as a US Senator. Also the fact that he put this incredible grassroots organization together in a year and can rival the 20 year machine of the Clintons, shows skills in running complex organizations and build a formidable coalition.
The fact that he was the president of the Harvard Law Review shows someone who has a brilliant mind.
This is a man for our time and what the country desperately needs right now.
Posted by: vwcat | February 01, 2008 at 04:05 PM
I am happy that Hillary and Obama backed off the nastiness in last night's debate. I would be happy with either one as president. Either of them would be a better president than any of the Republicans. I respect McCain, but he's too old and his positions on many issues are just wrong (e.g., Iraq). Romney and Huckabee would be disasters. One is a religious wingnut and the other is a sanctimonious slime. My dream ticket is Clinton & Obama. Eight years of Clinton and eight of Obama and we might be able to repair most of the damage caused by Bush/Cheney Inc.
Posted by: Michael | February 01, 2008 at 04:09 PM
I couldn't help but notice that the Times didn't even mention Ron Paul in the McCain article despite mentioning the other 2 Republican contenders. I guess this makes sense, if they had realized Dr. Paul was running they would endorse him. I await their retraction.
To qualify for getting my comment posted, I think Obama is the correct choice for Democrats. He's right on Civil Liberties and he was right on the war from the start, unlike Hillary who sold her vote to President Bush. Twice.
Posted by: Nash | February 01, 2008 at 04:27 PM
IS ANYONE SURPRISED?LA TIMES ENDORSES TWO HARD CORE LIBERALS! BIG DEAL.
Posted by: twister61 | February 01, 2008 at 04:28 PM
bravo! for obama
independent voter
Posted by: gallo146 | February 01, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Please, LA Times, stop calling me to beg for subscription. I have cancelled my subscription and will tell all my friends to do same! It is shameful that you would endorse Obama who has no US Senate experience.
(Not us calling ou. Not us endorsing anyone. Pls direct your complaints elsewhere as suggested at the top. Thanks for stopping by.)
Posted by: Azi | February 01, 2008 at 04:57 PM
They are my top two, too. Although I'm voting as a Democrat...and I'm a first time voter at the age of 35. I would have voted for Clinton the first time around but in due time, as an Economics major I realized that he's taking credit for the results of the Republican's (yes, Bush Sr's) tax increases. If Hillary loved the US so much and was so concerned about the budget then why did she vote to give the not so bright Bush power to bring our country into war with a blank check? And, did she consult with Bill before she placed her vote?
Posted by: rochelle | February 01, 2008 at 05:09 PM
And how does the newspaper which has fired more of its newsroom staff than any other paper in California expect us to respect its endorsements?
NOBAMA
NOOPRAH
NOMCCAIN
(And still has more newsroom folks than any other including us turning out this indispensable blog and not endorsing anyone. Plus we're free. And worth every penny.)
Posted by: Harvey | February 01, 2008 at 05:09 PM
as far as past experience goes...look back at the early days of the presidency before it was bogged down with rich candidates with mobility...did they all have the same degree of experience? i'm not a fan of sadam but in one of his interviews he laughed at how we chose our leaders. he said it takes more than 4 years to learn that job. but, look at how the recent second term presidents ran their presidencies. i said bush 2 wasn't so bright but i have to admit that if he hadn't staged a war then he wouldn't have been elected (by electoral college) the second time around.
Posted by: rochelle | February 01, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Not to sorta beat people with the "obvious" stick but,
The reason McCain is being picked (even if he supported the war), is that because the LA Times decided on endorsements for the primary election - THEY HAD TO PICK ONE OF EACH PARTY, see. Then in the general election, they pick just one, see.
Sooooo, ergo, even if McCain did support the war, the LA Times listed the other qualifications they used to pick him, which are listed in the endorsement.
Please *read* the actual endorsements, before posting something like "OMG YOU VOTED 4 MUSLIM SATAN! U H8 GIRLZ!"
It just makes the rest of us look stupid.
Posted by: Uhhhhh | February 01, 2008 at 05:27 PM
I applaud the Times' support of Obama over the Clinton franchise. Obama may need it in California as the LA mayor is secretly brokering a deal to get a big Hispanic turnout for Clinton. My question for the mayor is: What do you get out of it? The Clintons never do anthing that isn't generously self-selving. The mayor should know this by now. I guess this says a lot about the mayor!
Posted by: Stephen Dolle | February 01, 2008 at 06:18 PM
LA Times used to be a good nepspaper before arab petrodollars bought it!
How can LA Times support someone that is an international superterrorist like osama obama?
osama obama's and his family involment in terrorist activities in Kenya, indonesia and Darfur should warrant an arrest and not an endorsment!
osama obama is not black, he is an arab like gaddafi!
osama obama is no christian,but a muslim spying openly on christians. barack is a muslim name!
Burning of churches and black people by his family in Kenya shows what kind of change USA is in for!
Posted by: chris | February 01, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Oh Jennifer, Azi, and all HRC fans for that matter:
John McCain has more experience than Hillary, so would you then vote for McCain in a match-up against HRC? I didn't think so. And why not? Because so-called "experience" isn't all that matters, right? I thought not. Try to come up with some other excuse for not voting for Obama.
And don't think McCain and the Republicans wouldn't turn around and use Hillary's "experience" fixation against her. How short-sighted of her and you. Obama has a clear, consistent message of change, principle, and pragmatism that can't be used against him, unlike HRC. She would be a disaster for the Democrats.
Posted by: maxwell | February 01, 2008 at 07:30 PM
Is there anywhere you can legally bet on super Tuesdays results? If so, bet you're (rapidly declining in value) house on Hillary. When it comes time to cast the votes (in the PRIVACY of a voting booth), Clinton wins big. The only states that will support Obama are in flyover country and the deep south.
Posted by: smokey | February 01, 2008 at 07:42 PM
Oh wow - like am I seeing what I am seeing? I so thought you guys were going to go for Hillary. Well done, right decision - there will be no regrets. I've got a feeling that Barack is going to be one of the greatest Presidents the US has seen. Him being African American will be a small side note to the sheer intelligence, judgment, wisdom and inspiration that he will give America as a leader. What a way to follow on from one of the worst Presidents eh?
Posted by: Jocee | February 01, 2008 at 08:20 PM
IT IS TO BAD YOU ENDORSED OBAMA, HILLARY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE. OBAMA HAVING TIES TO REZKO, AND HELP FROM THE MAN BUYING HIS HOUSE MAKES HIM NO DIFFERENT THEN CLINTON. HILLARY IS PREPARED TO LEAD FROM DAY ONE. WOMEN UNITE THERE ARE MORE OF US THEN MEN. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR CANDIDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS FOR THE COMMENT ABOVE, IF YOU ARE HERE ILLEGALLY NO MATTER WHAT NATIONALALITY THEN YOU ARE A CRIMINAL. THAT IS WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS. YOU MAY NEED SOME MORE EDUCATION. HILLARY WANTS ALL ILLEGALS TO BE LEGAL. HAVING A DRIVERS LISCENSE IS ILLEGAL FOR AND ILLEGAL TO HAVE. DRIVING IS A PRIVILEGDE. OBAMA STAMMERED AND STUDDERED LAST NIGHT. HE IS GETTING WORSE AT EVERY DEBATE HE IS IN. HE FAILS ON HEALTH CARE. ALL HE CAN SAY IS CHANGE. IM A LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT AND IF HE GETS THE NOMINATION I WONT BE VOTING FOR HIM. HE'S A LOSER. GO HILLARY GO WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: melody, Snohomish, wa | February 01, 2008 at 08:25 PM
VIVA HILLARY!!!!!!! SI SE PUEDE!!!!!!!VIVA LAS MUJERES!!!!!!!
Posted by: Victotia | February 01, 2008 at 09:39 PM
SeniorMoreno: Turn off the caps. We can hear you without all the yelling. You can say a lot of things about HRC, but one of the things you cannot truthfully say is that her immigration plan would block a path to citizenship for people that were not granted a drivers license. HRC believes in comprehensive immigration reform and providing a path the citizenship.
Also, I notice you used the phrase "si se puede." As most of us know that chant is the battle cry of the UFW. You might like to know that HRC was endorsed by Dolores Huerta and the UFW. Certainly she would never have gotten those endorsements or many others if she wasn't a friend of Latinos.
Posted by: Jenna | February 01, 2008 at 10:07 PM
I do not think HIllary has handled her campaign gracefully. In the beginning I was torn between Obama and Hillary. Both are great candidates and I admit I think it would be great to have the first minority president, be it a racial or gender minority. Then the criticism came. Hillary attacked Obama because of his experience, when his 11 years in public office as an Illinois and then U.S. Senator beats her 7 years as a U.S. Senator. It was said way back in 2000 that the whole reason she decided to run for the senate was because she had to get some legitimate experience in public office in order to have a chance at the presidency. Then Bill Clinton started attacking Obama and his experience, and my opinion of her sunk lower. Is Hillary running for president, or is Bill? Has Obama used his wife to attack Hillary?
Obama's criticism of Hillary is that she supported the Iraq War in the beginning and then criticized the president for using the very power she gave him, just like McCain! Obama publicly opposed the Iraq War from the very beginning, just as I did. How can I support someone who not only has less experience in public office, but supported the Iraq War when I did not?
Posted by: Paul | February 01, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Mr. Obama will help the all of the poor and middle class - his economic plan is proposing tax cuts for people making less than $100,000 and tax increases for people making more than $200,000.
He also cares about latinos - on May 1, 2006, only 2 senators marched for immigrants' rights - Ted Kennedy in Washington, and Barack Obama in Chicago. Mr. Obama stood up for the latino community when others were afraid.
Some people try to say he has no specifics, but if you want to read specifics of his economic plan for example, go to the link below, and you will see that in the 8 pages there is as more details there than for any other candidate.
http://obama.3cdn.net/738d0e804dc3e21efc_xzvomvy 89.pdf
Vote for the candidate who is for ALL of the people, Barack Obama!
Posted by: Jose' | February 02, 2008 at 08:09 AM
As usual the LA Times gets it wrong. What do we expect when all we've been getting is one sided anti Clinton reporting since the whole primary process began. What ever happened to unbiased reporting and real journalism. Seems Senator Clinton can do nothing right but Senator Obama can do nothing wrong.
Give us a break - change and anti-establishment - look who's endorsing our "golden" boy - Kennedy et al - could you get anymore establishment, "good old boys" politicos. Why is everyone so afraid of the woman? Afraid of the new ideas a woman might bring to the political scene? She certainly couldn't mess it up as much as you "old boys" have.
Posted by: Mona | February 02, 2008 at 08:39 AM
I just canceled this subscription. This endorsement is coming from an editorial board that refused to face reality within it's own cost structure.
Poems don't solve problems, they are read by those with the luxury to do so. Essays provides us with answers and realistic solutions.
The LA Times has done Los Angeles a disservice by supporting lofty unrealistic rhetoric over the opportunity to provide this country with the solution it needs at this point in time.
Posted by: Iggy | February 02, 2008 at 09:20 AM
I am disappointed to see the Times regurgitate the standard drivel on Obama. I think it is imperative that we compare our candidates rhetoric with their records. Obama's soaring, abstract message or post-partisan, unifying politics could not be more at odds with his record. In its annual evaluation of congressional voting records the National Journal just determined that Obama had THE MOST LIBERAL voting record in the Senate in 2007. John Kerry had that distinction in 2004. The last thing that we need is to nominate someone with less than a term in office who voted straight party line and tries to sell himself as something he clearly is not---an independent minded unifer. The coalition that is buying his soaring rhetoric will crumble when they start to evaluate his record. Come on folks, let's get serious!
Senator Clinton's smart policy prescritions reflect her intelligence, experience and hard work.(Obama missed twice as many votes as she did last year). Clinton is campaigning to run a well prepared, competent government---something that is completely aligned with her record. She is the better candidate and that is why she has my vote.
Posted by: Nancy Herman | February 02, 2008 at 09:41 AM
Hillary Clinton President of the United States of America
Posted by: Henry Alvaradp | February 02, 2008 at 10:34 AM
McCain is NOT going to unify the Republican Party. he is a liar!
He has gone on national tv and lied. He has been quoted in the papers and lied.
He can not be trusted.
WE WILL NOT SUPPORT MCCAIN< GOT THAT RNC???
My contacts in the international community think this is hillarious! Here is McCain, a liar, an outspoken liar, being supported by the media, the liberals of his party, and some dems.
Our country has a difficult time in the views of the world, and now, McCain is seeking the Presidency!! What a joke! A liar being supported in the USA!
Don't blame those of us in the Rep. Party for moving over to the Dem side to vote. We want a conservative, moralistic President! When is the RNC going to get it!! We will NOT support McCain.
Posted by: Suan Connolly | February 02, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Hey Chris...
If you have proof that Obama and his family are terrorists and religious/ethnic cleansers - I'm talking more than "oh like his name is like Muslim like so sure!" .....then turn it over to the government and save our country.
Otherwise, shut it.
Posted by: IdiotParade | February 02, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Hey, MrUNPC, my first name is "Patrick," a name from early Roman times (Patricus), which means "nobleman" in Latin. Yet, I don't speak latin!?!?!?! And, I don't worship Apollo and Jupiter!!!
And though I am Christian, I've never even thought of changing my name. You know why not?
Because it would be incredibly stupid, you a**hat.
Posted by: patrick | February 02, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Which candidate would best pass a "lie detector" test? Clinton or Obama? Why guess, when we could know who is the best candidate - for sure. The one with the most honest answers and score would be the nominee.
Posted by: Stephen Dolle | February 02, 2008 at 01:58 PM
On Tuesday, when Hillary wins big in CA and else where, the LA Times editorial board are all going to say to themselves... OMG...WHAT WERE WE THINKING???!!! And then the finger pointing shall begin.
Posted by: KDH55 | February 03, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Let's look at who the Active Military in the USA supports in this election. Donations are from active US Military, Quarter ending Dec. 31, 2007 Federal Elections Commission (FEC).
Anti-Iraq War Candidates:
Ron Paul: $249k
Barack Obama: $76k
Pro-War Candidates
John “Manchurian Candidate” McCain: $83k
Mike “Gomer Pyle” Huckabee: $37k
Mitt “Silver Spoon” Romney: $24k
Hillary “Whitewater” Clinton: $41k
Warmongers aren’t supported by the troops, so why should you support them? Bring all of our troops home now!
Posted by: Dave | February 03, 2008 at 07:59 PM