Breaking News: Romney wins Maine caucus, McCain 2nd, Paul 3rd
Former Gov. Mitt Romney convincingly won the Maine Republican caucus tonight with about 52% of the vote.
The current GOP front-runner, Arizona Sen. John McCain, is running a distant second with 22% and Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-minded longshot, is in a very close third with 19% of the vote. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is trailing badly with only 5%.
With nearly two-thirds of the votes counted, Maine Republican Party Vice Chairman Scott Kauffman said, "It is very sure that former Gov. Romney wins the contest."
Although Maine does not carry the political clout of many other states, it could provide a helpful psychological boost going into nearly two dozen crucial Super Tuesday contests this week for Romney's forces, who lost to McCain in Florida, New Hampshire and South Carolina. Nearly half the delegates necessary to win the Republican nomination will be chosen Tuesday.
In a statement tonight, Romney, who was campaigning today in the upper Midwest after attending the funeral of Gordon Hinckley, the president of the Mormon church, in Salt Lake City, said, "Today the people of Maine joined those from across the nation in casting their vote for conservative change in Washington."
The actual number of Maine delegates he won in the non-binding caucuses will be determined at a state convention in May.
It was a disappointing night for Ron Paul. The campaign of the 72-year-old, 10-term congressman from Texas with the well-financed campaign had hoped to pull an upset in independent-minded Maine. And he did come close to embarrassing McCain for second place, which Paul also won in the Louisiana and Nevada caucuses.
Maine Democrats hold their statewide caucuses next weekend.
-- Andrew Malcolm
If the delegates selected are non-binding its seems the delegates will go where ever the political winds end up in May. So, essentially, the last man standing.
Posted by: Gene | February 02, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Why are you declaring Ron Paul 3rd when only 67% results are in and he is 2% behind McCain. He was acually leading McCain for most of the day so its very possible to predict he will beat McCain when the last 33% of votes are counted.
I think that is not showing a very ethical level of journalism.
(Got nothing to do with ethics. It's reality. He's in 3rd place. Live with it. Two-thirds counted, which we say. If it changes that's new news and we report it. But your hope doesn't make it n ews. Sorry.)
Posted by: Christopher | February 02, 2008 at 08:38 PM
just think where RON PAUL would be if he actually had fair media coverage. his integrity and his platform's appeal need to be known. such an injustice to him and to the citizens of this country. the media has lost so much credibility. i no longer have any respect for them as they have cheated the american people. the greedy corporate elite is responsible for the demise of our once great nation.
Posted by: sherrie | February 02, 2008 at 08:41 PM
When you mean, won the caucus, do you mean won the most delegates or won the popular vote? As a journalist, it would be your duty to point that out.
Posted by: Tony | February 02, 2008 at 08:55 PM
yes Romney is correct, there will be a very conservative change in washington. Status quo for everyone. Good Game.
Posted by: Carl | February 02, 2008 at 09:14 PM
I was slightly disappointed, though the total vote count is not in yet...we could still beat McCain. STILL, you have to realize, here is a candidate (Dr. Paul) who barely gets any free media coverage, to the point where many people thought he dropped out...and yet he crushes Huckabee. Huckabee is gone, outta here, buh-bye.
You see, Dr. Paul has a strategy, and it's working. One by one he's been picking off candidates, and I have a strong feeling McCain is next. I remember when Ron Paul was trailing to Huckabee, the way he's trailing now to McCain.
I'm glad Romney won first...if anything it helps stress that there is still no clear leader in the GOP, which is again, good for Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul is gaining, and tonight was again a great showing. The so-called 'front-runner' McCain almost got beat by Dr. Paul, so this is nothing for us to be disappointed about.
I seriously hope some major networks show Ron Paul because he is really gaining. Thank you Malcolm for the article.
(You're welcome. But that's my job. Thanks for coming here. Hope you do it often.)
Posted by: HN | February 02, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Is it really that disappointing for Dr. Paul though?
Sure, he came in third place. But if you think about it, he received 1 out of 5 votes. That's pretty good for someone that Corporate Media refuses to really report on.
The problem is that people think that their throwing away their vote on Dr. Paul, because they don't believe he would be able to receive the nomination, but it's this mentality that leads to the low support. It's a sad cycle.
Posted by: Raj Tillai | February 02, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Funny how 19 percent of the vote can be construed as "disappointing".
If a candidate is running a campaign of steadily ascending voting returns,
and nineteen percent represents a midpoint between starting with nothing and achieving the republican nomination for the US Presidency, then ninteen percent represents ongoing success in educating the American public. Afterall, the incumbent machine is taking this candidate very seriously, and is being forced to pull out all stops to prevent the constituency from hearing his message....
Posted by: Grunta | February 02, 2008 at 09:35 PM
To Christopher:
If there is an ethical level of journalism available to us, we willl find it here. Mr. Malcolm is virtually the only well-known journalist covering Dr. Paul. You can come here every day and find a good article about RP. Thank You Mr. Malcolm for your good and fair journalism.
Posted by: Claudio Gomes | February 02, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Romney is an excellent candidate and for conservatives who are sick at the thought of a McCain nomination, it is time to unite behind Romney. He won't let us down!
Posted by: John Allen | February 02, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Ron Paul is right when he says that our foreign policy is hopelessly entangled. Right now we are broke because we invaded the country of our former ally (Saddam Hussein), so therefore we are borrowing billions from our former enemy (China) to give billions to the dictator of Pakistan (assuming he doesn't siphon the billions for himself) to hunt down Bin Laden, who used to our ally against the Russians, who are now our friends (kinda sorta). As Romney correctly said, this is 3-dimensional chess.
Posted by: Erik Rinne | February 02, 2008 at 09:51 PM
McCain had the endorsement of both of Maine's senators and he still lost by 30% to Romney. Romney should get the nomination. He received over 50% of the vote in Nevada as well. Romney is the best candidate running in the primaries and he is the most qualified to become President.
Romney '08
The Washington Post reported today about how much of the GOP in Arizona is against him including the Chair of the Republican party in McCain's home district. He referred to McCain as a liar.
Posted by: James | February 02, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Woohoo Ron Paul.
I love that man.
Regarless of what happens with this race, I believe that history will be very kind to the good doctor.
Posted by: Diane | February 02, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Andrew,
I'm not going to keep defending you. You're a big boy. You can take it.
And I know that I don't have to remind you that Ron Paul supporters sincerely appreciate you. Some of us don't realise that you're probably kind of sticking your neck out by writing so many articles that include Ron Paul.
We're not sore losers. We're just deperate for some good news. And actually, all things considering, this is really good news. The old Doctor, bless his heart, is hanging in there. He's a fighter. And that's one of the reasons why we Ron Paul supporters love the old man so much.
He's a tough old Cowboy.
But this isn't a Hollywood Movie. This is reality. And good (or what we believe is good) doesn't always win.
And by the way. You might have everyone else fooled. But you don't fool me. I can read between the lines. I can see a wee little bit of favoritism in there.
You closet RP supporter you.
Peter :)
(Peter, you're one of my favorite readers. So reasoned. So you know we really don't take sides here. If supporters of one candidate focus on one item or another, they might think we favor or oppose someone. But we try to be equal opportunity offenders. And over time, if a reader can set aside their cheering for one candidate, hope they will see we're pretty fair. I've said before, Dr. Paul is an interesting political story. His supporters who have gathered in such numbers seemingly spontaneously built around ideas are, despite some occasional crudeness, an even better story to tell. And that's what we do, is tell stories. So we intend to continue to do that. I've got a good one coming on one particular supporter of Dr. Paul's that you'll really enjoy. Hope to do it soon. Be well. And thanks for still reading--and commenting.)
Posted by: Peter | February 02, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Congratulations Mitt Romney! I'm impressed with Romney's integrity and intelligence. His debate performances were terrific and he stayed a gentleman through all the attacks of his fellow Republican candidates. Romney is someone I would be proud to have as president. I'll be voting for Romney in California on Tuesday.
Posted by: Katrina | February 02, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Hey, isn't it time to start calling Huckabee the "long shot" candidate? Ron Paul has far more volunteers and a lot more cash on hand. Any momentum Huckabee had from his win in Iowa is long gone by now.
I guess Ron Paul will always be the "longest of long shots" despite outlasting Tommy Thompson, Jim Gilmore, Sam Brownback, Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, John Cox, Alan Keyes, Fred Thompson, and Rudy Giuliani, and despite having more actual grassroots supporter than anyone else, and despite raising more money in the fourth quarter than the other Republicans.
But no, what makes me think the media is biased? (Nothing personal against Andrew, he's done a great job of covering Ron Paul in recent months.)
Posted by: Doug D | February 02, 2008 at 10:02 PM
This discussion reminds me of Nader's 2000 bid. He was almost entirely excluded from the 'news' and when he was mentioned it was only as a 'spoiler'. His ideas were not unlike Paul's, in that they were so 'off message' as to be threatening to the corporate power elite.
Unlike Nader, though, Paul isn't a third party candidate and he can tell the truth and make an ass of McCain in the debates. I would be surprised if he doesn't take California.
Posted by: rob | February 02, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Given the makeup of the electorate in that neck of the woods I would not have expected anything else. And, as a Dr. Paul supporter I am not disappointed. Looks pretty good to me. Thanks Andrew.
Posted by: DX10 | February 02, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Thank you for covering this article and presenting Ron Paul.
Go Ron Paul!
Posted by: Mjack | February 02, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Why are you declaring a winner already when only 68% of the votes are in? For all you know the next 32% that come in could change the current status..
(Well, you can hope that every vote left to count is for Dr. Paul sufficient to take him from 19% to 53%. But the reality is that's unlikely. And the party's vice chair has declared a winner, which is what we're reporting. You'll have to live with it. Maybe Dr. Paul can creep past Sen. McCain into second. That's another good story!)
Posted by: WTF? | February 02, 2008 at 10:24 PM
It's just a blog folks. Don't take it so seriously. This is someone's opinion only. There is no level of professional journalism here. Most bloggers are not paid. Lying is not illegal. Headlines bring hits and readers. Continue to vote your conscience and be smarter info consumers. Thank you Mr. Andrew Malcolm for your post.Your style of blogging has been noted by the general public.
(Thanks for the kind words. I'm certainly enjoying the writing and telling stories and the give and take with regular readers like you. P.S. We do get paid, though, of course, never enough. Now, if we could get paid by the click or the comment....)
Posted by: mike | February 02, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I think this going the way it should given emphasis to the MSM leading American like sheep, and how Ron Paul campaign is starting to accelerate. What is lacking now is some momentum to be able to increase the speed of the votes coming for Ron Paul.
Republican party is outsmarted by the liberals and neoCons to allow John Mc Cain who is not a conservative to have a shot at the nomination. If they do not back a strong conservative fast enough then the neocons and liberals will successfully hi jacked the party. So the choice is Ron Paul or Mitt Romney.
I as a Ron Paul supporter of course choose Ron Paul over Romney because of the obvious reason that Romney do not have the integrity, experience, constitutional position that Ron Paul has. So how do we get Ron Paul to the white house? What are his chances?
Ron Paul got the endorsement of Alabama and Montana which both are republican state. What's interesting and important is how the other strong republican state haven't begin nomination process. States like Indiana, South Dakota, Mississippi, Kentucky, Montana, Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina. I think it is essential for Ron Paul to campaign in these states heavily ahead of time to be able to gain momentum. We hope these states agree that John McCain is not a true conservatives. About Romney I think he's dangerous as far as his deep wallet goes but competitively, McCain is more dangerous than him.
Should the Meet Up groups turn into Precinct Leadership in those states, then Ron Paul can be ahead of the curve and chances are he will win the nomination. If he win the nomination, there is no doubt he win the Presidency.
Go Ron Paul!
Champion of the Constitution
Posted by: Herbi Rihiratu | February 02, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Do not discount the strength of the conservative core of the Republican party. McCain may have the backing of the main stream media, the DNC and other people eager to jump on the bandwagon (Rudy, last week you proposed the largest tax cut in American history, this week you endorse one of only two Republican senators who voted against the Bush tax cuts.....huh?).
The support of Romney is building........
Posted by: Alvin | February 02, 2008 at 10:33 PM
I can't believe I am living in a country full of Clowns, what kind of circus is this. Will there be no state to move to after this is all over. My brother was telling me he was helping serve food at a banquet of people that were looking to buy houses in a high end subdivision. The prices of the houses were way upper middle class at the time. People at the banquet came over to the table and started to carve up varnished bread that was laquered with real varnish to make a decorative display. It was not meant to be eaten. He thought for a minute about telling them about it but then he figured that maybe if they were going to pay that much for those houses maybe it wasn't really his place to tell them what they should eat...I mean after all even though they had enough money to buy the houses they didn't have the sense not to eat varnished bread.
Romney will fix our budget by taking out a big loan right before the next depression ...McCain will make sure your 10 year old kid will get to grow up and see Iraq in person...Huckabee will have you kneeling to say the pledge of allegence... and Ron Paul wants sound money and freedom...
Maybe my brother was right, who am I to tell you who to vote for president. Want a glass of water with that big Romney McCain Huckabee sandwich, cause I think you're gonna choke on it.
Posted by: badunit | February 02, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Ron Paul is the man.
Freedom is the plan!
Posted by: Alice | February 02, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Ron Paul has got to be one of the noblest American politicians I have ever observed. He refuses to allow his personal religious beliefs to cause him to act in any way in violation of the letter or the spirit of our great Constitution.
His positions, which have been ridiculed by the pack of hyenas also running, find tremendous support, in pricinple, from our founding fathers, including Jefferson, Madison, and Franklin. His desire to abolish the FED, would receive the wholehearted support of Andrew Jackson.
In short, his values are solid traditional American values, his record of consistency on principles and issues, indicate that above the glib likes of Romney and McCain, we can TRUST Ron Paul to do his darndest to deliver his promises.
Our nation has been gravely wounded by all the lying, cheating, and selling out, performed against us by our elected leadership of the past several decades. Measured against this dreary backdrop, Ron Paul stands like a beacon of light, his message wafts across our troubled land like a breath of fresh air, the ultimate battle between those for America, vs, the corrupt and treasonous elites needs a dauntless, lionhearted leader, if we are to have any hope of prevailing, and that leader is Ron Paul.
Restore our Republic - Support and Vote for Ron Paul.
Posted by: PaleoCon | February 02, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Thank you for your regular coverage of Ron Paul's campaign. You might not always report what Ron Paul supporters want to hear, but if it's accurate, then so be it. Thanks again.
Posted by: Mark Coleman | February 02, 2008 at 11:11 PM
"You got Mike Huckabee to speak to evangelicals, you got Mitt Romney to speak to Wall Street, you got Rudi Guliani and John McCain to speak to the militia. But my father was one who could draw support from all three."
- Ronald Regan Jr.
We may never have another president like Ronald Regan. But today, we have the opportunity to elect someone who speaks to people, about whom it all matters: religion, money, and security, the big three in Republicanism. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you...RONALD PAUL!!!
Posted by: Lee | February 02, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Good work, Maine! Now, if the rest of the states could realize Mitt is the Man!
If he isn't elected because of the Mormon issue, then the voters need to realize their own bigotry is keeping them from getting the conservative American leader they really want!
Posted by: Debra | February 02, 2008 at 11:27 PM
thanks Andrew, for some news about Ron Paul. I used to live in cali, but i woke up. hopefully the voters wake up, before its to late
Posted by: ron paul 08 | February 02, 2008 at 11:29 PM
I am tired of the media portraying McCain as the winner way ahead of Super
Tuesday. He also talks like he's got it all sewn up - big fat head! He's a
liar as well - why would anyone want to vote for this guy - liberal, liar,left-winger - think about it! Make the right choice before it's too late! Romney is
the only one in this race with real integrity and smarts - save yourselves!
Posted by: Nancy Stafford | February 02, 2008 at 11:41 PM
If Romney and McCain had been only a couple of percentage points apart for 3rd, the reporter would have reported it as being too close to call. That's the difference. People see the first report and never see any others. That's why it sucks to predict so close an outcome.
I'm guessing a lot of the reporters and TV station owners consider themselves safe from NASCO. They actually believe these politicians and it would never occur to them that a superhighway might bulldoze their business, their job, their homes, churches, schools, etc. If they understood what is planned for this nation with these corridors, they would be taking an entirely different tack. So long as they can comfortably imagine that it won't happen, or it won't happen to them, they don't care and they will continue to hide the only candidate who opposes the whole NAFTA/CAFTA catastrophe.
If any of these reporters had investigated H.R. 393 Universal Service Act of 2007 to see that it has been in committee and is likely to be pushed through before the end of Bush's term so that a lame duck president can sign it, they might be a bit more concerned about who our next president will be themselves. They might stop taking orders from the global news corporations and come right out to report the election fairly. I, and other Ron Paul voters, who have been disinfranchised by the mainstream media in this election will not feel a bit sorry for the reporters who get drafted. The bill says, "All persons (wives and mothers included) between the ages of 18 and 42" will be required to perform military service. This is what the politicians and reporters mean when they say, "expand military forces". I wonder how old this reporter is, whether he is over 42. If he is not, then I wish him the best of luck in Iraq. It's one thing to support a war that others are volunteering to fight. It's quite another to support a war you yourself may be conscripted for. A Ron Paul victory would change the landscape and render the draft an effort in futility. A Romney or McCain or Hillary victory would render the draft an effective engine for generating cannon fodder, which we will need if the war expands, as it will if we don't get the heck out of there. And the reporters may think, "Oh, they don't want me. They want 19 year old kids." But, my husband was just the right age, the draft never got around to him for Viet Nam, but it got around to his uncles. The draft for Korea never got around to my uncle who was the right age, but it got around to most of the fathers who lived in his neighborhood and many of them never came home. So, whatever you have to believe to feel safe, go right ahead. "When they come for you, there will be nobody left to speak up..." To paraphrase the Lutheran Minister, Dietrick Bonhoffer, executed by the NAZIS in Germany.
Posted by: angel | February 02, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Everyone relax. Take it easy. Take a breath.
This article tells us that Romney won 52% of the vote. For those of you who know nothing about how the Primary's work. Let's just say, there can be many surprises in store.
All you people throwing mud at each other. You're not betting on the superbowl with this election. We're talking about our future, and our children's future. Whomever wins, you'd better be praying, he understands monetary policy, or we're done. DONE!! Checkmate to China.
Posted by: Carl | February 02, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Statistically, Ron Paul is a SHOOTING STAR. A year ago, he didn't even register 1%. The winds of change are blowing in the U.S., the dollar and markets are in the TANK, the real estate bubble (created by the Fed) is bursting and in non-binding caucuses like Maine, delegates are free to go wherever the political wind is blowing in May. As more and more Americans become aware of the dire situation the U.S. is in, I expect Ron Paul's stock to continue to rise, as it has over the past year. Win or lose, this presidential season is going to be a wild ride. What Huckabee should do is back out and offer to sign up as Ron Paul's second in command... THAT would be tough combination to beat this summer.
Posted by: Steve-Connecticut | February 03, 2008 at 12:13 AM
This is intriguing .. I still see 68% of the votes showing. Im guessing the 32% left are Ron Paul's? lol.
Talk about irregularities.
Posted by: Fred | February 03, 2008 at 12:18 AM
68% reporting:
Romney 52%
McCain 21%
Paul 19%
Huckabee 6%
Looks like the good doctor is closing the gap. Still 32% to go.
Vote to end the War on the Middle Class,
Vote to end the War in Iraq,
Vote for Freedom!
Vote Ron Paul in 2008!
Posted by: Sean F | February 03, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Look at the bright side, people...
Dr. Paul got roughly 20% support from GOP voters in the Maine caucus... His support is, in fact, growing.
In case, you haven't yet also noticed the GOP isn't exactly known for their intelligence... Just look at their candidates for the last ten years, for example. I would bet that most of you probably won't even vote for the GOP if Paul is not their candidate.
I am wondering why wouldn't Dr. Paul run as an Independent?
PS. If it makes you feel any better, Dr. Paul easily won a poll of Canadians as to who they liked best to be the next President -- it wasn't even close really.
Of course, our media seems to be slightly more free than yours is currently.
Posted by: CANADA LOVES RON PAUL!!!! | February 03, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Just an FYI. Keep an eye on the delegates. Reports are that Paul and Romney are neck and neck with delegates. Of course we won't have final numbers until the convention. tI appears though that Paul beat out Romney in a number of counties.
Posted by: Matt | February 03, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Alright , now you're really done it. You have completely dispelled my thoughts that you will be doing another Ron Paul hit piece.
I saw stories in Yahoo about Ron Paul and was surprised and I am seeing endorsements. Ron Paul has a base of supporters that will finance him. Heck he raised another 1 million this week. Lets hope that the GOP realize that former Democrats like me don't join the Republican Party because of Mitt, John or Mike.
Just so that you know, Ron Paul changed my view of governments when he told a student, who asked about about Students Loans, where is the money going to come from ? The government doesn't have any money it gets its money by taxing people either by direct taxes or by an inflation tax so why does a waitress who never got a chance to go to college have to support you. The student was not pleased with the answer but that made me think.
Yet another time when taking about social polices on a talk show a listener said I have received a lot of help from governments to which Paul said I am glad but have you ever thought about who had to pay to help you, have you ever thought about who have to suffer to help you.
Even the listener understood.
Just maybe libertarians, conservatives, real republicans (Ron Paul ones) and other democrats will realize that poor nations cannot defend themselves, war is the health of the state, and tryants enslave you through the promise of protection and security. More importantly it is very lame to try and promote democracy through the barrel of a gun.
Thank you Andrew as a former cave dweller I can finally see the light. I can only hope that people will read this article and take it for the good news it is. Ron Paul can be a factor and even after Super Tuesday there will still be more than half of the country to continue onwards with. Which is promising news since his number seem to finally be creeping up there where they belong IMHO :-)
Posted by: Josh | February 03, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Dear Andrew Malcolm,
Thanks for mentioning Ron Paul because most articles don't even mention him, but I think you'd do justice if you didn't use prefixes like "long-shot" for him because he has outlasted the "front-runner" Guiliani, and he's getting 15% more votes than Mike Huckabee in the very state you're reporting about!
Secondly, the Headline "Breaking News: Romney wins Maine caucus" suggests that all votes have been counted, but that's not true. "Romney winning by a huge lead after 67% votes counted" would be true, but you can't declare the 2nd and 3rd position yet becuase 33% of votes are yet to be counted and it's too close to call for the 2nd position yet. Huckabee should be called the long-shot candidate now.
(No, the headline says Romney has won, which is fact and what the party says. The story clearly says McCain "is running" in second place, same "is" for Paul. Present tense. That says that could change. if it does, we'll write about it. But for now that's it.)
Posted by: Optimist | February 03, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Hey, Matt, thanks! Now that's some real news! Delegates are what count. And if Ron and Romney are battling it out for delegates, I can go to sleep happy tonite.
Knowing that Ron Paul's supporters will spend their last penny on him, as opposed to Romney, who will spend his last billion on himself, there's no question who is going to be the Last Man Standing.
Ron Paul's middle name is Ernest!!!
President Ron Paul 2008
Posted by: blakmira | February 03, 2008 at 01:06 AM
Actually, this is not disappointing for Ron paul and his supporters. Of course he would have liked to win his SECOND primary (He did win Louisiana, if they ever decide to count all the votes!), but second place (sorry, Andrew) is pretty good in Maine, especially considering it was a continuation of the steady uptick in votes he has been experiencing.
While he may not win the nomination (I won't say NEVER, since we have seen major candidates implode before, right Rudy?) I liken this year's campaign for the Doctor to Ronald Reagan's in 1976. I am old enough to remember that 'longshot' and 'kook' that everybody in the me mainstream media laughed at and dismissed. But after yet another failed (but well-intentioned) Presidency in Jimmy Carter, Reagan's message started resonating with people, and four years later they were ready for a radical change. Interestingly enough, ROn Paul was one of only four Congressman supporting him in '76- so much for John McCain's hollow claims of being a 'footsoldier in the Reagan Revolution'!
That example of perseverance and committment is why I and many others feel the media and the Republican Party leadership are being short-sighted in dismissing Ron Paul and his supporters so easily. REAL change (not the illusion of change being sold by most of the other candidates) takes time to build momentum. But if it's message is strong, and backed and led by people of character and integrity, that slow momentum will eventually build to an unstoppable crescendo eventually.
That's precisely what many people are slow to realize: it's not just the man, Ron Paul- it's the message. It's not just a campaign, but a real revolution of ideas and a policy of real change. THAT will be the true legacy of the Ron Paul campaign that will remain well beyond 2008, while the seemingly titanic campaigns of the other candidates with feet of clay will crumble into the dusty pages of history.
Ron Paul 2008, and beyond!
xtrabiggg
++++++++++++++++++++
Posted by: xtrabiggg | February 03, 2008 at 01:11 AM
I stand with Anne Coulter - I'll fight for Hillary just to defeat McCain the traitor.
Ron Paul is the only person who can save our country. But the powers that be who have destroyed our country are determined to keep it that way.
I hope Susan Collins is defeated this November - we don't need anymore traitors in out midst. She is sponsoring the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terror Bill in the Senate that will take away all of our rights to free speech and expression and throw innocent Americans into the new Halliburton Domestic Detention Centers.
Posted by: natschultz | February 03, 2008 at 01:14 AM
Most of Ron Paul supporters complain about the “unfair” media coverage he is receiving. This seems to be the main theme of the online discussions on youtube, blogs and other online forums.
Here is why I disagree: Ron Paul’s followers want to bring change to our current government processes. Go back to the teachings of our founding fathers; be champions of the constitution. These are great ideas and although they might be 200 years old they nonetheless appear as revolutionary concepts in the America we live in today.
In my mind, in order to bring about change you need first test them. In other words, if Ron Paul wants to bring about change he cannot use the conventional strategies to get his message across. He needs to overcome the obstacles of the so called “establishment” and gain the support through non-conventional vehicles.
He claims he will disconnect the special interest groups, lobbyists and others from Washington. But also complains when these groups, who he claims own the mainstream media, do not help him get his message across. So let me get this straight, he wants their help to get to the White House in order to kick them out?
Moreover, if you need their help to get into the White House, what makes you think you won’t need their help once you are there?
In my mind, Ron Paul’s candidacy brings about more change in the democratic process by coming in second, third or even fourth (but be in it until the end) in the primaries without the “establishment” support than winning the ticket with its backing.
Thomas Jefferson was very wise when saying: “Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.”…….A well-informed person, I feel, is not the one that gets its information from the mainstream media but the one that actually goes out and actively seeks the truth.
After note: I am voting for Hillary Clinton because I feel she can best use the establishment for the good of MORE people than just the FEW. With that said, if Ron Paul is able to win the nomination without the help of the establishment, this will prove that his ideology has been tested and proven, so I will support him for the good of ALL.
Posted by: Alex | February 03, 2008 at 01:17 AM
Libertarian Long Shot Candidate? Such a long shot has a lot of money and has outlasted John Edwards, Dennis Kuccinich, Tom Tancredo, Rudy Guiliani, Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson. A LONG SHOT? The only people making him out to be a long shot is the Council on Foreign Relations owned MEDIA. We see you exactly for what you are! The Elites are at work here, everyone can see you. The cat is out of the bag Rockefeller and friends. RON PAUL REVOLUTION!
Posted by: Jonnie Crivello | February 03, 2008 at 01:22 AM
Love Ron Paul. The only man with integrity.
I always knew that MSM was a tool to control and to manufacture conscent and I've always regarded CNN an Fox as 'political theater' where all "debates" are staged with pre-framed arguments, but it is the first time that I have actually FELT this control and I realised it had dumbed me down as well.
I was watching the Republican Reagan Library debate when I saw Ron Paul for the first time. In the beginning, I was "hearing" but wasn't "listening". It actually took me a while to realise that this guy was making SENSE.
So afterward, I went on the net and searched. I read, youtubed, googled all night. I learned so much about what the Constitution is, about what a Republic is, I SAW the media try to label, demonize, ridicule Ron Paul, I SAW him handle it with class, I learned about Martin Luther King, I learned about American history.
And I went from being anti-American to understanding the proud history you were built on, the founding fathers' dreams and wisdon. Ron Paul has single-handedly made me appreciate true American ideals, the beauty of a true free market economy and what it means to be a TRUE Republican. I no longer support Clinton, Obama or the Democrats. Vote for him because so you get your country back.
A Canadian
Posted by: BillyK | February 03, 2008 at 01:24 AM
The beauty contest straw poll that Mitt "won" in Maine is meaningless. In many of the precincts that Mitt won the "presidential preference poll", Ron Paul ended up with more delegates. Mitt didn't actually win anything today.
Posted by: Scott | February 03, 2008 at 01:47 AM
It still amazes me that people expect a MSM writer to remain objective. It's headlines that grab the reader regardless of the truth. If they didn't lead the sheep, they wouldn't have a job. If ya think of it, they've goit to chuckle a little bit at how they get the dander up of all of us Paul supporters every time they do this. Don't forget the cat's out of the bag, and no matter what they write, they can't put it back in.
Every dog has his day, and the MSM will have theirs fairly soon I'm guessing.
GO PAUL
Posted by: Tom Brown | February 03, 2008 at 01:52 AM
Thanks for actually including Ron Paul. I am fed up with mainstream TV news channels ignoring him and will not watch any mainstream news show again on any network except for Lou Dobbs- period.
An educated and democratically minded leader wants to repeal the IRS, give power back to the people, bring back a constitutional government, strengthen the military and only go to war when Congress declares war- and he is ignored by all of maninstream media and all but ignored when he is only one of four in the Presdiential debates.
I have never been so disgusted with the media in my entire life!
Thank-you again for actually reporting on him. I sincerely appreciate it.
Jeff Barnard, a Ron Paul supporter (or a supporter of anyone else who will come along in the future with a similar, pro-constitution, anti-tax and pro-people platform)
Posted by: jeff b. | February 03, 2008 at 02:10 AM
I appreciate this LA Times blog. You guys want to give them a hard time, but frankly they are one of the very few that do give Ron Paul and fair shake, most of the time. If I lived in LA I'd buy Andy a couple of cold ones down at Joe's Bar & Grill.
Also out yesterday: Ron Paul recieves the most donations from the active military in the 4th qtr. of '07, again! He had more donations than ALL of the others, combined!
The only way we can lose is to forget that we are winning!
Posted by: Mike | February 03, 2008 at 02:46 AM
Despite the predictable volume of Ron Paul responses, I think the interesting story here is that Romney has dominated in three "cowboy" states (using the term more metaphorically w.r.t. Maine). I expected him to win Michigan, but his dominance in Maine, Wyoming and Nevada (and his strong showing in New Hampshire) is surprising to me.
I don't think one can attribute the NV and WY blowouts to the Mormon vote. I know Romney campaigned more than the others in these states (except perhaps Paul), but I expected him to do better in industrial states and worse in "values" and "maverick" states. Maybe that's why nobody pays me to do political analysis.
Posted by: Keith Henderson | February 03, 2008 at 03:17 AM
It's that interesting, Ron Paul 19%, he does well in the states where the Main Stream Media doesn't do a lot of "free" campaigning for some candidates.
Posted by: a Rocket Scientist | February 03, 2008 at 03:40 AM
Only 200 people out of a population of 121,000 in my county in Maine showed up to vote so it shows that it wouldn't take that much to tilt this race either way.I voted for Dr. Paul and easily became a delegate.Don't throw your vote away for someone like Bush who has devastated this great nation.VOTE this Tuesday for real change towards Freedom !
Posted by: mark | February 03, 2008 at 03:50 AM
As a former resident of northern California, I never thought I'd be saying this....
Way to go LA times for continuing to provide us fair stories regarding Ron Paul! This is usually one of my first stops of the day for my Ron Paul news fix.
One happy reader.
(Glad to have you and hope you return often--and comment.)
Posted by: TimM | February 03, 2008 at 04:27 AM
Looks like Romney has taken Maine, but you must let your readers know that Maine still has one more day to caucus, and that is today. I would not call McCain 2nd place quite yet, it is very, very possible with the remaining 32% that Ron Paul may have that second place. I am a Ron Paul Supporter, but I would rather see Romney over McCain anyday. McCain is way too far out from the traditional Republican platform. Ron Paul is the true conservative Republican running and he still believes in limited government, lower taxes, liberty, freedom, secure borders, no ammesty, a strong military defense, but most importantly our Constitution of the United States of America, and WE THE PEOPLE. I am just amazed to see how the old media has flocked to a warmongering, more taxation, amnesty loving loser like McCain, even Arnold has endorsed him, what is up with that. Arnold is actually a Democrat, but because of his fame he was able to run as a Republican and dupe the voters here in California. McClueless/McCain and Huckagod/Huckabee will falter come Super Tuesday, and then the media will go on to put Romney in the limelight. I will still be voting with integrity and principle, I will not vote for the person I think has a better chance of winning, that is unAmerican, and quite frankly a cowardly wasted vote.
If you all are wondering why the mainstream media is not reporting on Ron Paul please read this:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/012808.html
If you are struggling between Romney and Ron Paul watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lAFfLy05_Y
My vote and support is for Ron Paul, The Champion of the Constitution.
http://ronpaul2008.com
Posted by: Tess | February 03, 2008 at 04:54 AM
Ron Paul has done well and brought a lot of attention to the issues. He probably knows McCains behaviors well. I hope he will be smart and turn his votes to Romney with an endorsement and turn this primary around.
Posted by: afisher | February 03, 2008 at 05:06 AM
I thought I saw a spark coming from the Los Angeles Times each time I check my "alerts" for The Guru of this generation. Thanks for the light, Andrew.
I began to think last evening about what would happen if we had Concerts for Ron Paul, like Woodstock, and picked up our garbage this time.
But I think the children are handling it, now. They know a great visionary when they see one. As their brothers and sisters who couldn't get another job are dying and coming home wounded from The Great Idiot's invasion of a sovereign nation, they are not afraid to speak and shout for a Sane, Benevolent Leader, make music and movies, make handmade signs and blog til they drop. At least this time, no one is getting maced, Yet.
Posted by: Grandma in Florida | February 03, 2008 at 05:13 AM
Thank you Andrew for the report. Looks like there is a contest and that is a good thing. I think nothing has turned off voters from the establishment GOP or Dems more than having party leaders so vested in a particular candidate that they seem agitated that someone new has climbed into their sandbox to play. I think it is fun watching them squirm and if you ask me, you journalists should be excited about what is happening, good news material. Besides, all the reporting on war is pretty well worn out isn't it? Lets brings our soldiers home for a rest.
Posted by: mistermr | February 03, 2008 at 05:31 AM
Romney won the straw vote but many of his supporters apparently were in a hurry to leave so he did not fare so well when it came time to elect delegates. The Ron Paul people hung in there and appear to have the most delegates so far
Posted by: Jim McClarin | February 03, 2008 at 05:36 AM
sorry, but your journalism is shabby at best! why don't you wait before you make predicitons? oh, you probably cannot. you are corporate media.
anyway, dr. ron paul is doing amazingly well considering what he is up against.
just imagine if he got FAIR and BALANCED coverage!!!
the l a times is just like the rest of corporate - praise the liars and hide the good ones!
go dr. paul - YOU ARE THE BEST!
(Who's making predictions? The party vice chair, who's doing the counting, said Romney won. So did we. He said McCain is running 2d. So did we. He said Paul is running third. So did we. No predicting.)
Posted by: dawn marie clark | February 03, 2008 at 06:00 AM
New England is know mostly for socialism, and a debtors' economy provided the illusion it works for generations. It's should be no surprise that the R-version of McRomney socialism still has great appeal, especially among the older populations. The real story is that 2008 will be the finally year that socialism works for anyone. Prepare accordingly?
Posted by: Gene | February 03, 2008 at 06:10 AM
Andrew:
This whole issue of Ron Paul being blacked-out by the mainstream media seems undeniable. For example, yesterday I was on CNN's site and of course a list of the candidates and their weekend campaign plans left out Ron Paul. The CNN "debate" was a disgrace. I don't know how anyone could call that a debate. The treatment of Paul and Huckabee was shocking.
This blackout of Paul seems well-orchestrated, almost as if the media is controlled by one entity. What I don't understand is why haven't memos or whistleblowers surfaced to confirm that reporters have been instructed not to mention Ron Paul, that cameramen have been told to avoid Ron Paul signs in their shots etc. Where are the stories from the whistleblowers who can confirm this orchestration? It seems to be there but the smoking gun evidence hasn't shown up. Why is that?
Posted by: Gerry | February 03, 2008 at 06:16 AM
Thank you Andrew, its always a pleasure reading your opinions. Boy, for RP supporters, I find this primary a difficult time for them. There are those who keep the faith (faith can move mountains apparently, but not the Republican Party), and those who are upset at either the MSM or Corporate America. Personally, I like the guys who keep the faith. They are easier to deal with in everyday life. I for one, am hoping that RP is the sly fox they would have you believe, but my hope doesn't run that deep although I'm beginning to see a trend here in the primaries. Soon, the Huckster will drop out due to not having any funding. That will leave McCain & Romney going back and forth trading places as frontrunner, both with about 40 percent of the delegates, leaving Paul with about a solid 10-15%. I don't see either frontrunner attacking RP anymore, but rather trying to appeal to his percentage of followers. Unfortunately for the frontrunners, RP's people are really dedicated and can't be bought by either Mc or Romney, but can be handed to either guy depending on the changes they make in their platform. This will make RP the Kingmaker and the nominated guy will most likely be the next POTUS. It looks like in order to win the nomination, either Mc or the Romulan will have to bend over a little for some of the RP platform. I see "100 years in Iraq McCain" as the more inflexible of the two, whereas flip Romney is a known "bend with the wind" type of politician in order to win. I believe the Romulans will bend knee to the Ronulans,in order to take the nomination. We can give either guy the votes they need to have more than 50 percent of the delegates. What do you think?
Posted by: Steve GRycel | February 03, 2008 at 06:19 AM
Vote Ron Paul in 2008
Honest
Great ideas
secure borders
no foriegn aid
end the war
no pork in the budget
A real AMERICAN
Remember its "WE THE PEOPLE"
NOT WE THE CORPORATIONS AND POLITICIANS
The media is pushing their agendas on you.
Think then vote
Your future and your childrens future depends on it.
Posted by: BOB BRERETON | February 03, 2008 at 06:26 AM
If the mainstream media are not supporting Ron Paul this is the reason why-
There's nothing to add apart from they choose not to. You ask them why this. It should be your duty as a patriot.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1848801387987192924&q=an+idea+whose+time+has+come&total=262&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Posted by: andre | February 03, 2008 at 06:30 AM
My only question is if Mitt Romney got 52% then where is all his supporters? Should not that amount of people be flooding airways and the internet for that matter. Don't the ones that vote during this time research and also read? I don't see any masses for Mitt, even on the lying media channels? Where are his bloggers? All I see is Ron Paul supporters, everywhere.
So being an American all my life, 39 years, I would like to see the lying media that is controling this circus act all behind bars for fixing our votes. Then I would like to see all members of government jailed that have not upheld the constitution.
Yes, I Am An American And I Already Voted For Ron Paul, My Wife Too!
Kan Nal - http://thedreamer.typepad.com/All-Things-Change.mp3
Enjoy this because the ride is just getting interesting. It is nice to have a song to go along with this time in our history.
Peace - Kirk
Posted by: Kirk Roberts | February 03, 2008 at 06:45 AM
I'm guessing that if Mccain or Mitt wins, the republican party will lose almost all support from the youth voters.
go
Dr. Paul
Posted by: Ryan Long | February 03, 2008 at 06:46 AM
To afhisher,
You make me laugh, because you obviously don't know much about Ron Paul. There is no chance that Ron Paul would ever endorse Mitt Romney.
To Mr. Malcom,
Have your heard about Dr. Paul's new book, The Revolution: a manifesto? It is already at #3 and it hasn't even come out yet!
Andrew, you will be remembered as one of the few journalist who gave Dr. Paul the media coverage he and all candidates deserve. Thanks for sticking your neck out and covering the story. Of course, you discovered that there is a personal benefit to your career: you get a TON of attention too!
Posted by: Elizabeth | February 03, 2008 at 07:26 AM
Andrew,
Thanks for the story. You said you don't get paid enough, well vote for Ron Paul, the true Republican who wants to put more money in your pocket by taking less from your paycheck! What blows me away about Congressman Paul is his honesty, and strength to stand up for his beliefs. Thank you Maine voters for your support!
Posted by: DeeDee | February 03, 2008 at 07:47 AM
I find it truly remarkable there are so few journalists in American today. Nothing but a butch of cowards, afraid of losing their jobs and writing what they are told to write by their organizations.
Where are they brave men and women of journalism we the courage to fairly report on the positions and accomplishments of Ron Paul in this election.
You know, come to think of it, its actually scares me that some interest group seems to have taken over America's news reporting. Dear God I hope we have not lost the ability to think for ourselves. Thank God for the internet, our last bastion of free press.
Posted by: A. Luis Suarez | February 03, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Just reinterate at the risk of seeming very redundant. It seems that researching candidates before voting and common sense are just things Americans cannot do/don't have and never will regardless of the circumstances. Is it so hard to watch 1 debate throughout..it should be mandatory that voters no the issuesw and the candidates before going to a poll. McCain can be summed up as a fake war hero that has basically left MIA/POWS to rot in Vietnam and Korea. Do any voters think Mitt Romney has anything in common with people that earn less than 1 million a year. He has at least 6 lobbyist either on his campaign staff or advising.. Romney thinks that George W has done a good job..935 lies of various types concerning Iraq seems to negate that and makes me wonder what planet Romney is from.
If the writing ain't on the wall concerning Romney I'm living in the land of the mentally retarded. For voters no to know these things is irresponsible on their part. PEOPLE HAVE TO WAKE UP OR WE WILL HAVE THE SAME OLD SAME OLD..AND WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT THIS TIME! AND LASTLY MALCOLM YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE! IF YOUR NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM..YOU KNOW THAT THINGS AREN'T RIGHT AND HAVEN'T BEEN FOR A LONG TIME..I GUESS FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IN A COLUMN MIGHT BE DANGEROUS TO YOU R CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT......COWARD!
Posted by: Keith | February 03, 2008 at 08:39 AM
Actually Ron Paul ended up with 18.7%, fully 4 points behind McCain. I'd hardly call that a "close third." And compared to Romney, he got crushed. Note also, Paul was the only one to campaign in the State.
Paul has had one embarrasing loss after the other. One wonders why the media, including the LA Times, keeps pumping him up?
Posted by: Eric Dondero | February 03, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Uncontested States is the ONLY thing Romney can win. NO ONE campaigned in Maine.
Posted by: Ted | February 03, 2008 at 09:21 AM
Congrats to the Paul and his supporters on another strong finish. But I am ecstatic to see a good turnout for Romney. Ron Paul is completely uncompromising on his principles, and that of course is an honorable thing. His voting record is impeccably clean - but sadly void of success. His unyielding idealism tends to get him stuck. It brings to mind Aesop's story of a boy who can't get his fist out of a jar of filberts, because he refuses to take a smaller handful.
Mitt picks a few goals, makes them happen, then goes back for more. I know that makes him appear inconsistent. But I really believe a pragmatic, highly effective conservative like Romney in the white house will help make Ron Paul's efforts in Congress reach fruition.
Posted by: supernovia | February 03, 2008 at 09:47 AM
The revolution isn't about Ron Paul, it's about the platform he represents. For all the put-downs and dismissals against him personally, people know that our government is drifting further and further from our founding principles. Socialism and a rather militant, nationalist, form of socialism at that, has been gaining control over the American political process for several decades now and has greatly accelerated since 9/11. It is now so entrenched that a small-government Constitutionalist like Dr. Paul can be openly rediculed by the most main-stream of politicians, pundits and publications. The irony of such personal attackes against his character is that he just happens to be the ultimate rarity in Congress; a man who never uses tax dollars for his own benefit (while all other politicians take for granted their power to travel and party on public funds). From one area to another, Dr. Paul has constantly been the standard barer for how not to be a corrupt public servant; to actually serve rather than dictate. To act with humillity rather than hubris.
The media indeed has the power to shape our reality when the last honest man in town is made out to be a nut and people buy into it. The important thing is that Ron Paul is running for president and as such, a desperately needed message has found a foothold in the American political scene. All great political movements have a starting point and 2007 is that year for Constitutional Conservatism. Someday a larger segment of the population will understand the debt of gratitude owed to Dr. Paul for his self-sacrafice on their behalf.
Posted by: Andre | February 03, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Newsworthy is the trend. In actual elections and in national polls, Dr. Paul's support is increasing. Financial support is down, slightlly, and part of the apparent gain in Dr. Paul's popularity is that there are fewer candidates with whom he must compete. Still, this Ron Paul supporter is heartened, and anything but disappointed, by what this campaign has done and will do.
If politics is the art of what is possible, then Dr. Paul is changing what is possible. Revolutionary may be too strong. Influential may be too weak. Consider that issues that were off the radar one year ago are on screens worldwide because of this campaign. For just one example, today in Maine, a candidate who vows to pardon all non-violent drug prisoners is garnering almost 20% of the vote in a state caucus. In our country of drug Czars and the ritual persecution of drug users, this is an extraordinary achievement. Dr. Paul touches the drug war political third rail, yet his campaign not only is alive, but is strengthening.
One more issue example. Foreign intervention. Rudy threw Dr. Paul onto the third rail, saying "I ask the Congressman to take that back" or some such, when some months ago, at a nationally televised debate, Dr. Paul argued that U.S. intervention in the Middle East motivated the 9/11 attacks. Dr. Paul took it forward. Today, the causes of terrorism have become and remain a visible national issue, mostly because Dr. Paul continues to speak, to debate, and his supporters continue to blog.
Disappointed with almost 20%? That's good enough to get to the convention, good enough to keep money coming in, good enough to influence the party platform and good enough to merit a dance on the grave of Rudy's campaign. And this demonstrative popularity is good enough to maybe, just maybe, position Dr. Paul for the nomination if the conservative base rallies around Dr. Paul. If the base can't sell Romney, will it really want to run a big spending quasi-Democrat whose namesake campaign law not only tramples the First Amendment but disadvantages the Republican Party? Stay tuned for Ron Paul as the white knight.
Bob (Los Angeles)
Posted by: BobLosAngeles | February 03, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Is there any way we could drop the "long-shot" tags? They're just getting old. It seems like shaping to me, which leads to people not wanting to "waste their vote".
I know it's an opinion based on your journalistic predictions, but Dr. Paul deserves more respect.
Posted by: Seth M | February 03, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Tess,
"I hope he will be smart and turn his votes to Romney with an endorsement and turn this primary around."
No offense, but you obviously haven't researched Ron Paul. He stands by his word and endorsing any other GOP would be a complete reversal from many of his view points. I know other candidates are in the business of changing their positions, but not Paul.
Posted by: Seth M | February 03, 2008 at 10:29 AM
McCain and Romney are inconsequential to the fall election. Neither have a chance with a pro-war look for Muslims under every rock attitude. These guys are both beholding to the banks and their NeoCon friends while the rest of us sink further in debt and eventually succumb to a failed economy and currency. I could be sure they will do at least as well supporting us in a depression as they did rescuing the poor folks in the Gulf Coast, NOT. Except for Ron Paul, the rest of the pack is simply talking about re-appropriating funds and minor tax trimming or adding, vs actually fixing anything. This will guarantee a collapse between 2010 to 2015. The SS and Medicare systems are going to sink the ship, not to mention the continued war on terror. With more than $1Million Million dollars per year involved in the NeoCon manipulations, expect nearly anything to happen in trying to influence the public perception and the vote. Understand the FED and the money system, the root of all evil. Ron Paul is a brave man to bring the subject up in public. Go Ron Paul Go 2008!
Posted by: Guesswhotoo6 | February 03, 2008 at 10:46 AM
It would be foolish to take any of these caucus results at face value in light of the evident massive (and global) media self-censorship on Ron Paul combined with ample evidence of electoral vote rigging,
Suspicious behaviour at New Hampshire Primary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM&eurl=http://www.dailyscare.com/
Testimony on Diebold election fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky-YXvxYbck&feature=related
Hacking Democracy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4463776866669054201
American Blackout: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5965670944815984616
Posted by: J Richards | February 03, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Thank you for the blog! Having said that I do find that there may be at least the appearance of a conflict of interest in how you're reporting 2nd and 3rd place. Which republican did the LA Times endorse? Not that you would be forced into anything. Keep blogging on this when Paul comes in 2nd by a few percentage points. Beyond that we'll see who's bragging when the delegates are known and counted properly. Peace
Posted by: Scott AM | February 03, 2008 at 10:49 AM
"PS. If it makes you feel any better, Dr. Paul easily won a poll of Canadians as to who they liked best to be the next President -- it wasn't even close really.
Of course, our media seems to be slightly more free than yours is currently."
Sadly, even the Russian Media seems to be slightly more free then ours is, too. One of the few Ron Paul stories between January 1st and 15th was Russian media coverage of how the US is censoring its media. And to think less then 40 years ago we used to lecture them about Pravda being a state owned, propaganda tool of the Soviet Union.
Thank you Andrew, for going where the ratings are and not being afraid to speak the name of Ron Paul in public. When the MSM deliberately ignores stories that would normally be huge ratings, even the densest of Americans should be scratching their heads. It's problematic though, the MSM is winning,(at least fo the primarys), more then half the people I canvass or talk to still have never heard of Ron Paul. Since early on even the other candidates have have censored themselvess from even mentioning his name. Which is so disgraceful it's beyond words.
Posted by: john NY | February 03, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I hope once all the votes are counted Ron Paul will come in 2nd but there is one thing Ron Paul is in 1st in and for some reason its getting very little attition maybe you can write an article on it. But did you know Ron Paul has recived more donations from Military Members then all the other GOP Canidates combined? Thats more then Mccain, Huccabee, and Rommney combined. Thats not all Ron Paul has also recived more Military Member donations then Obama and Hilliary. Here is a link to the latest numbers.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/211/q4-fec-reports-ron-paul-receives-more-military-donations-than-all-other-republicans-combined
Posted by: Ben Boult | February 03, 2008 at 11:09 AM
It is unethical to report the results before all of the votes are counted regardless of who is or is not winning. Your report may influence the remaining votes. Poor!
Posted by: John Foster | February 03, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Ron Paul IS America's last chance. These other candidates are all jerking about on their strings held by big money corporations.
America is being run into the ground by a cabal that will not have to face the consequences of a destroyed America. Like the banking houses of medieval Europe, they have money on both sides of every conflict and so they win no matter who loses.
They are spending every last dime we have, spreading our military across the globe fostering nothing but pure hatred for our imperial policies while they secure for themselves vast markets, and they are ransacking our institutions leaving not a shred of the Constitution intact. They are not Americans, they are globalists and they will do anything necessary to achieve their goals.
If we as Americans do not remove them this last time, we deserve the burning hell they have prepared for us.
Posted by: Brian | February 03, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Sorry Tess, my mistake. My previous statement was meant for "afisher".
Posted by: Seth M | February 03, 2008 at 11:34 AM
afisher, put it another way, if Romney will embrace Dr. Paul's positions honestly, then I would be happy for Romney to be President. And, if he maintained those positions he would be able to defeat either of the democrats. But if he was insincere he would never serve another term.
Posted by: DX10 | February 03, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Looks like Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate that is truly Republican. He just keeps gaining momentum! I won't be surprised one bit when he gets the nomination. Enough of the liars and flip floppers! RP in 08
Posted by: Brian | February 03, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Well I don't think the writer had bad doing he/she did declare only two thirds of the votes were in. Although the title is very misleading.
Posted by: Beau | February 03, 2008 at 11:40 AM
These delegates are non-binding. That means the totals from the caucuses are irrelevant. It doesn't matter who won, the only thing that matters is who's standing after the smoke clears in May.
Paul supporters don't give up. Paul is running a beautiful rope-a-dope strategy. If he can win a few states on Tuesday and stop McCain from taking the nominattion that'l force Romney and Huckster out of the race. In a matchup between Paul vs McCain, he's going to get the conservatives rallying behind him. And God forbid if he debates McCain. That'll be a mismatch of epic proportions.
Posted by: BRIAN | February 03, 2008 at 11:56 AM
With only 2/3 reporting, it is simply wrong to declare the 2nd place. Even after Ron Paul won 2nd in Nevada by 14% to 13%, the media still referred to his "tie for 2nd place". We all know the media is slanting everything against Ron Paul, here is another example. Assuming Ron Paul and John McCain both get 20% of the vote, then after only 2/3 it would be extremely likely to have one at 19% and one at 21%. There are only 100 votes difference and Ron Paul earlier had a 100 vote lead. Also, what nobody mentions is county size. Some might be larger than others. I like how the writer defends himself every time, but the fact is, Romney is the likely winner, and there is a close battle for 2nd place.
Posted by: Neil McLaughlin | February 03, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Based on the responses to this blog, the results are in:
Ron Paul 52 votes (85.25%)
Romney 9 votes (14.75%)
Other 0 votes (0%)
Basically Ron Paul beats Romney 6-1 here.
So in other words, we're supposed to believe that there are just 346% more online RP fans, and there are just 447% fewer Ron Paul fans that show up to vote. Please.
Posted by: Neil McLaughlin | February 03, 2008 at 12:27 PM
For ron to be at 19% with 67% of votes counted, is awesome. He could pass McCain before the day if over so cross your fingers. With Huckabee heading out of the race very soon, we should start promoting to his base. If we had his 5%, we would have handily beat McCain. Ron Paul is growing whether the media like it or not. Lets keep talking about him...
Posted by: Mark | February 03, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Nice read, Mr. Andrew Malcolm. This is an interesting race, isnt it?!!
And what American can be ashamed of it? Not us! Not THIS year. Thanks to Congressman Ron Paul, to his setting his preverbial lamp on the lampost, so the whole world could be reminded...reminded of what freedom really looks like.
Like others here, I confess my admiration for the good doctor, though now more robustly.
And am both proud and astonished to see this subtle but massive freedom campaign of ours picking up momentum, then as now heading to places with unvieled potential, like a long train of over-achievers on a Constitutional track leading to somewhere worthy, where we've been before, and may return to, our freedom message rumbling past heavily, on the nations grounds, it's fired engines straining noisily, always gladly fueled by our own collective energies.
The sound of the loud horn is signalling something urgent and can now be less faintly heard. Which means perhaps the truth is approaching a hoped-for tipping point. So who knows what awaits us tomorrow, what our arrival will mean at the next stop. Or the one after that.
All we know for sure, by the doctors own admission, is that we've come a long way, made great strides and already exceeded all expectations. To me, therefore, each new day has its remarkable accomplishments, and is a celebrated advancement, a victory for us.
Whatever does come of our efforts, I'm certain that these times will always be marked by each of us as special, filled with nestalgia and meaning. Knowing this rich history will add to our nations proud heritage; and remain for me, just as it is already, a thing of beauty. And an endeavor to be told and remembered and recounted to my own for many o' year.
Proudly,
William
(As we've written here many times, the Paul campaign and its supporters are one of the most interesting stories of this entire campaign so far. Thanks for reading.)
Posted by: William | February 03, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Eric Dondero says "One wonders why the media, including the LA Times, keeps pumping him up?"
And what planet have you been on lately Eric?? If Ron had equal media time, he would be first in every state. McCain is broke, Huck is Broke, Gman is out so what support do these guys have without the main media pumping them up to idiots like you?? The only ones that should be in this race is Paul and Romney because they are the ONLY ones capable of financing a solid campaign WITHOUT the media's help.
Posted by: Mark | February 03, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Mr. Dondero,
You clearly have a bad case of sour grapes. You are a petty person on a mission to take one better than yourself down. Dr. Paul will probably lose because the people have been conditioned to think like slaves and are frightened at the prospect of freedom. But, even if you win, you lose.
Posted by: DX10 | February 03, 2008 at 12:46 PM
More than half the voters I know say they would vote for Paul but he 'doesn't have a chance.' I haven't heard an answer to the argument of how a Pro-Iraq -War Republican candidate can possibly get a majority in a country 70% against the war.
I am sore afeard that in two or three years Paul supporters will be saying 'I told you so' when current economic denial-policies come home to roost. That the bubbling resentment of illegal immigrants just under the surface will bubble over when the middle class has no money themselves (see 'History' concerning non-assimilation of large ethnic groups). That Health Care and Education continue to get worse as the government gets bigger and nosier (as a friend related to me, the LAUSD could not have been more oppressive and unsuccessful with minorites the last 20 years had even the KKK designed their government-knows-all policies and programs, helped along by the NCLB super-clueless policy. Obama is the kind of naiive thinker that doesn't notice this). That the U.S. will continue to experience blowback and resentment by the rest of the world for our idea that we are entitled to a military presence in 130 countries around the world. Veterans of Iraq are committing suicide at alarming rates. This is not the behavior of soldiers involved in a just war.
Better Vote Ron Paul now than be sorry later. Anyone else is a wasted vote.
Posted by: craig seganti | February 03, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Understood that Romney has won the popular vote. Understood that Maine's delegates are uncommitted regardless of popular vote. Waiting for the update to this article that says McCain has ended up in 3rd and Paul has ended up in second. Hoping that a September article will report Maine's delegates support Ron Paul.
Posted by: Mindi Leflar | February 03, 2008 at 01:00 PM
BOYCOTT CHINA!!!
NO TO ROMNEY! He is a SELLOUT to this nation!
Romney's VC company (Blane Capital) is assisting the communist red dragon government (CHINA) in buying the American military defense software company 3M.
He is a traitor for big money. It is people like Mitt Romney in government that this country is in the state that we see today. He is just like Dickster.
Boycott Romney.
Posted by: Peoria Illinois | February 03, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Ron Paul did embarrass McCain. How many deligates did they each get? It is quite possible that they tied for delegates. And he also embarrassed the media that continue to ignore him. The media would like to see McCain win this whole thing and Paul damb near beat him. Ron Paul's rally in Denver on Friday had nearly 3,000 people show up at the Colorado Convention Center. Romney chose to go to a car dealership. He did pack the place though. Ha! Guess which one the media gave more attention to.
Posted by: thad schiele | February 03, 2008 at 01:24 PM
GO RON PAUL!!
Even if he doesn't win. He's still given me a bandwagon with my name on it to hop into. Instead of settling for subpar candidates with subpar ethics. Whatever happens, the Ron Paul Revolution needs to Continue.
Posted by: Katie Gonzales | February 03, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Unlike pretty much all of the other media outlets, the LA Times has been extremely fair in its coverage of Ron Paul. Thank you for that.
Posted by: Craig Wright | February 03, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Andrew, Question, "Are you Conner's brother?", I Just wish we would talk of winning and losing after all of the votes were counted, Ron Paul is the only choice and the only voice for change. I think Dr Paul is right, be whatever drummer you march too, You get those Rights to dance from the Constitution, rember, Vote for Paul, if you feel you can take care of yourself, if you believe in peace, and personal responsibilty, and all the good things that make all of us American's. If not, don't worry there are plenty of media outlets to do your thinkin for you, Have a drink the Big Game is on!! everything will be just fine
Posted by: RaferJanders | February 03, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Andrew -- I enjoy reading your blog and appreciate your generally fair coverage of Ron Paul. I also
I must however inquire: is there some written or unwritten rule that any coverage of Ron Paul must always include the "longshot" label? Why is it that other, lesser known candidates are not consistenly labeled longshots but Ron Paul is?
Such a label serves to marginalize the designee. I must also ask: is that the intention? Certainly you must know that many voters will not vote for a candidate they perceived to be a longshot for fear of "wasting" their vote. I'm afraid that even polite articles that marginalize the candidate are just as or even more destructive than openly derisive and hostile articles.
So, why the label? You may argue that it is accurate, but is there a reader that does not know he is a longshot?
(One, you're correct, it is accurate. Two, I don't always use it. and three, it seems to objective people like kind of a compliment sometimes that someone expected to do so poorly is actually doing so well, which one could argue Dr. Paul is sometimes.)
Posted by: Dave | February 03, 2008 at 02:30 PM
You need not worry, it has all been taken care of...
go to youtube: search for... Hacking Democracy
"If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention"
Posted by: Earth | February 03, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I agree that the Los Angeles Times, has been fair in covering Ron Paul. I sincerely appreciate that. Perhaps Ron Paul supporters should purchase subscriptions or stock as a thank you for the unbiased reporting?
Ron Paul is just now building momentum. Think about the large majority of the anti-war GOP vote that went to McCain in the NH exit polls. Those people obviously didn’t know what the heck they were voting for in “Hundred Year War” McKill. Every dollar donated, every commercial ran, every door knocked will keep growing this peaceful movement to restore the Constitution, restore sound money and end perpetual foreign wars.
Posted by: Abe | February 03, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Andre:
Thank you for sharing that video on Ron Paul, that was awesome, and thank you L.A. Times for allowing it to be posted so we could view it here.
Ron Paul for the win! He has my vote and support in California.
http://ronpaul2008.com
Posted by: Tess | February 03, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Ron paul has been blacked out by the media, it's disgusting, Huckabee is only still in due to his constant TV coverage, he;s all over the place, ron paul doesn't get a look in, ... this is democracy ? well you can stuff your democracy if this is it.
Posted by: andy | February 03, 2008 at 03:34 PM
A NEW HOPE
We all have been living a nightmare. A vision D. Eisenhower warned of in his 1961 farewell address to the nation. In his address, Eisenhower warned of the corruption of our government, our society, and our culture by the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. It seems that as a nation, we have not listened. Eisenhower’s dire vision has become our reality. And from this fearful dream, this nation is waking. Our eyes are opening to the truth collectively for the first time. WE THE PEOPLE are finding that we have been subjugated, placated into ignorance and fear, lied to by the very people we have entrusted to preserve and protect our rights, liberties, and our constitution. Many will turn away in fear of truth and close their eyes once again. To open our eyes to this reality, is to also understand that we are all responsible for it as well. complacency and dependence upon the machine keeps THE PEOPLE in line because it is convenient and safe. We have sold our souls. We have as a nation let this happen to ourselves.
My heart breaks for the people of this nation. Our government wages war upon our freedoms, liberties, and our constitution. I watch our republic’s destruction, not to the sound of guns or bombs, but to the sound of thunderous applause of those held captive by terrified patriotic blindness, guided by the propaganda of fear, as we give our rights and even the lives of our fellow man for the profit of the corrupt. A fear that is erasing our great history of freedom and repeating itself 70 years later with another dictatorship of war, under the guise of homeland security and the protection of the people.
BUT THERE IS STILL HOPE.
With love and openness, we can overcome ignorance and fear. It is our right as the people, and my duty as a United States MARINE written into our constitution by our founding fathers, entrusted to us, by the people, to ensure that our liberty, freedom, and the constitution never again become the subjugation of the corruption that we have wrought upon ourselves. We must take back our country, and give it to the people. So let us open our hearts, take responsibility, and make our HOPE become our reality. Lets begin REVOLUTION. His name
Dr. Ron Paul
Posted by: Tim Gallien USMC | February 03, 2008 at 05:28 PM
It's nice to See Ron in third and hopefully wins 2nd. I still don't think the average person knows who the heck ron paul is. Seriously, the typical person could care less about the election. They are so fed up with the crooked politicans they just tune out. I think back to Michigan where only 1 million people voted in the primary and there were 6 million registered voters. These are the people we want! I wish Ron would go independent, but I don't think he will, but he has started a movement, and hopefully a new party some day. Don't be discouraged Ron Paul people the fight has just begun. Remember this is a grass roots movement, first we go local, then state, then national. With the constituation as our guide there will be no stopping us!
Posted by: Johnny | February 03, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Just wish we had someone like Ron Paul in the Uk. Outstanding individual, Why is Mccain leading in the election. He seems so unstable..scary
Posted by: Alan | February 03, 2008 at 07:20 PM
For those of you plugging Romney:
Listen to me. I'm from Massachusetts. I didn't like Mitt Romney as our governor.
The thought of him becoming president makes me want to move out of the country.
He made it mandatory that everyone get health insurance. The people that couldn't afford it before
can't afford it now. Plus, they get fined if they don't get it? Are they supposed to get the money out of thin air?
That sounds familiar. Our tax money will be paying for "The Big Dig" for many years in this state. I can't blame
Romney completely for that but he definately had some part in it. He also proposed to privatize the state colleges in Mass.
Posted by: Snipnose | February 03, 2008 at 07:38 PM
DR RON PAUL IS the right man for the USA!!!!!!!!!!
and people we should not let those other clowns screw us up again!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ASKO | February 03, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Greetings Mr. Malcom:
Thank you for having the moxie to at least mention Dr. Ron Paul when reporting on the various Republican primaries and caucuses. That is much more than most media reporters do.
One small point of criticism, however. You appear to have fallen into the widespread media trap of refering to Dr. Paul as the "longshot", that is when they even bother to mention him. It is interesting that I've yet to have seen any other media outlet refer to any of the previous six Republican candidates (who have now fallen by the wayside) as "longshots". This stigmatized prefix, reserved by most media writers only for Dr. Ron Paul, subtly implies a negative assessment of Dr. Ron Paul, reducing his chances for victory in the subconscious minds of many readers.
Why not refer to him as a "swelling minority supported" candidate? Or a "champion of timely change" candidate? Or the "real threat to the compromised establishment" candidate? Or perhaps simply a "revolutionary Republican" candidate?
Please, whatever you want to call him, please kindly drop the "longshot" label.
Thanks and be well,
John Schumacher-Hardy, South Lancaster, MA
Posted by: John Schumacher-Hardy, South Lancaster, MA | February 03, 2008 at 08:33 PM
Romney is just another big buisness freak like BUSH. He (romney) supports Bush almost as much as the faciast dictator McCain.
Vote Ron Paul 2008
Posted by: aric tyler | February 03, 2008 at 09:14 PM
The actual number of Maine delegates he won in the non-binding caucuses will be determined at a state convention in May"
Stop making it look like Romney actually won in Maine when all your doing is predicting he won.
Posted by: bz | February 03, 2008 at 09:56 PM
re: "longshot"
I almost posted about that yesterday, today I am.
You should use a qualifier for every candidate or just drop it.
Maybe something like...
"McCain, the war monger candidate" or "Huckabee, the Jesus freak candidate"
Anyway, just like at the track, when the "longshot" comes in,
we'll all win big!
Posted by: AAAAANDRE | February 03, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Please. Many have asked why all of the free media coverage has been given over the last year to GOP'ers McCain, Huck, and Mittens. I would like to know why too.
It's not like Ron Paul is Tom Tancrado, or Sam Brownback! RON has a huge base of support. RON has a continually growing base of support. RON is the LARGEST FUNDRAISER in the fourth quarter of all the GOP candidates! And all of this was grassroots, $19.9 MILLION DOLLARS of support by the people! The news media didn't cover this. They say all the campaigns are broke, except romney. iT'S NOT TRUE.
McCain is IN DEBT.....TO WHO????
Romney is IN DEBT.....TO WHO????
Hucakbee is IN DEBT...TO WHO????
Ron Paul is not in debt, and he is funded my you, and me, and your neighbor, and the news media is not covering it.
GOOGLE RON PAUL. Look at the issues. He stands for and has stood for what YOU WANT.
Filter your choice through the constitution, not the news media,. Think for yourself! There is no other choice. George Bush has ruined our country, and Ron Paul is poised to take it back, for us!
http:www.ronpaul2008.com
Posted by: Dan ~ Longview, WA. | February 03, 2008 at 10:41 PM