Another tear or two from Hillary Clinton
There's been another emotional moment for Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail, again coming on the eve of an incredibly crucial day in her quest for the Democratic presidential nomination.
But, unlike the case in New Hampshire exactly four weeks ago, this latest incident was sparked by a simple trip down memory lane -- rather than a voter's question about the rigors of campaigning. So its effect likely will be nil, especially since -- again, unlike the New Hampshire moment -- it's not getting incessant play on cable television.
Clinton gave warning that today's event in New Haven, Conn., might get to her. The Times' Peter Nicholas was there, and he reports she cautioned that she felt "nostalgic" as she arrived for the gathering at the Yale Child Study Center. That was where, as the Associated Press reports, she first got involved in children's issues while a student at Yale Law School (where she also met husband Bill Clinton).
As the AP story goes on to relate, she was introduced by a longtime friend, Penn Rhodeen, who recalled ...
her showing up on his doorstep in purple bell-bottoms. As he aptly put it: "It was so 1972."
It was during Rhodeen's remarks that Clinton wiped a few tears from her eyes, which she took note of when it was her turn to speak: "I said I would not tear up. Already we're not exactly on that path."
Here's a clip (though her new misty-eyed moment is not captured).
-- Don Frederick
Johanna Neuman is a veteran Washington correspondent for both The Los Angeles Times and USA Today, having covered presidents and politics as far back as Ronald Reagan. A former president of the White House Correspondents Assn., she authored a book on media and foreign policy, “Lights, Camera, Wars.” Most recently she was co-author of the
Some tear. God will you media ever quite?
I wonder how many Americans are going to want this in the White House
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc
I have had it with the obama team believing they are entitled to the Presidency and after their free ride from the media their playing the race card and smearing Hillary through rightwing tactics. I would vote McCain over obama anyday of the week. Sorry I can't condone what I have seen, read, heard coming from the obama camp, media, leftwing crackheads, and the rightwing crackheads. You people make me sick.
Posted by: sjl | February 04, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Actually, the Boston Globe story on HRC's Yale appearance says, don't believe the people who say she "cried" again. Not true.
Hmmmmm ..... you guys!
Posted by: Cagey | February 04, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I live in New Hampshire, but lived most of my life in Southern California. On the night of the New Hampshire primary when Obama lost to Clinton by a narrow margin, it was a shock, especially because the polls said it would be otherwise. Did Hillary's tearing up make a difference? Later she admitted that it could have helped sway the women's vote her way. That night a D.C. attorney staying with us while working on the Obama campaign, came home and we discussed it. He said this, "Remember, she can only do that ONCE." Well, guess what? Here we go again! And again it's just before - not A primary - but many primaries! She's good! I just hope the people voting tomorrow don't fall for it, as they did here in New Hampshire. I hope people send her a message telling her that it doesn't work twice. I am sure the fact that Barack Obama has closed in on her has her very nervous, but gee whiz, kids, let's not let this actress pull the wool over anybody else's eyes! Give me a break! .
Posted by: Penny Warren | February 04, 2008 at 01:06 PM
It is easy to win campaigns in America these days. Just tear up and they will come vote for you ....
Posted by: Peter Brown | February 04, 2008 at 01:17 PM
I was voting for Obama until Oprah got involved.
Oprah, Now I think of obama like the beetles or a rock club. The young like him like a rock star.
A rock start could not run the country. So my vote goes with a real change person, a person who represents class and quality.
Hillary is a person who doesn’t have to use Oprah to sell herself.
Opera is so un-American she makes me sick too. Recently she had an entire show on Lexus. A car not made in the US and the only thing green about it is US money going to Japan.
I lost all respect for the MEGA advertiser of foreign goods.
G
Posted by: A concerned american | February 04, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Yes, a nostalgic moment from her past with an image of Hillary as a good public servant. But please remember that she spent ONE year doing such work and the next FIFTEEN years in a corporate law firm. Where are her corporate colleagues? Check the Clintons' current bank accounts and off-shore business dealings. More image manipulation--spin and distortions-- is not what our country needs to turn the page. It is more of the status quo of Bush-Clinton-Bush--and do we need Clinton again to "clean up" after the second Bush, who got in to clean up after Bill's lies under oath? It isn't just the tears for on-camera prime time, it's the lies on her public record that are so horribly characteristic of the Clinton campaign. As a feminist, I do not want Hillary as our first woman president.
Posted by: shirlin | February 04, 2008 at 01:23 PM
I did my Ph.D. work at the Yale Child Study Center and I remember her visiting as first lady. The faculty kept discussing how her work at the center was very minimal and she was not at all remarkable as a student. They remember Bill was noteworthy, but she was just average.
Its interesting that she didn't get any Yale faculty to speak about her. The people she worked with are still there, but like most professors they are probably voting for Obama.
I hope the voting public doesn't fall for these crocodile tears. It may have worked once, but surely it won't work again.
Posted by: Julia, Pasadena, CA | February 04, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Well it seems that we may have reached a turning point in the Democratic campaign last night. Senators Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama turned to each other and the Democratic Party instead of turning up their noses at each other.
At one point, I thought the two candidates were going to high five, which is better than the high sign. Maybe it was due in part that the debate was held in Hollywood, California. Maybe it was because it is just down to two candidates and there is no longer anyone to separate them from an all out brawl. Or maybe they finally realized that they are not the only party and that the republicans are the ones they should have been going after in the first place. Either way, things seemed to have gone swimmingly this time around.
Now I don't know about you folks, but in the beginning of the debate, I was a little nervous about the fact that they were both seated so close to each other. I half expected to see some fencing; you know similar to what you would see in an ultimate fighting event. After all, it was Hollywood home of the lights, camera and action city! What was different about tinsel town last night is that all the stars seemed to be out, in one room, acting civil, which proves you can have the Hollywood untouchables in one room, even if it is not about them. I did see something that slightly bothered me that I have never really thought of until this debate. It was a moment when everyone seemed to be agreeing on some point to do with President Bush. By the way, want a neat party trick? If you want to unify a large group of people, just talk about President Bush-- that always seems to do it. Ok sorry, back to my point!
So all were agreeing on something and applauding something of one of the candidates and, as the thunderous applause broke out; and, at the moment they cut to a shot of Ugly Betty star clapping, she was wearing a Hillary button. There is one issue, OTHER than the fact that they call the program UGLY Betty, but that I will deal with later.
The fact that they reinforced candidate creditability with a star on camera and a support button seems wrong to me. Endorsements drive every know product and certainly drive Hollywood itself. But let's make it clear that what a Hollywood star does on their off-screen LIFE and the their on-screen LIFE is normally and, sometimes, drastically different. To sway folks to vote for a candidate of change based on an actors who spend their lives changing into something different each day is just not right. Any decision to make a choice based purely on what something looks like without checking into it and how it works, is like buying a used car that has a new paint job and shinny rims. Looks great but does it run? You won't know 'till you kick the tires and take it for a test drive. As much as our candidates look for folks to endorse them, the folks we should consider as credible should be the folks in the areas we feel are important to the issues; and, unless they are being nominated for a SAG award, let’s leave Hollywood out of this one. Well now, enough of all of that.
I want to pass by you folks an epiphany I had the other day. I was at the Obama rally here is Phoenix, AZ. I could go on and on about this whole experience, but I will wait and give it its own full, blank piece of paper at a later date. All I will tell you is, if you ever wanted to get the sensation of walking on water, this was the event for you. The thousands of folks there were energized to be there and, when Obama walked out, we all became electrified. By the end, we were enlightened. We could have lit the city for the next 10 years … But, here is what I noticed: Of the thousands of folks that were there to see Obama, I am guessing that 50% were 30 – 70 years old, the other 50% were young folks, kids, teens, 20s; and, they were all fired up to meet this man. The man of change. Here is what dawned on me, where as Gorge Bush and all the rest of the politicians ON BOTH SIDES have turned the American voters off from voting, ("My vote does not matter.")
Obama has reached down to the young folks, gotten them to become present, and COUNTED for. If we elect this candidate, we not only gain a qualified president, but a unified country. For the past 20 so years, we have become victims of our government. Sitting on the sidelines hoping, or losing hope, that things would work out-- and they have not.
If Obama becomes president, we will usher in a new generation of interactive voters. The children are our future; and, if we don't elect him, I fear we will lose even more of the heart of our country, not just the young at heart, THE YOUNG will lose their heart for our country. I really do wish that Hillary had the younger audience as well, but she does not. They say that we all work to be better than our parents. But, what they don't tell us is that it is our job as the parent to set our kids on that path.
The last Democratic debate was exciting to see these two fine candidates agree on at least one thing, and that was that whichever way voters went, the party would follow what the PEOPLE of the United States want! If you think that the Super Bowl is a great ticket event, hang on to your playbooks, Patriots! Wait and see if it does not wind up being: Clinton and Obama OR Obama and Client.
Not just the dream team . . . THE TEAM!
Posted by: Will Roberts | February 04, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I am tired of this ripping apart of Hillary Clinton from no other than Obama supporters. I am so disgusted with Obama supporters more than anyone else in this field, and as a result, I have lost much respect for Mr. Obama himself. There is always a consequence for playing the high road, of hope and optimisim; your political maneuvers come out worse and more disheartening, like his recent pamphlets against Hillary's universal healthcare plan or continuing to say she is the "politics of the past" and "divisive," as if these are not negative comments. Then to be so dog-eyed with a Kennedy endorsement that reeks of insider, Democratic establishment. Anything to win! Don't get me wrong, I know Hillay and all the other candidates play the same game. But I can have change and experience. I can have BOTH. As one Congresswoman hailed in California, whom supports Mrs. Clinton: "I have hope, I need HELP!"
Posted by: Sarah | February 04, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Funny how she only tears up when the polls show her going down. Hillary just as fake as they come. I wonder how many tears she shed for the folks she hurt while working for the coporate law defense Rose Law Firm.
Posted by: blkjazz | February 04, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Clinton faced a question about electability in a union hall in St. Louis. A supporter asked what she would do to ensure that Democrats don't "shoot ourselves in our own foot this time."
"This is going to be open season once again, and we need to nominate somebody with the experience and the fortitude and know-how to take what they send our way and send it right back," Clinton replied.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I will NEVER vote for Clinton!
All Mrs. Clinton can do is fire back negatives.
Refreshingly, Mr. Obama rises above this sort of knee-jerk reaction so that solutions can be found for everyone - not just Democrats.
We're not just hiring a non-Bush, we're electing a diplomat - an ambassador for America to the rest of the world.
Mr. Obama represents a dignified head of state that Mrs. Clinton could never hope to match.
It is inconceivable to me that ANYONE can be undecided when the choice is so plain.
Posted by: Vote On Paper | February 04, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Doesn't anyone realize that Hillary Clinton is 50 years old?
Why is this significant? She's menopausal! Tears are only part of what she will demonstrate over the next several years if elected president.
Do we truly want a leader that suffers from mood swings, depression, memory lapses, irritability, sleep disturbances, and diffiiculty in concentrating?
The ramifications could be deadly.
Posted by: Nan | February 04, 2008 at 02:51 PM
The media needs to not cover this. This woman and her husband have been the most manipulative people in the world for far too long. Let's go ahead and let them retire in NEw York or Arkansas or Florida or wherever they are "from" now. Anywhere but the white house please. PLEASE.
That said maybe Hillary should look into a career in Hollywood. The day before a primary again!?!?!?!?!?
Posted by: tj | February 04, 2008 at 03:02 PM
It's interesting to me that none of you have really talked about the issues. It's sad that we will have a generation of young voters that have grabbed onto a idealistic celebrity approach to politics that really at its core has no real substance. You talked about her emotions on the campaign trail and not the substance of her campaign. Personally, I find it sexist. I am in my 20s and was raised to be knowledgeable on political matters. I've done my research and know the issues. Words won't clean up this country by a naive idealistic approach, we need a realistic hard working candidate and her name is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Heather | February 04, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Looks like more woody woodpecker tears to me!
Posted by: Paulie D | February 04, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Alligator tears!!!
Hillary would do anything to get elected. Don't be fooled. She played the same card in New Hampshire and now she is playing it again. On top of that we don't need a weak teary eyed president.
Posted by: Peter G. | February 04, 2008 at 03:41 PM
"Actually, the Boston Globe story on HRC's Yale appearance says, don't believe the people who say she "cried" again. Not true.
Hmmmmm ..... you guys!"
Baloney. British papers are showing photos from Yale, same yellow suit etc, where her eyes are welled up with tears. Serves Clinton supporters, including U.S. media, to hide those photos away and say "Not true!".
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23435561-details/Dejected+Hillary+sheds+a+tear+as+Obama+surges+ahead/article.do
Posted by: G.G. | February 04, 2008 at 04:06 PM
I had a dream the other night
When everything was still.
I dreamt of Madame President
And her playboy husband, Bill.
The country was in disarray--
An atmosphere of hate.
Republicans fought Democrats
In every single state.
"How can this be?" moaned Hillary.
"We really should be one!"
"It's all YOUR fault!" said First Guy Bill.
"I'm having too much fun!"
"He's right!" said Fang, the First Pit Bull.
"I hope that you'll confess:
Iraq, health care, the economy...
You've created quite a mess."
"And your nominees are terrible,
A very poor selection.
The only thing you want to do
Is win the next election!"
Hearing all these horrid words,
The Prez began to cry.
"It worked well in New Hampshire--
It's worth another try!"
I woke up shaking, frightened.
"Oh no! What can I do?"
Then I knew it was a dream.
"Thank God it wasn't true!"
I'm voting for Obama.
And I really think YOU should.
'Cause Clinton in the White House
Will make George Bush look good.
Posted by: Richard Fassler | February 04, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Nan, Hillary's 60 years old -- not 50...
Posted by: Rocky N. Roll | February 04, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Nan said, "Doesn't anyone realize that Hillary Clinton is 50 years old?"
I'm pretty sure Hillary's 60 years old -- not 50...
Posted by: Rocky N. Roll | February 04, 2008 at 04:58 PM
She has ALOT of nerve trying that STRATEGIC cry again. Unbelievable.
Hillary said that she will garnish your wages even if you do not agree with her version of the UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE plan....
I'm cool...No thanks
Obama emphasis is on affordable and option....you guys better wise up.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Optimist | February 04, 2008 at 04:59 PM
How many sexist comments, including the article, around here. Can it be that the U.S. is so backward culturally that an accomplished woman running for president should be eviscerated and mocked for a human emotion? Please acknowledge misogeny before hitting your keyboard.
-Marian
Posted by: Marian | February 04, 2008 at 05:05 PM
She voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq without reading the National Intelligence Estimate on the subject, a vote which has been called the most important vote sine the Gulf of Tonkin resolution that led us headlong into Vietnam. She didn't even read the NIE, people!!! How is she going to make good decisions without looking into the facts of the matter first? She has a track record, alright, she has a track record of reckless disregard for the truth, and a failure to exercise due diligence in carrying out her duties as a Senator. Her failure to read the NIE reminds me of another important government document that one of our leaders failed to read, with disastrous consequences, PDB titled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US".
Posted by: observer | February 04, 2008 at 05:15 PM
I am so tired of only hearing the negative reporting of Hillary Clinton. Obama has been givena free ride by the media and the Republicans -- what is up with that? Let's do our due diligence and not simply elect the next pop star. Our country is in deep economic trouble and we are getting more reportig on Brittany than that. I agree that alot of credibility was lost when Oprah stepped in. I was on the fence awhile ago but the Paul Krugman health care article in the NY Times put me solidly for Hillary. This time please let's elect some substance rather than one more uniter like Bush claimed to be.
Posted by: Jamie | February 04, 2008 at 05:23 PM
To the Obama supporters --
Before you all let your biases get the better of you, please read the following articles that disclose Mr. Obama's stance(s) on the nuclear issue, gun control and just plain helping people keep their jobs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-galesburg_obama_webfeb01,0,4286527.story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080202/ap_on_el_pr/obama
This doesn't sound like the actions of a man who supposedly will lead us to change. It sounds like the actions of a man who will lead us to more of the same.
So, let's talk issues. Mr. Obama should really stop running his ad that says he is for universal health care because it just isn't so. Paul Krugman relays new analysis done by Jonathan Gruber, a leading health care economist from MIT which reveals that Obama's health care plan will cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, $4,400 per insured person. Clinton's plan with mandates would cover every uninsured at a cost of $2,700 per person.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/opinion/04krugman.html
Sit back and contemplate all these. If it sounds too good to be true... then it probably is too good to be true.
Posted by: tellmesomethingnew | February 04, 2008 at 05:35 PM
LA Times, you're just as bad as CNN. Did you even bother to view the video and understand the context. There is a big difference between crying and having your eyes well up from being touched by another's gracious introduction or words. I ask, why wasn't anyone reporting Romney having cried tears with major headlines like "Romney, the Republican Crybaby". Could it be that your reporting is biased? Actually, that's more of a rhetorical question because we all know the reason why: double standards.
To those blinded Obama supporters and all of the misogynists who abound with hatred, I say this to you: Remember that you get the government that you deserve, and I'm willing to bet the majority of you voted for George W. Bush.
Posted by: Linda Hernandez | February 04, 2008 at 05:40 PM
My, my, my, the Clinton supporters are in an even more bile mood than normal. So full of hatred and spite. But I digress, it makes all the more sense when one considers that the candidates attract those who share the same values, see themselves just a little bit in them. That explains the fact that over the past three weeks, on numerous boards and comment sections across many newspaper media, THE MOST HATEFUL, condescending, racist, comments have been posted by hardcore Clinton supporters. One only has to read the few comments here to see what kind of mood, what kind of division her nomination would bring. Bush was a polarizing figure for the Democrats, it would be a shame if an even bigger polarizer came from our own side.
Posted by: Larry M | February 04, 2008 at 05:55 PM
To all of you screaming that people are being misogynists, do you not realize what that makes you, when you are so willing to excuse the corruption, excuse the dirty tricks, just to have a woman in the White House? Zealot, Radical Feminist, Sexist. You see, labels are two way streets, and usually deserving to those who would roll them out in the first place!
Posted by: Larry M | February 04, 2008 at 06:05 PM
Reading this: mon dieu what a bunch of ignorant illiterate people in the US. Sometimes people wish the entire US would just collapse in a massive landslide into the Pacific Ocean. Look at you! Read what you have written! You people are a disgrace! Leaders of the free world? You're clowns is what you are!
Posted by: Pourreaux | February 04, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified
candidate for president based on her "record," which she says includes
her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" -
and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that
record includes:
- As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a
process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill
Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that
she would "demonize "anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she
couldn't even get it to a votein a Congress controlled by her own party.
(And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and
Senate.)
- Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General.
Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to
withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno.
Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as "my worst
mistake."
- Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights
Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to
be withdrawn.
- Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince
Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department,
White House staff, and the Treasury,respective ly. Hubbell was later
imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.
- Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig
Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When
Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI
files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by
White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him.
(FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene Confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee
in 1996 both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingst
one. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after
serving seven presidents for over thirty years.)
- In order to open "slots" in the White House for her friends the Harry
Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be
awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office
fired; they were reported to the FBI for "gross mismanagement" and their
reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy
Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House
funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two
hours.
- Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption
squad" and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the
Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater
documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special
Prosecutor After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent,
Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying
about and later admitting his affairs.
---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
---- And Bill was impeached by the House.
---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction
of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, "I do not
recall," "I have no recollection, " and "I don't know" 56 times under
oath).
- Hillary accepted the traditional First Lady's role of decorator of the
White House at Christmas, but in a unique Hillary way. In 1994, for
example, The First Lady's Tree in the Blue Room (the focal point each
year) was Decorated with drug paraphernalia, sex toys, and pornographic
ornaments, all personally approved by Hillary as the invited artists'
depictions of the theme, "The Twelve Days of Christmas."
- Hillary wrote "It Takes a Village," demonstrating her Socialist
viewpoint.
- Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had
never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support.
Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to
get financial support.
- Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in
White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.
- In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "woman card" by
portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her.
- Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National
Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their
time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and
her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those
records.)
- As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major
legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend
to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems
of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.
- Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she
has since disavowed.
Questions that need answering, Clinton supporters!
Posted by: Larry M | February 04, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Hillary what happened to the 200,000 jobs you crowed so loudly about that you were going to create for upstate New York. That was over seven years ago,it looks like less jobs to me When you were on the wallmart board where was your support for the unions and fair paying jobs ? What have you really done in your 35 years of experence ? I know you were a great supporter of NAFTA ,it may have helped wallmart but not the USA. How about the great health care reform you could not get thru a Democratic controled goverment . As first lady did you help the Democrats lose the house and senate with your divisive personality ? You did vote for the war ,are you Mc Cain light ?
Posted by: paulie D | February 04, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Oh, no, not again! She is using crying to get her way and it is wrong and pathetic. As a woman, I am outraged. She obviously understands she is the first woman in the history of this country with a good shot to become president. She obviously understands that because she used the argument in her advantage to get women to vote for her. But she doesn't seem to care much because she is feeding into all the nasty stereotypes about women using emotions to get their way. If the first woman with a good shot to become president is perceived to have gotten there because she cried at the right time, this won't be a historical moment for anyone. This will be a confirmation of all the misogynistic misconceptions ever put out there. I was not her supporter but I didn't particularly dislike her either. Well, now I do.
Posted by: Adriana S | February 04, 2008 at 07:32 PM
I agree, people are criticizing clinton all over because she has such fame along the past decade or so. Obama has been a senator for 2 years and he is getting a free ride. I admit he is a talented speaker, but you can let yourself get blindly mesmerized by his eloquent linguistic skills. Hillary may be a "polarizing" figure (I disagree, she is a good person), but she really has a plan for this country. Obama, on the other hand, repeatedly talks about change. Who can argue with that? The world can never be a utopia; there is always something you can change to make it better. But when it comes down to specifics, everybody has their own different opinions, therefore, Obama with his current argument will not satisfy a majority of the population as president. In the Los Angeles debate, it was pretty clear that Clinton knew what she was doing while Obama was struggling to stay aboard the ship. Foreshadowing, anyone? Also, if you examine both their messages, you will find very little differences about what they plan to do. Here, Hillary's superior experience pushes her far beyond Obama. I truly believe she is the best candidate for the next president.
HILLARY '08
Posted by: Andrew | February 04, 2008 at 08:40 PM
This time it is going to BACKFIRE big-time! You know, I really thought those tears in New Hampshire were for real ! First time shame on you, second time shame on me !
Posted by: Lina | February 04, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Riiiiiight..Hillary warns reporters in ADVANCE that she will be getting "nostalgic." Please...she is so calculating ,she is like a robot. Scary.
And hey concerned citizen, did it ever occur to you that Hillary is using her philandering husband to campaign the same way you accuse Obama of using Oprah?
No Clinton dysnasty!!
Posted by: Barbara | February 04, 2008 at 09:28 PM
Who is Vince Foster? Why isn't Hillary crying for him ?
Posted by: Lights | February 04, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Right wing hypocrites and liberal knuckleheads, here is your chance. When the dust settles we will have a wishy washy candidate who is nothing but a smooth talker with a spine of jelly who will be the democratic nominee. let us see that pretty applause you gave mr. bush at the state of Union , mr. president wanna be. How all the left wingers love you even though you have no experience and you are gonna get plastered in general election. Mr. Obama has never taken a position and held firm on it, but he loves to change his position as it suits him. Eight years of prosperity and no war is a record any one should be proud of. But not the knuckleheads.
Posted by: bala R | February 04, 2008 at 11:35 PM
A concerned american, you're correct. Hillary does not need Oprah's
support. Yet, without her continued ties to Bill Clinton, she would not be a New York senator. If it weren't for her sticking with an adulterous, lying husband, she'd be just another face in the crowd.
Posted by: Joe | February 04, 2008 at 11:38 PM
This constant ragging of Obama cry babies against Hillary because she is showing her emotional side is goint o back fire. It shows the type of supporters that bama encourages - petty hypocrites.
Obama is not the Messiah, he has his scandals - and one is going to jail just in time for the presidential elections in November. And yet, he has the audacity to elevate himself as the combination of JFK, MLK, Ronald Reagan and Oprah combined... He even compares himself to RFK and Cesar Chavez whose scions and compatriots have said that it is Hillary who is carrying those two men's mantle.
Obama is a self-promoter. A typical Chicago politico - all windbag. I dont trust the guy.
Posted by: FJ Stratford | February 04, 2008 at 11:53 PM
It's most difficult to imagine how people see her as their leader at this time in our history when nations have become our aggressive enemies or their allies who even hang teenage girls who defend themselves against rapist. No matter the tears, or especially because of the tears that look weak to THEM. The leaders and decision makers there see no reason to not plan to attack America. Unfortunately, it isn't the best time for us to have a female president. Wisdom wouldn't be our guide. Yet, I feel for her.
Not only that, I'll copy/paste something scary on experience issue:
Senator Clinton has based her campaign on an erroneous claim to greater legislative and administrative experience. Former President Clinton talks up her role in his administration on the campaign trail but pointedly refuses to release any documents that would provide greater details on her actual activities there. It is broadly understood that Hillary spearheaded the response team that staved off Republican attacks and spun the many scandals of the Clinton years. As to her Senate record, no one in the press has had the diligence to lay out her record for the public to assess.
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included: **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
In all since enter the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record for someone who supposedly has no record according to the spin meisters and mindless twits. I challenge Clinton supporters to name a single legislative accomplishment that demonstrates her superior experience.
Posted by: Mark
No thanks!
Blessings,
noba Q
Posted by: noba Q | February 05, 2008 at 02:03 AM
F J Stratford, I understand what the Kennedy family meant comparing him to JFK in some way. I was downtown Dallas Nov 22, 1963. I went to see Obama. I was up close to both. What I witnessed in the audience of Obama was MORE electrifying than Kennedy "that day." I don't know of other times. The family knew JFK, I didn't.
Blessings,
noba Q
Posted by: noba Q | February 05, 2008 at 02:12 AM
Noba Q,
Honey, get a life. No-one blogs a "book". Better yet, your extensive writings seems to look like you're a woman who shy's away from beauty parlors. Noba, you are a woman right?
Posted by: carnation | February 05, 2008 at 07:30 AM
To the blogger named "A concerned American",
Are you chemically embalanced? Because you're logic is way out on left field
!
You supported Obama...but Oprah...Obama campaign...turned rock groupies...Oprah-unAmerican...because show on Lexus...?
Mam, it's time to take your medication ! With a comment like that, I assume you are a woman, right?
Posted by: carnation | February 05, 2008 at 07:37 AM
I agree with blogger "SARAH". I'm tired of Hillary haters from the Obama team.
Now, that Caroline Kennedy, Maria Shriver Robert DeNiro, Oprah and Will Smith have endorsed Obama, all the "beautiful" Hollywood types are jumping on the band-wagon.
The blogger named Sarah and I, will not stand for this any longer. She's obese and ugly and I'm "vaginal-hygiened-challenged", so we no longer support Obama.
Unattractive women for Hillary - all the way -
Posted by: flo | February 05, 2008 at 07:46 AM
If you americans are so stupid to fall for this Clinton's other fake moment, then I'll realize you're not that intelligent as people suggests here. I really don't understand why there's many people up there blinded by that couple of the corrupt Clintons. FOR SURE, YOU'LL BURY YOURSELF ALIVE IF YOU DEMOCRATS DON'T CHOOSE OBAMA OVER CLINTON, YOU'LL NEVER WIN SHOULD YOU NOMINE HRC. They're so nasty and really don't care about you! THEY WANT BACK THE HOUSE AT ANY COST! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT? WHY DID SHE DO THE SAME AS SHE DID THE DAY BEFORE NH PRIMARY AGAIN? Aww, come on!
Posted by: OUTSIDER-SANTO-DOMINGO | February 05, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Who is Vince Foster, and why have people been talking about him? Who is he and why did he die?
Posted by: ed | February 05, 2008 at 09:42 AM
For you feminists out there...during Margaret Thatcher's terms as Prime Minister of Britain, did she ever shed any tears in public?
Hillary is NO Margaret Thatcher by a LONG, LONG shot. You see ladies, women like Margaret Thatcher, Anne Richards and Condoleeza Rice are three excellent examples of REAL WOMEN politicians and any gender would have NO problem voting for them.
They carved their own success with the "invisible" support from their spouses. Hillary is relying on her husbands tenure as commander-in-chief for her success, then has the audacity to expect the feminists of America to bite...
What an oxymoran Hillary, feminists do you see that? Or are you ladies so blinded and eager to have a first-ever woman president that you fail to see that this is NOT the right woman! Compare Hillary to;
MargaretThatcher, Prime Minister of Great Britian
Anne Richards, Governer of Texas
Condoleeza Rice, U.S. Secretary of State.
Okay, tell me, what are the names of their husbands?
Those feminists who vote for HIllary should do more than crying...maybe they should start thinking if Hillary is the RIGHT woman after all?
Posted by: ed | February 05, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Outsider from Santo Domingo,
I could not have said it better ! Thank you ! I guess the windows in America's "White-House" are so "fogged-up and dirty" our own people cannot even see straight. However, you on the outside looking in and can see CLEAR AS A BELL ! Keep blogging!
Posted by: zamcal | February 05, 2008 at 03:55 PM