Ron Paul endorsed by Jane Roe, yes, THAT Roe
What a coincidence!
On the 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court's historic Roe vs. Wade abortion ruling, the Roe of that landmark legal case endorsed libertarian turned Republican Rep. Ron Paul for president. Paul, a 10-term Texas congressman from the Houston area, is a 72-year-old Air Force veteran and ob-gyn who has surprised many political observers with the fervor of his bands of followers, not to mention his campaign's fundraising prowess that has outshined other Republican so-called front-runners.
"Jane Roe," whose real name is Norma McCorvey, turned against abortion a decade ago. In her endorsement Tuesday she said, "I support Ron Paul for president because we share the same goal, that of overturning Roe v. Wade. He has never wavered....
on the issue of being pro-life and has a voting record to prove it. He understands the importance of civil liberties for all, including the unborn."
Not surprisingly, Paul accepted the endorsement and said, "As much as I talk about economic liberties, and civil liberties and trying to avoid the killing overseas, I think the issue of life is paramount."
As outlined on his website, Paul's positions, which generally involve drastically cutting the federal government and ending the Iraq war as soon as possible, have attracted an eclectic band of disaffected but determined Democrats, Republicans and libertarians who gather online and in some 1,400 meet-up groups around the country to plan all kinds of imaginative demonstrations of their support.
Their devotion and donations made Paul likely the most successful Republican presidential fundraiser in the fourth quarter, accumulating some $20 million while other alleged front-runners had a difficult time and, like Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani, are now forced to trim campaign operations. According to Paul's website, he has raised another $3.3 million this quarter, enabling him to campaign and advertise widely.
Paul has consistently lagged far behind in the polls, which his fans say are frauds perpetrated by a corporate media determined to crush him,. However, Paul beat Giuliani in Iowa and Fred Thompson (who dropped out Tuesday) in New Hampshire, despite being barred from the GOP debate by Fox News, and came in a distant second in Nevada, beating all the Republican contenders except Mitt Romney.
In Florida today, however, we saw another side to the Paul campaign's passion as a band of his followers, instead of trying to present their candidate's case, banded together with some antiabortion protestors to prevent a Giuliani news conference in Palm Beach Gardens. At first the Paul followers, who have shadowed Giuliani in an attempt to gather publicity from a media that largely ignores the long-shot Paul, simply waved signs behind Giuliani's head to get them in TV pictures.
But when the former New York mayor attempted to hold a brief news conference, the Paul supporters joined with some antiabortion activists to shout the candidate down. According to the Associated Press, after several minutes of attempting to answer reporters' questions on Iraq, the economy and his campaign, Giuliani gave up in the din. And the news session moved inside.
--Andrew Malcolm
While some people might think the Paul supporters should have been more polite, I think that they were justified. Mr. Guliani's many passionate, knowledgeable supporters are welcome to show up at a Ron Paul event and try and justify their support for Mr. Guliani. Obviously, they know there's a line that the Constitution draws and that journalistic etiquette draws, and, well, no matter how bad the news wants to make magic with Guliani's message, Paul supporters will always be there to make their voices heard. Now, that's even when it annoys the hell out of you.
Bummer? Maybe for you. Justified? Hells yeah it is, open the Constitution.
Posted by: Matt | January 23, 2008 at 02:41 AM
"Paul has consistently lagged far behind in the polls, which his fans say are frauds perpetrated by a corporate media determined to crush him,"
As a Paul supporter I think you should frame this quote in bronze. Oh the Drama! Priceless.
Posted by: Nash | January 23, 2008 at 02:45 AM
keeping his eye on the prize. it's happening.
Posted by: Logan Howard | January 23, 2008 at 03:10 AM
Andrew,
You got it all wrong again! We Paul supporters don't just wave signs behind Giuliani's head. We wave them behind his whole body: his psterior, his back...anywhere you find Giuliani, you'll find ron Paul signs trailing his elbows. I heard that someone stuck a rEVOLution sticker to his tie and somoene tatooed the entire Constitution on the back of his enormous teeth while he was sleeping (though it might have been Huckabee because people confuse weasel teeth with beaver teeth).
Don't get me wrong, I like Giuliani. Being a child who is afraid of the dark, I need his protection from terrorists and I celebrate his brithday every September eleventh. I'm just saying that, if his Secret Service agents cannot protect him on the way to his current mistress'/next wife's house, we're gonna put some stickers on the guy. It's not wrong to advertise and I'm sure he thinks it's funny because he's always wearing that supecilious smile.
We're equal opportunity about this, by the way. We don't just put stickers on the long-shot darkhorses with low prmary numbers and quixotic bids for the White House. We've affixed stickers to Romney's frosted temples, Fred Thompson's trophy wife, and McCain's Senate record. We put a Hillary Sticker on Obama and an Obama sticker on Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer punched John Edwards with his Bill Richardson ring so that's gonna leave a cool-looking bruise, but any bruise on John Edwards' face would be cool-looking.
Finally, get your facts straight. We don't shadow Giuliani. He's always following us looking for fundraising tips. We decided to start a money bomb for him on the anniversary of Demagoguery Day (it's a holiday in Venezeula). Statistics show that Giuliani has a good chance of out-fundrasing Paul and sweeping the election...wait...no, the statistics don't show that.
Posted by: Grizzle | January 23, 2008 at 03:18 AM
You gotta love Doctor Paul. I surely would not want a doctor that is not as respectful of life as he is. I was initially against Ron Paul when I first heard of him and was going to take my normal anarchistic view of life. Make enough money to do what I want, obey the rules, go to another country where the rules are OK if you really want to do something like have an abortion in another country or another state in the United States that allows it.
You have to respect the abortion doctors as well. I'm sure there will be some state that accepts their practice to support the free thinking decisions of Americans. There really are cases you don't want to have a baby. Lot's of cases, like incest where it would damage our species and common worldwide social values. You must think about the rest of the world. Talk to them, trade with them..
I mean, the more and more I listen to Doctor Paul, the more awake I feel. Like I have been dormant, dominated by skulls and bones my whole life. But now I hear a message of freedom where people will learn to accept who I am and I can learn to accept them. Respectful of their constitutional liberties and fundamental rights. In the light of the US Constitution, ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. It is the context of the document's executive summary. I can imagine that the freemasons on board at the time would not have realized they would succeed in the end to destroy the very document they loved. Yet their is treachery at the top of that pyramid.
Ezekiel 37, Samuel 8
These bible passages describe what the CFR candidates have put before us today on the CFR media. We have rejected the LORD. Look at Huckabee, he is straight out of Samuel 8. He is an evangelical. He has created HIS OWN religion to get what he wants. We reject kings. We want the lamb that is Ron Paul.
PS: Although I am not religious, I know these facts because I ACCEPT my brothers and sisters.
Peace,
Diogenes of Sinope
Posted by: Diogenes of Sinope | January 23, 2008 at 03:30 AM
"...libertarian turned Republican Rep. Ron Paul "
RON PAUL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REPUBLICAN!
He ran as a Libertarian in 1987, he has spent the other 71 years of his life as a Republican. Elected to congress 10 times AS A REPUBLICAN.
The only difference between ignorance and lies is intent. Either way, please get you facts/ethics straight before you try to influence others.
(He's always been a Republican except when he wasn't, when he changed to the Libertarian Party in 1988 to run for president as its candidate.)
Posted by: Amadine | January 23, 2008 at 03:35 AM
Malcolm - thanks for doing your part to start countering the obvious media bias against Paul. This is the type of coverage FNC or another outlet might give if they weren't hell bent on destroying Paul's campaign even if it means turning a blind eye to the DEVALUATION OF OUR DOLLAR and an economic collapse.
It is striking, frightening, and surreal to watch Ron Paul's campaign stand utterly alone in addressing the root of our economic woes. In the debates during the Dr.'s economic policy lessons, the other GOP candidates typically have a look on their face that is a mixture of contempt and brazen idiocy... kind of like bigotry against a person from a foreign land that speaks a language they do not understand.
The other GOP candidates are clueless, and the financial "experts" that dismiss Paul do so without any substantive disagreement at all (unless, of course, you consider ad hominem attacks substantive)... and this kind of madness has been mainstream. But perhaps, with the Lion of economic collapse roaring outside our door, America might finally get a chance to hear from the Doctor.
Posted by: wsc321 | January 23, 2008 at 03:49 AM
Maybe you just haven't been following Ron Paul's campaign. Ron Paul has attended every debate ready to talk about real issues. Like a true foreign policy change for our Nation, a peaceful foreign policy, essentially the foreign policy of Thomas Jefferson. Yes, Thomas Jefferson's foreign policy, peace and friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none. A sane foreign policy, as opposed to an insane one where we think we can do whatever we want in the world and there will be no consequences.
Ron Paul, showing up at the debate to talk about true economic reform, fixing the dollar to stop these wild gyrations in our economy caused by the quasi-private-government Federal Reserve playing around with our money, stealing it's value right out of our bank accounts, causing inflation that slowly converts everyone's property back into taxable income. No real profit, but income tax to pay for the inflation, income tax to be paid because the dollar is worth less. Oil is the same price that it has always been, it's the dollar that is worth less.
And Rudy Giuliani, acting like the Court Jester, a Clown, giggling while Ron Paul debates real issues. Giuliani showing no respect to Dr. Ron Paul, acting like he is some sort of Fox News Laugh Track. If you and Giuliani think it appropriate for Giuliani to act like a child or some sort of court jester towards Dr. Ron Paul during these debates with no consequence, you are mistaken.
It's simply some of the younger Ron Paul supporters showing Rudy Giuliani the same respect that Giuliani showed Dr. Ron Paul during the debates. It may not be right, but it is certainly understandable. It's sad that Giuliani and a very few of Ron Paul's younger supporters detract from the real issues in this Presidential Election, but even worst is the lack of coverage of Ron Paul and the real issues he brings froward to the debates.
Posted by: a Rocket Scientist | January 23, 2008 at 04:07 AM
I am preemptively posting this to the inevitable posts of some liberals who will claim that abortion is a privacy issue and thus Ron Paul is somehow against privacy.
The abortion issue is a life/death issue, not a privacy issue. I do not have the right to kill my child in the privacy of my home, in the name of privacy. You could argue that the fetus is not alive, well that is a state issue to decide. According to the Constitution, states decide most all life and death issues such as when life begins and when life ends (when a coma patient is legally dead, euthanasia, etc.)
Basically a libertarian believes you are free to do anything in the world you want to do as long as you are not harming another person or their property. Killing a baby is harming. Or at least it is up to each state to decide when a baby’s life legally begins.
In any case, there’s no way a democratic congress would ever ratify any judge who would overturn Roe v. Wade. So abortion issue is a non-issue anyway.
Still it is interesting that Jane Roe who initiated the Federal interference in the abortion issue has turned around and is supporting Ron Paul who wants to remove abortion from the Federal Government.
Whatever you think of Ron Paul... He is absolutely the most interesting presidential candidate in the race. Although you wouldn’t know it from the MSM.
Ron Paul tops other candidates
- 4th quarter fundraising (at least for republicans)
- Fundraising records (6 million in one day)
- Volunteers (over 100,000 registered)
- GOP Straw poll wins
- Debate wins
- YouTube videos
- Online poll wins
- Web traffic (Google, etc.)
- Rally attendances
- Largest Blimp in America
- etc.
Yet media blackout over past year - strange.
For example, Time magazine has only mentioned Ron Paul 3 times in the past year (plus a little two page dismissive article). Time magazine even had a GOP cover story last month with several articles on all Republican candidates (except Ron Paul). They did not mention Ron Paul once in the whole magazine. Very strange. This is just one of many examples.
Still the Ron Paul revolution will continue regardless of what happens in the election. Americans are waking up and the internet provides a level playing field for truth to rise to the surface so we can start to elect representatives to Washington who will actually follow the Constitution for a change.
Thank you Andrew Malcolm for providing some of the best Ron Paul coverage in America. Too bad you're not running Time Warner AOL.
Posted by: Grace | January 23, 2008 at 04:14 AM
Great article. Ron Paul is gaining momentum!
If you want your future articles about Ron Paul to be seen by even more Ron Paul supporters and others following the Ron Paul movement you yourself can easily post a link to your articles at www.WhatTheySayAboutRonPaul.com.
Posted by: Lars | January 23, 2008 at 04:20 AM
What interests me is, of all current candidates, this fragile alliance between pro-life and pro-choice is only possible under Dr. Paul. It speaks to his credit, and an ability to unite our nation.
In my line of work, I've noticed any law or system set up in opposition to freedom of choice, is unenforceable. By way of example, I would submit drug and alcohol prohibitions, or various sodomy laws promulgated at times throughout our nation's history. Realistically, in an era of travel, internet access and FedEx, freedom of reproductive choice will flourish, irrespective of legality.
I am pro-choice and pro-Paul.
Posted by: Madeline Attorney | January 23, 2008 at 04:39 AM
I don't get the opening statement ("What a coincidence!"). Of course this endorsement was timed with the 35th anniversary of Roe v Wade. When press coverage is sorely lacking, the campaign has to practically make sure that the stars are aligned, the endorsements are significant, and a money bomb has been recently delivered in order to get even a brief mention in the news. And even then they only get it in the LA Times' blog (with subtle and not so subtle smugness and condescension), rather than on the front page.
Posted by: Scott R | January 23, 2008 at 04:46 AM
Thank you to the L.A. Times for presenting fair news stories about Dr. Paul.
I can't say that the shouting contest was in the best taste, but I can sympathize with the Ron Paul supporters at that news conference. Dr. Paul has consistently out performed Rudy Giuliani in everything except media attention. There are grassroots supporters everywhere trying to get the word out about Dr. No, and having most of the newsies just ignore the importance of the message, or scoff at it gets old after awhile. Add to this instance the fact that Rudy is pretty much the anti-thesis of Dr. Paul in many of his issues and I'm sure it doesn't take much to spark this type of thing.
Although incidents like that one get brought up a lot, most of the time supporters of Congressman Paul are just quietly trying to get a little bit of that free media support that all the other candidates are getting freely. The Ron Paul Revolution is not a bunch of whacko's, we are not a bunch of "young people", we are not a bunch of anti-war hippies, we are not any one group. The only thing that can truly be said about the Ron Paul volunteers is that they are passionate, and they are proud to have the first candidate in a long time that has a real message, and supports everything that made America great in the first place.
Posted by: Chad Underdonk | January 23, 2008 at 04:50 AM
"libertarian turned Republican Rep. Ron Paul"
Nice twist. He's always been a Republican but ran for President in 88 as a Libertarian.
You want to try and paint Paul SUPPORTERS as miscreants and rude, fine and we look at you in the same light.
So far, it looks like Giuliani is the loooong shot.
(I don't have to paint such behavior as rude. Most people can make their own judgment on that. And will.)
America WILL be taken back, with or without your help.
Posted by: Pleefer | January 23, 2008 at 04:55 AM
Thank you so much for your coverage of Dr. Ron Paul. It has been scarce in the mainstream media these days, despite the things you mention in this article.
It is almost cliche now-a-days as a GOP candidate to claim you are the only conservative in the race, and that you are the most consistent. But when you look at their records, you can easily see that it's a farce at best.
With Ron Paul, you can look back and you can see that is who he says he is. He ran on the EXACT same platform 20 years ago.
I PROUDLY support Ron Paul for President.
Posted by: Mike Knapp | January 23, 2008 at 04:57 AM
Andrew,
Thank you again for the coverage. I think it's fantastic that you interact with your bloggers. Win or lose, I think Ron Paul will be remembered as refining Internet campaigning. I don't necessarily consider the lack of media coverage as sinister or conspiratorial as much as perhaps a bit of over-reliance on the polls and the assumptions about pubic opinion that go with it. From there, the imbalance of coverage tends to be self-perpetuating.
Thanks again for the news and analysis!
(You bet, Darryl. Thanks for reading and taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate you and others coming back.)
Posted by: Darryl Schmitz | January 23, 2008 at 05:48 AM
I am pro_choice and support Ron Paul. The federal government needs to butt out of this topic and leave it to the States where it belongs.
Posted by: Robert Moore | January 23, 2008 at 05:54 AM
Grizzle you da' man! I laughed my butt off when I read your comments. And a huge thanks to Andrew Malcolm for having the courage to report on Ron Paul in a fair and balanced way.
Posted by: dawnroma | January 23, 2008 at 06:34 AM
As a strict Constitutionalist, Dr. Paul would agree that "We hold these truths to be self-evident. That we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights..That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." The right to life is not given by government, and can't be taken away by government, nor even by one's own mother! It is "inalienable"!
Posted by: ellen | January 23, 2008 at 06:36 AM
I am pro choice and pro Paul.
Posted by: Steve | January 23, 2008 at 06:37 AM
I don't understand this love-hate Ron Paul obsession of yours, all I know is that is giving the supporters a platform to support Ron Paul and inform those who read what you write about what he is really like. For that I thank you.
So what if Ron Paul is pro-life? He has stated that his position will have no effect if he is president, because he will leave that to the states.
That is like creating a hysteria because he has certain food preferences, oh no! he will outlaw eggplants...not.
I'm glad pro-life demonstrators joined the protesting of Guilliani, how sad when there are more Ron Paul supporters than Guilliani's around the supposedly "front runner...mphfff".
Ron Paul all the way!
2008
(Maybe I can help a little. I've never loved Ron Paul. I've never hated Ron Paul. Or any candidate. I tell stories about politics. Sometimes the candidate's supporters like them. Sometimes they don't. Thats the way it is. Right now on another item here some John Edwards supporters are angry and think I hate him because I wrote about his pretty hair after David Letterman on national TV mussed it up. That's the way it is in the blog business. We try to be equal opportunity offenders. So thanks for reading. It'll be interesting to see how RP does here in coming days.)
Posted by: Kanard | January 23, 2008 at 06:43 AM
Andrew, at least it was Ron Paul "supporters" shouting down Rudy. In recent and past debates it was RUDY HIMSELF heard cackling in the background when Fox and other "moderators" were taking potshots at Ron with their pseudo-questioning.
Rudy, this is what Ron was trying to explain to you with the term "Blowback." See NOW how it works?
(How it works? So Dr. Paul is for the status quo? We're just going to keep yelling at each other during and after the revolution? Wow, how exciting is that to contemplate. I thought he was a change agent. Thanks for the insight. Or maybe you're just trying to justify such behavior, which I haven't seen Dr. Paul do during the debates. He seems so steady there without shouting.)
Posted by: JeffnDallas | January 23, 2008 at 06:50 AM
Andrew,
I consistently read your blog in edition to other major news sites. I think you have given Ron Paul the most even press coverage of anyone working for a legitimate media outlet, and I appreciate it.
(And we appreciate your coming back and joining the dialogue.)
Posted by: Matt Ritsman | January 23, 2008 at 07:00 AM
As a Republican, we have to set aside our starched shirts and our properness. I think RP supporters may have been rude, but if I would have been there, I would have joined in. Rudy giggles and mocks Paul on National TV debates! Exceuse me, we are going to fight back and to hell with our manners. Our Republic is at stake.
Andrew, has anyone ever told you you look like Gepetto? Thanks for the exposure for Ron Paul.
Posted by: CD | January 23, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Hi Andrew. I'm the 6 ft 220 pounder hetero (member?). You truly are a breath of fresh air. I'm glad you take pains to be impartial and look at things objectively. Ron (and Edwards to a lesser extent) are putting the message out and that is heroic. We desperately need people that sacrifice their time and livelihood to address the dire straits we find ourselves in. I don't want to read later after the elections about how journalist were just doing their jobs (and kowtow to their corporate deities). Everyone thinks Ft. Sumter was the start of the "Civil" War, but it was in Godfrey Illinois where Elijah Paris Lovejoy fought for freedom of speech (through honest journalism) where the first shot was vollied. Great job Mr. Malcolm, and God bless.
(Thank you. Good to hear from you again. Appreciate your return.)
Posted by: Robin Dicken | January 23, 2008 at 07:33 AM
Thank you Andrew and the L.A. Times for your unbiased coverage of a very interesting story.
Posted by: Rebecca | January 23, 2008 at 07:42 AM
Thanks again, Andrew!
I will tell you why we Paul supporters are so vehement; it's not entirely one-sided. Let me tell you a little story...
At the straw poll in New York City hosted by the Manhattan "Young" Republicans Club, we showed up, as usual, en masse and cast our votes for Dr. Paul after a spirited, yet civil debate session with representatives from all the candidates' parties. Imagine how things turned sour when Rudy's people discovered that we beat him - in Manhattan! Fast forward to the bar across the street, where we Paul supporters showed up, as usual, en masse to celebrate our symbolic victory. Apparently, some Giuliani supporters were there as well to drown their sorrows and ponder just what force of the universe could exist that would motivate Republicans to show up at a Republican event and vote for someone other than Don Giuliani. As I approached a couple at the bar to simply make polite conversation (thinking that this is what people of a like-minded political philosophy do), I was physically attacked by the woman, who had obviously had too much to drink, and she ripped the "Ron Paul" sticker I was wearing off my chest. Good thing it wasn't a button! Her long fingernails facilitated her actually drawing blood, and she was ushered out by her companion who, after making excuses for her drunkenness, told me that we should "just do everyone a favor and go away."
I could have made a big deal about this, but figured that karma would vindicate us eventually. I have to say, more and more it looks like I was right to do so. It didn't surprise me, then, to read about Bernie Kerik and John Deady, the former co-chair of Veterans for Rudy who told The Guardian that we should pursue ALL Muslims until "we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or, in other words, get rid of them.”
So if you see an interview or press conference with Rudy, of which there are far too many given the proportion of his abject failure in the early primaries, have a bit of understanding for the Paul supporters waving signs in the background who are championing a campaign that is based on something other than cronyism, bigotry, and arrogance.
Posted by: Oscar DeGrouch | January 23, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Andrew Malcolm, another balanced report! How refreshing!!
This is still America and the truth has a chance -- despite the neo-con owned mainstream media effort to squash the Ron Paul message a liberty, responsibility and justice for all.
The MSM would rather be cheerleaders for the now-documented neo-con / Bush lies. But watch out -- pro-neo-con Sam Zell leverage-bought your $8B company with just $315M of his own money last month. Now he gets to decide editorial tone. He loves Charles Krauthammer -- one of the lead neo-con architects of the lie-based Iraq war.
Let's return America to truth, decency, responsible government and the higher moral ground. Ron Paul 2008!
Posted by: Anna | January 23, 2008 at 08:31 AM
Sometimes you have to shout to be heard.
If the MSM have a shut-out of Dr Paul going on, are we supposed to just like back and think of England, as the r3V0Lution gets cut down? NO WAY!! This genie is out of the bottle. The horse has bolted. The cat's out of the bag. This r3V0Lution will proceed, regardless of the MSM. And we will remember who stands in the way of liberty, and who helps.
(Yeh, right. That's a rationalization for thuggish behavior that Dr. Paul would not likely condone, despite his own frustrations.)
Support Ron Paul NOW - Before it's too late.
Posted by: lastnymleft | January 23, 2008 at 08:41 AM
With a fractured Republican primary and the so-called "front-runners" running out of money and free media exposure fast (i.e. Huckabee, McCain, and Guiliani), it is looking more and more like Ron Paul is the genuine front-runner. I say this because he gets more donors that any presidential candidate, which means that he has more real support because his support is coming from real peopl rather than a small minority of support from rich folks with deep pockets.
It will most likely come down to Mitt (which can finance his own campaign because he is a multi-millionaire) and Dr. Ron Paul (who is getting his money from we the people). We need a statesman, and that man is Dr. Ron Paul!
Posted by: Jake | January 23, 2008 at 08:45 AM
With a fractured Republican primary and the so-called "front-runners" running out of money and free media exposure fast (i.e. Huckabee, McCain, and Guiliani), it is looking more and more like Ron Paul is the genuine front-runner. I say this because he gets more donors that any presidential candidate, which means that he has more real support because his support is coming from real peopl rather than a small minority of support from rich folks with deep pockets.
It will most likely come down to Mitt (which can finance his own campaign because he is a multi-millionaire) and Dr. Ron Paul (who is getting his money from we the people). We need a statesman, and that man is Dr. Ron Paul!
Posted by: Jake | January 23, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Andrew, what's RUDE is the way Guiliani cackles everytime Ron Paul tries to make a point during the debates....watch any YouTube video and his "laugh" stands out in each one. I think when his supporters show up at Rudy's speeches, it's a kind of "blowback" if you know what I mean:)...when the entire media machine declares a "Blackout" on Ron Paul, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT HIS SUPPORTERS TO DO?????
Posted by: Bruno | January 23, 2008 at 09:00 AM
Giggliani has no class or is on drugs . Why must he laugh at every serious issue? as for Roe, well take that you so called conservitive christians ...aka huckabee and romnoodle
Posted by: true republican | January 23, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Thanks for your continuing coverage of Ron Paul.
I think it's way past time to stop calling him a "long shot", though. Was the term "long shot" ever applied to any of the following candidates, none of whom lasted as long as Ron Paul?
Jim Gilmore
Tommy Thompson
Sam Brownback
John Cox
Alan Keyes
Tom Tancredo
Duncan Hunter
Fred Thompson
Ron Paul has outlasted all of the above, and has more money and grassroots volunteers than just about everyone else who is left. Yet none of them were ever called "the longest of long shots" or said to be pursuing a "quixotic" campaign, or inaccurately said to be "dead last" in the polls, when they were in fact in the middle of the pack.
It makes you wonder why the media can't just report the facts, and leave out their mistaken preconceived ideas about who is "viable" and who isn't. Obviously, their track record leaves a lot to be desired.
Posted by: Doug D | January 23, 2008 at 09:06 AM
There is no greater emotional topic as the pro-life, and in the realm of Republicans, Catholics, Guiliani is a complete sham. Guiliani is completely unelectable as a Republican as president with a pro-abortion view, period. Besides supporting Ron Paul is simply being Ron Paul, backing hhis views, true Republicans need to take a look at the polls (which seems endless) regarding how Americans view the war on Iraq (75% against, regardless of political party) and their concern over the economy. Ron Paul is the only TRUE electable Republican for President of the US in 2008. He's raised millions as a hopeful, imagine how much he'll raise as THE candidate.
Posted by: Anthony Cinelli | January 23, 2008 at 09:25 AM
I just wanted to point out that the Jane Roe gal being celebrated in this article is someone who changed her mind on an issue -- flip-flopped as many now prefer to say.
Now, I am certainly not oppossed to anyone thinking about an issue and changing their views. In fact, thinking people and those who progress morally (as oppossed to those who stagnate) generally change their views on abortion twice in their lives.
I would like to see more acknowledgement of this fact in the electorate, who like to retain the privilege of changing their minds for themselves, yet are outraged when a public figure changes his stance on an issue.
Posted by: Marcie | January 23, 2008 at 09:44 AM
look guys i want ron paul to win too,but coming off like obnoxious jerks isnt going to get him any more votes.they shouldnt go around shouting down people trying to talk.people see that and say well if his supporters are that obnoxious and annoying,well then whats their candidate like?
if you havent noticed ron paul currently doesnt have enough support.he needs all the support he can get.just because his support group is hardcore,doesnt mean he'll win anything,each person only gets one vote.the campaign needs to appeal to as many people as possible,and not alienate people.
actions like those at the giuliani news conference does not help ron paul,in fact its hurtful to his campaign
Posted by: jeffrey | January 23, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Ron Paul has always been a Republican he ran as a libertarian once he realized Bush Sr. would destroy the Reagan Coalition... Classical liberalism and fiscal responsibility are not incorporated in the neo-conservative manifesto sadly their omission will eventually destroy the Grand Old Party and leave many voters without a voice.
Posted by: GRD | January 23, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Andrew, it seems that in your election coverage for the LA Times, you try to include Ron Paul , which is great, and appreciated.
From my perspective, and not everybody may agree with me, you try very hard to be "balanced", although, I would say that it's obvious that you are having a hard time, because the LA Times, of course, will have a candidate that they support. So any media coverage has to favor that candidate.
I see every other article you write with some of the stereotypical namecalling or biased labels for Ron Paul.
Please try to portray all sides of Ron Paul followers, why not mention the sacrifices they make to help out in this campaign, because they are sick of the status quo government, and the other candidates from the power establishment, and want fundamental changes that will improve the economy, foreign policy and restore our civil liberties. No other candidates have that kind of followers because they only have Big Corporate contributors that can afford to repeat to advertise their favorite candidates. Ron Paul is different, totally ignored by the media because he hasn't been bough out by the corporations, that's the big difference. He's for the people and the constitution. For Freedom!
(We appreciate your visiting the site and perhaps it's too much to expect anyone to read the dozens of items that habe mentioned Dr. Paul. But the subject of his supporters' dedication and sacrifice has been covered in the blog, and in fact, in the news pages as well. Thanks for visiting our blog. Hope to see you back soon.)
Posted by: Marco G | January 23, 2008 at 10:20 AM
I've never read this column before my interest in Ron Paul which just began about 2 months ago and since then, I've read several. I appreciate the balanced view for the most part but the phrase "libertarian turned Republican " really is misleading. That implies that more of a libertarian party relationship than is true. Since he was a republican before and after his one year as a libertarian, you could have put "one time libertarian" or you could have put "republican turned libertarian-for-a-year turned republican" or.... just something more accurate and less misleading than "libertarian turned republican".
Posted by: Brenda | January 23, 2008 at 10:24 AM
A healthy new vine is often seen growing in the rubbish and manure of falsehoods. Ron Paul is just such a healthy new vine. His words are the truth and will grow like a new vine.
Posted by: Old Ben Franklin | January 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I'm enjoying reading your blog more and more. But get your editors to get Ron Paul on the front page of the paper; it's the American thing to do.
(I thought we didn't care about the old dying msm?)
Posted by: John | January 23, 2008 at 10:58 AM
And then I woke up, there it is; The Beautiful Land of the Freethinkers AMERICA. The land of (law and order) with good intentions from the founders. I vividly saw this compassionate man (a messenger) getting humble advices from the founders on how lead (the people of the free) and to be a patriot as a natural American. That day is now, that day is here! be proud America, a good doctor in the house...
Posted by: Leonardo | January 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM
And then I woke up, there it is; The Beautiful Land of the Freethinkers AMERICA. The land of (law and order) with good intentions from the founders. I vividly saw this compassionate man (a messenger) getting humble advices from the founders on how lead (the people of the free) and to be a patriot as a natural American. That day is now, that day is here! be proud America, a good doctor in the house...
Posted by: Leonardo | January 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Thanks Andrew, yet another topic that should warrant more attention.
That the center figure in the 35-year-old case has now decided to endorse the pro-life Dr. Paul is nothing short of facinating. I was floored.
You would expect to see this story on Yahoo or CCN, but alas there is another dead actor to obsess over.
(Ah, yes, well the American public has never been criticized for focusing too intently on serious issues.)
Posted by: Andy in B-more | January 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM
thanks again, andrew for the fair coverage. i'm looking forward to much more, as dr paul gains momentum.
Posted by: sean truitt | January 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM
the colaspe of the doller and the usa economy is the feds fault for printing the money out of thin air, the congreses fault for spending the money printed out of thin air, the egsecutive branch and the dick chainny branch for going to unesesary war that we cant afford, and the legislative branch for not inforcing the suprem law of the land THE CONSTITUTION! you though you all new better than our founding fathers DIDENT YOU? 9.3 trillion in debt, 3 trillion for the iraq war with future canidates talking about the importance of nation building and going to war with iran the #3 oil producer in the world. it doesent look good with only one canidate talking about the root of the problem the imballance in our government.
Posted by: danhhill | January 23, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I am glad to see coverage for Ron Paul. The only candidate that seems to want the power where it belongs. Power belongs to the People not whoever owns the USA right now.
I shutter to think what will happen if he don't win. The people are tired of the rich war mongers standing on our backs. The people I know that are for Ron Paul are intelligent, and aware, many of them are Christians too they just don't wear it on their sleeves and we are disillusioned by the government and where it has taken us. I think there is a chance a lot more people feel this way than might be expected. Let this dark horse ride to the front.
Listening to Ron Paul is like listening to the truth for the first time. As far as listening to the government goes it might actually be the first time any of us have heard the truth from a politician.
Thanks Andrew and LA Times for having some integrity.
Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Lookup CFR sheeple.
Posted by: Billy | January 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Andrew,
you're winning my love and affection more and more each day!
And I'm not even gay!
Peter
(Thanks, Peter. You're a pal. I appreciate your return trips here.)
Posted by: Peter | January 23, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Andrew,
I posted a satire above, which I'm sure you understood. But I should have repeated (from earlier posts) my appreciation for your balanced coverage of Paul. And thanks for calling Fox News out for their blacklisting.
A lot of Paul supporters may not appreciate your column, especially the new ones who haven't finished the everyone-hates-my-candidate stage. But after 4 or 5 months of being on the Paul wagon, I am quite certain that your posts are some of the most thoughtful.
Posted by: Grizzle | January 23, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Electile Dysfunction : the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.
Are you one of the many Americans that suffer from Electile Dysfunction?
Well now there's hope.
Ron Paul
Getting to know Ron Paul, his history, his beliefs and what he could do for America has been shown to be 100% effective at relieving the symptons of Electile Dysfunction.
Join the many, many other Americans who support Ron Paul. And get back to living the kind of a life our Fore Fathers faught so hard for us to have.
Ron Paul
(Consult with your Doctor before supporting Ron Paul. Side effects may or may not include; optimism, a renewed interrest in the U.S. Constitution, an understanding of economics, a more truthfull and wiser approach to foreign policy, a strong desire to donate money to Ron Paul, a desire to speak out, spread the word and wave Ron Paul signs at Rudy Guilliani rallys.)
Posted by: Peter | January 23, 2008 at 02:08 PM
Bravo!
I especially liked: "other Republican *so-called* front-runners" and "while other *alleged* front-runners had a difficult time"
[my emphasis]
:-)
Aleš from Portland, Oregon
Posted by: AK | January 23, 2008 at 02:13 PM
Thanx 4 the coverage. I'm just happy to see people enthusiastic about the issues. I'm happy 2 c the energy and glad Dr. Paul's supporters give a damn. I'm pro-choice and will vote for RP. Apathy sucks, so whenever someone cares enough to act I'm that much closer to feeling like this country has a chance to turn around before it's too late.
Posted by: mgginva | January 23, 2008 at 02:21 PM
Thanks for the article.
And you are right about Ron Paul supporters - they are a bit over-enthusiastic. That is because they believe so strongly in their cause, and the media refuses to cover them for the most part.
Why? I think mostly because people like to talk about change - but they really
are quite content to leave things as they are - believing that their fearless leaders will take care of everything...
conspiracy?, fear?, or just plain old-fashioned apathy ...
(Hmmm, a provocative thought.)
Posted by: MN independent | January 23, 2008 at 03:42 PM
As a physicist, I refuse to believe anyone who will not rule out a nuclear strike against Iran has anything worthwhile to say. They are obviously idiots. Dr. Paul is the only republican that is not insane.
Posted by: Dustin | January 23, 2008 at 04:38 PM
You can use as much conjecture in your articles as you'd like... but you fail to remember that the 1st amendment was used to PROTECT FREEDOM OF PRESS.... the press was used to EXPOSE corruption, and inform the people of the going on's of the country.
Now, the media is used to CENSOR and SLANDER potential presidential candidates. It's not a conspiracy, its a fact. Explain to me why a man who has broken numerous records is not being discussed during the evening news?
I cant wait until the news agencies have to print Ron Paul being sworn into office. Maybe then you'll wake up.
Posted by: drew | January 23, 2008 at 04:47 PM
I was surprised to see that Jane Roe is and has been against abortion and has actively tried to overturn Roe versus Wade.
Life presents us with some difficult choices and very ambiguous answers. This is such a difficult question that there is no cookie cutter answer for every situation.
I don't have the answer and I suspect that Ron Paul does not either, certainly not for every situation.
In any case think that Pro-Lifers and Pro- Abortion groups are misguided , un-compassionate bigots who really need to consider feeling and needs of the people involved.
Nice coverage, not glowing but certainly balanced.
In any case , Paul supports should stop wasting time on Rudy.
Maybe Rudy will stop snickering at Paul during the next debates, if he does not drop out that is.
Thanks again Andrew.
Posted by: Josh | January 23, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Andrew,
Thanks for the story. When you said that he outraised the othe so-called front runners I had to scroll back up and see if I was on the LA Times.
Your story was news! The LA Times decides to frame the presidential election with all of the facts.
Holy-Toledo.
As for a coincidence... there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence.
Posted by: Earl E | January 23, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Great comments, despite the secondary focus of the article, which was to denounce Ron Paul supporters (albeit just a few of the more vocal, enthusiastic ones.) It provided some new insights for even a 6-month old RP supporter! Makes me proud to be part of such an intellectual movement. Thanks LA Times for the forum!
Posted by: Me Again | January 23, 2008 at 05:42 PM
'As a strict Constitutionalist, Dr. Paul would agree that "We hold these truths to be self-evident. That we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights..That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."'
That quote is from the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: FGFM | January 23, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Wonderful article, Andrew. God bless you and your family for your service to our country (since it's sick and needs this underrated doctor, Ron Paul.)
Posted by: patty | January 23, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Thanking you again for continuing the coverage on Ron Paul - I really appreciate having found a news source that gives a fair and balanced report on Dr. Paul.
I agree with you that as supporters we do not want to do ANYTHING that detracts from the message. We do not need to stoop to the level of the other Candidates and actually need more then ever to clearly differentiate ourselves by our conduct as well as our continued enthusiastic support.
I hope that all Ron Paul's supporters will remember that we represent the man as well as the message. We have already seen how his trust was abused in the past by those who used his good name to spread lies and bigotry and how that has harmed him. None of us should want to have any part in causing him any further embarassment.
Ron Paul's amazing success and message has been ignored by the MSM beyond my ability to comprehend. But not only have his successes been ignored - ANY LITTLE THING they can find to use against him - they do and will continue to do so. It's up to us supporters to make sure we are NOT providing them ammunition to use against Dr. Paul.
Andrew, I not only bookmarked your column - you are on my home page and I check your blog out daily. You will find that not only are we supporters passionate in our loyalty to Ron Paul - we extend that loyalty to those who treat him fairly. So I will continue to tell all of Ron Paul's friends to add your column to their bookmarked favorites and thank you again for your honest and unbiased reports.
Posted by: Pamela | January 23, 2008 at 07:51 PM
oH, MY GOSH-jOSH:
I have experienced unplanned pregnancies, and understand this reality from within...The right to life is simply sacrosanct. It is a crucial moment, in the life of an individual, to discover that the right to life of ANOTHER individual supercedes one's own right to ...whatever. We "right-to-lifers " are not simply "bigoted" and "unfeeling". Quite the opposite. I speak from personal experience, having raised four children without the benefit of a supportive, committed husband... Can you begin to understand what this means??? Was I "stupid"? Well, four adults are happily alive upon this earth. Am I happy? I have survived, am strong, and support Ron Paul, as having an educated view of reality. I DO respect the compassion of "pro-choicers" who seek to redress inequities---but I cannot emphasize enough--no child deserves the fate of abortion. NO CHILD. Children need, and DESERVE society's protection.
Posted by: ellen | January 23, 2008 at 07:56 PM
"On the 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court's historic Roe vs. Wade abortion ruling, the Roe of that landmark legal case endorsed libertarian turned Republican Rep. Ron Paul for president."
I hate to be rude BUT - Let's try this again. Several people have posted comments to this reference, but you seem to fail logic 101 (or refuse to acknowledge it) and thus I guess you ended up as a news reporter in life. IF one reads the sentence above one reads a "libertarian turned republican" sounding as if maybe he converted just for this election. DO YOU GET IT NOW? I see you seem to cherry pick your comments to reply to avoiding anything of content. WHY DON"T YOU OFFER POLITICAL DEBATE on an econmic, foreign policy, etc comment?. Your responses (several) mention he was a republican and the indy then republican. Yes we all know that. If you're still not sure go back and read the sentence again, pretend you know nothing of Dr. Paul and see what you gleen from it.
Laced within all of your Dr Paul articles is a back handed slap whenever you can pull it off. That way you can portray yourself by saying "see we did cover him" but still do your duty. Many people are on to the MSM with an apex being reached when Faux news ridiculed Dr. Paul about electability in the debate, then Dr. Paul mops up the floor with Cameron ?. Upon the rebroadcast Fox news cut out this part that called out the borrowing from China to give to a dictator in Pakistan. It was a doctoring of the rebroadcast something I'd think of in the USSR in the old days. That is the (IO)USA of today. The Land of the Free (ride).
Saxo Bank (international) predicted ron Paul would be the next US president. WHY? Surely not because of media coverage or ridiculing among men who are supposed to the running for the most powerful leader in the world, but act more like they're running for high school president. You see the economy is teetering on a major collapse although not many Americans understand terms such as "world reserve currency" or "Federal Reserve Corporation". Many laws are being changed in the name of the boogeyman errr alqueda to protect banks and financial houses from law suits of widows and pension funds. Our elected leaders are also quietly moving laws into place for a police state when the dollar soon collapses and the government can no longer fund massive social programs and war with a worthless piece of paper. Many books were written of the looming economic problems but unfortunately too many americans gave up reading and get their news from Faux or the crayoLA Times. I was amazed to see the % of new donators to RP on MLK Day. The message is spreading and it may take time but may align perfectly with the election. Saxo Bank will look like a genious.
I would suggest you research more of what is at stake and not seek to get little digs in on Ron Paul. That is unless you are working to a different agenda.
America - Love (the MSM) or Leave it!
signed,
a former veteran and alifelong republican voter supporting Dr. Ron Paul (freedom)
Posted by: sacman41 | January 23, 2008 at 08:09 PM
Andrew, is Ron Paul invited to the Republican Debate on January 30th? I cannot find any definitive information on that anywhere - do you know?
Ron Paul supporters - do you know? I'm not seeing anything on it on the web site, but maybe I'm missing it?
This is critical - it is the last debate before Super Tuesday on 2/5/08. There should be NO exclusions of ANY Candidates!
Someone please tell me that Ron Paul has not been shut out and shut up again.
And if he has - then we supporters need to make a LOT of noise about the blatant discrimination against Candidates who are running for the highest office in the Nation by the MSM. They do not have the right to exclude ANY Candidate who is still seeking office for either the Democrat or Republican Parties.
Posted by: Pamela | January 23, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Was the Boston Tea Party rude?
(Nice try. Actually, it's a terrible try. So you're equating Mayor Giuliani trying to hold a news conference with British taxation policies toward its colonies 225+ years ago? C'mon! Please.)
Posted by: Revfisk | January 23, 2008 at 08:50 PM
I'm not sure why everyone is calling Ron Paul a "longshot." It may be because the liberal media have often excluded him from media coverage. "Google" Ron Paul and take a look at his ideas and his interviews on youtube and you will find out that his ideas are conservative and mainstream. The problem is that other candidates are not as educated as Dr. Paul.
John McCain will keep fighting this war in Iraq and it will continue to drain the US economy. He doesn't have conservative principles and if the Republicans choose him then we will get a Democrat as a President. Not to go too much off on a tangent, then we will get Hillary universal healthcare with increased deficits and taxes. She did not succeed in healthcare before and no one has solved Social Security. So if we are to base our votes on a persons record, we should vote Ron Paul!
Posted by: Rob | January 23, 2008 at 08:57 PM
I wonder if the fact that at every debate Ghuliani laughed out loud at everything Dr. Paul said has come back to bite him and losing to Dr. Paul must hurt him alot. Free speech and free shouting are not unconstitutional.
Posted by: moonslippers | January 23, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Dear Mr. Malcom,
Again, I liked what you wrote. We Paul supporters feel so slighted by the blatant blacklisting of our candidate, and you are working to tell the story the rest don't have the vision to see.
May I shine your shoes or bake you some cookies? Chocolate chip or oatmeal?
Thanks again!
Posted by: Elizabeth | January 23, 2008 at 09:37 PM
I have not usually been exacting when following the media, but I am appalled at the poor language skills and poorly concealed bias of--see, even I am careful not to say EVERY--media article I read. Things like saying 'his fans' when it should read 'some' or 'many' of his fans. Always trying to give that 'they are a little nuts' slant. This article is far better than most. I am amazed, for example, at a video on Yahoo about GOP candidates lacking money, that never mentions Paul though he is ahead of Giuliani in votes. This is typical, is it any wonder we Paul supporters get incensed? I do not support the actions in Florida, but the stories chosen are always prefaced with 'dark horse candidate' or some other dismissive remark. So, if Paul has more votes in caucuses than Giuliani this point, but Giuliani is the 'major contender', then what conclusion can we draw other than that the press decides who is major and not the people? Or is logic a concept for fringe people? Vote Ron Paul.
(Why would a YouTube video on Republicans short of money include Ron Paul, who isn't?)
Posted by: craig seganti | January 23, 2008 at 09:48 PM
Thanks for your blog Mr. Malcom.
I'd never been involved in politics before I noticed Ron Paul several months ago, and I never entertained conspiracy theories regarding the press (still don't). But after following the campaign closely I have come to believe that, just like government, people get the press coverage they deserve in an open society. Just like most people do not want real change, most people don't want entirely dispassionate reporting. They seem to want snappy prose and commentary which is much more interesting than dry descriptions of events. They want sensationalism. They want drama. They want controversial opinion. Its a wonder journalists are able to even approximate the reality of events in their reporting. It seems to me we Paulistas have been demanding the same things from "the MSM."
Posted by: Scott | January 23, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Like Ron Paul said of our good soldiers in Iraq, "Just come home". Yes, "Just come home", so the rest of us can tie a hundred yellow ribbons around the old oak tree. Enough conniving by the lying profiteers and warmongers in Washington. Let's just bring our darling boys and girls home.
Vote Ron Paul, 2008.
Posted by: Yellow Ribbon | January 24, 2008 at 06:38 AM
to Andrews comment:
Thank you for writing your whimiscal message. It was great! The problem is the Ron Paul supporters are being educated by the only truth speaker in the campaign and too many of the Ron Paul supporters are wasting valuable time trying to wake up the media and other Americans to the truth about the perils of America, our economy, our foreign policies, etc...! And of course the audience doesn't want to hear the truth about how we are losing our national soveignity and our freedoms. So let's do what you do, let's not tell them the truth, so they can continue in their self imposed stupors and let's continue being the force we are to the people who have decided freedom and liberty are worth preserving and defending and let's just go take this country back. Let's do it right infront of their educated, pompous, narcissistic noses and let's make them believe we are all just a big joke. Heck, they already think that! But, my friend I stand with you and I know you are probably like me, who try to explain anything to these uneducated buffoons? Let's just keep on, keeping on and let's blow them out of the water by this force of freedom in November. By the way, I'm just a red-neck, bible thrumping, evangelical, right wing conservative, two time Bush/Cheney voter. Thank God to Ron Paul for waking my ignorant, uneducated self up.
Posted by: HOPE7134 | January 24, 2008 at 07:22 AM
previous message was not to Andrew, but to Grizzle!
Posted by: hope7134 | January 24, 2008 at 07:33 AM
Some opinions are that Ron Paul will need another $150M in his coffers to get elected. Well, how convenient, that Mr Bush provided an economic stimulus package to bribe everybody. Lets stimulate the Paul campaign by sending our bribe checks to his support. Checks are $600 for each person, thus we will need 250,000 people to donate their checks. This should do it. It's the literal cost of freedom folks. Google Amero, Trilateral commission, NWO, PNAC, ect... do the research. Go Ron 2008!
Posted by: Guesswhotoo6 | January 24, 2008 at 08:07 AM
Mr. Malcolm, how does it feel to have your own "cult-like" following? You're a hero to us for writing about the Ron-Paul-Movement in a truthful, objective, and interesting way.
Frankly, you don't have much competition amongst the MSM. Apathy? Conspiracy? Lazy journalism? Collective amnesia? Tough to say, I'm glad to see it's changing. Thanks.
(Cult? Get serious. It ebbs and flows with the attitude of the items Right now, the Edwards people don't like us. We sort of follow our own instincts here about what are the interesting/important political stories for general readers. Glad you're finding stuff you want to read here and appreciate your loyalty--and kind words. Judging by our rapidly growing traffic, you're not alone. See ya.)
Posted by: SFKyle | January 24, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Rudy, our Constitution allows us the right to annoy you as much as you annoy us. You are no 911 hero sir. Ask the New York City Firefighters.
Ron Paul is the only change this country really needs...and fast! Why do you think the Corporate Media does not want him to be heard? Educate yourselves America. God bless our next President, Ron Paul.
Posted by: Doug | January 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Ron Paul cannot be correctly called a long shot anymore. He just came in second in Louisiana caucuses (Jan 24th); that's two second place finishes in a row, after Nevada. It looks like he is the one who is building momentum.
Posted by: Dave | January 24, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Ron Paul is my hero. Thank you LA Times for acknowledging him.
Posted by: Brandi | January 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM
How can a pro-choice advocate vote for anti-abortion Republican candidate Ron Paul? Because the Constitution is the Ultimate Big Tent.
Ron Paul would simply keep the FEDERAL government out of the issue, and leave the regulation of abortion to the STATES where it properly belongs.
We have a choice. We can either preserve the Constitutional balance between the State and National governments, or we can allow Washington D.C. to regulate every aspect of our lives – FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.
I saw a woman with a bumper sticker that read “U.S. Out of My Uterus!” This woman was obviously pro-choice but as with most Americans she was woefully misinformed as to the nature of her right to terminate a pregnancy. Indeed, it is the very presence of the United States government in this woman’s uterus that is protecting her right to an abortion. In reality it is the United States government that stands guard over her uterus, making sure that there is no interference by the State government with access to her uterus to terminate an embroyo or fetus inside the uterus.
That sounds good to most pro-choice supporters. They want to preserve a woman’s right to choose by any means possible. But without a proper understanding of the source of the National government’s power to regulate abortion rights, such pro-choice supporters do not understand the price that is paid for such “protection.”
The source of the National government’s power to prohibit the State governments from prohibiting abortion is the United States Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, which deemed abortion a “fundamental right.” Where did they find this right? In the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
ALL AMERICANS ARE CHALLENGED TO READ THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT AND FIND THIS RIGHT. Have you read the Fourteenth Amendment? If you have not read the Fourteenth Amendment, then you cannot possibly understand what is at stake when you choose to vote based upon a candidate’s position on abortion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Have you read what the Fourteenth Amendment says about abortion? That’s right, THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT ABORTION!
Even “liberal”/”leftist” (the terms in quotation marks for your protection) legal commentators have criticized Roe v. Wade for its failure to anchor the right to an abortion in the actual text of the Constitution. Indeed, if one can read into the Fourteenth Amendment that a woman has the right to an abortion ONE CAN READ ANYTHING INTO THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT.
Those who support abortion rights may be tempted to grant five Washington DC lawyers the power to decree such “constitutional” rights with no textual basis in the actual Constitution. However, in doing so they leave the door open for a different set of five DC lawyers to read another, very different set of “fundamental rights” into the Fourteenth Amendment. The same people who applauded for the right to abortion may be VERY DISMAYED at the rights this next set of five DC lawyers finds to be (or not to be) in the Fourteenth Amendment.
“This balance between the National and State governments ought to be dwelt on with peculiar attention, as it is of the utmost importance. It forms a double security to the people. If one encroaches on their rights they will find a powerful protection in the other. Indeed, they will both be prevented from overpassing their constitutional limits by a certain rivalship, which will ever subsist between them.”
– Alexander Hamilton (speech to the New York Ratifying Convention, 17 June 1788)
Thank you reading my rant.
Posted by: Craig Combs | January 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM
(Why would a YouTube video on Republicans short of money include Ron Paul, who isn't?)
Yahoo, not youtube. Because of the context of the video--you know it was a comparison story--comments such as 'so many of the Republican candidates lack funds' --so many being McCain, Huckabee and Giuliani in the story--then goes on to say 'So Mitt Romney might be the winner by default' with a clip of Romney and a comment about how much he has to spend. So Romney should have been left out, too? The message is clearly 'There are 4 Republicans running for nomination'. Ron Paul, running 4th, is not mentioned at all. Obviously in a story like this you would have compared his financial situation to the others if you did Romney and the other 3 candidates, but you would have then had to mention the almost unbelievable financial support from grass roots and fundraising records. There is a reason people like myself, who in 25 years of eligible voting, having never previously given a cent to a candidate, are willing to give to Ron Paul's cause.
If anyone did a major story on press coverage, the evidence would clearly show how he is snubbed. And I've also noted that, contrary to our new stereotype, Paul supporters are some of the most eloquent and articulate voices on the web. Vote Ron Paul 2008!
Posted by: craig seganti | January 24, 2008 at 06:47 PM
Andrew,
I am really growing to like your blog. Thank you for writing yet another Ron Paul spot! I don't mind hearing about some of the annoyances as long as there is the truth. The truth is not always pretty, but I prefer to hear the facts and make my own conclusion.
I feel like no matter how much press someone gets, people will make a good decision if they are presented with all the options. It is the omission of important information that gets frustrating to me.
Thank you again for taking a chance, and giving some press to this candidate and modern day hero to so many people. It can't be all bad to write a Ron Paul article once in a while, bet you get a lot of page views.
All the best,
Trent
Posted by: Trent G. | January 24, 2008 at 07:29 PM
Hey Andrew.
Check this ABC article out when you get a chance.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/paul-alleges-bo.html
Geez. Once again it's business as usual when it comes to crooked politics here in my home state of Louisiana.
It looks like Ron Paul won the Louisiana GOP Caucus but the local La GOP won't release the results or give any details except that they claimed Ron Paul came in second. And they're expecting everyone to go by the La GOP's word alone without revealing the number of ballots counted.
How much does it cost to rent an apartment in Los Angeles?
I've lost hope for Louisiana.
Peter
(Seems kinda strange, Peter. What do you make of it?)
Posted by: Peter | January 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM
I think the pro-life movement shows what a bunch of whacked out psychos they really are when many of them absolutely REFUSE to support Ron Paul. They don't support him because he is anti-war!
Lets face it, the religious right are a bunch of warmongering pro-israeli jesus on the brain idiots, and their love of war far exceeds their love of life and newborn babies. They care less about how many hundreds of thousands of iraqis died, or how much suffering the USA has exported to the world via its predatory trade policies.
All they care about is the return of jesus, and their hopes to die as soon as possible and go to heaven. Protestantism is the modern death cult of our age.
I feel bad for Ron, he has talked about all the right issues, said all the right things, voted the right way, but even his own people won't support him.
As a catholic I will vote RP, because his views dovetail perfectly with mine. All catholics believe (or should believe, the pope told us...) that ALL LIFE IS SACRED....ALL LIFE. No death penalty, no war, no abortion.
Protestants really need to re-address their vindictive love of war.
Posted by: Rick Cain, Tulsa, OK | January 27, 2008 at 11:03 AM
You sure don't care much for ProLifers do you Andy? You're going to have to care eventually as we're the ones doing God's work.
Posted by: Andy Eppink | February 06, 2008 at 06:45 AM