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Breaking News: Nevada Court says MSNBC can bar Kucinich

The Nevada Supreme Court has just ruled that MSNBC is within its rights to bar Rep. Dennis Kucinich from participating in the nationally-televised Democratic presidential debate in a few minutes.

The court decision, issued minutes ago, reverses a District Court order from yesterday that required the network to include Kucinich as a qualified candidate. MSNBC had originally invited the Cleveland congressman, but then rescinded that invitation last week.

Kucinich's lawyers had argued that a contract thus existed and MSNBC was breaking it by un-inviting him.

However, today's Supreme Court decision ruled that no such binding contract existed and the district court "manifestly abused its discretion" in making that interpretation.

The results are the debate will continue this evening at 6 p.m. Pacific with just the top three Democratic candidates--Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama.

--Andrew Malcolm

 
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Absolutely shameful. NBC is in the wrong, morally and legally. It does not serve the public interest to exclude Kucinich - unless "public" means "corporate". Please do not watch this sham of a debate on NBC. Support your right to choose what candidate you want. Our right to choose our president is getting taken away! I won't stand for this!

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CHUCK TODD AND NBC WON'T ALLOW KUCINICH TO DEBATE. KUCINICH WON THE GANDHI PEACE AWARD! NBC owned by GE, the largest weapons manufacturer in the country, filed an emergency appeal to the Nevada Supreme Court to overturn the judge's decision to allow America to hear from Dennis Kucinich.

How can a network whose purpose is to serve the public interest have such power in destroying the democratic process?

WHY is NBC taking such extreme measures to keep Kucinich from the debate? Does the network think it would be bad for the democratic process to have at least one candidate onstage who is against media monopolies, never voted for the war, and is for saving the environment? Is NBC afraid of the truth getting out about it's corporate parent, GE? This is a travesty, an abomination and proves that network conglomerates do not have the public interest at heart.

Legal schematics aside, this is once again cowardice of the highest order on the part of the mainstream media and the Democratic Party as well. I for one am through with them. I will not vote for their nominee. They are caterers of a bland buffet of mashed potatoes with chicken gravy, cauliflower and navy beans. This country gets what it deserves for gorging at the Beltway sheep trough.

Go Mike Huckabee!

are you kidding me?
NBC has just been blacklisted.
I refuse to view or purchase ANYTHING advertised on NBC!

Representatives from the 15 homes on our little cul-de-sac in The Woodlands, Texas, 12 of whom are leaning toward the Democratic Party, read the argument posed by MSNBC’s legal counsel — that MSNBC, as a privately held firm, is free to invite whomever it wishes to events it sponsors such as this debate. This makes entirely good sense.
Thereafter, the 15 of us discussed the issue and held a vote in which we unanimously decided that none of us will any longer invite MSNBC into our homes. Hey, we’re just a small enclave of people outside a big city who can extend exclusive invitations, too. Our thinking is based on the notion that in a REAL democracy any legal candidate — even ones we do not like — must have opportunity to be heard.

I WAS an undecided independent in California. However, since Kucinich was excluded from the debate, I will vote for him to spite the other candidates. If Clinton, Edwards, and Obama were principled they would at least take a stand against exclusion. All candidates have a right to be heard. Anyone who supports exclusion supports a diminished democracy and a path towards a dictatorship.

Iowa and New Hampshire have a mere 2% of the entire delegates! Why should those states results determine who is viable at such an early state in the game? That would be like some basketball player hitting a 3 point shot very early in the game, and declaring the game over. No that is why they play the game. This contest should be a 50 state battle! Let the voters decide!

This is a sad day for America.

O' Tim, give me a break. So you will support the nominee of a party that just excluded Ron Paul in basically the exact same situation, with the possible exception that Ron Paul routinely wins six to seven times the percentage of Kucinich. If you are going to vote republican because you are a republican, don't try to present yourself as sometype of unbiased arbiter who is upset that Kucinich isn't in the debate.

I am getting so tired of this sham of a democratic process. Yes I agree it is shameful. Will not some larger more powerful voices speak out in Mr. Kucinichs defense? The people of this country will never have a voice until the media looses its strangle hold on what we see and think and then say and ultimately how we vote. Kucinich has a voice ..a clear one, he is not wishy washy or centrist, everything he says makes sense and matters so much. The fact that he can not be heard tonight nationwide is a loss for us all. I am so tired of this..it has to stop soon, not tomorrow but now! Now! We as a nation for the people and by the people need to wake up and speak out. Kucinich is one loud voice, but WE can be one louder voice! Speak out!

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Now that NBC has decided who the three contending democratic primary candidates will be, why bother to cast a ballot? And what of "The Peoples Right" in the matter? If in fact "The People" are to decide, perhaps "The People" want to make an informed decision.
I am in shock that NBC would hide behind the First Amendment while Mr. Kucinich the right to speak.
And the three candidates that are going to "change" big business and stand up for the American citizen showed their true colors. Those candidates stood by and watched, yet again, as the rights of "The People" were squandered at the expense of big business. Not one of the three took a stand for the right of the people to hear and make an informed decision. As to unity and bringing people together, if this is an example, no thank you. If you will stand idly by and choose self preservation over "The People" once you will do it again. And I surmise all three will hide behind the court ruling that sided decided a business has more of a right than a citizen of this country. I was leaning to vote Democratic until this event.

Another in a series of horrendous events that is pushing this country away from Democracy and toward corporate fascism. Imagine a country where all are treated equally and where everyone can participate in the Democratic process of voting for a President. How do we expect to regain respect in the world if propaganda exists so blatantly? They're not even trying to hide it! As someone so passionate about this process, this saddens me greatly. I don't even know what to say anymore.

This is the part in the movie where the people would rise up behind the unlikely champion to bring down the unjust.
But, no...
America has no more room for heroes. They all exist as vague memories on scratchy film from speeches 40 years past.

This provides additional proof "the networks" do not have a clue what their potential audience wants, and explains even further why "the networks" continue to lose market share. What losers.

If NBC was really interested in promoting democracy, they (and all the others) would broadcast the debates on FREE TV. This cable-only method of delivering the discussion has an entry fee :cable bills.

Half the citizenry is excluded from the debate, what's the difference in excluding candidates?

I hate NBC

Well... looks like the fix is in at the highest levels.

Easy to see that the interests of the Nevada Supreme Court are in line with the corporate aristocracy interests that want to make sure that, like Mexico, 5% of the upper crust control 95% of the money here in America and the majority of our citizens are too dumbed down to see it .

Unfortunately, the media seems to be showing their true colors quite often these days - first Fox with the New Hampshire debate and the exclusion of Ron Paul, and now NBC with Kucinich.

Small wonder things are so screwed up in Amerika these days.

This is infuriating. Pure madness. I'll never watch MSNBC again.

It's official. The revolution WILL be televised after all. The trouble is, the revolution is not what you thought it would be.

Welcome to the Military-Industrial-Media-Political complex.

Take a number, have a seat. The revolution is nearly over. It happened while we were sleeping and tivoing and text messaging and consuming and

I knew things were bad, but now I realize things are much worse than I ever imagined. I actually wept upon hearing this news. It saddens me how disinterested and self-involved we've become. If these spineless self-serving Homo sapiens are our alternative to Bush, then I'm not as excited about the prospect of 2009 as I planned. I fear our future rests in "Idiocracy."

An *absolutely* shameful and embarrassing day for all Americans.

Chalk up the current members of the NV Supreme Court next to those of the 2000 US Supreme Court as utter failures as human beings and Americans, forever, and ever, in American history.


Ughh.

Very few media "outlets" have abused their public trust this brazenly. The injustice of it makes me sick to my stomach. Thanks to MS-NBC for helping me with my diet - they now offer only low cal fare.

That's it, I've unplugged the cable. Ok, I might have to put it back in to watch PBS since I won't be able to use rabbit ears now that we are forever strapped into paying a cable company to receive transmission. But other than that- forget it.

If you've got a primary in your area, vote for Dennis. Tell other people to go online and find out what' he's all about. Send them here too: http://www.dennis4president.com/go/resources/polls/ see what happens when Dennis is included in a debate/polls higher, and the MSM pulls or buries the story.

If the "top 3" were worth their salt, they should have said, hey- he's qualified for matching funds from the government, and should be sharing the stage with us. If they've got the right stuff- why should they mind if he's on stage?

CALL COMPLAIN COMMENT BLOG CHAT WITH YOUR FRIENDS/NEIGHBORS YOU NAME IT. Save our Country from the likes of GE and war and greed...

Where's the outrage on the part of Billary, Osama, and the ambulance chaser?

Dennis was excluded from Iowa, New Hampshire, and now Nevada.
and "they" say that he is un- electable?
Why would I believe anything "they" say? When have they been truthful--the war in Iraq? WMDs? etc etc etc
In spite of this, he is still running--cogently, consistently and with integrity.
I am not watching NBC, ABC, Fox. I am not voting for the candidate they chose and call electable--what's at stake for the corporations and what's at stake for us and our county?

Dennis deserves and will get my vote on Feb 5th.
And I am keeping a hard copy, in case there is a re-count.

Let's have a little reality check here folks. NBC did this to increase the amount of time shared by the real contenders in this race. Like it or not, it doesn't make sense to distract voters from this important decision by including folks who have no chance of getting to double digits nationally, like Kucinich and Ron Paul, despite the fact that they hold differentiated and principled views.

This country is falling into fascism more and more each day. How many more years before we have our version of the French Revolution?

Only bit of Respect I have left for NBC is Olbermann's Broadcast.

I am heart sick about this. I am through with the Democratic Party. I will never have a good feeling about them again as they are a disgrace to America. I will not vote for any of the others after I vote for Dennis in the Primary.

From the posts here, it looks like Denny has his crybaby minions out in force. Kucinich behaves like the person who was invited to a wedding. When the people in charge find him to be an unstable, rejected suitor, they dis-invite him to avoiid a 'scene' fearing he will disrupt the ceremony when it gets to "why these two persons should not be joined together". THAT is all Denny would need to start spouting off! Geeesh ... some people! All the prime time players and guests have a RIGHT to NOT be harassed. Especially, by one who if he had any class at all would have bowed out long ago.

I'm from Scotland and was/am enthused to see that Dennis Kucinich is a potential next president for the United States. Here is someone who really talks the talk and walks the walk. I'm astounded to hear that the candidates are not given equal opportunity to express their intentions, values, thoughts and be heard by the general public. When did everything become so calculated? The media have a responsibility to serve the best interests of the public in all ways, not to dominate and dictate.

Commercial radio charges for every minute of airtime since de-regulation in 1996. Why wouldn't television do the same? We certainly see enough info-mercials. Programming has become the advertising. Unannounced, paid, advertising. It's payola in radio. What do we call it in Television? The DNC is paying, they just won't pay for Kucinich because he is against Media Consolidation and for Media Reform.

One wonders what McLuhan would have to say about all this.

The question here is "Who are the gatekeepers and why?"

The trend is scarey. With this level of corruption in media and politics, why would anyone act accountable if it is not necessary to do so? Bush and Cheney have brought the country to new lows with no ramifications. What will the next president do? At this point, with this happening in Las Vegas, both parties are the same.

Please tell all of your friends, regardless of ideology, to visit the website below if they don't believe democracy is in peril. View the Kucinich campaign weekly update, January 14th edition of David v Goliath. Click on the video with Anne Marie Howard. Scroll over to about the 2 minute 30 second mark. Play for about 2 minutes to see what the corporate media is doing to a US Congressman. Our fourth estate, designed to monitor and check the three branches, is a self-serving, for-profit and-greed monopoly with a neo-con agenda, espousing an ideology. How dangerous for Americans! Germany, 1930's: Fascism. America, 2000 and counting: Deja-vu. And they said it couldn't happen here...and nobody said or did anything. Speak out! Act!

http://mailcenter3.comcast.net/wmc/v/wm/478DA3D40003B7470000651422155517249D06010D0105?cmd=List&sid=c0

How disgusting that NBC excluded Rep Kuchinch from tonight's debate. What are you afraid of? On the same general subject, I note that former Sen Edwards has been notably exculded fromn news reports. Are you afraid of John Edwards too? Please NBC - do I need to totally abandon you in order to get 'real' information elsewhere? My husband and I have worked hard and managed to accumulate enough savings that we should be republicans!!:-) We, and those like us, will NEVER tune in to NBC, MSNBC, again.

My thoughts are focused on the 3 candidates who went on with this sham of a debate knowing that Dennis Kucinich was excluded. Clinton, Obama and Edwards are all cowards and not worthy to be President of the US. Not one of them had the integrity to stand up for what is right. This whole campaign process is turning out to be a sham so far. I do not like the smell of any of it. The mainstream media has wayy too much control and influence over what we see or hear of the candidates and that seems like a rotten deal being presented to the American people. We The People need a 3rd party candidate now more than ever. Where in the hell is Al GORE?

This is a travesty and the logic is flawed. New Hampshire and Iowa make up about 2% of the electoral votes in this country. Yet the whims of THAT 2% is able to exclude Kucinich because HE got 2%?

I'm from California and I just voted absentee for Kucinich. Thanks for making this decision easy.

Adding more injury to the severe injury to the body politic, the public and the Constitution represented by the NV Supremes decision, NBC made more of a farce out of this so-called "debate" than in any previous one, IMHO. The entire first 35 minute segment, until the first break, was NOTHING BUT idiotic "spin" questions, will Clinton fire her campaign head in SC, does Obama regret his comment about Hillary being "likeable," does Edwards feel awkward opposing the first black and the first woman, etc. NOT ONE IOTA OF SUBSTANCE. The second segment had a few questions on the economy, but even they were anemic and poorly focused, starting with one about concern for which foreign interests are bailing out our banks. The final segment was much less relevant even than the second segment.

This was not a political debate. It was "debatainment," the format of a debate turned by the dreadful moderators, who should be fired on the spot, into reality TV, trying to put the candidates on the spot about worthless issues and see how they respond in real time, kind of like "what was your most embarrassing moment on the campaign trail," no, wait, they asked a variant of that question, 'what is your greatest weakness," which all three candidates handled by describing something positive about themselves.

I frankly doubt the candidates appreciated the way it went, but none of them had the gumption to call the moderators on the carpet for their worthless questions. All three candidates claim to be opposed to the corporate interests--drug companies, health insurance companies, oil companies--running Washington. How about the corporate media interests determining who our next president will be, and denying the public the ability to fairly judge among the candidates. The exclusions of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich lead the list of the travesties this particular corporate behemoth, arguably the most important of them all, has committed. Where is the opposition from the debate podium to THIS corporate enemy of the people?

Join the club. My candidate is Mike Gravel, and he has been excluded from the beginning. Oh yes, as part of the disappearing middle-clss, we haven't had comcast for over a year. So I have not heard one word of any debates. Guess I'll just eenie-meenie-miney-moe.

Wow, MSNBC taking a page out of FOX NEWS's book. Wish I could say I was surprised.

MSNBC sucks. I will now be boycotting them. Actually, I am going to turn off my cable and put the TV in a closet. The only candidates that make sense are banned from debates. The candidates that are corporate whores get free plugs on every network. Wake up, American sheeple! Its time to take our country back from these pathetic ......... Vote for freedom in 2008. Vote for Ron Paul!!!!!

Was there anyone on the MSNBC stage afraid of the Kucinich sponsored recount in New Hampshire? After all, what is the probability that the percentage of machine counted ballots could be the exact opposite of the hand counted ballots? Hand counted for Obama, machine counted for Clinton.

NBC / MSNBC used to be my favorite news network. Not anymore!
By deciding who I want to hear in the debates took away from my FIRST AMENDMENT. Goodbye!

Prediction: NO elections in 2008

Here is how it will come about:

1. Time magazine, December 17, 2007. Page 46 "The Fort Dix Conspiracy"

+

2. e-book, www.farviewu.biz Was AIDS a terrorist act?

+

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

+

4. Number of envelopes received in Presidential candidates offices with white powder (sugar?);
One group had brown powder (ant killer?) with note "Don't Bug Me"

=

NO elections in 2008

Have the American political parties set up event 4 to keep themselves in power? They know,
based on event 3, that the person(s) who send these envelopes cannot be traced. Further,
they estimate that once they get this "mailing" going thousands of un-happy Americans will
join the crowd and the mailings will get completely out of hand.

The politicians have not been talking about the REAL problems facing America today.
Look at web site www.saps08.net to see what the issues really are.

Furthermore, I predict that the U.S., under the leadership of Bush, will solve the immigrant
problem by taking over Mexico and making it a U.S. territory. This will probably happen in
late 2008.

Bumper stickers:

Confused State of America
2008 Vote for this HONEST
Politician ______________

In Washington: If is smacks of
morality or common sense its a
matter of religion!

For President in '08
__ None of the above.

MSNBC, NBC & GE should be banned from ALL of our households! How can they justify excluding Kucinich for low results in Iowa & New Hampshire, then turn around and include several Replubicans who didn't even participate in Iowa & New Hampfhire such as the single most divisive ex-Mayor in New York's history. The same one that against ALL advice positioned our emergency response compound at one of the most high value targets in the city. The same man who marrried his cousin, publicly cheated on his wife and whose own children despise him.

This was a travesty...Truly disgusting.

The reason for this was so transparent and had nothing at all to do with how the candidates finished in Iowa...

This was strictly about keeping out a man who is going to speak truth to power, answer questions honestly, and put forth a truly logical point of view that is uncompromised by outside influences.

In order to keep the other candidates from looking like obvious shills they had to block him.

Had they allowed Kucinich up there it would have exposed rational viewpoints, he would have discussed things that divert from the mindless drivel that the other corporatist DNC stars constantly regurgitate....basically, if you are GE (a defense contractor lets not forget) you don't want someone who is going to provide that much truth and freedom right up next to the controlled candidates spouting their usefless catchphrases and "staying on message" - it would have made it so obvious that Kucinich is for real and truly cares about the constitution, the middle class - and the future of this great nation; which is currently becoming an authoritarian fascist nightmare...

This democracy is rotted through, Kucinich and Dr.Paul are being frozen out because they arent masters of double speak.

Its over, im never voting for the lesser of two evils because you end up with EVIL!

Hillary is UNACCEPTABLE!
Obama is nearly as flimsy as kerry
Edwards is linked arm in arm with globalists
Romney is a complete joke
Guliani needs to atone for what he did to our firefighters in NY
McCain is a total shill
Huckabee is a complete joke and a nutty pretend religious guy

Kucinich and Dr.Paul are the only choices

Alright- where can I get a list of shiny plastic crap made in China --OR-- stuff I might actually want but will now do without. Who's got the list of MSNBC advertisers? I can't watch the station to find out without getting sick.

Shame on the other candidates for even participating. Election reform... after I'm elected the old way- with money.

As a Ron Paul supporter, I can honestly say I know the frustration that the Kucinich supporters are feeling. What can we do to stop this from happening? Well, do what the Ron Paul supporters have done, boycott, write letters to editors, and do not support NBC or Foxnews or any of these networks that blackout candidates. If you have stock in these corporations dump it now, don't wait, get them where it hurts the most, which is financially. These mega media war machines have already selected their candidates, it is up to each individual to do the research, and think for yourselves. Do not allow these networks to do this kind of junk without letting your thoughts on the matter go unheard, stop being sheep.

I am thankful for people in the media such as Andrew Malcolm who on occasion gives me the opportunity to voice my opinion, and thoughts. Kucinich, and Paul supporters do not give up. These two candidates are the only ones with integrity and principles running for President. The media does not want the voices of truth to be heard, instead they want the polished and fake politicians on stage to belch out more rhetoric and fake promises. No offense Obama fans, but he will be a pawn in Washington, as well as to the special interests groups/big corporations. Clinton has way too many strikes against her, she is corrupt, and the proof is easily attained with little research. I won't say much about Edwards, because I sort of like his southern appeal, but he is not Presidential material.

On the Republican side Ron Paul is Hope for our Country, and the only one on the Republican side that actually will use and follow our Constitution. Romney and McCain are just more big government spenders, war-mongering politicians. Huckabee does not represent the conservative, small government platform at all, he is all about RELIGION. Giuliani & Thompson just got thumped by Ron Paul in the Michigan Primary. It was nice to see Mr. 911 get beat by the true conservative, Ron Paul. "The Meek shall inherit the Earth", I think about that every time I see these big media war machines, and our current Administration stomp all over our Constitution, and I think "We The People, will have our Country back". Our time is now to vote with integrity, and not rely on the garbage we are fed by the media or our government.

Go Paul!, Go Kucinich! Go Constitution! Go We The People!
Thank you Mr. Malcolm for letting me have a voice.

Prediction: NO elections in 2008

Here is how it will come about:

1. Time magazine, December 17, 2007. Page 46 "The Fort Dix Conspiracy"

+

2. e-book, www.farviewu.biz Was AIDS a terrorist act?

+

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

+

4. Number of envelopes received in Presidential candidates offices with white powder (sugar?);
One group had brown powder (ant killer?) with note "Don't Bug Me"

=

NO elections in 2008

Have the American political parties set up event 4 to keep themselves in power? They know,
based on event 3, that the person(s) who send these envelopes cannot be traced. Further,
they estimate that once they get this "mailing" going thousands of un-happy Americans will
join the crowd and the mailings will get completely out of hand.

The politicians have not been talking about the REAL problems facing America today.
Look at web site www.saps08.net to see what the issues really are.

Furthermore, I predict that the U.S., under the leadership of Bush, will solve the immigrant
problem by taking over Mexico and making it a U.S. territory. This will probably happen in
late 2008.

Bumper stickers:

Confused State of America
2008 Vote for this HONEST
Politician ______________

In Washington: If is smacks of
morality or common sense its a
matter of religion!

For President in '08
__ None of the above.

I decided to spend more money and upgrade my cable programming so that I could watch the debate on Tuesday night (01/15/2008). I feel cheeted. Dennis Kucinich is the only truthful candidate. I'm boycotting NBC and voting for Kucinich!

 
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