Hey, Dodgers and Angels fans, what's your trade for Roy Halladay?
The best pitcher in baseball might well be Toronto's Roy Halladay. The Blue Jays' general manager, J.P. Ricciardi, has spent the last two days telling everyone that he will listen to offers for Halladay.
That last link, to a report from Fox Sports, seems a bit overblown. To say that "Halladay is a goner" and "Once this process starts, it's almost impossible to stop" -- well, to that we say: Where is Jake Peavy pitching this season?
Nonetheless, with the Jays willing to listen to offers for their ace and the Dodgers and Angels looking for pitching, what would you offer?
Halladay makes $14.25 million this season and $15.75 million next season, after which he would be eligible for free agency. If the Jays decide to trade him, the bidding probably would be so spirited that they would not need to pick up any of Halladay's salary.
The Jays have a talented young corps of pitchers already at the major league level, even without Halladay, so they would not necessarily be looking for a bunch of prospects for a three-year rebuilding project. They would, of course, want young players several years removed from free agency.
You can check out the Jays' stats here.Second baseman Aaron Hill is an All-Star. Left fielder/designated hitter Adam Lind is having a great season too, and Toronto is locked into long-term deals with center fielder Vernon Wells and right fielder Alex Rios. The other key offensive performers -- third baseman Scott Rolen, shortstop Marco Scutaro, first basemen Kevin Millar and Lyle Overbay and catcher Rod Barajas -- are 32 or older. This trade is going to be painful, and it won't be made for three surplus parts. What's your offer?
-- Bill Shaikin
Photo: Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Roy Halladay. Photo credit: Tom Szczerbowski / US Presswire.
Nothing. Another blog opined it would take Bills or Kershaw to start with. No chance. Are you going to extend a 34 year old pitcher or let him walk? Schmidt deal makes me think twice about that. They have come too far by building from within to blow it now. This team is set up to contend for the long term. Keep it intact.
Posted by: BruceAlmighty | July 07, 2009 at 02:52 PM
My trade = Anyone 3 players other than kemp, eithier, martin, loney and kershaw. Maybe DeWit, James McDonald, Xaivier Paul and Tony Abreu??
Posted by: cmm | July 07, 2009 at 02:53 PM
Angels send Howie Kendrick (selling low), Brandon Wood (on whom the organization has apparently soured), and, oh, I dunno, Jered Weaver.
Yeah, I don't see this happening, either.
Posted by: Rob McMillin | July 07, 2009 at 02:54 PM
Scott Elbert, Josh Lindblom and Dee Gordon.......
Posted by: Philip | July 07, 2009 at 03:17 PM
To acquire a talent like Roy Halladay,i would trade Andre Ethier,James Mcdonald,and a Minor Leaguer in return.He would solidify the pitching staff,u would put juan pierre in rt. or center field.
Posted by: AL RAMOS | July 07, 2009 at 04:03 PM
Halladay is a true ace. imo definitely better that Peavy. He would probably command a large bounty and basically strip a teams future and farm system. That being said, the dodgers don't have top prospects in the upper tiers. This would never happen, but they probably would have to trade:
james mcdonald (young pitcher in return)
blake dewitt /ivan dejesus (replace the aging scutaro)
russell martin (replace aging Rod Barajas..besides martin is from ontario, young, good on base percentage, just what JP Ricarddi and his moneyball philosophy wants)
and some boo koo bucks since the dodgers probably dont have anything else toronto needs.
Posted by: cy | July 07, 2009 at 04:15 PM
deal including Brandon Wood -
Wood/Mathis/Reckling/Trumbo
deal without Wood -
SeanRod/Conger/O'Sullivan/Trumbo/lower prospect
I'd rather not deal Wood, but you might have to to get a pitcher of Doc's caliber. they'd get more talent with package 2, but they'd have to be okay with SeanRod instead of Wood.
Posted by: bseballcrzy17 | July 07, 2009 at 04:26 PM
i would compose a package of clayton kershaw, blake dewitt, and perhaps jason mcdonald...if tha'ts not enough then i would throw in last year first round pick, ethan martin.
Posted by: nick | July 07, 2009 at 04:46 PM
I would trade a bag of peanuts, a Dodger dog and the body of Micheal Jackson in return for the Doc.
Posted by: Gary | July 07, 2009 at 04:48 PM
McDonald, Elbert, Hu or DeJesus, and Ethan Martin...
Posted by: MikeClarke | July 07, 2009 at 04:51 PM
hey bill, i would definitely pursue a trade for doc halladay, a pitcher who's in the midst of his prime. i kind of agree with nick, you have to give prospects to get to get a pitcher of doc's caliber...but instead of ethan martin, i would part with a chin-lu hu or something. were not trying to deplete our pitching dept in the minors...
Posted by: noe | July 07, 2009 at 04:58 PM
I think we ask for Halladay and take on Wells and his salary in exchange for Kemp (this is a hard one), McDonald, Wade and Hu. We don't give up a starting pitcher and we take back additional salary but get a #1 and a CF that Torre can get the most out of and should have some good years left.
Posted by: greg | July 07, 2009 at 05:11 PM
Pitching and defense is THE key to winning a championship and Dodgers, although they've been sufficient thus far, DO NOT have playoff pitching. Comparing to the past 20 years (since their last World Series victory), this Dodgers 2009 team is the most likely candidate for a World Series ring and in order for them to win, they absolutely need Roy Halladay or a healthy Jake Peavy. Having said that, Dodgers should look into giving up promising prospects such as Catcher A.J Ellis, OF Xavier Paul, and/or because the Jays are looking for a SS, 3B Hector Luna...considering they have young players at the major league level already. The front office should take advantage of this oppotyunity of winning in the World Series this year by adding an Ace such as Roy Halladay.
Posted by: PeterH. | July 07, 2009 at 05:22 PM
Blake Dewitt
James McDonald
Xavier Paul
Doc Holliday is a game changer but dealing any of our major-league youngsters would hurt us just as much as bringing Holliday in would help us.
The three prospects listed above are a lot to deal for one player, but there isn't really any room for them on the MLB roster in the next couple of years anyways.
Adding Doc Holliday makes the Dodgers the favorites to win it all in 2009 and 2010.
Posted by: Kenny | July 07, 2009 at 05:27 PM
Angels receive: SP Roy Halladay
Blue Jays receive: 2B Sean Rodriguez, C Hank Conger, SP Sean O'Sullivan, 3B/1B Matt Brown, lower prospect.
Posted by: Anthony Smith | July 07, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Kenny, in what universe do the Blue Jays consider dealing Doc for a 4th starter (McDonald) an average second basemen (Dewitt) and a reserve outfielder (Paul)?
Posted by: Walker | July 07, 2009 at 06:05 PM
Pierre and 6 million or so of his contract to White Sox for Poreda
Poreda, Scott Elbert, Kyle Russell, Chin Lung Hu, and Josh Lindblom for Halladay
Posted by: Darren | July 07, 2009 at 06:38 PM
About my trade above, Pierre and Ozzie Guillen are old buddies from Florida and the Sox desperatly need a CF and leadoff hitter.
The Jays get two of the best LHP prospects in baseball in Poreda and Elbert. Hu is a major league ready SS defensivly already and has the potential to be an Orlando Cabrera type player. Russell is an Adam Dunn replica with better defense, monster power!!! Lindblom is one of the top Dodger RHP prospects with a great K/BB ratio. Maybe even put Josh Bell in the trade too to take over for Rolen when he leaves.
Posted by: Darren | July 07, 2009 at 06:42 PM
To get the best you have to give up the best
Roy Halladay
Rod Barajas
For
Kershaw
Martin
James McDonald
Xavier Paul
Hu
Posted by: Brandon | July 07, 2009 at 06:43 PM
Scott Elbert, James Mcdonald, Blake DeWitt or Chin-Lung Hu, Cash considerations
Posted by: Elmer C | July 07, 2009 at 07:55 PM
I'm from western Canada, big baseball fan, huge Blue Jays fan...I would be devestated if Halladay were to be traded. He is a nice classy guy, and one of the top 3 pitchers in the entire MLB. If he wasn't on Toronto he would have won more than one Cy Young award, sad to say. He is 32, almost completes every game he pitches, dominates and confuses the best hitters in baseball on a regular basis. Perennial all-star, fan favorite, and isn't fazed in the least by playing big-time teams like Boston and New York. He would absolutely baffle NL hitters since they aren't accustomed to his stuff, not that it really matters. If he wasn't in the toughest division in baseball he would have playoff experience and would likely be the unanimous #1 pitcher in baseball. The only injuries he has really had were minor, usually legs not elbow or shoulder.
If i was going to trade him to the Dodgers I would want One of (kemp, loney, ethier), one of (billingsley or kershaw) and Martin. For Roy Halladay and Rod Barajas. Pretty steep i know. Fine, we will give you our highly-rated triple-A prospect Arenciba instead of Barajas. If the dodgers don't do something like that, perhaps with Dewitt instead of Martin just for Halladay, then its likely the Red Sox or Yankees will go after him with a package beginning with Bucholz, Hughes.
Posted by: Josh | July 07, 2009 at 07:56 PM
DeWitt - To play 2nd or 3rd
McDonald - Ready for bigs pitcher
DeJesus - Future SS
Ethier - Better than their current OFers
Posted by: Terry | July 07, 2009 at 08:22 PM
halladay and vernon wells for either, mcdonald, elbert and hu
Posted by: CeyHey | July 07, 2009 at 08:56 PM
i dont think the angels are willing to trade conger or trumbo, i think its wood's time to be traded cuz the club has lost a little faith so here it is
Wood/Reckling/AA prospect/Santana or Saunders
i see this as highly unlikely but there are many ways this can go down
Posted by: AngelsBaseball48 | July 07, 2009 at 09:12 PM
1. John Lackey
2. Erick Aybar
3. Vlademir Guerrero
Posted by: brad hill | July 07, 2009 at 10:51 PM