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Fox News back on top in second quarter of 2008

02:50 PM PT, Jun 26 2008

NEW YORK — Fox News is poised to reclaim the title of the most-watched cable news network in the key advertising demographic in the second quarter of 2008.

The cable channel attracted the most 25- to 54-year-old viewers in prime-time this quarter, according to preliminary Nielsen Media Research data, drawing an average of 346,000 in that age group through Tuesday.

CNN, which was buoyed to first place last quarter by the presidential primaries, is back in second place with an average of 301,000 viewers in the demographic most sought after by advertisers. MSNBC is in third with 269,000. (Final numbers will be available next week.)

CNN’s win in the key demographic in the first quarter of 2008 marked the first such victory for the cable news network in more than six years, and its success with political coverage animated executives.

Bill Shine, Fox News’ senior vice president for programming, said his network regained the top spot in the second quarter because “we do better television than anybody else.”

“In the first quarter, CNN benefited from an intense Democratic race, but I think in the second quarter, after they spent millions and millions on sets and talent and graphics, it wasn’t enough for them,” he said.

Still, CNN’s viewership in the second quarter was up 24% in the key demographic, compared with the same period last year, while Fox News was down 1%. MSNBC’s audience was also up, spiking 46% year-to-year.

“The facts say it all: CNN is up 24% in prime-time, while Fox is down,” said CNN spokeswoman Christa Robinson, who added that the network did not build new sets for its political coverage. “The trends are clearly in our favor.”

Fox News rejected the characterization that its audience was eroding, noting that its viewership was essentially flat.

“The only current trend is CNN losing their momentum and battling MSNBC for second place,” Shine said.

Overall, Fox News continues to pull in the largest cable news audience, drawing an average of 1.6 million prime-time viewers so far this quarter. CNN is in second with 977,000, while MSNBC pulled in 690,000.

-- Matea Gold

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I agree. Fox news does do better television than anyone else. However, if I wanted to watch a soap opera I'd watch NBC. CNN and MSNBC are the best when it comes to actual NEWS.

It disappoints me to be reminded that the majority of so called television watchers still hear what they consider news on the Fixed News Channel. In my view, MSNBC demonstrates excellence in depth of coverage with appealing news hosts. When they go to ads or when I thirst for a different view, I switch to CNN, which I consider a close 2nd to MSNBC. The Fixed News channel, to me is a pathetic joke. I also check regularly with the MSNBC News web site as well as listen, watch and read news on the Democracy Now website and of course, The Huffington Post. I also check daily, the English version of Aljazeera on their web site and the Asian Times. Some of the best news of what's happening here in our own backyard only appears on sites such as Aljazeera or The Asian Times, although the MSNBC or BBC web sites are terrific too.

MSNBC would be better if they weren't so biased. They have practically made Obama into Jesus. The station would be 100 times better if they got rid of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews.

Viewers are turning to CNN and MSNBC to get their news because FOX has proven itself to be less of a news operation and more of a right wing propaganda outlet. People are turned off by bias in all areas of the media but Fox News and its over-the-top right-wing slant and divisive reporting does nothing to Unite the country during a time of war and economic collapse.

how sad for America.

I watch foxnews , not because I like it but , to hear the lies. Once I hear the lies I then , know what is really going on. I like to know what the enemy is sayiing and thinking. Basicially I watch for what they are not saying and, I can afford to watch Fox , I get my information else and , I always cross check what they say to , make sure its true because, they very rarely tell the whole truth. They either leave stuff out or add untruths, it depends on what their agenda is. The other reason I watch them is , they love war and , I'm intrested in finding out where, the next American will be.

I cannot believe that so many people in the U.S. are such morans. Do they honestly believe that the tripe that FOX news produces is actually news. I still remember this bile from my teen years growing up in the British Isles. Rupert Murdock did his dirt on the worker's in his printing plant in London. I will never forget his breaking that union, as my Dad was a union organizer. I have nothing but contempt for Murdock or anyone who pays lip service to him.

Me a progressive liberal so irritated with the MSNBC coverage turned to Fox because they were the only ones covering the Democratic Primary's objectively and the Kabooki Dance of CNN and MSNBC was pathetic. I have had it with the Edward R Murrow wanabee Olberman he's nothing but in love with himself

Amazing: FOX news or propaganda channel with non-sense stories which have no realtion to the current events ...stories on rape, personal problems of people etc etc ...well may be FOX tailor its news to the cluless citizens with no thinking involved ...Sad for US....

I never rely on one news source, and I don't think most people do.

TV, radio, newspapers, web and especially our friends...most of us easily find variable content, on the different subjects, we follow.

Cable news has yet to beat Sponge Bob in prime time.

MSNBC and CNN are serious news network. FOX, with rare exceptions, is number 1 in distortion and manipulation with undisguised GOP/Nixon bias. They appear to invest more money in Live Television which is more appealing than documentaries reruns (CNN) and catch a predator like shows (MSNBC). But the seeds of great TV News are in the hands of MSNBC & CNN. When those at FOX in the shadows of Nixon decided to stop smearing propaganda memos and encourage independent thinking, FOX in addition to good ratings will acquire respect and credibility. FOX can champion conservative causes but not shameless lies and politics of hate.

I don't understand how this could be. I thought it was proven that only 28% of Americans are demented!

“we do better television than anybody else.” -- too bad that "television" passes itself off to the viewer as a legitimate source of news.

They may do better television, but they don't serve up real news. They serve up nothing but propaganda. There is a reason why Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the radical right go to Fox for interviews.

Why is this is news? The top 3 cable networks are viewed by 3.2 million people in prime time? A trivial number. There are 300 million people in the US, about half of whom could watch. That means less than 2% are watching the "big 3". Pathetic! Who cares about the lame media except the media itself? NOBODY!!

Guess what! I gave up TV news this week and feel 100% better!! No kidding, no more Chris, Keith, Greta, etc. What a relief, I can tell you honestly they were beginning to get to me. Do you realize that in England they just tell you the news? They don't manipulate you into trying to see things their way, they just TELL you what happened that day. I figure if anything cataclysmic happens, someone will run out into the street yelling like crazy and we'll know then.

I am advising everybody to try this - see if you don't feel better not knowing who the worst person is for just two days. Even Colbert and Stewart should do something different. you can pretend to be conservative for just so long, Steven, then it gets a bit old.

How very sad!

Fox News is notorious for peddling outright lies, and daily outpourings of fabricated statistics (mostly from Bill O' Reilly) that supposedly back up his bogus reports. It is very, very troublesome when we hear that Fox leads the way in viewing audience because propaganda does work.

How can any intelligent person respect Fox, especially as "fair and balanced???"

The owner Murdoch and his manager Roger Ailes are practically old right wing extremists. Murdoch has said he pushed Fox and his other US papers to use their influence, in story bias, in not showing the costs of Iraq in deaths, wounded, and massive spending [which you'd think conservatives would care about if not lives].

If CNN is dow at all it's because MSNBC has stepped up to the plate and put some some analysists on, and have become good at making all too easy fun of the Republican Party, which many of it's own peole are running away from, as McCain does from Bush.

Sen.Obama is using rather small donations to not be owned by lobbys, like McCain clearly is. He's done well that way but still needs more to fight the fat cats who will throw money into a smear campaign against him over the next few months.

80% of Americans think the country is going in the wrong direction under Cheney/Bush reguime. EVERY LIE Cheney told this country, was sold to the public via FOX NEWS.
How that channel has any viewers, only shows 28% of America is too stupid to admit they bought every lie.

How stupid is the americans people?? Watching Fox = propaganda = GOP channel.

People who watch Fox news do not want to be informed they want propaganda, they want to feel good about torture, immoral invasions, global warming etc...Fox watchers drive huge SUVs are really fat, leave the air conditioning on in the spring and fall, and don't care if their government is responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity...they don't want to know if jews are being gassed or amased in the concentration camps...they are no different than the Germans that believed every word coming out of Hitler's mouth...those who watch CNN, ABC are not much better CBS and NBC start to inform a little bit but are careful not to invite people like Noam Chomsky....the only real news in America today is on Democracy NOW!....It is a sad reflection on America that Fox is number one...really sad that so many Americans watch this trash!

There should be a law against being officially categorized as a news network, which in reality just entertains.

I like to refer to them as Faux Snooze

I wouldn't put to much stock into this, look where it coming from,The LA times and the Nelison who we know do not really to a good job.

"MSNBC would be better if they weren't so biased. They have practically made Obama into Jesus. The station would be 100 times better if they got rid of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews"
Posted by: Lauren O'Rourke | June 26, 2008 at 06:44 PM


Are you serious?! Are you implying saying that Fox News is so popular because it isn't biased? Bias is the driving force behind Fox news and now liberals watch it just to laugh at the fear mongering and lies. You are clearly uninformed. Hardball with Chris Matthews and Countdown with Keith Olberman are MSNBC's HIGHEST RATED SHOWS! Why would a network get rid of their highest rated shows?!

Some people just don't get it.

Fox News is to journalism as wrestling is to sports. It does well because of flashy graphics and jingoism.

It remains a mystery why such a large audience enjoys false information. In various PEW Reseach & Truth in Media projects, FOX News was only correct in their news accounts 60% of the time. It is not a serious news venue, but rather an intertainment channel. Not only is Ruper Murdoch & Co. a disgrace in spewing hatred and false reporting, but it is a blow to the American Educational System on why so many idiots would watch Fox Cable News.

FIX News is a good channel for the proselytizers. Go somewhere else if you are not brain dead.

FOX news is pure propaganda, just like MSNBC. You choose to watch which side you more relate to. I think that Oreily is a Hack, so is Hannity and the loudmouth fact distorting drama queens at FOX.

Kieth Olberman is carrying MSNBC right now, but I believe he is far more popular than anything on FOX, regardless of what the ratings say.

Olberman is a left wing version of those guys, but I never notice him distorting the truth like Oreily and hannity do.

FOX is entertainment for the old guard, they are not news!!!!

It is sad that this country would watch a station that is focused on fear mongering and hate. Fox does not report objectively, They report what the corporate sponsors ask them to. I for one will not support any advertiser that supports Fox and will look elsewhere for my goods and services.

"The Huffington Post. I also check daily, the English version of Aljazeera on their web site and the Asian Times."

Scary.

" MSNBC demonstrates excellence in depth of coverage with appealing news hosts. "
-Oh yeah, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, such depth, such excellence, no bias.

"Viewers are turning to CNN and MSNBC to get their news because FOX has proven itself to be less of a news operation and more of a right wing propaganda outlet."
-Viewers AREN'T turning to CNN and MSNBS. Their ratings go from abysmal to pathetic and you morons think they're doing great. You are so blinded by your bias that unless anchors toe the Obamessiah line, you think they're the ones who are biased

I find it hard to believe that people can watch that whiny Hannity and the incredibly arrogant O’reilly. To hear Billo complain that he might have to pay more taxes if Obama is elected is just sickening. Hannity is perhaps the worst as his show has virtually no entertainment value, he just whines. Like Rush Lipbalm on the radio, Oreilly says enough silly and stupid thing you can get a laugh now and again. On the other side, can’t stand Olberman, but I find Matthews enthusiasm refreshing.

god help us...and we wonder why this country is going down the toilet when Fox passes for news

god help us...and we wonder why this country is going down the toilet when Fox passes for news

Bill Shine, Fox News’ senior vice president for programming, said his network regained the top spot in the second quarter because “we do better television than anybody else.”

Love it. Better television. That's the best motivation a news station can have. No conflict of interest there.

Why is it that in almost any discussion about left versus right the left has to go to the lowest level of civility? Name calling and telling lies just to make a point. You can't watch someone like Keith Olbermann because he is so disgusting. He and Chris Mathews are both irriatatingly rude and melicious. At least a discussion with say Brit Hume and the panel he puts together gives you a civil discourse of the subject at hand. Even Bill O'Rielly will have opposing arguments voiced on his show but not the MSNBC duo. It is so obvious that they are in the tank for the Democrats that you have no need to watch them and that is one reasons I no longer do. If KO thinks he is doing the watchers any good he is sorely mistaken.

I wonder how many of those 346,000, like me, occasionally watch FOX because it is just so horrible. Kind of like when you slow down to stare at a particularly gruesome car accident.

Question: Why aren't we boycotting FOX? We're kicking Lieberman out of office - we made an impact on FISA - why are we still allowing FOX to spread its hatred and lies every single day to nearly half a million people, unchallenged? If we could just get a petition going to boycott the advertisers that tout their products on FOX, and get enough people to sign it, we could send them a message that we're tired of their non-stop propaganda. If we don't: goodbye ANWR, goodbye clean beaches, because FOX is now batting 24/7 for BIG OIL, convincing America that drilling for more oil is the only way to change gas prices in the short term, though they know for a fact that it's a lie.

Is Rupert Murdoch satan? Seriously, he's the most ridiculously evil person I can think of alive today.

Fox News is nothing more than the mouthpiece for the extreme right political wing. As a result, I never watch it. I have no interest in propaganda.

People don't want to hear the truth. Fairy tales are easier to deal with and that's what fox "news" broadcasts.

are you kidding me Fox , I mean Fixed News is the most powerful propaganda tools for the likes of Rove & Co
Ever since this administration took office they have consistently
preached hate and promoted this war
I believe that the only reason they may have high numbers is that
we are watching a comedy show but actually there are few crazys
watching it for real

What's lost in this is not that FN is number one again, it's that combined, more than 60% of these viewers are NOT getting their news from Fox. Sad as it is that 300k+ people still choose to drink the Faux News kool-aid, I feel a little better knowing that those viewers are not the majority.

Yeah, there are a lot of old guys with their pants pulled up to their armpits sleeping in front of Faux News all day. That can sure skew the stats.

I got frustrated with CNN because they repeat so much of the boring stuff and the effects during actual real-time news would set off anyone with a seizure disorder.

You're a mean one, Fox News.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Fox News.
You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
You're a monster, Fox News
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Fox News
I wouldn't touch you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.
(remote control)
You're a vile one, Fox News.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Fox News
Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Fox News
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Fox News
The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote: "Stink. Stank. Stunk."
You're a rotter, Fox News
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Fox News
Your soul is an apalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.
You nauseate me, Fox News
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Fox News
You're a three decker saurkraut and toadstool
sandwich
With arsenic sauce

Faux News has made a shrewd business decision. People naturally want their beliefs reinforced and they give Republicans a outlet to do that by providing slanted news. Since Republicans are around 40% of the population (with around 50% Democrats and 10% Indy), they are guaranteed a high percentage of viewers. They don't care if they're balanced or not because they're not trying to be. They can't pick up more people because of their bias, they're simply trying to maintain their 40%, which will always beat out the other networks, since they battle over the indy and democratic leaning viewers.

FOX regained their status because of Blond hair and Boobs! Watch their news and see the pretty, young newscasters (if that's what you want to call them) with blond hair and deep cleavage showing. FOX sells sex. Look at their website and you will see that they sell SEX. That's right, folks, the MORAL MAJORITY SELLS SEX and sensationalism. Christians, rejoice in your network of choice.

FAUX news back on top? I KNEW Neilsen was worthless. I watched O'Really(?) once, and remembered my Dad saying "You don't have to fork over the whole pile to know what's in it."

FAUX news back on top? I KNEW Neilsen was worthless. I watched O'Really(?) once, and remembered my Dad saying "You don't have to fork over the whole pile to know what's in it."

MSNBC would be better off if it got rid of its crime related OCD. How many times can you watch programs on San Quentin and paedophiles at prime time. Living in the west coast, these programs turn up at 8pm - what a waste. And do we really need Olbermann at 5, 7 and 11? How about more original content.

The sooner one network realizes that they need to something different during a major news event other than have a zombie camera focus on a press conf or a so-called major speech - the better. That and, having to watch police officers using tranquilizer darts on some scare-out-of-its-wits animal for 30 minutes. Why do all 3 have to be showing the same crap at the same time??

FAUX news back on top? I KNEW Neilsen was worthless. I watched O'Really(?) once, and remembered my Dad saying "You don't have to fork over the whole pile to know what's in it."

I would be interested to know how many out of that more than 300,000 watch Fox during Prime Time simply as an entertainment source. I'll be very honest and say that I very often watch Bill O'Reily. In fact, he is usually who I switch to during commercials on whatever other television I am watching. I have NEVER ONCE seen an objective piece from that clown, but he serves as a constant reminder of what an old, bitter, chauvinistic (in the true sense of the word: look it up), egotist in America is like. He's the typical dirt-bag you run into in many situations in which you'd like to just punch in the tooth, but you don't because you know he'll go running to his lawyers; and he's a waste of time. Nevertheless, he's fun to watch, because he is shameless in every way.

So, am I alone? I don't think so. In fact, almost everyone I know watches him on a somewhat regular basis, but only so that they know what the right wing lunatics are spewing from the greedy, self-centered, exceptionalist holes in their little heads. I would guess that at least 20-30,000 of those viewers are watching him for reasons that have hothing to do with his "news." And I would venture to say that the rest of Prime Time Fox News is the same.

You left-wing losers will never realize how slanted CNN and MSNBC are until you watch Fox. Typical liberals, criticize and complain about anyone who disagrees with your views. Call them liars because they don't say what you want to hear. There is a reason that Fox wins all these ratings. People do not want to hear the same crap over and over and over. Obama is not the "messiah" and is an "empty suit" with "marxist" views. He will never be President. He is too much of a coward to make any appearances without a script. He is afraid of Town Hall meetings because he can't read his answers, they have to be rehearsed. The "hate" from the left is amazing, and the only "race baiting" is coming from that Obama's people.

I was a big fan of MSNBC and watched the whole line up with Olbermann being my favorite hose, but the biased coverage against Hillary Clinton and their elevation of Obama to near sainthood was a total turnoff. Add to that no other news seemed to ever be covered but the primaries. Olbermann who seems to have lost it. You can add Chris Matthews in as well. He is a total misogynist. They can blame themselves for their ratings tanking.

It is so hard to believe that Fox is number one! I think there is so much bias and racial overtones. And what is up with Sean Hannity? It seems to me that he has a personal hatred towards Obama. Fox is not fair and it is truly unbalanced.

"Why is this is news? The top 3 cable networks are viewed by 3.2 million people in prime time? A trivial number. "

It shows that of the 3.267 million people intrested enough in hearing about what's happening in the world - every day, half choose Fox News. All of the stories of Fox being fixed or the using Faux News is trivial. It has a personal impact on the viewer.

I started watching Fox when the Nathaniel Jones incident was happening. He was a 350lbs African American who was beaten by police and had a heart attack which was captured on a cruisers dashboard cam. I saw the video on ABC, CBS then NBC. Later on at my parents, my father was watching Fox (Brit Hume) and the story came up. I told him how stupid the cop was then Brit Hume mentioned that we may have seen the tape and showed the man being billy clubbed by a cincinnati cop. Brit then went on to say 'Here's the part you probably didn't see" and then showed fottage from the same cruiser that showed 2 cops walking up to the man and he hauls offd and decks the first cop initiating the beating administered by the 2nd cop. Brit and his panel then spent 10 min. discussing why the whole footage was not being shown by the other networks.
Needless to say, I now believe that Fox is the network that balances out everyone else. They called out Richard Clark when he changed his mind about 9-11 (played his briefing tape from 9-11) that undermined his own testimony to the 9-11 commission. They really put the fire under CBS and called out Dan Rather for lying (even though LGF did the investigating, Fox was the traction). They've inspired the creation of Jessica's Law and held people accountable that previously were never were because of their close affiliation with the democratic party.
If you believe our system of government is broke, it's because freedom of the press is abused and almost wholly owned by the left. Someone (Rupert Murdock) saw the opening for reporting on things the rest of the press would have ommited and/or ignored and has made a killing and will continue to do so because he shares that half of the market with no one.

Don't worry folks. Once advertisers get a look at the electoral map come November they'll be running from FOX like they're being chased by Godzilla. The era of hate politics is drawing to a close. Once the advertiser dollars dry up so will FOX News. In fact, I hope they all disappear. FOX, CNN and MSNBC. They all remind me of the old Monty Python skit where the patron came to pay to have an argument. He paid his $5 and was directed to a room down a long hall. One in the room he say waiting for the person across the desk to say something. Finally becoming frustrated the patron said, "I paid $5 to have an argument." The employee replied, "No you didn't." On it went. Finally, the patron remarked, "An argument is more than a series of contradictions." The employee, "No it isn't." All of cable news is founded on the principal that contradiction is news. It needs to vanish before it does any more harm to our democracy and our society. A tip: Watch BBC America or The News Hour on PBS. You'll get unbiased straight news. You're not learning anything that you need to know, or that you don't already know, from the shouting bobble heads.

MSNBC is the most biased news station there is. They should have just announced that they were part of Obama's election campaign staff. Their treatment of Hillary was an obmination. I do not know how they keep their broadcast license. GE should be ashamed for allowing such dribble to be put out on the air. Mika on Morning Jo was so prejuiced in Obama's favor that she was ridiculous.

In Eastern Massachusetts, Comcast is deleting MSNBC from basic cable. I've heard other cable providers have done the sam.

Remember when the motto of Fox was "Fair and balanced?" Now the observant will note the more common refrain is "The most powerful name in news" which speaks to their true goal. In this they are finally accurate in reporting.

Face the facts..... Fox is better .... sweet and simple .... Fox is much better than MSNBC and CNN ... They beat them even if you combine their viewer's, sorry but that's a fact.

Nope it shows Americans are naive and will take anti Americans "journalists" as real journalist and- news. They don't have to think for themselves they don't mind the flashy hatred and dumb male and females that are in front of the camera. Oh the fact they like to bring up "news" old as 5 to 10 years back and pretend to make it real since all the do is slant it.

This is no different than magazione sales: There are certain magazines that smart people buy but they never outsell complete crap like OK WEEKLY and PEOPLE.

Same applies to Fox News. Them getting Those millions of viewers doesn't mean they're better it just means there are more dumb-dumbs than smart folks in the country.

CNN and MSNBC are as biased as it gets. To suggest otherwise is to demonstrate your ignorance and pack mentality the left is known for.

I watch Fox for one reason only. Because it's a better News Network. Granted, I don't like all their stuff, but at least I'm getting closer to the truth of the news than the other news organizations. NBC ,CNN, MSNBC, all seem to carry the same message as the Comedy Central News reporters. They are good for a couple of grins.

Fox News? How disappointing. Must be Middle East civi's too. Geraldine Ferraro is part of Fox panel of pundits now, telling the world that she is not voting Obama.....boo hoo. Fox is such a vile, contemptuous bunch of idiot's.

After watching CNN's Bias reporting with Barack Obama... and how they bad mouthed Hillary Clinton the whole election season, and started saying she was out of the race back in December of last year before Obama was even in the lead. After seeing them insert the race card whenever they felt like doing it.. I have to say I do not trust CNN.

CNN is alright to watch during the day, but in the evening for regular news stories when you want to hear the real issues, and the facts in politics as opposed to just a bunch of liberal nonsense, and not be lied to by a bunch of annalist, and anti American socialist... it's best to just tune into Fox News.

The only reason CNN would not catch the top spot is because they lied to people, led the voters astray by false polls & reporting, are in love with Barack Obama, and they blab out bias reporting that no one can trust.

So CNN can keep spending their millions for all I care, I’m not buying into it I will just change the channel. Thank God I was able to upgrade my Satellite Cable package programs to 200 channels and I get more news stations then just CNN now, because I can see the light.

During his final closing comments on signing off his daily CNN "news" [ or propaganda ] show today about 7:57pm EDT 5/10/08, Lou Dobbs made some vague comment, while chuckling, about something I did not recognize, but paid close attention to: "Newsome Koolaid." What was that supposed to reference? In the subsequent past 20 minutes I have Googled this [ Google suggests "Newson Kool Aid" and clicking that link leads to bright orange Reebok athletic shoes, click that & you get about a dozen different Reebok shoes, but none of them are called "Newsome Koolaid." ] The 2nd. Google link is to this site, and I don't see anything about "Newsome Koolaid," so please enlighten this usually in-touch 60 y.o. WM physician, who has a keen curiosity that is not easily squelched ! Thanks, jeffkiser@triad.rr.com

I prefer FOX

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