Joni's condo kitchen remodel: Coming into the final stretch

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This tile, which cost $600, looks gorgeous.Joni's condo kitchen update is nearly done. (See the project up to now.) Joni's friend and fellow nurse Patti is helping out, and she files this report:

I'm home from the mountains and went to see Joni's kitchen today. It's beautiful! I am thrilled and so is she. (Click photos to enlarge.)

Joni opted to have a friend who is a "tile guy" finish the tiling. She helped him and said that our thin set was definitely too thin. He applied it the same as we did; it was just thicker. We'll never make that mistake again. The tile guy also did the grout work for her and had a tile saw to cut the few that required adjustments. I think she had just had it with the mess we had to clean up after using thin set that was too thin.

We are very close to being done. I think one day or so of clean-up just may do it. We need to finish some drywall work and put a finish coat of paint on the kitchen walls. And then we'll replace the switch plates.

Joni is already talking about how to carry the mood and color palette from the kitchen into the living room. I can't believe the balance that the chocolate-colored panels at the top of the cabinets (see that here) provides to the tile. I really don't know if it's just dumb luck or if there was some intuition at play in the color choice. However it came to us, I'll take it. It's beautiful.

We have one more issue to resolve: how to hang pendant lights from a solid beam over the breakfast bar. I'll be asking your advice in a future posting.

 

Rosarito Beach condo remodel

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Hmm. The wall is off kilter 1 inch in every direction. How do I make these cabinets fit?

How did Don Maurizio puzzle out the cabinet installation in his Rosarito Beach kitchen? Click here to read the whole story.

 

Laundry room/bathroom combo a great idea

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If a washer and dryer can work in a kitchen, why not in a bathroom?In a previous post, Andrew C. wondered how to best use the extra space on the ground floor of his Crofton, Md., townhouse. He wanted both a larger laundry area and a bathroom.

Several readers gave good suggestions. Helen thought up a different configuration for the space with room for a big bath and a bigger laundry room.

Readers Jose and modernemama each suggested a stackable washer and dryer to free up space for, perhaps, shelving.

But it was lil_gaucha who has my vote for this idea: Use all the space for a combination laundry room and full bath. Then, Andrew gets a nice big space to do his laundry, and when he sells the townhouse in five years, the appraisal will reflect that extra full bath.

After doing some Internet searching, I see this is not an uncommon use of space. At first it seemed a little odd, having a toilet in the laundry area. But after seeing a few photos, especially with the washer and dryer behind folding doors, I warmed up to the plan.

I was also reminded of Bethany Orlemann's brilliance when she incorporated the space of her service porch into the kitchen and then added front loaders under a counter. It made her Eagle Rock kitchen much larger and her laundry area is stylish.

You like the idea of a combo bathroom/laundry room?

(Photos: Bethany Orlemann)

 

Joni's kitchen remodel: Mystery of the slipping tile solved

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This tile has a handmade look, and precise grout lines are not called for. The vibe it's providing is so perfect for the goals of the homeowner Joni.

Patti here. Since our weekend tile project, which Joni and I wrote about in a previous post, we have gathered some valuable information.

First and foremost is that thinset should be the consistency of peanut butter! Ours was more the consistency of sour cream, so it was too thin. (Notice the food references; it is a kitchen, after all.)

Second, with this Oceanside tile, we need to make certain we thoroughly cut through the thinset all the way to the wall surface with the quarter-inch notched trowel. That means when we apply the thinset and pull it across the wall with the notched side of the trowel, we should hear the trowel scratching on the wall.

All things considered, I think our problem was that the consistency of the thinset was too thin and we applied it too thickly.

To our credit, we weighed and measured the proportions exactly, to the manufacturer's specifications. But there are variables to consider, I'm sure, and we now know to mix it thicker no matter how precise our measurement. These are the types of things a professional would know.

For Joni and I, a couple of novices, I consider this all well within a reasonable learning curve, and I'm tickled with the tile. It's beautiful and has exactly the right feel to set off the colors and features of this kitchen. We'll keep you posted.

See the project so far.

 

Joni's condo kitchen remodel: Setting the tile, finally

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Here's the tile we got up over the weekend.

Patti here. I'm helping my friend and fellow nurse Joni spruce up her kitchen. (See the project so far).

And here are the steps we took.Well, we got some tile up over the weekend. Whew, it was a lot of work. With this, as with everything else, there was quite a learning curve. We were extremely careful to plan the placement, have all of our supplies ready and be versed on the instructions before we started (Photo 1).

We cut out a template for placement to make sure we had everything right, then applied the thinset (a thin mortar) with a trowel with one side having quarter-inch notches in it.

We put the thinset on with the flat side of the trowel, then ran back through it with the notched side of the tool, then back over one more time with the flat side of the tool. The reason for the smoothing is that we have some semi-transparent tiles that would show the trowel lines had we not knocked them down.

We placed the first sheet of tile up and had to finesse it into place, which created a lot of thinset oozing through the seams. We didn't quite know this as we had to leave the paper coating on for about 20 minutes (2). We then soaked the paper with water and removed it, much like removing wallpaper.

It was a mess underneath. We moved on to the rest of the wall (3), which is behind and above the stove, in the same fashion. We noticed the tiles slipping down the wall so the margins were no longer matching to the sheet already up!

We tried to hold the sheets of tile in place, which, I can tell you, was not effective. To keep tiles from slipping down the wall, I nailed a trim piece (which Joni had from the cabinet we had removed previously) directly under the tile (4), and I then hammered nails under the tiles themselves through the paper backing, to take some of the weight of the top tiles off the bottom tiles. The problem is that the thinset was moving down all along, even though the tiles stayed in place.

Now I'm not sure if this is a common problem or if the mix was too thin. I do believe we applied it too thick, except that is hard to assess in that the thinset on the top areas was very thin and beautiful and on the bottom very heavy and messy (5 and 6).

Joni worked on the project for about nine hours Saturday and was so wound up and frustrated that she was unable to sleep. I got a very distressed call Sunday that she was just done! She wanted to hire out the rest no matter what the cost, and she thought we wouldn't be able to salvage what was already up, thus wasting $300 in tile.

I assured her the best I could and went over to her house Sunday evening to take a look. By that time, she had discovered that if she applied water to the surface of the tiles, she was able to chip and rub the excess thinset off (7).

I helped her for about an hour and got it almost entirely done. It's vital to get the grout lines clear of all white thinset so that it doesn't show against the darker grout. Joni feels much better about it now.

I think it looks beautiful and that we have the most difficult area by far done. The rest of the job is only five tiles high, just above the counter, which isn't much weight and the tile will have the counter to rest on. Also, we need a few spacers so there is a grout line at the junction where the tile meets the top of the counter. But this is for Joni to decide.

It may be that when I get home from camping this week, the tile job will be done.

I think we've done pretty well for a couple of novices on a tight budget which, by the way, I think we'll still be pretty close to, unless Joni hires out the rest. I think it would be nice to finish ourselves so that we know we can do it, but as I said, that's totally her call.

It looks so good with the chocolate-colored wall above the cabinets (8 and 9). It looks like it was totally meant to be that way. I love it and am still having fun. Go figure.

And here are comments from the star of the show, Joni:

It was blood, sweat and tears over this little area behind my stove. As Patti explained, all the thinset settled to the bottom of the wall and the wood trim kept it there behind the tiles. I was attempting to remove the hardening thinset between the tiles for the grout lines (as recommended) once that was removed.

To make sure the tiles were flat against the wall, and not floating on various thicknesses of thinset, I used a 2-by-4 to gently tap the tiles flat and even. Then, thinset would ooze out between the tiles and I would have to start over again. I'm glad I spent the time to make sure all the tiles were flat against the wall and the nails (about 40 of them) kept the tiles in place. The spaces between the tiles are very close. Fortunately, with the type of tile it is, it looks great.

It turned out beautiful and I love it! I feel good about the job we did. I am getting bids on the remaining backsplash and will let you know what I decide. I love my kitchen and Patti has been great. My kitchen has a great vibe!

 

Alternative to a massive stove hood

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Don't like big stove hoods? Here's an alternative.Here's an unusual design in a Los Feliz kitchen. Instead of a massive stainless-steel or stucco-looking stove hood over the gigantic range and built-in grill, these homeowners opted for a fan hidden behind faux cabinets. Plus, there are some pot hangers tucked in there as well.

I'm not sure I would do this, but I can see the logic. The home is a 1920s Spanish Revival, just half a block from Griffith Park, and perhaps it was thought that a great big hood would look out of sync? Or maybe someone had bad memories of hitting his or her head on a big stove hood and thus wanted to prevent that from happening again?

Whatever the reason, the next owner could change it. With a price tag of just under $3.4 million, this featured Home of the Week in today's Real Estate section will surely be bought by people with a lot of options in life.

What do you think of this idea?

 

Ceiling detail of the $20,000 kitchen remodel

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I got a bunch of questions about the original ceiling and archway of the $20,000 kitchen remodel in the latest Rate This Remodel feature. So I thought I'd show the old and new compared here:

It was time for that dated track lighting to go bye-bye.

What's neat about the story, for me, is that Dani had a lot of time to think about her kitchen. The archway detail into the breakfast room is something she had thought about for years, and she was clear on the molding she wanted. Because of all of this planning, her contractor said, she was one of the easiest clients he has ever worked with.

So if getting the funds to do your remodel is taking longer than you'd like, put that time to use the way Dani did. The eventual remodel will be much better for it.

 

Joni's condo kitchen remodel: a little snag in setting tile

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We need to do a little tweaking before we set the backsplash tile.Patti here. I'm helping my friend and fellow nurse Joni with the update of her condo kitchen.

We were supposed to be laying the backsplash tile this week, but we hit a little snag. Well, it's a time snag more than anything else, probably costing a week and $100.

As it turns out, we need to move the light sockets and switches up the wall for the tile to be set straight across and without a lot of cutting. A handyman came out today, and he thought he could do the job. He'll also run a wire up the inside of the wall so Joni can hang a pendant light over the eating bar, and he'll fix a fan/light in the kitchen that Joni hasn't been able to use for a couple of years.

We'll have to get the tile up next week because I'll be camping for a week after that and our time will run out. At first Joni was not sure we could lay the tile ourselves, but perhaps because we've had so much success with the painting and other projects she feels more confident in our abilities.

Also, Joni decided to get a tall contemporary dining room table with bar-height chairs to replace the big oak table and hutch she's had for years. We discovered that oak sets like this sell for only $250 or so on Craigslist, so Joni might take hers to the local consignment shop (where she found her tall table) so that she doesn't have to deal with the hassle of potential buyers coming over to the house.

Stay tuned. We're almost done!

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Rate This Remodel: $20,000 Northridge kitchen

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This kitchen remodel cost $20,000 and took three weeks to complete. What do you think of it? What would you have done differently?

First, here are the facts:

• The kitchen remodel in this 1971 Northridge tract house cost $20,000 and was done in three weeks. (Click on the photos to get a larger view)
• Homeowner Dani Taylor did none of the work herself, but hired a contractor well known in the neighborhood.
• Dani had many years to imagine how she would improve her kitchen as other remodeling projects and additions to the house took priority.
• Rather than investing in new cabinets, Dani had her cabinet boxes refaced and got new doors and drawer fronts.
• She added an amazing amount of extra counter space by designing the new, angled cabinet section you see on the right of the remodel photos.
• While most of the appliances are new, she opted to keep her dishwasher, which worked fine, and got a new panel for the front.
• A few concessions were made to keep within budget, including keeping the existing tile floor and not pushing the kitchen into an adjacent breakfast area.
• But Dani did not have to give up her dream of granite counters, which were fit into the budget.

Here's a chance to offer some feedback:

 

Joni's condo kitchen remodel: virtual backsplash tile

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Here's sorta what the tile will look in Joni's condo kitchen remodel. Now what about the wall color?As Joni waits for her new backsplash tile to be delivered, and we all wait to see how it will look installed, clever POD Person* Mike did some computer magic to show us the end result.

Above, on the right, you can see a representation of what Joni's tile might look like up on the wall.

Also, Mike suggests a mustardy wall color instead of the cream or terra cotta colors being considered.

Thank you, Mike!

See the project so far

* POD Person: a member of the Pardon Our Dust blog community; one who fixes up a home; one who creates dust

(Photos: Kathy Price-Robinson; photo illustration: Mike Johnson)

 




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Kathy Price-Robinson has written about remodeling for 17 years, focusing both on the process of home improvement, as well as the product. She writes for both consumer and contractor magazines, and her award-winning series, Pardon Our Dust, has appeared in the print edition of the Real Estate section of The Times since 1997. This blog is a spin-off of that column. Kathy lives in a house with good bones and a lot of potential, and shares her life with one husband, one dog, two horses and three quite exceptional stepdaughters.

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