Can 'Iron Man 2' beat 'The Dark Knight'?
And exactly three days after that, we could have a new domestic box-office record.
Stark himself, never lacking in suave self-confidence, probably wouldn't make such a bold boast. But it's entirely feasible.
According to just-released tracking surveys, director Jon Favreau's second installment in the Marvel franchise is showing astonishing levels of interest and awareness well ahead of its three-day opening next month. There are enough statistical indications to think that the first-weekend gross could top the $158.4-million haul for "Dark Knight", the current record-holder for the biggest (non inflation-adjusted) opening weekend and the gold standard for movie debuts.
Christopher Nolan's Batman sequel grossed that amount when it opened over a three-day weekend in July 2008. The same spring/summer period brought the release of "Iron Man." The character was new to mainstream audiences, star Robert Downey Jr. had yet to engineer his Hollywood comeback and Favreau was riding a cold streak ("Zathura: A Space Adventure," anyone?). The movie still opened to an impressive $98 million, and went on to gross more than $318 million domestically.
All this doesn't even count the intangibles. The movie generated a titanic reception at last summer's Comic-Con International in San Diego, the kind that happens only once every few years, if that. The "Iron Man 2" trailers have practically shut down YouTube. And according to one rival studio, "Iron Man" is now among the most-liked franchises in Hollywood, right up there with "Spider-Man." (It also doesn't hurt that ticket prices have inched upward in the past two years, although the 2-D "Iron Man 2" likely won't touch the domestic record of $742.5 million set by last year's 3-D "Avatar.")
Of course, shattering a box-office record isn't the same as making a creative breakthrough. "Dark Knight" was a singular cultural phenomenon, adored by critics, loved by the public and regarded in the fan universe as the great example of superhero movies, the Giselle Bündchen of the form. Whether "Iron Man 2" will be similarly embraced remains to be seen. From the advance material, we're expecting more humor than we got in the Batman follow-up but not necessarily the same level of grit or complexity.
Still, a combination of pop-culture awareness, hugely appealing (and promotion-minded) actors and a smartly waged marketing campaign could send "Iron Man 2" on the path to a record. That is, for now -- "Batman 3," after all, is currently in development. And given the tendency of superhero sequels to expand audiences as they go, that movie could eventually land with even more box-office force. Your move, Nolan.
--Steven Zeitchik
Photo of Robert Downey Jr. in "Iron Man 2": Francois Duhamel / Marvel Entertainment and Paramount Pictures
Photo of Christian Bale in "The Dark Knight": Warner Bros.








the Giselle Bündchen of the form?!?
Posted by: afterthought | 04/06/2010 at 04:39 PM
I don't doubt that Iron Man will beat Dark Knight.The cast and director are amazing.And..hmm..I guess I'm one of the teen girls sold
Posted by: Natalie | 04/06/2010 at 05:26 PM
I'm a 19 year old girl and LOVED Iron Man. Between being a Marvel Comics movie and starring *swoon* Robert Downey Jr, it's on the top of my list. Def going to see Iron Man 2 at the midnight showing.
Posted by: Mitchie | 04/06/2010 at 09:46 PM
'It's your move, Nolan.' Come on. B. Singer gave us X1 & X2, films which were taken serious on their own merits and which did in fact elevate the expectations of moviegoers around the world, not just comic book fans. Nolan however put those expectations, loaded them on a rocket and blasted them off to Mars. I really enjoyed Iron Man and am looking forward to the sequel. However, 'we're expecting more humor than we got in the Batman follow-up but not necessarily the same level of grit or complexity', is absolutely right. Aside from them being comic book movie there is no real comparison. Iron Man is an Action-Comedy (albeit a darn good one), while Dark Knight is a Epic Drama.
Posted by: Can you tell I enjoyed TDK? | 04/06/2010 at 11:37 PM
I read this article immediately because I'm a huge fan of Iron Man.. One thing I wasn't so fond of was when you said the only area that isn't completely sold on liking Robert Downey Jr. are teenage girls.. I know you said there's some robustness there but still.. I'm in love with him (haha he's my "older" celebrity crush) and I know tons of other teenage girls around my age that love him too!! Haha so give us teenaged girls some credit!! We love Robert Downey Jr.!!!!
Posted by: Yesenia H. | 04/06/2010 at 11:44 PM
I don't think it will be able to beat TDK, but it'll do incredibly well. And I am definitely one of the teen girls sold. Give me a a superhero movie and RDJ and I'm there.
Posted by: Michelle | 04/06/2010 at 11:46 PM
I don't think IM2 will have the same grit or complexity as The Dark Knight, but IM was never really about that. IM2 will probably have more "mass appeal" than TDK simply because it won't be as gritty or complex. I personally loved IM because it wasn't as emotionally taxing to see as TDK but it did not lose any of its wit or humor; I hope Mr. Favreau still maintains that tone in IM2.
Posted by: Yvaine | 04/06/2010 at 11:46 PM
I agree with everything Natalie and Mitchie said!! It will most likely beat the Dark Night.. like them, I am sold on Robert Downey Jr. We love him<3
Posted by: Yesenia H. | 04/06/2010 at 11:50 PM
I find Iron Man 2's plot line to be quite timely and deep. How much privatization is too much? How much responsibility do we have to those we exploit or to those who are harmed by the products we provide? Given our "military/industrial complex," I think we would be well served to explore these questions--and in light of wikileaks, it's none too soon.
Posted by: Shannon, M.Div. | 04/07/2010 at 06:20 AM
The Estimated Earnings The Iron Man 2 Movie Will Gross In It's First Day
Posted by: Musicstore | 04/07/2010 at 06:34 AM
With Iron Man 2 playing at almost every theatre in the nation as well as on hundreds of IMAX screens with inflated ticket prices, the film should easily meet or surpass the DK opening. Furthermore, it may be the first film to get near or best $200M.
Posted by: Banks64086 | 04/07/2010 at 06:56 AM
My 17 year old and her girlfriends are all planning to go and they just might let their guys sit with them.
Posted by: Lis | 04/07/2010 at 11:36 AM
I just loooove RDJ. He is my favourite actor. I will definately watch Iron Man 2 on its release day itself.
Posted by: TOUSIF SHAIKH | 04/07/2010 at 11:43 AM
IM2 won't even come close to TDK. The Heath Ledger death propelled public curiosity and demand to a height that nobody involved with TDK could have anticipated.
Posted by: X | 04/07/2010 at 11:54 AM
The only reason TDK did so well was because Batman Begins assured fans that Chris Nolan wasn't making a crap movie and Heath Ledger died right before it was released.
Iron Man 2 will do well, but unless something crazy happens outside of the film to add fuel to the fire... it will not beat TDK.
Posted by: Dane | 04/07/2010 at 01:01 PM
I don't think it will beat Dark Knight's record, but I do think it will open huge: $140 mil on its way to a $400 mil total.
Posted by: the128boy | 04/07/2010 at 03:18 PM
I don't think it will beat Dark Knight's record, but I do think it will open huge: $140 mil on its way to a $400 mil total.
Posted by: the128boy | 04/07/2010 at 03:18 PM
"your move Nolan." lol
Posted by: eric | 04/07/2010 at 04:47 PM
I didn't think Iron Man was anything but your ordinary superhero film, albeit, more well made. Other than that, RDJ is going to have to die between now and the day the movie is released if he wants the same box office as TDK.
Posted by: JohnDoe | 04/07/2010 at 06:16 PM
No, no chance. I'm guessing maximum 400M, and that's a highly optimistic number. Probably somewhere around 300-340M. I'm talking domestic, of course. International - 500-700M.
Posted by: The.Watcher | 04/07/2010 at 08:19 PM
Looking forward to the IronM sequel but i doubt it will beat DK crtically and commercially
It might gross more than D Knight but complex plots and epic drama is what makes movies incredible to me and a lot of critics
That movie was a straight classic and for Iron man to even come close it has to make a huge leap in quality
The first was decent- good not great
The second will be an improvement but not as dazzling as a Spider-man 2 or Dark Knight
But only time will truly tell
Posted by: gaddic | 04/08/2010 at 08:30 AM
The Dark Knight is stand alone unique, and just spectacular as a super hero film. Iron Man is a great film, but much more conventional.
Posted by: sophie | 04/08/2010 at 10:31 AM
People who track these things are forgetting about all the people who went to see DK just because of the hype, which included my group. So the next DK had better generate just as much hype, because while it was a good movie to us it was just that, a good movie, that was 20 minutes too long with a sort of lame ending twist - was worth seeing for Ledger but he was only on screen total of 20 minutes and we don't see movies because someone passed away - how weird.
We didn't care if it was more "gritty", lots of movies are "gritty". Iron Man was pretty much of an unknown and then we go and have a fantastic time, so that's the sequel we will DEFINITELY be checking out in a theater. Time will tell if the next DK falls into the "wait for it on DVD" file - even if it's "good" it may not be something to see at expensive theater prices.
Posted by: Virginia | 04/08/2010 at 10:36 AM
I liked Zathura. My kids love Zathura. Stop bagging on Zathura!
Posted by: Jack Hoff | 04/09/2010 at 12:55 PM
I love both film series and their gadgets (Batman has almost turned into Iron man at this point).
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Posted by: Cy | 04/09/2010 at 04:31 PM