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Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!

The latest advertising campaign in Mexico from Swedish vodka maker Absolut promises to push all the right buttons south of the U.S. border, but it could ruffle a few feathers in El Norte.

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The billboard and press campaign, created by advertising agency Teran\TBWA  and now running in Mexico, is a colorful map depicting what the Americas might look like in an "Absolut" -- i.e., perfect -- world.

The U.S.-Mexico border lies where it was before the Mexican-American war of 1848 when California, as we now know it, was Mexican territory and known as Alta California.

Following the war, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo saw the Mexican territories of Alta California and Santa Fé de Nuevo México ceded to the United States to become modern-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Arizona. (Texas actually split from Mexico several years earlier to form a breakaway republic, and was voluntarily annexed by the United States in 1846.)

The campaign taps into the national pride of Mexicans, according to Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading Latino advertising agency Grupo Gallegos in the U.S., which was not involved in the Absolut campaign.

Ucedo, who is from Argentina, said: “Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It’s very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea.”

But he said that were the campaign to run in the United States, it might fall flat.

“Many people aren’t going to understand it here. Americans in the East and the North or in the center of the county -- I don’t know if they know much about the history.

“Probably Americans in Texas and California understand perfectly and I don’t know how they’d take it.”

Meanwhile, the campaign has been circulating on the blogs and generating strong responses from people north of the border.

“I find this ad deeply offensive, and needlessly divisive. I will now make a point of drinking other brands. And 'vodka and tonic' is my drink,” said one visitor, called New Yorker, on MexicoReporter.com.

Reader Paul Green goes into a discussion on the blog Gateway Pundit of whether the U.S. territories ever belonged to Mexico in the first place, and the News12 Long island site invited people to boycott Absolut, with one user, called LivingSmall, writing: “If you drink Absolut vodka, you can voice your approval or disapproval of this advertising campaign with your purchases. I know I will be switching to Grey Goose or Stoli and will never have another bottle of Absolut in my house.

“Hey Absolut ... that's my form of social commentary.”

-- Deborah Bonello and Reed Johnson in Mexico City

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Used to drink Absolut, I thought it a very good Vodka. Loved the flavored varieties! After seeing the ad about the USA and Mexico I promise not to buy another product from them and will recommend to all my friends and aquaintences to do the same. There are plenty of drinkers in America and we have mucho plata. None will go to Absolut. With over 2 million ILLEGAL Mexicans in my country it costs me quite a lot already. The ad is an insult. And FYI; I'm a licensed bartender and my brotherhood is quite large. Bunos dios, mi amigos!

So much ignorance and so much racism, shame on both sides, ppl who have lived in Mexico know that all things
most ppl in the US say about mexicans are not true they're hard working ppl, and those who claim all amaericans are bad are stupid too coz it isnt true either, boicotting sending mails and stuff like that are not even worth the time, worry about keeping ur house, about those who are fighting for oil in other lands for mainly european companies, worry about getting bush out of the w.house and hilary out of it ;-)~, about the food prices, dont waste your time on this, dont be STUPID.

Peace for all, and remember it doesnt matter where you were born at, or what color u are, when we die we all go to the same place, worms have no distinction!!!

By the way i loved te add!!!!

Wow. There sure are several messages here in foreign languages! Since most Americans are arrogant and ignorant, please allow me to translate. All posts here that were printed in Mexican read: "Kill Whitey." I am serious. Just go to your local McDonalds and they will verify that this is true. Then they will spit in your Freedom Fries. :)

I am of Mexican descent and I am embarrased by the hypocrates that cry racism and in the same breath spew their hate at my (U.S.) American brethren. God Bless the U.S.

Mexico is a cesspool of corruption and crime. I refuse to go visit my family there anymore. The government treats foreigners with prejudice and brutality and then cries racism when the U.S. so much as considers securing our borders.

You Americans of Mexican descent that support the whole reconquista baloney are imbeciles, pure and simple.

We work our asses off for the last 30 years for a better living, then illegals come here and cut us out of construction and manufacturing jobs with cheap wages.

All Latinos that support illegals are idiots. They are unfairly competing with our kids. WE ARE HURTING OUR CHILDREN BY SUPPORTING THIS MENTALITY.

WHY DID OUR FAMILIES COME HERE LEGALLY? My grandparents would cry if they heard about all this reconquista talk. Anyone that believes that is betraying our ancestors that came her to give us a better life. You are squandering that for a bunch of illegals and a corrupt government.

THINK! Think about why they didn't stay in Mexico. They loved this country and would cry if they heard us disparaging it. THINK!

Asi se hace!!! Viva Mexico!! Ajuaaaaaaaaa!!

We already dominate some of the SW in both numbers and influence so get ready racists. Non-racists are okay, but racists will either have to move or change their ways because immigrants are coming no matter what they do.

The ad is very interesting. It would be even a bigger challenge to guard our borders from the illegals if they actually had that much more land to waste. I am sure they would all still want to come to the USA.

I'm from [insert nation] and I think [insert strong opinion]! And as far as [insert name]'s comment goes, you are [insert compliment or insult]!.

This cracks me up. To think that any hate comments wont really change the grave problems in the world right now. What ever history books you read, make sure they are credible and from what point of view and time they were written. Lets move on. I am getting back to reading my book.

I wonder if all of you who are boycotting Absolut will also be boycotting tequila? It comes from Mexico, you know.

No more margaritas for you!

Are you all kidding me? Anyone with an opposition to this ad needs to LEARN A LITTLE HISTORY! Kudos to Absolut for running this ad in the first place! Bottoms up!

Free Tibet, Free Texas, Free Arizona.........

Seriously?

No easy money.

TESTING, TESTING..

There are people suffering and dying all over this planet, and you LOSERS are upset about this ad?

GET A LIFE, POUR ME A DRINK.

I am so ashamed to be an American from the United States right now. I live in Mexico. I find that the real mexican towns are fine and it's the American wanna-be towns that are the problem. EX: Never been robbed or treated rudely...until I went to Cancun. Where I live and study right now...I have learned so much. The students are inteligent. The teachers are brilliant. I can't imagine what people think about the education system in mexico...honestly I have studied in several different countries and the most challenging program has been here in Mexico. I hate to divert from the topic at hand..the ad...(which is a typical 21st century advertisement directed toward the Mexican people...what more is there to say?), but how can I help it when I hear the things I do. I am not completely liberal...and will not comment on the issues of imigration, etc because I have to be honest, that is not my area of study and I don't want to misrepresent something I am not completely knowledgeable in, but I do know about being a good, understanding human being, and I am ashamed of what I am hearing. Having recently traveled, I found a book called "Phantoms" ...although a sci-fi type book, I read it because it was one of those exchange a book things in a hostel and it was what I find..it made an interesting point about the human condition and how maybe we are the most "evil" creature. Year after year I am saddened...I love children and would love to have some someday...but how can I want to when the world is full of people who hate OTHER people so much! I would never want to raise a child in this type of world...heck..I don't even like living in it. I just hope that some of you realize that yes..things can offend you and 'tick you off...but calm down..look at things rationally and use your energy on something worth fighting for that is for the good of Everyone. Not just for the good of you and what you think. I live by the rule..due unto others as you would do unto yourself...hence I don't stand out on imigration...because through my studies...I myself am an imigrant...sort of..and hate when people group me up with the rest of the Americans from the states. Don't do the same with Mexicans..or other people for that matter. There are good and bad people...lazy and fat people,...skinny and pretty people...no matter what the race, nationality, etc.

A really good marketing professor once told me, "Mass marketing is appealing to as many as possible, while at the same time offending the fewest.”

This ad was polarizing and divisive. Where does that put us all? At each other's throats? Over Vodka? Please. Absolut is not even in the Americas and here we are crying over hundred year old land disputes because a Vodka company (not even good Vodka actually) in Europe chose to play us like the fools we are. By being angry over this and you are playing right into their hands... creating buzz for their brand.

Immigration is a hot button issue. Actually I am surprised that a global company stooped this low. But, as consumer and human being, stop falling for the marketing devisiveness and choose a brand that honors respect among your fellow human beings. There is more room for good in this world. Absolut chose to promote divide. Don't let a vodka company choose your conscious path. Respect to you. Peace.

Watch out americans!!! Today America, Tomorrow The White House!!!

For those complaining about Mexico and how poor mexicans are, etc etc. I have news for you

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/03/news/international/carlosslim.fortune/index.htm

The RICHEST man on earth is M E X I C A N!!!!! (Carlos Slim)
and yes you can find more of those in Mexico. Also Americans, don't forget about ur people that buy everything with stamps, homeless, drug addicts, and the HUGE debt that the country has, I guess we all have our things..

Next time, just have some sense of humor (like someone said before) read and think before u speak, you dont want to look that ignorant ;)

"Liberals want little brown slaves to mow their lawns and take care of their babies. "

This white liberal will happily accept a slave of any color who is willing to mow my lawn and take care of my screaming baby! Slave wages negotiable."

Cool. I volunteer my services with one catch: your child WILL BECOME ONE OF US!! I will teach him/her OUR WAYS and take him/her south of the border so he/she can work for the BROWN SLAVES. You've got yourself a deal "Americanpatriot" Oh and don't worry about wages, your child will pay you back.

I agree with salubrious:
“By the way, all four of my grandparents were immigrants who migrated here in 1919. They entered America LEGALLY, eager to ASSIMILATE, they learned English, they worked hard and didn't trash every neighborhood they lived in, like so many ILLEGAL immigrants do, whose kids join gangs and then claim "racism" when THE MEXICAN GANGS are NOT EMBRACING MULTI-CULTURAL hiring practices! Wow!”

My family also came here LEGALLY in 1912 & did everything they could to CONTRIBUTE & ASSIMILATE. Why do the Mexican immigrants REFUSE to simply follow the laws & migrate to the US legally. I have no problem w/people coming here as long as they do so legally & are willing to become US citizens. Being a US citizen means LEGALLY contributing to society like the rest of us by paying taxes & assimilating into our society. Most illegals are paid under the table & escape paying taxes. Those taxes pay for the roads they drive on, the hospital emergency rooms they use w/o payment & the schools their children attend. Why should they get those benefits w/o paying for them like the rest of us

Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States

i hate to bust everybodys bubble here but this damn country belonged to my tribe way before the spanish and mexican came in here and took it from us,and then come the damn english people(white man) that take the rest of our native indian land,

i know most you people believe what you read in history books but most of the northern part of what we now call mexico belonged to the native american indians along with all of what you call america today and a big part of canada

this country needs to go back to the indian men and women it was stolen from PERIOD

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It took Rome about 300 years to fall...I'll accept that.


"Your cheap petrol is being paid with Middle Eastern lives!"

I'm afraid that the Middle Easterners have died in vain then. This morning the "petrol" in my area cost $3.65 a gallon.

"what did all the Immigration protests with Mexican flags get for Mexicans? Everything!! Many Mexicans here in America were already too comfortable thinking they were White"

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You mean thinking they were part of the melting pot? Your big accomplishment is dividing the country to soothe your ego. You should concentrate on fixing Mexico instead of screwing up the United States.

Like to add a comment to those who claim Mexicans are Native Americans. First of all Mexicans are just that Mexicans. Second most Mexicans have some Native American blood but that does not make them Native Americans, that makes them someone who may have had one or more ancestors that were Native Americans who were assimilated by the Spanish. That assimilation resulted in what is a Mexican today not a Native American. True Native Americans will say the same thing. I am a True Native American who feels now that the lines for the countries are drawn those lines should be honored not illegally blurred because that illegal had ancestors that gave up their right to what is now the United States. Mexico never really controlled the southwest so what gives them the right to try to claim it. Spain at one time did but you don't see them trying to claim that it is theirs. For that matter Mexico itself once belonged to France but you don't see them trying to claim Mexico. Yes my ancestors had their lands taken also but I have enough sense to know once that took place and soveign nations borders were drawn that those borders should be respected. The United States did pay for the territories which is more than most countries have done in the past.

HEY! Northamericans... Do you remember Speedy Gonzales? and Fito Bandito? and all the jokes about mexicans in the U.S Television? .....yes? ...and nobody in México said ABSOLUTLY nothing, because: who cares!!!!, an now look at you, with all these racist commentaries... and you are the example of democracy... and the freedom of speech? well... you are sooooo pathetic

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This is very simple, don't get mad get even don't drink Absolute. Actually this is a twofer, a threefer actually, boycott Absolute and one gets back at the Swedes, the French and the Mexicans!

"Liberals want little brown slaves to mow their lawns and take care of their babies. "

This white liberal will happily accept a slave of any color who is willing to mow my lawn and take care of my screaming baby! Slave wages negotiable.

Please Americans, just get over yourselves... it really is pathetic how Americans sanitise their history! Do you really think your country was built by virtuous means? It is a fact you stole land from Mexico, that you stole the land and committed genocide against millions of Native Americans - you raped them, you killed them, you forcibly removed them. And we in South America don't forget that your great governments supported brutal dictatorships that were responsible for thousands of deaths, disapperances, and inhuman torture. Thank you sooooo much for the 'solidarity' (as someone put it) you have shown to the rest of the American continent! Actually, just take a good look at Iraq right now! Isn't the US trying to redraw THEIR map? One idiot American congressman even suggested that Iraq be split among Shia, Sunni and Kurd sectors!

And come on - the wonderful 'life' you have in the US - cheap petrol, cheap goods and services - comes at a cost. You Americans are too lazy, enjoying the 'good life' to actually go in the fields and pick crops yourselves, or to do 'low' jobs. The US would be NOTHING without immigrants - it's funny you seem to have forgotten that it was founded by immigrants! Your cheap petrol is being paid with Middle Eastern lives! Not to mention the environment!

I think the ad was great - if you don't like the map, tough! It is HISTORY - sanitising it won't change it, except in your naive minds... Really, what tremendous ignorance and prepotence. Then you wonder why the US is so unpopular with the rest of the world... Bring it on the new powers of China, India and Brazil, it's time for the American empire to go! The rest of the world is fed up with you!

here is a link to Absolute's manufacturers site that is still allowing email lcontact

http://www.vsgroup.com/en/Contact/VS-Absolut-Spirits/l

let this liqour loozer know how you feel
Stand up America

Let's redraw the Sweden map from a German perspective, see how they like that!

No whining, no over analyzing, just fact, they are free to have the ad, and I am free to no longer purchase Absolut products.

Where DID I put that bottle of Ketel One?

I consider that Americans- as most U.S born white Europeans call themselves without taking into consideration that Latin Americans including Mexicans are American too- should use this map to educate themselves, and explore a reality that is excluded from the U.S. history books, of a land that was taken by force, of people that were forced to leave their own land, and of people that have been marginalized for more than a century by the United States government.

This is just another instance of public education's having been so destroyed, de-funded, de-meaned that people above the Rio Grande have NO CLUE as to their own history. I commend the contribution by the Swedes in propelling US citizens to find out who they really are.

BROWN SLAVES

Liberals want little brown slaves to mow their lawns and take care of their babies.
Liberals are the REAL racists. Driven by an affliction known as "White Guilt."
Liberals call their hypcritical form of racism -- "embracing diversity."

By the way, all four of my grandparents were immigrants who migrated here in 1919. They entered America LEGALLY, eager to ASSIMILATE, they learned English, they worked hard and didn't trash every neighborhood they lived in, like so many ILLEGAL immigrants do, whose kids join gangs and then claim "racism" when THE MEXICAN GANGS are NOT EMBRACING MULTI-CULTURAL hiring practices! Wow!

At least Al Queda is recruiting in The Netherlands for terrorists who look European. Now THAT'S diversity in hiring, isn't it? Irony probably lost on all you liberals.

This is in response to all the people whining about how insulting this ad is to americans and 'how would you feel if we made an ad showing half of Mexico belonging to the U.S.?' and other comments along the same lines. GET A LIFE. We have become so freaking politically correct that no one can take a joke anymore. I remember watching Family Guy, and there is this episode where they say: "sex turns straight people gay, gay people turn into mexicans, everyone goes down a notch". Did I get offended by this? No. I remember cracking up and sharing that line with all my mexican and american friends WHO DO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.
Don't be so self righteous as to say you don't insult anyone here in the States. You just have to turn your T.V. on and watch The Onion, Chappelle's Show, South Park, American Dad, Family Guy and countless other shows making fun of mexicans, asians, fat people, gays, democrats, black people, and basically any and all minorities and foreign cultures on a daily basis.
The United States is a great country and a melting pot for thousands of immigrants from all over the world, many of them with different points of view. Freedom of speech and thought does not apply only when you agree with what is being said.

All Americans should really be OUTRAGED! Poster above was right, most people in Mexico can't afford FOOD let alone Vodka! That's why they become federal lawbreakering criminals to come to America. If we had the convictions of Muslims, there wouldn't be one unbroken bottle of Absolute in the USA. But we don't so we'll just sit back & take it. At some point illegals will regain this area anyway. Then SUPPORTERS of illegal immigration will say, "How'd THAT happen?" Search for "Aztlan", "El Plan de Aztlan" Graph: Census 2000 http://www.mnforsustain.org/immg_mn_state_illegals_costs_erickson_p2.htm

In a Absolute world, where the USA minded its own business & said Screw all other nations, what country's flag would be flying over Absolute's Corp. Headquaters? Sig Heil! Sig Heil!

The USA such a strong nation yet feeble and weak at the same time. The adjective "United" in our country´s name only goes so far. Throw race into the equation and that strong "united" nation divides and crumbles like a sand castle. Culturally, we are very immature and cannot handle race.

There is much to be learned from the European Union, a continent throughout history torn apart constantly by war, with dozens of different languages and idealogies, that have finally put their differences aside and have united. Not only do they have a higher standard of living, they are now kicking the USA´s ass economically and technologically. A plain and simple fact whether we like it or not.
Have their cultures suffered? Not one bit, they are still as much Spanish, as they are French, as they are British or German
Open up your minds people and learn how to harness the best of both worlds(North America/South America) and lets turn our conitnent, America, into the powerhouse that it has the potential of becoming. Cheers, Salud, Saude, Santé.

I think we should invade Mexico and take it away because those people don't appreciate what they have. The Mexican Govt. has certainly screwed it up. The bindajos are all trying to cross the border to get into the US. If we cleared out a space for 500 miles to the south they could only get into what is now the northern part of Mexico. We could properly develop the country a few hundred miles at a time. Besides they have oil reserves that we could use.

So let me get this strait..... Many Mexicans would like to see the map as it is represented in the Absolut campain.
Would that means that California, Nevada, Texas etc.. would simply be an extension of Mexico ?? I'm not sure how that would benifit Mexico or America.

How would all of you Mexican-Americans feel about a campain that depicted "In an Absolut World" showing the extension of The US into Mexico? There would be protests in the street both here and in Mexico. Kettle One for me...

It is surprising to note that this advertisement is causing so much of fury. America goes around changes the map of other countries and it calls it 'Foul' when someone edits their map.... Very interesting. Do unto others brother...

I just finished reading through some of the posts.. and I'm in awe of all the hatred and resentment there is between both races. First of all, speaking from the perspective of a person who works in the advertising industry, I think the ad is quite funny and will probably appeal to the market that it is trying to read. It is an ad, and frankly some people have WAY too much time on their hands to blow this up into something that it isn't just so they can blurt out whatever racist remarks they've been holding on to. Second of all, speaking from the perspective of a person who was born in Mexico and now lives in the US.. I don't think that most of the comments on here have anything to do with the ad. It is an ongoing, ridiculous, and ignorant argument from people who refuse to accept the fact that the Mexican people have had, yes, a negative impact on the US, but also have many POSITIVE effects in this country. It's so aggravating when people don't recognize both sides of the situation. We were all immigrants at one point or another. I will be drinking Absolut Vodka just the same as always, boycott all you want you ignorant people you!

My My, how a whimsical and silly ad created by a bunch of Chilangos for their puppet-masters in the northern climes of Europe, has stirred the kettle of American gad-flys and fear mongers. A good benchmark to where the United States stands in this global mundo that we all spin around in. No longer does Ozzie and Harriet rule the airways (make way for George Lopez!!). No longer is racism institutionalized as it was a full 40 years ago almost to the day when Martin Luther King Jr., got shot down by a hillbilly and his cohorts. Man, the Anglos and their henchmen are really pissed off, even by ghost of the past! And well they should be a bit spooky. Homes, la reconquista is yet to hit high gear. It is too bad that most of our gabacho amigos chose to live in the past. But then can you blame them. If you look at history, they had it made in the shade living in a civilization built on lies, deception, racism, guns and war. Not that it is not any different now. I guess maybe soon it will be time for RAZA to live in its own world of lies, and deception and guns and wars (and Dios knows that we are getting a lot of practice at these black arts nowadays). Hey what comes around goes around. I never did like vodka, no matter how expensive it got. Give me mezcal and the gusano that I would rather suck down. Sure beats a watered down Bud!

Don´t be stupids, it´s an advertising campaign, not the future or something... think, and think twice before comment.

"...many Mexicans participated in the liberation of Texas and were very pleased with the liberation of California as well. Santa Anna was a ruthless elitist dictator and hated by the Mexican citizens living in El Norte."

Would you Mexicans now please return the favor and help liberate us in the U.S. from the ruthless elitist dictator G.W. Bush? Thanks in advance!

Great ad! Too bad it was pulled because of bunch of racists and crybabies couldn't handle the truth. You know...Old White people, the KKK fools and those Yahoo idiots who can't spell and take everything too seriously. They need to take the stick out of their a.ss! They are the same ones who flood the U.S. Congress with hate mail about Mexicans and immigration...even if it's the same family writing over and over again. Those hillbillies get so offended over an ad that RAN in Mexico!!! Don't you have lives?? What about the 600,000 innocent men, women and children that the American bullies have killed in Iraq? Why don't you worry about that?
This ad turned into bashing of all Mexicans campaign by the right-wing AM hate radio here in America and their retarded listeners. Too bad Latinos, especially Mexicans are now the largest minority and growing which scares the KKK fools and those old White Americans who wish we still lived in the racist 1950's, Ozzie and Harriet days.

And for the fools who asked what did all the Immigration protests with Mexican flags get for Mexicans? Everything!! Many Mexicans here in America were already too comfortable thinking they were White and not voting. Then the hateful AM radio, oppotunistic politicians like that Italian Tom Tancredo and washed up commentators like old Lou Dobbs tried to use Immigration to get either ratings or votes. Well that woke up the sleeping giant in many Latinos....it woke them up where it counts... in the voting booth. All of the rabid anti-immigration candidates like Tancredo or Romney quickly lost. All we have left are pro-Immigration candidates and McCain. Latinos will continue to punish any politician who tries to use them as scapegoats to get votes.
I for one will continue to buy Absolut Vodka and will encourage everyone to do so.....also if you are so offended about Mexicans waving their flag, maybe you should stop flying your Irish & Italian flags on your celebratons!

I believe history records that Texas was flooded by european immigrants and then declared itself a republic, A similar thing took place in Hawaii to rid it of its Crown.

Maybe California will become an independent and free Spanish speaking republic in years to come. Not by the force of arms, but via the USA's beloved democracy.

(And lets not forget, it was the French 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' who won the War of Independence for Washington and the 'burger eating invasion apes'.. next you'll be telling us the USA won WWII)

Hopefully this will force Absolute to bring it's prices down on it's product here in the US. How about the same price for a liter in the good old US as it is priced in Mexico. That will make me happy. We're giving back the land to Mexico anyway.....isn't it obvious to ANYONE YET??

I could care less if the mexicans took california. All that is there is a bunch of left wing loons anyways. They all love the illegal mexicans and want to help them more than they would an a american. When California is turned into a third world country they will then start crying for us to help them get rid of the illegal mexicans and bring thier standard of living back up. Cause who is going to pay the taxes to support all the welfare programs?, The illegals living under the radar so they don't have to pay taxes? I doubt they would come out from under the radar to pay taxes to support others who don't feel the need to work and support themselves.

I completely agree with what some of the other people have said; this is just an ad targeted to Mexicans reminding them of a historical fact. And yes, some Mexicans have the wrong perception that this part of USA should be part of Mexico instead but why are you going to hate Mexicans just because of these few people? It's like hating the USA for the few racist people one finds here and there; that idea is just stupid. And yeah, you guys are forgetting about two things: "freedom of expression and freedom of thought". So these American nationalist people: stop making a big deal about an ad should instead go and spend some time with your kids or do something productive because getting mad over this is a waste of time.

History: AMERICA HAS ALWAYS DEFENDED THE RIGHT OF FREEDOM FOR ALL OF THE AMERICAS.

Spain was the country that settled the southwest, not Mexico. Mexico only had possess of these southwest territories for only 20 years. Any group of Mexican nationals who claim any right to this land is simply defedning a weak assertion with charges of "racism" as do their liberal puppets. READ HISTORY, DON'T MAKE IT UP. So, all you college professors and high school teachers, take a tip from The Right Brothers music -"SHUT UP AND TEACH!"

In December 1823, with the knowledge that the British navy would defend Latin America from the Holy Alliance and France, President Monroe took the occasion of his annual message to Congress to pronounce what would become known as the Monroe Doctrine -- the refusal to tolerate any further extension of European domination in the Americas:

The American continents ... are henceforth not to be considered as subjects for future colonization by any European powers.
We should consider any attempt on their part to extend their [political] system to any portion of this hemisphere, as dangerous to our peace and safety.
With the existing colonies or dependencies of any European power we have not interfered, and shall not interfere. But with the governments who have declared their independence, and maintained it, and whose independence we have ... acknowledged, we could not view any interposition for the purpose of oppressing them, or controlling, in any other manner, their destiny, by any European power in any other light than as the manifestation of an unfriendly disposition towards the United States.

The Monroe Doctrine expressed a spirit of solidarity with the newly independent republics of Latin America. These nations in turn recognized their political affinity with the United States by basing their new constitutions, in many instances, on the North American model.

Facts of the matter for those who think the SW US is Mexico. Mexico had only had its independence for 20 years from Spain around the time of the War between the United States and Mexico.

Mexico refused to recognize the Independent State of Texas as not being part of Mexico. Due to the Thornton's affair where US soldiers were attacked in Texas by the Mexican military, we the United States, entered into a war with Mexico. The result was that Mexico was defeated, and broke. They legally sold the land to the United States in two separate treaties in 1848 and 1853.

In Mexican textbooks, it shows the same map as used in the Absolute ad. And students are taught that it was stolen from them by the United States. Thus they feel they do not have to possess the correct documents to cross our borders (thus violating not only US immigration laws, but also Mexican emigration laws and the Mexican Constitution) and they are entitled to everything that a legal citizen of the United States is has access to and the Mexican government telling the United States that their immigration laws are racist with continued meddling of pointing fingers at the US. (Take a look at Mexican immigration laws. There are to "classes" of citizens. Natural and non-natural. Natural borns have many more rights than non-natural borns.)

Many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans want to see California, New Mexico and other parts of the United States given to Mexico. They call it the “reconquista,” Spanish for “reconquest,” and they view the millions of Mexican illegal aliens entering this country as their army of invaders to achieve that takeover.

So my question for pondering is this; Is a fence going to really stop illegal immigration from the south? Or will laws against employers employing illegals causing business licenses to be revoked, and the business fined, going to stop illegal immigration. We as a nation are selling out. And Im sure my 10 ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War are rolling over in their graves over this.

 
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