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LAPD prepares for reaction to ruling on shooting of day laborer

The Los Angeles Police Department was preparing Tuesday for reaction to a ruling on whether the fatal shooting of an immigrant day laborer by an officer was justified.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and LAPD Chief Charlie Beck were scheduled to make the announcement about 12:30 p.m. after the Los Angeles Board of Police Commissioners makes its decision.

But the Police Department was already setting up media staging areas near the scene of the Sept. 5 confrontation at 6th Street and Union Avenue, in the heart of a densely populated Latino immigrant neighborhood.

Media parking and staging areas also were being set up at MacArthur Park and the Rampart station. The department issued a statement telling the media members where they could park and that they have rights to cover any demonstrations.

The commission will determine if Officer Frank Hernandez, who was assigned to a bicycle unit in the department's Rampart Division, was justified in his shooting of Manuel Jamines, a 37-year-old Guatemalan man.

Jamines, according to police, was armed with a knife, drunk and threatening passers-by. Hernandez, police said, ordered Jamines in Spanish and English to drop the weapon and fired at him when the man made a sudden movement toward the officers.

A knife was recovered at the scene, police said. Several eyewitnesses interviewed by investigators supported the officers' account of the incident, according to police.

Others, however, came forward to say they had not seen Jamines wielding a knife.

The shooting triggered several days of protests and clashes, some of it instigated by anti-police groups that worked to stoke anger among the area's residents.


Ruling due Tuesday in LAPD shooting that sparked protests, clashes

-- Joel Rubin

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"Jamines, according to police, was armed with a knife, drunk and threatening passers-by."

Justified. Move on. You can't even play the race card against the LAPD.

So the only solution to a drunk guy with a knife is to shoot him dead? No bean-bags, no taser first?

And if the Police Commission declares the shooting unjustified, will there be violent demonstrations in Bel-Air? Will the residents of WLA burn their houses down?

Don't forget that hernandez aimed for his head.

yes, shoot him dead. the full story is that these were bike cops. they only have a gun. not a bun beag or tazer. they responded they way they could.

justified. lets move on.

The Mayor and Polce Chief will announce that Officer Hernandez's PENSION and HUGE SALARY will not be affected by dead Guatemalans.

Look at the middle east, do you want your police forces doing that to you?
They can shoot us individually with impunity right now. Do you think they will think twice when they spray a peaceful crowd with live bullets.

Police in this country are not using their heads in dealing with people. They could have stepped back and waited this drunk out. But when you have an oppressor mentality, stepping back is ceding power. All muscle and no brains, way to go meathead LAPD.

we need democratic community control over the police.

in the form of all-elected, all-civilian, police control boards with full authority over the department in all aspects at all levels.


Let's try this again. The officers who responded were bicycle officers. They were flagged down by people in the area because Jamines was out of control and threatening people with a knife. Bicycle officers do not carry tasers nor do they carry bean bag guns. Not even all the 2 man vehicle units carry them. Pepper spray requires the officer to get within arms length of the man with the knife, and besides that, pepper spray has proven to be woefully ineffective against people who are mentally violent or severly drunk, AND doesn't put the person under control. Jamines could just have easily lunged into the crowd and knifed any number of people before the cops could take him down.

Cops are NOT trained mental health experts. If you don't like how they do their job, then next time try calling a mental health expert. Good luck getting one of them to respond.


Oppressor mentality? The LAPD?

Clem: Man, I don't know what you've been smoking, but you need to upgrade to a better brand. Wait a drunk out? Maybe if they're sleeping it off, but not one that's clearly violent and armed with a knife.

Man, you need to come to the light.


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