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Republicans, women, older voters fueling opposition to marijuana legalization in California, new poll finds

Pot As celebrities rallied in Hollywood to support legalizing marijuana in California, the latest Times/USC poll shows a major generational and political divide on the question.

The poll found that Republicans overwhelmingly oppose Proposition 19, the initiative that would legalize marijuana. As The Times' John Hoeffel reported Friday morning, there is also a big gap based on age: "Likely voters younger than 40 are in favor of it by 48% to 37%, but older voters, who say they are more enthusiastic about voting in this election, are not. Among likely voters 65 and over, only 28% support the measure, while 59% said they were opposed."

Woman were also leaning against the proposition.

Overall, the poll found Proposition 19 trailing badly.

The ballot measure has not generated a huge amount of buzz in Hollywood, but two big names -- actor Danny Glover and singer Melissa Etheridge -- on Thursday offered their support for the proposal.

Many major California politicians have come out against the measure.

-- Shelby Grad

Photo: Danny Glover, Melissa Etheridge and others express support for Proposition 19 at a news conference on Thursday. Credit: Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times

 
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"...Huntington Beach police were investigating Friday the case of three children treated for vomiting and dizziness after eating cookies containing marijuana..."

just the tip of the ice-burg of marijuana related problems...

It appears the GOP recognizes that there will be a dramatic upswing of drug addiction and all the problems that go with that if marij was legalized...

Prop 19 is DOA...

Interesting how so many republicans claim to be in support of small government yet they want to regulate Americans own bodies.

I really hope prop 19 passes, it would be a step in the right direction. There's so many legal things out there in society that are much harmful that marijuana that it doesn't make since to keep wasting trillions trying to outlaw marijuana. Especially when prohibition has done NOTHING to stop usage or availability and has only created a huge violent black market.

The Yes on 19 crowd is crying now that they can't smoke dope in public. Even the ultra liberal state of California can see what a horrible idea it would be to legalize pot. You're an idiot if you don't think later on it would be coke, meth, and heroin. You can apply the same argument to legalize those as you can to marijuana. Think about it. Ok, I mean think about it when you're not high. No on 19, the only logical choice.

@TheBigPicture

Did you know that marijuana is less addictive than caffeine? What happened to those 3 kids? Are they seriously ill? Get a hold of reality, cannabis is not dangerous.

What a bunch of liars.

Almost all older ladies know that men are much more fun to be with after smoking pot than drinking alcohol.

Whoever is spreading this misinformation ought to be ashamed of themselves.

LEGALIZE IT FOR FREEDOM! YES ON 19!

A "NO" vote will have the effect of: The state of California attempting to spend another 600 billion over at least the next two years (until another ballot initiative can be put before the voters) in an attempt to stop less than 0.01% of cannabis "crimes" The other 99.99% will continue unabated, sending billions of dollars to crime syndicates and cartels utilizing the currently approved cartel to gang to thug to school distribution system.

A "YES" vote will have the effect of: Saving the state of California 600 billion dollars over the next 2 years at least. (until old social conservatives can put their draconian repeal ballot initiative before the voters) It will put a dam on the river of money that has been being sent to illegal crime syndicates and foreign cartels and open another floodgate for that river of money to be earned by an honest, law abiding american citizen. (one need only study alcohol prohibition for proof of this).

A "NO" vote will NOT have the effect of: Preventing anyone who desires cannabis from obtaining it, using it, and avioding prosecution for it cheaply and easily.

A "YES" vote will NOT have the effect of: Creating a nation of stoned zombies. Those who would choose to use cannabis ALREADY ARE under the current set of laws. Legalization does not give a government endorsement of "safe" to the substance just as it doesn't mean alcohol or tobacco are "safe". A yes vote will have little to no impact on the amount of cannabis consumed in america. No one is waiting for it to become legal to start. Over 40% of american citizens report using the substance. Its time the common sense lessons of alcohol prohibition were learned by the next generation. It is time to apply the solution to that problem which was the regulation of the allowable, responsible, adult usage.

"Huntington Beach police were investigating Friday the case of three children treated for vomiting and dizziness after eating cookies containing marijuana..."

dizziness and vomiting... better watch out!

@ The Big Picture,

How is that different from children treated for alcohol poisoning from getting into their parents' liquor cabinet?

Bad parenting is bad parenting. You shouldn't leave a vodka/cranberry drink on the counter with kids around and you shouldn't leave your pot cookies on the counter.

@TheBigPicture,

Legalizing marijuana wouldn't increase drug addiction. In Amsterdam where marijuana is legal they have a much lower rate of use. In Portugal where drug possession is legal they have a much lower rate of drug abuse.

Why would you want to let something that is already very easily obtained controlled by criminals? Marijuana isn't the gateway drug, the drug dealer is; If we legalize marijuana it would be controlled in a legal market that has rules and regulations.

When I was still in high school (Just a few years ago) marijuana was everywhere, it was easy to get and the people who dealt it often had other drugs too. It was always hard to get beer though, the only place that you could get it was the liquor store.

Point is, making marijuana illegal in no way decreased use and put it into criminal hands. If we legalize it we take it away from drug dealers and put it in stores where they will ensure it is not laced with other substances, and they won't be selling it to kids. On top of that a store isn't gonna push you to try other drugs.

The dealers, growers, and medical marijuana providers are also opposed to Prop 19. Wonder why? :-)

Prohibition didn't work in the 20s and its not working today. The prohibition of marijuana is a failure just like the over all War on Drugs policy. Maybe if the government issued guidelines that would regulate the cooking of edibles and require the labeling of product this incident might not had occurred.

Legalization would help prevent incidents like this one.

This has no connection to Prop 19.

Prop 19 has not passed yet and these poor kids ate some pot cookies...so there's no connection to Prop 19 in any way.

Besides, their vomiting was probably caused by rancid butter or too much chocolate or sugar in the cookies anyway, not the cannabis. Cannabis is often used medicinally for anti-nausea for chemo patients. It does the OPPOSITE of making people vomit.

Anybody who wants cannabis already can buy it. Prop 19 is designed to take the money away from the Mexican drug cartels.

Jesus said, Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them. (Matthew 7:12).

I know I would not want my child sent to jail with the sexual predators, or my aging parents to have their house confiscated and sold by the police, over a little marijuana. (And in California, you can still lose your house, your freedom, and your kids for growing even one single plant, even under the recently passed "decriminalization" rule, so California really DOES still need Prop 19.)

We can change the world when we vote.

Whether it passes or not people who light up will continue and if you grow some buds in your backyard no one will even care. Cops don't care about those who light up at their homes. As soon as your out in public your going to get busted.

Okay, lets take a look at them numbers people. Any projection of revenue are all based on the product being used as a drug. Truth be told there are 24000 plus other uses. From food to fuel, textiles, and plastics. If America ever plans to recover, this industry must move forward. At present your prisons are overcrowding, your debt is accumulating, and your fuel supplie is dwindling. The history of alcohol prohibition is a mirror image of what is happening today with marijuana. America, you can't afford to vote no on any level of this, do your research before you go and make the uninformed decision of voting no on this. For example, if you used the leaves from the plant to make fuel to fuel your transport trucks, you could do so with zero carbon emmitions, ZERO! You could effectively reduce fuel costs and polution while makeing jobs for everyone. This is the only crop that is fesible in this way.

There are some extreme arguments of the topic of legalization of pot. Here are my points and the ridicules reasons why its not.
It is not the start all for drugs...most people always start with Cig's or alcohol because they are readily available because of kids parents.
If you look at research the only know danger of smoking pot is short term memory loss. Other than any smoke in you lungs is not good for you.
Even today’s high grade pot is not addictive people are except with drugs like crack, meth or heroin which are know addictive drugs.
I go to the Doctor today and other than needing to loose some weight no high blood pressure, clogged arteries, no stress or anxieties. Where I have friends or relatives who live on doctor prescribed meds…sad there even worse for you than pot look at the studies. Sleeping pills, anxiety meds, blood pressure meds. But because Doctor prescribes them there OK…RIGHT!!!!!!!
To me one of the reasons that pot was never legalized is because too many people are making to much money off of pot to want to keep it illegal. Look at who is funding the most to keep it illegal…golden triangle illegal growers.
Look at the money that is wasted or not earned on pot…I am all for going after crack, meth, heroin these are addictive life destroying drugs. Between cops, courts, prisons alone this could save our state government at least $1 BILLION dollars a year. If legalized it could add revenue not sure if they are right on their prediction it’s a weed if legal the cost to grow and get to distributors would drop to about $200 a pound if grown indoors. Less outdoors (maybe $20 a pound) (Done it, tracked it) so I say tax it at $100 an OZ then you could get some revenue. Then the cost to a distributor is about $120 an OZ. if they sell it at double the cost then you looking at $240 an OZ that’s anywhere between $60 and $260 less than what people are buying it for now. SEE another reason to #5
I say if you don’t legalize it then you should criminalize both cig’s and alcohol
You want to hurt Mexico’s drug cartel? What about the local gangs? Big revenue loss to both.
People look at the big picture pot is not the class c drug that “Refer Madness” brought to life some 70+ years ago. It is a naturally grown weed that has shown there are medical benefits to using it. It is a MULI-BILLION DOLLAR a you industry that’s NOT going away why wouldn’t the govt. want to legalize it?
Someone’s getting paid off…

We simply need to take marijuana out of the hands of criminals.

Legalize, tax and put age restrictions on it.

These polls are inaccurate. Prop 19 will pass and California will make history :)

Why would a single person who advocates small government be opposed to Prop 19? Let's return to the good old days when government didn't tell us how to think, what to eat, or what to smoke.

THE LA TIMES COMES OUT WITH ONE OR MORE HIT ARTICLES ON 19 EVERY DAY. VOTE YES ON 19 ! STOP LISTENING TO THE MARIJUANA PROPAGANDA LIES! THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WANT MARIJUANA ILLEGAL ARE THOSE THAT BELIEVE THE REEFER MADNESS LIES, A FEW MEDICAL MARIJUANA SHOPS THAT WANT TO KEEP THE PRICES HIGH AND THE CRIMINALS GANGSTERS AND TERRORISTS THAT NOW MAKE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE MARIJUANA IS PROHIBITED INSTEAD OF RATIONALLY REGULATED LIKE IT WILL BE WHEN 19 PASSES.

VOTE YES ON 19 !

All major authorities agree that the vast majority of so called “drug-related” violent crime is caused by the prohibition of drugs, rather than the drugs themselves. This was the same during alcohol prohibition. Alcohol prohibition created violent criminal organizations just like every other drug prohibition has. These violent crimes should be labeled prohibition related, not drug related. Ending alcohol prohibition is exactly why you don’t see shootouts over that drug trade any more. Stop funding criminals, gangsters and terrorists with hundreds of billions of tax free $ every year, LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND RATIONALLY REGULATE IT LIKE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO! THE YEAR ALCOHOL PROHIBITION ENDED VIOLENT CRIME FELL BY 65% ! VOTE YES ON 19 !

Many government studies have cited the relative safety of marijuana but rather than base rational marijuana policy in science and facts, our government ignores science and facts and promotes lies and fear mongering. Here is a great example: On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, “[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it.” Richard Nixon chose to ignore the advice of this well qualified commission and start the modern escalation of criminalizing marijuana consumers. The lies he promoted have done much harm but they served his selfish motives and got him re-elected based largely on him starting the “war on drugs”, which is actually a violent unconstitutional war against nonviolent citizens, which are no threat to their selves or society. Google: Drug War Victims. VOTE YES ON 19 !

In 1988, after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
“MARIJUANA, IN ITS NATURAL FORM, IS ONE OF THE SAFEST THERAPEUTICALLY ACTIVE SUBSTANCES KNOWN. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME.” Judge Young recommended that the DEA allow marijuana to be prescribed as medicine, but the DEA has refused.
VOTE YES ON 19 !

IT’S FAR PAST TIME FOR THE VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY TO DEMAND RATIONAL MARIJUANA POLICY BASED IN SCIENCE AND FACTS RATHER THAN REEFER MADNESS AND UNSUBSTANTIATED RIDICULOUS UNTRUTHFUL DRUG WAR PROPAGANDA AND SCARE TACTICS. VOTE YES ON 19 !

 
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