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Police fire at least 2 volleys of non-lethal projectiles during protest over police shooting [Updated]

  Los Angeles police Tuesday night fired at least two volleys of nonlethal projectiles at crowds near 6th  Street and Union Avenue in Westlake as people protested the fatal shooting of a man who officers said was threatening them and passersby with a switch-blade Sunday afternoon.

Police used bullhorns to declare an unlawful assembly around 9:30 p.m., and some in the crowd hurled rocks and bottles in the direction of officers.

The demonstrators, including families with children, bolted down the street and into alleyways as the nonlethal shots were fired. During the ruckus, witnesses said, a man fell off his bicycle and struck his head.

Lapd-protest1 The 20-year-old, Jesus Alejandro Hernandez Carmona, was lying on the ground and bleeding profusely from the left side of his head. He was near a candle-lighted memorial to Manuel Jamines, the 37-year-old Guatemalan day laborer who was killed by police Sunday.

[Updated at 10:30 p.m.: An earlier version of this post omitted Jamines' first name.]

Carmona was surrounded by a crowd, which was bookended by police lined up along 6th and Union on the east and Burlington Avenue on the west.

Los Angeles Fire Department ambulances were at the scene but were not crossing the police line. When asked by a reporter why the man was not receiving medical attention, a police commander said, “Tough.”

[Updated 10:45 p.m.: Carmona was treated after friends helped him walk past the police line to ambulances.]

Several people, meanwhile, were shouting angrily into loudspeakers and a group of young men are weaving through the crowd on bicycles. A vendor hawked bags of potato chips.

Vitalina Rubio, 52, had looked on with disappointment earlier as protesters hurled eggs at police cars.

“You can't fight violence with violence,” said Rubio, a Mexican immigrant who has lived in the MacArthur Park area for nine years.

Earlier in the evening, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck defended the officers' actions during Sunday's incident, saying they made the best decision possible after Jamines repeatedly refused commands to drop the 6-inch knife.

-- Kate Linthicum in Westlake

Photo:  Jesus Alejandro Hernandez Carmona, 20, lays on ground after falling from a bike. Credit: Jay Clendenin / Los Angeles Times

Monday: Police, residents face off over shooting

 
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I have never understood why, when there is not an imminent threat of death (the guy had a knife, he was drunk, he didn't have a gun) ... why they shoot to kill. Why not aim at his knees or something? His thigh? Why kill a drunk or mentally disabled person if you are not threatened seriously yourself?

These mostly illegal alien sympathizers should be thankful that they don't live in Mexico where the law enforcement don't give a sh*t about the drug cartels who, so far, have slaughtered over 23,000 of their fellow Mexican citizens south of the border..

clean up the illegals already

Just like after the Laker game, all the Mexicans and other Latinos are rioting. They love to find any opportunity to riot.

The 20-year-old, Jesus Alejandro Hernandez Carmona, was lying on the ground and bleeding profusely from the left side of his head. He was near a candle-lighted memorial to Jamines.

Carmona was surrounded by a crowd, which was bookended by police lined up along 6th and Union on the east and Burlington Avenue on the west.

Los Angeles Fire Department ambulances were at the scene but were not crossing the police line. When asked by a reporter why the man was not receiving medical attention, a police commander said, “Tough.”

Ditto!!!!! You want to cost taxpayers more money than you already are, this is the line I'd take too! 'Ing Barbarians!

"The 20-year-old, Jesus Alejandro Hernandez Carmona, was lying on the ground and bleeding profusely from the left side of his head. He was near a candle-lighted memorial to Jamines.

Carmona was surrounded by a crowd, which was bookended by police lined up along 6th and Union on the east and Burlington Avenue on the west.

Los Angeles Fire Department ambulances were at the scene but were not crossing the police line. When asked by a reporter why the man was not receiving medical attention, a police commander said, “Tough.”"

Seems like the correct response to me...

LA wants the illegals, they can bleeping have them. Lets put a fund together the move to Phoenix to LA. Enjoy.

I wonder if LA is still considering not doing business with Arizona. I say 2 illegals plus baby should = three illegals. There are millions of illegials who REFUSE to speak ENGLISH or PAY TAXES. Did I forget to mention that about 20% are felons? I hope all of the illegals move to LA. You love them, then you can feed them (until all of their babies turn 18, and state healthcare). I say anyone who pays taxes and speaks english should be given citizenship, but that won't be to many.

I was at this tonight and the LAPD were doing a terrible job! They were highly inconsistent and sloppy in their tactics and overly belligerent to the Latinos. I was caught in the middle of it when I exited the Food 4 Less after buying milk. I am a 67 yr old white man. I tried to exit the area but everywhere I went was blocked. They gave the people no easy, clear way out and many wanted out including women with babies in strollers. They were putting a lot of people at unnecessary risk. After going around Wilshire and back up on 6th to get home I was then forced by an officer down a dark alley that I would not walk in the daytime rather than allowing me to walk a clear 50ft to cross the street at Alvarado. I am really pissed at the LAPD. Tonight they were not protecting or serving anyone but themselves. The Latinos around me were all very quiet, peaceful people but the helicopters soaring close overhead and police with their confused tactics turned what could have been a peaceful rally into a confused mess!

"The demonstrators, including families with children . . .," says the article. Anybody who would bring their children to such a potentially dangerous demonstration should be arrested for endangerment. That alone provides insight into the ilk of the participants.

This is exactly why we need alternative nonlethal weaponry - not just for riots or civil unrest. Where were the non-lethal projectiles during the encounter that created the unrest in the first place? He could have been brought down and thus, disarmed with alternative methods. The Police were "just doing there job", but there has to be a better way for situations like that.

If it were not for anchor babies, they would all be illegal. At least their children learn english at the taxpayers expense (school). Speak english + pay taxes = citizenship. They have their own neighborhoods and own stores and refuse to learn our language. Next you will see a lawsuit that our schools don't speak spanish. Great. LA wants them there, and I say they can have them.

It's pretty brazen for these people to riot. If we don't stop this nonsense, this country is finished. I wish they'd put this energy into over-throwing the Mexican gov't rather than riot in our city.

So the Mexican savages run wild in the streets. When are we going to build a wall between us and that godforsaken pitiful excuse for a country?

we will gather 100,000 protester by this weekend. We will show YOU the force of the protesters.. You Raciast!!

the police force is headed for self-destruction if their decision making and curtain tactics dont change..they need to be trained in close quarter combat or urban hand combat instead of very deadly force because of no immediate responses from offenders,officers are trained even if its life threating to at all times try to apprehend suspects before using such deadly force....beware of the people that you give such decision making to..

the guy has a switch-blade ,the cop could have use a taser and that would probally be enough to subdue him instead he chose the lethal route .No matter what the cop would never admit they are wrong because of potential lawsuit ,this is the world we live in .

3rd world idiots. Look what Los Angeles has become.

MOST police officers do a great job, and get spit on for their troubles.

None of these uncivilized ANIMALS witnessed what happened yesterday. They are going on hear-say and leaping to their own conclusions. These people, like many in our country now-a-days, view laws and rules only as suggestions.

Just imagine what this place will be like WHEN the 8.8 earthquake hits. There will be complete lawlessnes on all levels. And most of these 'people' will be part of that. Watch and pay attention, citizens.

Well Well, here is the reason we need more ICE officers to deport these low prowling criminals as they distort the truth and threaten our country with there defiant illegal and violent mannerisms.
By By no mas amigos

I guess they think the police should have given the poor,drunk, illegal, day laborer, a hug and not a bullet. I guess the police should have tried to shoot the knife out of the suspects hand too. How come these people don't protest like this about gang violence. Their children take more lives than the police do.

wear a helmet, knuckle-head!

Not a peaceful protest. Throwing rocks and bottles. Would do you expect the LAPD to do? They have to defend themselves. What's even worse is protestors children out there knowing angry people are going to test the police and showing them the wrong way of how to demonstrate.

These immigrants are going to learn there are laws in place in this country.

I meant "what do you expect the LAPD to do?" Sorry for the grammar.

The man only had a knife. You all had guns policemen.Why did you shoot that man down like a dog?. He didn't deserve that.

 
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