Four arrested in Hollywood Hills home invasion robbery, shooting

Four suspects were arrested this morning after a man and his dog were shot during a home invasion robbery in the Hollywood Hills, police said.

Gunmen entered the home in the 8200 block of Mannix Drive about 1:40 a.m, said Officer Cleon Joseph of the Los Angeles Police Department.

The suspects fled after the shooting and led police on a vehicle chase that ended in a crash in Mid-City, near Hauser Boulevard, he said.

Joseph did not know how seriously the man and dog were injured, nor would he provide any other details on the incident.

-- Alexandra Zavis

Photo: LAPD officers investigate crime scene, where suspects involved in a home invasion robbery crashed their getaway car, a white Dodge Charger (right) into several parked cars on Hauser Blvd just south of Pico Blvd in Los Angeles. Credit: Mark Boster / Los Angeles Times

Comments

[Nick]

I guess some stereotypes die hard. The suspects were black and were driving a Dodge Charger.

[able baker]

Are the suspects black or hispanic? The article didn't specify.

[KK]

Ghetto wheels from the picture. Gangs are branching out to include robbery.

[tim]

The differences between being a survivor versus a victim are caution in deciding to open the door, and doing so only when armed (legal on your own property in CA) and mentally prepared. In the event of criminal forced entry in the middle of the night, the only effective recourse is ability to conduct an effectively armed defense. Dogs are marginally effective against an armed assailant. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

[theCanimalsHusband]

Since there is no photo nor description of the suspects due to the political correctness of the LA Times, we can confirm the suspects are NOT Latino, Asian or white.

[peter wolf]

Hmmm..Let's see. You spend a ton of money and taxes to live in the Hollywood area and you're attacked in your own home. Yeah.... Texas anyone?

[arthur]

Bravo Tim. I agree 100%. Being a victim should not be an option. The right to survive is ours and legal. If we do not act, within the law, for ourselves, then the outcome is our fault. My heart goes out to the victims here. However, for them and the rest of us, may we stand strongly enough that these criminals choose another line of work. I hate seeing these headlines because I know of this pain first hand ( a relative).

[Dee Perre]

Arthur! That would be second hand hearsey. Yes be prepared. I now live in W Surprise and gun laws are soooo much better in Az. I;m just having a hard time finding a Hi-point 40sw. Everyones out and looks like the demand far exceeds the supply. A armed society is a safe you

[Ivy]

why does everyone care so much about whether or not the robbers were Black, Hispanic, Asian or White?????? How does that change the fact that this man was assaulted?? Let's get over the color thing people.

[john]

Sure Tim- lets make our society the wild west. Why don't we all carry guns everywhere we go for that matter since there might be a big story tomorrow about how someone got robbed while jogging or buying groceries.
I have guns but I'm not gonna be paranoid by having my sidearm ready every single moment of the day.
Its the police and society as a whole that needs to figure things out to make us a better society.
If I was a robber, I would surely put one into your cranium before you have a chance to make a defensive move. No longer will people get robbed with your advice, they will get ambushed and shot first before being robbed.

[rudy]

I agree if you donot let them in you donot have to deal with them, I was a victim of home invasion and I made one crucial mistake, the first guy who rushed in got clanked in the head with my portable phone, I had him, he was scared, all I had to do was close the door and beat the guy senseless, but then his buddys came in and they had even bigger guns then he did so I lost that one, but for sure if you got surveillance and know whos around you would not open the door to a bunch of clowns

[william Gallant]

i am so glad i dont live in calf anymore i wish it was back in the old days and for the officers over there keep up the good work.

[SallyfromtheValley]

Well this confirms it, Im buying 2 pit bulls and Im naming them "dead" and the other dog "meat".

If robbers ever came into my home I would pray with all my might and then pull out my hubby's loaded gun and blow off some heads!

This is coming from a church going Mom who doesnt want scum in her house! Then I would have my dogs "dead" and "meat" finish them off.

Sorry but true....no compassion here folks!

[MM stuck in LA]

I agree with Tim myself.......if these moron gangbangers had tried this in my home, they would have died from .45 caliber premature lead poisoning, compliments of Glock.

None of us can depend on police to protect us, so this is the only recourse--be armed at home and GET PROPER FIREARMS TRAINING AND TACTICAL TRAINING so you're mentally & physically prepared to deal with criminals of this nature.

[RJ]

Why is it so hard for people to figure out that less guns = less shootings? How many more people have to die? How many more people have to die?

[able baker]

Ivy,
It's just a way to profile likely assailants. The more data you have on the enemy the better prepared you are when you see one. Black or hispanic men cruising in a white suburban neighborhood should get scrutinized, license plates recorded and holsters unsnapped. Condition orange. We have gangs in LA. They are black or hispanic. They are murderous criminals. Read the article. They didn't throw punches they threw lead.

[Keith B. Alvarez]

What about the Dog? Thats what I Care more about.

[MM stuck in L.A.]

RJ wrote:
"Why is it so hard for people to figure out that less guns = less shootings? How many more people have to die? How many more people have to die?"

Go move to Kool-Aid county. The cops will get there in minutes, when seconds count. What a bonehead.

[tim]

For John: I did carry in Arizona when I lived there. Concealed. After training and licensing, as many thousands currently do. And, oh by the way, after three decades service as a Marine, including as an infantryman in combat. In Arizona (as in California now), I led a temperate, sober and productive life among similar people. I didn't bother anyone and no one bothered me, so no one got hurt. A lawfully armed society is not the wild west -- it is a polite society. Except for the criminals, who are less likely to take opportunistic chances when they don't know who is armed. And who are more likely to suffer serious consequences when they assail an innocent. Ordinary folk have too much to lose by irresponsible behavior with guns. They know it, and conduct themselves with restraint and discretion. Criminals are different. That is why criminals are in the papers far more often than the average Joe.

Robbers are shot or flee frequently when armed homeowners defend their homes. There is risk on both sides, of course, and armed confrontations can go either way. But the criminal initiator is less likely to start trouble in a self-defense-supporting state filled with armed, law abiding citizens. And more likely to be injured or killed.

With regard to your prediction of criminals preemptively overwhelming victims, so no point in defending yourself (a common claim of anti-gun, be-a-sheep proponents), the actual history in states that support and facilitate armed self defense shows the contrary result often, when law-abiding citizens are attacked.

I agree with you that the police and society as a whole need to create, pursue, and enforce non-violent, civil solutions that preempt the nurturing of criminals. (What are you doing to serve that goal?) What a great world it would be! In the meantime, I will continue to be ready to defend myself, and will continue to be an active citizen volunteer in positive community projects that help youth to make the right choices. And I will continue to be a self-defense instructor who assists others in being ready to preserve their own welfare, and responsible in protecting themselves and their families. There isn’t any paranoia in it because preparedness replaces fear. It becomes a natural, routine way of living. Ask a policeman, or a soldier.

For RJ: How many more people have to die? As many as the criminals shoot. Fewer guns = more victims-in-waiting for the criminal element who are and always will be armed. They are criminals. They violate the laws, including the ones that deny guns to criminals and prohibit armed robbery, home invasion, and shooting innocent people. That's why we call them criminals. I think the experience of being a robbery or home invasion victim would stand a good chance of changing your outlook. I choose to be one of many who are an active discouragement and forceful resister of the criminal element. As President Obama said recently, and Ben Franklin said long ago (I combine and paraphrase), there is evil in the world, and we all must decide whether we will stand up to it as individuals acting in concert, or be destroyed piecemeal.

Another general thought. Do you support the police? I do. Do you want to help them? I do. So, if it the situation is forced on me and unavoidable, I want to tilt the situation in favor of my reporting a wounded criminal they can arrest and take off the street. Or a deceased criminal who clearly and unequivocally threatened my life, so the police can notify the coroner.

Another observation. The wild west wasn't so wild. Read the actual history. The west was populated by mostly hard-working people who cooperated in the interest of their mutual survival and legitimate betterment. As now, the violent, gun-abusing criminal element existed certainly, but was a marginal aberration in society at large.

Finally, ask an emergency room physician or police detective about the population segment he or she sees arriving at the hospital or morgue with holes in them. Those experts will tell you the shootees are people who came to the emergency room or slab not because they were shot, but because they were leading disordered, law-flaunting, undisciplined, self-destructive lives that were bound to get them shot. That's where the shootings come from RJ: from the aggressively dysfunctional people, not the guns.

[steve]

RJ -- You mightn't like the idea of guns, but, if you awake in the dead of night, and there's some maniac standing there (Google "Night Stalker"), who's about to stab you to death with a knife, what are you gonna do? grab a phone and call the cops?? Personally, I'd grab my loaded handgun and "pop" the bastard.

[Verballistic]

I'm not into stereotyping...but profiling makes sense when human lives are in danger!! That doesnt mean anyone is stopped for being a certain color/ethnicity, only that those who fit the overall profile of a thug/gangsta, regardless of color...

A white dude with a gangsta vibe will obviously draw more attention than a conservatively dressed minority businessman...rational profiling needs to prevail, not like the TSA at the airport patting down 80-year-old church ladies!!

[SallyfromtheValley]

Bravo Tim! Excellent response! In my previous comments I declared pumping lead into a criminal who invades my home. I would ! I have children and I'd rather die than knowing I didnt do anything and have my children in danger (if they were in danger / live threatning)..Some home invaders get jacked up on drugs and they do assinate people ..Why stand idle?...#1 get dogs (if you can, they bark and they do help) #2. Get sensor lighting. #3. dont open the damn door!..I wonder if he did open the door?..Also Im convinced these thugs knew this guy had cash (said he had alot of it)..My sister's neighbor got cleaned out (In Woodland Hills, CA) they stole 300,000 in jewelry. Ironically enough it happened when the husband went out of town. (he never went out of town) It was the only time.. These people gets tips and they case the house too. It's B.S. and yes defense training is imperative (you dont want to shoot your foot off, eh?) I've been shooting since 18 (shooting range off of Reseda). Gangbangers BEWARE!! YOU'D BE SURPRISED AS TO HOW MANY MOMS OUT THERE CAN HANDLE WEAPONS AND THEY WOULDNT THINK TWICE TO BLOW YOUR KNEE CAPS OFF! Bring it Beeeeeatch! This makes me mad as heck! Phew...!

[SallyfromtheValley]

John...you say dont be naive by trying to shoot your attacker ,, You recommend to stand idle and be compliant?...Well why? This guy (who got shot & so did his poor dog) DIDNT HAVE A GUN!! HE HAD A BABY SLEEPING AND HIS WIFE PRESENT..!! he was shot anyways!

Scum is scum so either stand idle and hope they having a good day and pray they dont shoot you....Or shoot (if you can as soon as the first one walks in)
and scream like Rambo and cross your fingers...Either way your life is in danger..Id rather pull the trigger then see my family harmed..If they know we arent scared they'll stop this home invasion stuff and stick to robbing each other or selling their garbage crack or weed in their streets or in our high schools (great)... We need to move them to Iraq and drop them off parachute style and say, "hey you want violence welcome to your new home Bagdad!, knock yourself out !"......

[August]

Interesting because I live near Hauser (but in the Fairfax District), and that night I heard a lot of police cars. Then I went online to listen to the LAPD police scanner, and heard them talking about seeing a guy with a gun near Hauser & Saturn. Then the next morning saw them mentioning it on the news. I'm wondering if those sirens I heard were the same ones.

[Stop Worrying]

These guys have no brains.